Even in the best seasons of life, there’s always something that feels heavy, something we wish God would change. So how do we really live out 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18—“Rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances”?

In this episode, Ash and Jacquie talk honestly about what it means to give thanks in circumstances, not for them. They share stories about messy, less-than-ideal moments (including a hilarious “bad hair day” at the live event) and explore the difference between joy and happiness.

This is a practical, faith-filled conversation about learning to live above your circumstances, leaning on God’s character, and discovering joy that isn’t shaken by what’s happening around you.