In this episode, Ash and Lydia dive into Exodus 33:15, where Moses pleads with God, “If you don’t personally go with us, don’t make us leave this place.” Together, they explore the powerful truth that success, recognition, or even reaching your “promised land” is meaningless without God’s presence.

Lydia shares how this scripture shapes her decisions, including whether to pursue her law degree, and the wrestle of wanting to move forward while making sure God is truly leading the way. Ash reflects on how easy it can be to twist our plans to look “godly” rather than surrendering them fully to Him.

This conversation is an encouraging reminder that real peace, joy, and fulfillment don’t come from doing more or achieving more—they come from walking with God, wherever He leads.