Max and Stacey are joined by Leo Feler, an economist with a unique perspective on the Trump administration’s immigration and deportation policies. During a  recent renovation project, Feler’s property was raided by federal agents looking to detain workers they believed were in the country illegally. Feler recounts the dramatic incident and explains how raids like these could have a chilling effect on the US economy.

Also on the show, Sean Fennessey, chief content officer of The Ringer, and co-host of The Big Picture podcast joins to debate just how bad of a year this has been for Hollywood.