Peter Dutton in Sydney announcing his nuclear policy seven nuclear reactors to be built around the country if the coalition wins office, and premiers to be thrown a bucket load of money to agree to allowing nuclear into the country into the estates as part of the deal. The federal opposition leader making the Paul Keating reference about was it Paul Keating? Was it Gough Whittler never stand behind between a premier and a bucket of money, and he made an allusion to that. So Rowan Ramsey is a Federal member for Gray. We understand Portagusta is a site that has been chosen. Ron Ramsey, Good morning, Bethy, good to be with you. Likewise, thank you for your time. Where in Port Augusta will it go? Because I understand the side of the former power station there is now being utilized for other industry.

Peter Dutton in Sydney announcing his nuclear policy seven nuclear reactors to be built around the country if the coalition wins office, and premiers to be thrown a bucket load of money to agree to allowing nuclear into the country into the estates as part of the deal. The federal opposition leader making the Paul Keating reference about was it Paul Keating? Was it Gough Whittler never stand behind between a premier and a bucket of money, and he made an allusion to that. So Rowan Ramsey is a Federal member for Gray. We understand Portagusta is a site that has been chosen. Ron Ramsey, Good morning, Bethy, good to be with you. Likewise, thank you for your time. Where in Port Augusta will it go? Because I understand the side of the former power station there is now being utilized for other industry.

It's quite a way there with track Matthew. When Keto Bryan says there will be going in places where coul fired payers stations existing, it does necessarily mean the exact footprint, because of course, the advantage of going in such a site is that's where the transmission lines lead to and we don't have this proposal that the Labor government has of twenty eight thousand kilometers of new high goldage transmission lines around Australia actually utilize what we've got, so it only has to be in the vicinity, and so it's a long long way down the track. I mean we're talking a two or three year consultation process before we even get to that stage. So there's plenty of land around Port Agusta, I can one way or another, I'm sure a suitable site.

It's quite a way there with track Matthew. When Keto Bryan says there will be going in places where coul fired payers stations existing, it does necessarily mean the exact footprint, because of course, the advantage of going in such a site is that's where the transmission lines lead to and we don't have this proposal that the Labor government has of twenty eight thousand kilometers of new high goldage transmission lines around Australia actually utilize what we've got, so it only has to be in the vicinity, and so it's a long long way down the track. I mean we're talking a two or three year consultation process before we even get to that stage. So there's plenty of land around Port Agusta, I can one way or another, I'm sure a suitable site.

Okay, those transition transmission lines. The Energy Minister here in SA, Tom Kutsantonus, has in the last hour tweeted out the lines are already full nearly fully says from renewables, a nuclear reactor at Port Agusta wouldn't need new transmission lines.

Okay, those transition transmission lines. The Energy Minister here in SA, Tom Kutsantonus, has in the last hour tweeted out the lines are already full nearly fully says from renewables, a nuclear reactor at Port Agusta wouldn't need new transmission lines.

Well you can. You can talk to Tom about that. And I've had some meetings with SAPAN Networks in the not so distant past and they have plans for the future one one another. There will probably need new transmission lines in the region anyhow to capitalize on a number of the projects that had already been announced in the reason because one of the things that I think people need to get their head clearly clear on is that we are not talking about a nuclear only nation. We're talking about a nuclear being in the mix of the electricity supplies which we have because at the moment we have we have coal, we have gas, and we have renewable and growing renewable. But one of the issues that we have, and I've only just recently written an article about that, particularly at this time of the year, South Australia are seventy one percent renewables. We're by far the leader in Australia once you take Tasmanian Hydro out. In fact, we have twice as much renewable as any other state, and yet our retail payer prices are fifty percent higher than the next. And the problem is the gaps are appearing when the renewables aren't working that are becoming increasingly expensive and difficult to fill. And as the qualified PAW stations of Victoria retired, we would not have the capacity to fill them unless we come up with something new.

Well you can. You can talk to Tom about that. And I've had some meetings with SAPAN Networks in the not so distant past and they have plans for the future one one another. There will probably need new transmission lines in the region anyhow to capitalize on a number of the projects that had already been announced in the reason because one of the things that I think people need to get their head clearly clear on is that we are not talking about a nuclear only nation. We're talking about a nuclear being in the mix of the electricity supplies which we have because at the moment we have we have coal, we have gas, and we have renewable and growing renewable. But one of the issues that we have, and I've only just recently written an article about that, particularly at this time of the year, South Australia are seventy one percent renewables. We're by far the leader in Australia once you take Tasmanian Hydro out. In fact, we have twice as much renewable as any other state, and yet our retail payer prices are fifty percent higher than the next. And the problem is the gaps are appearing when the renewables aren't working that are becoming increasingly expensive and difficult to fill. And as the qualified PAW stations of Victoria retired, we would not have the capacity to fill them unless we come up with something new.

So your argument would be that nuclear is going to be cheaper, but the cost of building nuclear needs to be factored in because that money's going to come from somewhere, and it's only going to come from consumers and the same people taxpayers.

So your argument would be that nuclear is going to be cheaper, but the cost of building nuclear needs to be factored in because that money's going to come from somewhere, and it's only going to come from consumers and the same people taxpayers.

Well, well that is the case with any I mean, that's where it's coming from. Renewables, and the subjects that go into renewables are coming out of the consumer's pocket, and they're very, very significant, and in fact, the best estimates on the labor plan at the moment is well in excess for trillion dollars to bring on their renewable revolution. Just to come back on the subject, I mean I checked last night in South Australia, around about twenty percent of our energy was coming from renewable and pretty much the batteries are all flat because we've had calm, cool, overcast weather, and so what where do you find the other seventy five percent of your electricity from? And so there needs to be a quantum shift in the way that we fashion this pursuit of net zero, and we think at the moment, in fact, it's quite obvious that we are not going to get there under the current regime, that the approvals are not going ahead quickly enough, and the backup is an almighty expensive thing. When you begin the pathway to renewables, the backup is cheap because this existing pair generation network, but the further you go down that pathway the dearer gets even though you need it less of the time.

Well, well that is the case with any I mean, that's where it's coming from. Renewables, and the subjects that go into renewables are coming out of the consumer's pocket, and they're very, very significant, and in fact, the best estimates on the labor plan at the moment is well in excess for trillion dollars to bring on their renewable revolution. Just to come back on the subject, I mean I checked last night in South Australia, around about twenty percent of our energy was coming from renewable and pretty much the batteries are all flat because we've had calm, cool, overcast weather, and so what where do you find the other seventy five percent of your electricity from? And so there needs to be a quantum shift in the way that we fashion this pursuit of net zero, and we think at the moment, in fact, it's quite obvious that we are not going to get there under the current regime, that the approvals are not going ahead quickly enough, and the backup is an almighty expensive thing. When you begin the pathway to renewables, the backup is cheap because this existing pair generation network, but the further you go down that pathway the dearer gets even though you need it less of the time.

Are you comfortable that people import Agusta, as the local member, are going to be happy with the uclear reactor in their backyard.

Are you comfortable that people import Agusta, as the local member, are going to be happy with the uclear reactor in their backyard.

Well, they had a code pat station for many many years. And the former mayor she's moved on now, but a very fan point there. And Enjoy Beloop said that coal fired pair station is killed board my people in Portagusta the nuclear everwood, and she's right. The I think the people of portogast are intelligent and this work won't be forced on any short period of time. This can take a long consultation period. Unlike the government's push your head with the offshore wing, which gave communities about two months, consider we're talking years, like two years of consultation. And there will be a very significant benefit for the communities that host these reactors. There will be hundreds of high tech, high paid jobs for one hundred years. There will be an economic development zone where we will see chief of Electricity made available to those that wanted to locate. There be a local transmission group. So all these things are to be developed in path in harmony with the local community. Now to have that conversation. It means that you need to go. They're not scared the horses, and I'm sure there will be people talking about two headed babies and three legged carrots as we speak. But I've been, as many other Australians have been to countries all over the world that either depend predominantly on nuclear energy like France and the US or else significantly, and they are those countries about building new reactors and in fact we've been left behind in the western world. China has twenty one under construction at the moment and are becoming the world's pre eminent supplier of nuclear energy, and they will have client states all over the world. So there are many pieces of this that are at play and that will take time for us to deal without at community level. But I can assure the people of Portagasta that I'll be there looking after their interests.

Well, they had a code pat station for many many years. And the former mayor she's moved on now, but a very fan point there. And Enjoy Beloop said that coal fired pair station is killed board my people in Portagusta the nuclear everwood, and she's right. The I think the people of portogast are intelligent and this work won't be forced on any short period of time. This can take a long consultation period. Unlike the government's push your head with the offshore wing, which gave communities about two months, consider we're talking years, like two years of consultation. And there will be a very significant benefit for the communities that host these reactors. There will be hundreds of high tech, high paid jobs for one hundred years. There will be an economic development zone where we will see chief of Electricity made available to those that wanted to locate. There be a local transmission group. So all these things are to be developed in path in harmony with the local community. Now to have that conversation. It means that you need to go. They're not scared the horses, and I'm sure there will be people talking about two headed babies and three legged carrots as we speak. But I've been, as many other Australians have been to countries all over the world that either depend predominantly on nuclear energy like France and the US or else significantly, and they are those countries about building new reactors and in fact we've been left behind in the western world. China has twenty one under construction at the moment and are becoming the world's pre eminent supplier of nuclear energy, and they will have client states all over the world. So there are many pieces of this that are at play and that will take time for us to deal without at community level. But I can assure the people of Portagasta that I'll be there looking after their interests.

Indigenous people, as you know in your electorate, have challenged successfully the Kimber Nuclear waste repository. The detail plant down towards Port Lincoln is in their sites. You're confident it won't it will last a challenge, it will outlive a challenge by local groups saying not on our land. Thanks.

Indigenous people, as you know in your electorate, have challenged successfully the Kimber Nuclear waste repository. The detail plant down towards Port Lincoln is in their sites. You're confident it won't it will last a challenge, it will outlive a challenge by local groups saying not on our land. Thanks.

Well, I don't know that anyone can do with that kind of confidence with anything at the moment, and it doesn't matter what you want to build, quite frankly, and I think that's another conversation Australia has to have rather urgently. But there will be great benefits for all people in Portagasta, not just the indigenous people. That will be jobs for them as well, so an opportunity. So I hope that we can have a reasoned, sensible adult conversation with all parties and that's the process of a long come period making sure that everybody gets hurt directly.

Well, I don't know that anyone can do with that kind of confidence with anything at the moment, and it doesn't matter what you want to build, quite frankly, and I think that's another conversation Australia has to have rather urgently. But there will be great benefits for all people in Portagasta, not just the indigenous people. That will be jobs for them as well, so an opportunity. So I hope that we can have a reasoned, sensible adult conversation with all parties and that's the process of a long come period making sure that everybody gets hurt directly.

All right, Rowan Ramsey, appreciate your time.

All right, Rowan Ramsey, appreciate your time.

Thank you, No no good to be with you.

Thank you, No no good to be with you.

Federal member for Gray, which takes in Port Augusta, the site of a nuclear power plant to be built by the Coalition if they win office. Peter Dutton still speaking in Sydney saying we need nuclear energy in the mix, first plant operational under their policy by twenty thirty five, and the Opposition saying in government they'll work with state premiers to overturn state bands on nuclear power and making the point made years ago by a former treasurer saying never stand between a premier and a bucket of money, so that might be the payoff the states to get special funding along the way to overturn nuclear power bands within state legislation.

Federal member for Gray, which takes in Port Augusta, the site of a nuclear power plant to be built by the Coalition if they win office. Peter Dutton still speaking in Sydney saying we need nuclear energy in the mix, first plant operational under their policy by twenty thirty five, and the Opposition saying in government they'll work with state premiers to overturn state bands on nuclear power and making the point made years ago by a former treasurer saying never stand between a premier and a bucket of money, so that might be the payoff the states to get special funding along the way to overturn nuclear power bands within state legislation.