Matthew Pantelis speaks with Naomi Marsh, Strategy and Project Manager, Committee for Adelaide on combating the brain drain.
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Let's talk about this as an idea put out by the Committee of Adelaide to pay young people a bonus to stay in South Australia, to stay in essay bonus it may or may not be cash, but incentives such as cheap housing or rent. It'll be aimed at twenty through to twenty five year olds, both locals and international students. And it's the old brain drain argument. We don't want to lose young people here in South Australia to the Eastern States, and we don't. We've never wanted to lose young people. But because companies headquarter in Sydney, Melbourne and even Brisbane, well that's where the jobs are, along with the bright lights and a big town feeling, and that's exciting to young people. Off they go. And it almost had me back in the day about the excitement of moving into state as a young man, but deep ties, family and friends kept me here, along with the fact on you Adelaide was a more affordable place to live. You only had to talk to people who had been inter state and they tell you the stories about how much rent they were paying and how long it took them to drive anywhere. And this is forty years ago, and in my day we lived near the beach. That was pretty cool. I had an okay job at the time, so thumbs up here I stayed. Governments have tried to entice people who have moved primarily East, back to Adelaide over the years. I remember the Olsen government had to bring them home campaign in the late nineteen nineties and the joke in Sydney was, well, we'll just warm up the Cessna. We're seen by many in the easters somewhere. You fly over to get to Perth and you know, almost you'd say, well so much the better, don't come and clutter up our city. But you know, and I know those who come here for a weekend are amazed by Adelaide, and they do return, and some even move for here. A bit like that old mad ad who brought his friends over. He couldn't believe what he'd been missing, remember that terrible ad campaign a few years ago. But paying people money to stay is a bit over the top, and to me it's smacks of desperation. It's like an admission of defeat that Adelaide isn't good enough to compete. But we can't hold a can to Melbourne and Sydney. Well, in some respects you know, we can't. But in others like liveability, cost of living, ease of moving around, we're head and shoulders ahead. And if there's areas we need to improve and well, let's spend the money here to improve in those areas. We've got so much going for us, space, defense, the food bowl of Australia, our wine regions the best in the world. Let are and the rest of the country startups at Lot fourteen establish startups like red Art now employing hundreds of people. We're so good at what we do well. Paying people to stay I think is insulting and after getting the money or the incentives, who's to say they don't leave anyway? We should be investing money in areas where we need to improve or improve further what we already do well. Otherwise, well, it's money down the brain drain. And mums and dads love to hear from you. Should your kids stay or go? Did they stay or go? What was the experience? Should they have been paid to stay? Love to hear your thoughts. Eight Double two to three D from the Committee for Adelaide Strategy and Project manager Naomi Marshy Naomi.
How are you hi, Matthew, how are you going?
All right? Thank you? So how would this work if it got off the ground.
Yeah, So this is one of the ideas we're just putting out there. As you mentioned, Adelaide, we are in a race for talent, a global race for talent. Every city, every state is competing. For a long time, we have struggled with getting a critical mass of jobs here to keep people here. We now do have the jobs, as you said, there's heaps of growth going it across defense, space, mining, energy resources. We need people. So this is just one idea in addition to a number of other ideas to encourage people here. And the concept is basically to encourage people, young people to study in Adelaide and then start their career here. So work full time for a couple for years, and then get a reward or a bonus. So our view is it's not a bribe, but it's not supposed to be offensive, more of a kick start for to their life in Adelaide rather than trying to attract people back to Adelaide as you mentioned some other.
Yeah, I don't know if it's a bribe or offensive. Well, no, sorry, I don't know if it's offensive. It does feel a bit like a bribe, it really does, and I get I get it, I get the sentiment behind it, but really I reckon we're better off spending money in creating whatever we need to create to entice people to stay, because it's a great a better place to live for sure, and I.
Get that start of it as well. Our view is it needs to we need to try something different, something new. We are a fantastic place to live. We've got so much going for us here, and as you said, when people do come here, they almost go, oh my god, why haven't I come here soon? Yeah, it is fantastic, But I guess what we're struggling with is we're competing with Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, London, New York, Auckland. So we are struggling. Every other city in the world is trying to attract people to support their economies in the industries. So it's just a concept, just an idea to get people talking. And as you mentioned, there's other ideas that we're talking about. Is also filter rent housing, So with rental vacancies so low in Adelaide, we can't encourage people hear and then not have anyone anywhere for them to live. So it's multi faceted.
Yeah, well it is as always. But you know, those other big cities and those international cities, London, New York, fantastic to visit, wonderful, ya who'd want to live there?
There's probably a lot of Adelaidians. I know, a lot of my social group has has traveled to London and some of the you two living in London, and then eventually they realize, actually, we have a really good here. So one by one they trickle back.
They do they do. We always get them back, I reckon.
Mostly yeah, and it's good. We want them. We want people to go out and get that world global experience, go and experience life in other places. But I guess there's a portion of people that if we could encourage them to stay here, start their career here, then we're going to be able to marry the people with the jobs that we need.
Yeah, okay, So and we're talking international students as well, aren't we. So they come and study and get the qualifications, and then we want to make sure they stay rather than return time or head into state.
That's definitely something we'd like to see federal government sort of manages the visa requirements for international students, and there is a proposal out at the moment at the federal level to cat international students. So that's something that we're quite concern and about because international students do make up a lot of our casual and part time workforce here, So if we were to drop international student numbers, we're going to be struggling even more in terms of skills and workforce. So and yeah, we had about forty fifty four thousand international students in Adelaide last year, so we've got this huge number of global talent on our doorstep. We would love to see them encouraged to stay on and work in that laid post their studies.
Is it a matter of getting the businesses here to employ them or is it you know, we can't click our fingers and create a Times square, you know, for instance, for sure, So what is do we need? Is it the businesses here? We've done a lot of that with Lot fourteen for instance, and all the startups there.
Yeah, yeah, no, definitely, industry and business definitely have a role to play. We hear time and time again when we speak to skilled migrants who have moved here that they struggle to get their foot in the door, and so it's looking at things, you know, I guess, educating businesses about the value of in employing international talent, what the benefits that they bring to their business. And a lot of employers here seem to be hell bent on needing local experience, so that's one of the hurdles we're hearing. So definitely businesses we are trying to encourage to look at international talent as well as local talent.
Cause well, all right, well, Naomi, good good luck with it whatever you end up doing, and hopefully something works. But yeah, I don't think we should be bribing them all good, No, it's a bonus. Naomi Marsh, Strategy and Project Manager Committee for Adelaide