Ashurst’s Elena Lambros welcomes special guest Natalie Kyriacou OAM for a wide-ranging chat that encompasses financial innovation, supply chains, and crucially, how Australia’s legal system can be a powerful force for climate action.

Having worked with corporates, government and charities, Natalie has seen what drives change from inside and outside the business world. In our podcast, she argues that governments and companies should be subject to a legal duty of care for young people and nature (similar to directors’ fiduciary duties). She also questions the logic of established economic frameworks and explains how these could be rewired to benefit people, planet and profit.

Natalie shares her pragmatic take on how corporates can regain trust in the wake of greenwashing scandals. She and Elena also discuss why supply chains are a two-way street when it comes to environmental accountability. And they shine a spotlight on overseas examples of nations taking bold steps to prioritise nature, economic progress, and social good.

Listen to more episodes in the Game Changers mini-series – featuring an array of talented guests – by subscribing to ESG Matters @ Ashurst on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

Ashurst&rsquo;s <a href="https://www.ashurst.com/en/people/elena-lambros/">Elena Lambros</a> welcomes special guest <a href="https://www.nataliekyriacou.com/">Natalie Kyriacou OAM</a> for a wide-ranging chat that encompasses financial innovation, supply chains, and crucially, how Australia&rsquo;s legal system can be a powerful force for climate action.
Having worked with corporates, government and charities, Natalie has seen what drives change from inside and outside the business world. In our podcast, she argues that governments and companies should be subject to a legal duty of care for young people and nature (similar to directors&rsquo; fiduciary duties). She also questions the logic of established economic frameworks and explains how these could be rewired to benefit people, planet and profit.
Natalie shares her pragmatic take on how corporates can regain trust in the wake of greenwashing scandals. She and Elena also discuss why supply chains are a two-way street when it comes to environmental accountability. And they shine a spotlight on overseas examples of nations taking bold steps to prioritise nature, economic progress, and social good.
Listen to more episodes in the <a href="https://www.ashurst.com/en/podcasts/game-changers-and-transition-makers/">Game Changers</a> mini-series &ndash; featuring an array of talented guests &ndash; by subscribing to ESG Matters @ Ashurst on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

Sustainability is an issue that affects us all, but how can we take steps to provoke meaningful change and make a lasting impact on environmental, social and governance issues across the globe? We explore the intersection of business value with business values for a more prosperous and sustainable future.

Sustainability is an issue that affects us all, but how can we take steps to provoke meaningful change and make a lasting impact on environmental, social and governance issues across the globe? We explore the intersection of business value with business values for a more prosperous and sustainable future.

Join us for our first podcast series, ESG Matters @ Ashurst as we go searching for answers and providing practical advice to help you address the challenges facing your organisation.

ESG Matters @ Ashurst Podcast

ESG Matters @ Ashurst

To round off 2025, we have saved one of the best episodes for last. Our guest is Natalie Kyriacou OAM, an award-winning environmentalist, charity director and author who provides an unflinching perspective on how business, government and finance could better nurture nature. Reflective and thought-provoking, this episode is ideal listening for the holiday season.

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