“A lot of the keys to decarbonisation are really simple, cheap ones if only we could break ourselves out of our normal patterns,” says Arup’s Joan Ko in this illuminating episode of Game Changers and Transition Makers.

In conversation with Ashurst’s Elena Lambros, Joan describes how Arup works with clients to engineer more sustainable environments and communities. Joan advocates a place-based approach to decarbonisation, where local infrastructure and social networks are reimagined to create climate-positive outcomes. She also emphasises the value of leveraging existing resources, such as under-used buildings, to achieve cost effective low-carbon solutions.

Along the way, Joan and Elena zoom in and out from the private sector to the public sector and from the personal to the political to reveal smarter ways to achieve climate action.

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