Jim Wilder interviews special guest Lisa from Minneapolis. She tells the story of intervening and de-escalating a stupid enemy mode situation. Jim, Ray and Jeremy then discuss the unique features of stupid enemy mode and the best pathways for re-engaging the relational centers of the brain to escape this version of enemy mode.

Jessie Cruickshank | The Science of Hate
30:16

General Becky Halstead | The Least Harmful Alternative
38:17

Congressman Geoff Davis | Us/Them and Politics
35:16