Phil Smith is a former TV journalist, radio host, novelist and RAAF Officer, and is now working on the Sunshine Coast as a Community Pastor with the Uniting Church.

That faith community is BELLS Caloundra, a fresh expression of belonging for anyone exploring faith, and a community with intergenerational fellowship at its heart.

Phil’s career in media and now ministry is fuelled by a love of listening and the privilege of shared stories, and on this episode he shares why it's OK to not go back to default mode in a church setting.

Intergenerate Australia and New Zealand exist to raise awareness of the importance of being more “Intergenerational” within faith communities, believing we can do more together than alone.

Intergenerate Conference 2023 is coming to venues across Australia and New Zealand  this August.

Visit the Intergenerate website for helpful resources, webinars and information on other events.

This podcast is produced with the support of Brisbane's 96five.