How do you make life-changing decisions when your heart and the science pull in different directions? In IVF, every choice carries both hope and heartbreak so how do you decide when to keep going, change course, or let go? In this episode of Empowered Fertility, we explore the emotional and practical realities of decision-making in IVF.

Leigh Arthur shares her deeply personal journey from pursuing IVF with her own eggs at 47 to ultimately choosing donor conception. She’s joined by reproductive health researchers Dr Tessa Copp and Dr Michelle Peate, who unpack how information, hope, and emotion intersect when navigating fertility treatment choices. A conversation about evidence, empathy, and finding your own version of empowered choice. Claire and Devora then discuss the concept of hopeful pessimism balancing optimism with realism and how evidence, emotion, and self-compassion can guide fertility decisions. A conversation about clarity, courage, and the power of making choices that honour both your heart and the science.

We’d love to hear from you, please contact us at:

empoweredfertilitypodcast@gmail.com

Contact Dr Devora Lieberman: www.drdevora.com.au or @dr_devora

Contact Claire Hall: www.authenticempowerment.com.au or @clairehallcoach

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Dr Tessa Copp’s paper ‘Your hopes can run away with your realistic expectations’: a qualitative study of women and men’s decision-making when undergoing multiple cycles of IVF’ Link

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How do you make life-changing decisions when your heart and the science pull in different directions? In IVF, every choice carries both hope and heartbreak so how do you decide when to keep going, change course, or let go? In this episode of Empowered Fertility, we explore the emotional and practical realities of decision-making in IVF.
Leigh Arthur shares her deeply personal journey from pursuing IVF with her own eggs at 47 to ultimately choosing donor conception. She&rsquo;s joined by reproductive health researchers Dr Tessa Copp and Dr Michelle Peate, who unpack how information, hope, and emotion intersect when navigating fertility treatment choices. A conversation about evidence, empathy, and finding your own version of empowered choice. Claire and Devora then discuss the concept of&nbsp;hopeful pessimism balancing optimism with realism and how evidence, emotion, and self-compassion can guide fertility decisions. A conversation about clarity, courage, and the power of making choices that honour both your heart and the science.
We&rsquo;d love to hear from you, please contact us at:
<a href="mailto:empoweredfertilitypodcast@gmail.com">empoweredfertilitypodcast@gmail.com</a>
Contact Dr Devora Lieberman:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.drdevora.com.au">www.drdevora.com.au</a> or @dr_devora
Contact Claire Hall:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.authenticempowerment.com.au">www.authenticempowerment.com.au</a> or @clairehallcoach
Looking for a Mind Body Fertility Group in Australia? Check out:&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.authenticempowerment.com.au/mind-body-program">www.authenticempowerment.com.au/mind-body-program</a>
Episode Coaching Tools:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.authenticempowerment.com.au/podcast">www.authenticempowerment.com.au/podcast</a>
Dr Tessa Copp&rsquo;s paper &lsquo;Your hopes can run away with your realistic expectations&rsquo;: a qualitative study of women and men&rsquo;s decision-making when undergoing multiple cycles of IVF&rsquo;&nbsp;<a href="https://academic.oup.com/hropen/article/2020/4/hoaa059/6046047">Link</a>
Our sponsor, Sapyen &ndash; &lsquo;The most accurate semen analysis&rsquo;
<a href="https://www.sapyen.co/">https://www.sapyen.co/</a>

The Empowered Fertility Podcast, hosted by Claire Hall and Dr Devora Lieberman, focuses on providing vital insights and support for people navigating fertility challenges.  Claire and Devora co-authored Empowered Fertility, a Practical Twelve Step Guide in 2016 and have collaborated on a number of projects since.  In this podcast series, they aim to integrate medical facts, emotional support, and practical strategies.  Each episode emphasises empowerment: informed decision-making, boundary-setting, and reclaiming a sense of control amid uncertainty.

Claire brings a heart centred and empathetic approach, sharing her 20+ years of experience in coaching hundreds of individuals and couples.  Devora, a well-known fertility specialist in Sydney, offers medical insights, expert advice, and what she’s learned in 25+ years of working in fertility. Together, they create a supportive and informative platform that aims to empower listeners with knowledge, hope, and practical strategies on their fertility journey.

The Empowered Fertility Podcast, hosted by Claire Hall and Dr Devora Lieberman, focuses on providing vital insights and support for people navigating fertility challenges.&nbsp; Claire and Devora co-authored Empowered Fertility, a Practical Twelve Step Guide in 2016 and have collaborated on a number of projects since.&nbsp; In this podcast series, they aim to integrate medical facts, emotional support, and practical strategies.&nbsp; Each episode emphasises empowerment: informed decision-making, boundary-setting, and reclaiming a sense of control amid uncertainty.
Claire brings a heart centred and empathetic approach, sharing her 20+ years of experience in coaching hundreds of individuals and couples.&nbsp; Devora, a well-known fertility specialist in Sydney, offers medical insights, expert advice, and what she&rsquo;s learned in 25+ years of working in fertility. Together, they create a supportive and informative platform that aims to empower listeners with knowledge, hope, and practical strategies on their fertility journey.

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