Eddie and JimmyJimmy Bartel and James Hird react to RD 14 including the unnecessary criticism of the Brownlow favourite, the AFL's 'plant' and what Tom Harley is going to bring for the fans.
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I've done it a couple of times when you haven't been here and haven't really got a word in, so maybe maybe we'll speak a bit more.
Well, that makes to us this might be actually the longest running podcast we've had in history at the moment. I know you passed the boss here at the MCG on your way down the corridor. I just want to know, are we still discussing the roof here at the MCG.
I think he said you please be quiet on the roof for the roof discuss He said this one down the road. But yeah, obviously they're looking at doing something here. But marvelous stadium.
Yeah, and as we look out, we always love to reflect on the MCG. Some serious patchwork going on out here at the G.
But you watch this. By the time we have a game, that'll be looking Christine.
I think the rain over the King's Birthday weekend and the number of games there really tore it up a bit and you can tell on the weekend, but the sounds going on to top dress it, and as you said, it'll be fantastic by the weekend.
Collingwood Free Space, well not quite well, of course, we'll touch the pies. They are absolutely low flying moment overseas.
If we didn't mention Colin.
Yes he's getting a nice beautiful sun tan over it because he still wear a suit on.
The beach, he'd be listening. Yes he does.
All right, let's get into all the action. Round fourteen. We still have two more buyers. How are we feeling about the by rounds? There's been a lot of discussion. Do we just have a week off footy? Do we do it over two weeks where there's a standalone game and all the other games? What are your thoughts.
I understand why they're doing it because of the broadcaster wants more content across the weekends. But it'd be great just to have one weekend or two weekends where they get them all out of the way, four games on one and four games on the other and get on with it.
I love a bit of a lateral thought, as you know, you and i've worked together this year on a couple of different mediums. I raised this a couple of months ago when a game was broadcast down in Tazzy about a night game. Do you think the AFL was mischievous enough to think, do you know what we should.
Do in the middle of winter?
We should put a night game down at Lonnie where it's one degree, and then we sparked the whole debate about the roof again. Of course, people footballs and winter sport, you're got to play in all conditions, which I tend to lean into. But people who are very much pro roof think, oh, there's a great case you need a roof down here.
Absolutely AFL did that for a purpose. We've been the system for a long time and at certain ends of the positive of the AFL the negative of the AFL, I've never known them not to do something for a reason, and I'm certain that that was for a reason to.
Show that everyone you needed a roof. But do we It's still a game football, isn't it.
And we've played in worse conditions than that, colder conditions, and that the Autelaid crows are probably like a roof the way they kicked, they kicked for goal.
But whether it's a.
Roof, I actually I didn't like playing under the roof personally. When it Marble had the roof closed, I'd much rather have it open. It just had a better atmosphere even at Marvel with the roof.
The thing I found about when you knew a Marvel game was coming up. We just took a complete element of your thinking out of it. So clearly, with weather, if you know it's forecast the rain at the G or down at Kidding your park or wherever you're playing, you're going, well, that our setup is going to be different. What are we going to do if it gets heavier? It could be clear for the first quarter? Do we park that plan and go with this plan. It just took a whole element out of preparation out of the game because you go, it's like when you used to go train at the basketball courts, when the coaches give you a fresh up. It just felt ball was going to zing around here. It'll be all about matchups, stoppage set up, and it took one little bit of thinking out of the game.
But I like that.
I like the elements the game and the G. You'd come on a Friday night and July August, she's not sure what it's going to rain, Dewey, what sort of weather you're going to get. But I think it helped the coaches and the players who were thinking ahead and a bit more strategic.
Is the roof for Team Tazzy or is it for the lure of traveling fans. So like that's a bit of the argument that I heard why there needs to be a roof, Like if the Crows were going to play the Devils, is the roof to attract those fans or is it for TV spectacle you think?
I think it's purely for football. I don't think the roof really matters either way.
I don't think.
But I think it's all about the concerts. I think it's about having other events there that you can actually you know, you can actually prepare that stadium form and you look at State I feel like we're going back on a gramm. You look at the stadiums around the world and what they've done, not just with the roof, with the surface where you can actually take the surface away too and you have a harder surface under the grass and you can actually run concerts, basketball games, swimming events like that's where stadiums that have been built around the world is now going. It's a multipurpose stadium. And if you're just having AFL football at that ground doesn't work. The economics don't work well.
And I think that's why the objection in parliament, like we're spending whoever thought it was going to be seven hundred and fifty. Binning was having a laugh because the first time they put a digger into the ground, they're going to hit a saber tooth tiger's bone, and then we're going to have a delay and then all the other added extras. Nothing has ever been the budget on a big project.
Live on your own house, your own house extension you build that goes up by thirty percent, no matter what.
No, it's definitely it'll be close to the two.
B in Yeah that it won't be it. Yeah, Well everyone's saying, many.
Big bags key forwards are all back.
Georgia Ardis could have probably kicked ten Yeah you had a kick straight Cadman a bit of a coming out party. But let's not ignore the fact. And I'll come back to Cadman and Hogan's game. Morris up the other end for the Lions kicked the bag, and of course, Geez Cameron just loves.
Where does that put Stephen Mayo George Yardis's game. Where does that leave Stephen may And he's because he's obviously still got talent, still got time in his contract that there was a lot about George Yardi's coming out but I thought it was a lot about the person playing on.
Him as well.
I love watching Georgia Ardi's behind the goals footage and if you Jacob Van Ryan, I think you should watch that because at the moment this is not a drive by and Van Ryan, but you look at the best to learn and I'm not saying George Yards is the best key for but the way he got Stephen mate was leading across the fifty diagonally shortly broke it back off, Whereas if you just lead straight at the kicker or just put the hand up down the line, Stephen mayo eat you up. And he still did that. Actually at times when actually Melbourne rabbed to slow up the ball movement and kick long down the line, Stephen may actually took a couple of hangers.
It is on the old rock band.
He took a couple, but as soon as the ball shifted off the line, he couldn't keep up. So it came from pressure up the field and ball movement, and it exposed Stephen at this stage of his career trying to move laterally across fifty.
And I think it's the work that Georgees was doing. As you said, before the ball came even the work off the ball when the ball's up there under the ground, wearing your opponent out, making sure that they do have the leg so that when you do go, they haven't quite got the power. Because if you're going to pind Stephen May, he's got this enormous amount of power. You want to wear him out before that comes too using his power.
I mentioned Aaron Cabman.
A lot of people saying is that the coming out party, of course was Game fifty, stood up where they needed him.
For the Giants.
He was able to get off the chain because Jack Payne, the big full back there who does a lot of the grunt work, so Harris Andrews can thrive. They're a good one two combo. The injury of pain. When you come in you said you've actually done that pateller injury. Snapped a pateller.
Yeah, my first my first year at Essenmon. It was a second practice Gume I ever played r up in Bendigo and I went up from Mark and came down and snapped the pattella and smashed my kneecap and originally thought it was an ACL and thought, thank God, it's not an ACL. But when you realize the recovery from that. It's not far off an ACL. It's sort of it's not as it's not as bad, but yeah, the recovery from it's going to take a while. It was sort of four or five months coming back, and I can't imagine him coming back this year. And it does leave you know, it does leave a lot of weakness that league. I'll do a lot of work on your on the muscles around your leg, but yeah, really it's really going to hurt the lines because you're a very important player for them.
Certain injuries when you come back from and I was very fortunate I never did anything major, but just talking to teammates. I remember talking to Dave Djinski, flying half back flanker winner coming back from an ACL, and he said it took him probably a good season to get proper confidence, like he was fine, but I'm running flat out.
I want to change direction?
Yeah I have? Or is it going to hold up?
In just that little the little.
Man inside going You hear players who have had lots of shoulder and just the first time reaching up and really testing an overhead mark with the patella, what was the little handbreaking your head to say Okay, it's fine.
What did you need to test.
Out and go?
I've just got to commit myself and it's going to be okay.
It's a long time ago now when I was eighteen years old, Jimmy, But for me it was about actually getting a nie the league straight Like it took me about a year to be able to get my leg fully straight and able to run. So a lot of that change the direction. We've actually down to Port Melbourne, got a play called Anthony and Nostasia, who's a fantastic small forward. He did his ACL or within five percent of his ACL in the first of February this year and played his first came back last week.
Wow.
So this new method where they braced the leg and they let it out sort of five degrees after six weeks, I can't believe. It's one of the best recovery I've ever seen without an operation. But because he had the five percent of it left, it's grown back and healed. Now he's one game back. And talk about the players that come back from ourselves, obviously not the AFL, but a remarkable story.
There is a surprise you just going to another key forward and coming back from an injury that looked horrific. It looked like it was gross. When you watch it, you thought, Jesus he broken his leg. Sam Darcy when he had that hybrid extinction. We're talking about a guy who is enormous, and when we see big guys, we always go oh every time they land, because it can be pretty awkward. The surprise of how well he came back it was like he never had an injury. Like you could forgive him for not quite launching at the footage, but it was like it never never even happened.
No, it is, and it's all credit to the footsco Western Bordog's medical staff, and also to Sam himself the way he's gone about it, and he's recovery because you're right, he looked like he hadn't missed a beat all year. And hopefully the lack of base training that he's got in his body, he'll be able to keep getting better. It won't affect him three or four games down the track. But yeah, you're right, he just looked incredible.
Moving on to a former teammate of his, Smith is the Brownlow favorite.
Could could be his partner in crime and Max Holmes or Jordan Dawson perhaps, but he'd be right up there in the top three or four at least.
Why don't you get to a certain level like Bailey Smith, the focus turns from not what you can do, but what you can't do. We tend to then pick the scabs off players a lot of focuses. Well Bailey had forty, but he had ten turnovers. When you look back on Brownlow, Millersts, not all of them have been the best kicks as greater players as they've been.
Yeah, on that five not a great kick. Patrick Cripps not a great kick, I think, But I think it is something you look to improve in your career. You know, She's when he's coaching us, when you've got to a certain level, he'd actually he'd actually say to you, if you want to go and be that absolute champion, that's the sort of go and clean that up. You've got all list you, you've got your power, you've got your your ability, go and really work on that. And I think if Baltie wants to go to the next level, yes, it's picking the scab off and it's been a little detailed, but yeah, why not try and make yourself an elite kick?
Because in danger field when he won his Brown log was an elite kick. All those guys have been inside, Yeah, contested players. You've got people hanging off you and you're just taking territory.
Absolutely.
Yeah, Yeah, I think it's when he gets out, you know, when he explodes out of a pack and he's going at pace. Maybe he's slow down a step or two. And this has been hypocritical. He's had an incredible year. But you know yourself if it's not even it's not about the laser kick or the like this. When Nick Dakos is fantastic, He's got a range of five or six different types of kicks. If you look at Bailey's kick, it's really it's a it's a smack kick, isn't It's a really powerful kick. Can you just be a bit more subtler with the way he used the ball?
He's a big meters game player. Yeah, and I do again.
I go back to danger when his first year, Joe, I think you set the record for inside forward fifties.
It was just brutal.
Inside, get to the outside and just drive the Ballfore it seems pretty similar with Bailey at the moment.
Yeah, a huge, huge meters going inside fifty and he but the level of football he's got to too after an eiriko is is quite extraordinary. You're always you know, my ear. He always thought the year after a new reconstruction, it wasn't going to be a great year. But the way that the medicos and the sports scientists and the sort of the have got it now they prepare the players to come back and play at their best level.
Kind of go back to Sam Darci just for a second, because I was thinking about the injury, and then obviously when he came into the game, there's a lot of comparisons to Paul Salmon. Do you see those comparisons similar? What's the what's the trajectory for Darcia is what makes him so exciting the fact that you know, when we have a player of that age, we got, oh wait till he gets to twenty five twenty system. He's already sort of doing the stuff that we're expecting at twenty five twenty six. So what is the trajectory for someone like that? And you've seen like another big, big freak, you know, like they're enormous. They market that their skills are good. He could quite easily play in the ruck and dominate. He could quite easily play it center half back, but he's as damaging as a key for well.
I think it's with Paul Salmon. It was, yes, it was his reach, but his agility and his ability to move He's speed off the mark, but it was on the groundbles. I mean, you know for gys too and send Me's I have picked the ball up off the ground like Samdars you can. You are almost unplayable if you've got that reach and a bit of a leap against most normal players. I remember I played probably five or six years with Fish and coming out of the middle of the ground or turning off half forward, you would literally just kick it high or favorite side and you didn't even have to kick it out in front. He just stand there and occasionally a back would get their arm to it or chop his arms. But with the rules the way they are now, you can't chop arms, you can't push them out of the way. If he gets even stronger and his legs and his backside, there's no beating him. I think the only thing that he can really start to improve is is the goal kick, to make sure that when he's got those opportunities, they're straight sort of the middle, because you had an observation last night about it.
You know, I like to look at things a little bit differently.
You know, when he lines up, I love that he's got a routine and his routine works, so people just laugh. I won't him be kept doing But he closes the eye? You know when you do the lineup, does he close the wrong eye?
Because when you look down the barrel.
And again I'm not a part of the Shooters and Fishers Club or anything.
Like that, not a duck shooting.
They're duck shooting and things like that. I'm not part of that. So anyone from Peter or whatever, I just relaxed. But if you're looking down the side of a gun, yeah you don't close the eye. You're looking down the side. So you gave the other I'm a lefty, you go like that.
If I'm a.
Lefty, Yeah, he's closing the wrong eye.
Well there's improvement for it, that's it. But I think with someone like Sam Darci, you're right, he hits such a level.
But as you know, it's consistency. You know, how old is he twenty one two? It's the ability for him to do it year after year, after year, game after game in a good side that's making finals regularly. That's what's going to put his name on the mark. And you know he's got players around him who are quality players who can keep delivering it to him. You know, the Western Bulogs are already you know, a chance of a flag without him, with him in good form and with our Norton coming behind him, and as we looked out last night, their draw is reasonably friendly.
So you got them a flag chance.
Not if I was a look right now, think so we've all got Collingwood. I think Collingwood and Gelong are probably the two. Adelaide are disappointed they lost, but they are a chance.
You got Geelong on the same line as colling who it's still calling with a bit of a gap.
Yep, Collingwood Gelong.
But I think the Bulldogs at the end of the year will be a top four. So they'll be in the top four and that's a different story. But they lost a Hawthorne when they didn't have Darcy. Then I think the back half the year, as you know, you can improve or you can go backwards like this is this is now where you see the best teams.
Yeah, in about a week or two. It's when they almost win out the season. We reflect after a side wins a premiership and we got hang on they won eleven of the last twelve or something ridiculous like I think Geelong on their charge fifteen on the on the trot the lines when they won theirs. I think they only lost twice and one was by kick to the swamp. And I think a point to Collingwood so and the.
Good sides now would be probably in July start. I think it's a bit of working them too, like really trying to get some get some heavy work into them so that come coming out of that work in August into September, you've got a really good base fitness.
Guess what the AFL has actually listened to everyone? Would you believe that you believe that these things on?
Ye?
Of course they made the appointment of Greek Swan into the real footy footy stuff and they've found their coo or the second cheese, Tom Harley, former teammate of mine. Before I get my give my thoughts on what I know of Tom Harley. If you're Tom Harley and you're in that real operationals place, so not Greek Swan where he's going to probably dig deeper into MRO and rules and clubs. Tom Harley's probably a bit more the bigger ticket items. I know you'll come down to those. But what's a big ticket item? If you were Tom Harley, what would you go?
Hang on?
Give me the file on this to start working on.
Well, the biggest I mean, the biggest threat to the game is still the concussion side of things. I mean, you're still you're still got to work out where we sit on that and the way the rules are to me, the way the rules are devised to protect what's going forward but also enable us to play the game the way the game is played, That to me is the biggest threat to whether the game is going the way we want to protect the head But also it's still the game that we love going to watch. And I don't know there's a solution, But you know, Tom's a very smart man, a very considered person that I don't know him that well. We're just having the time I spend, very considered person, and I think you'd be getting involved in that because the pure football person at the moment is going, well, is this the game that I want to go and see? But then on the other hand, you want kids to be able to play the game, and I'll end up with severe, severe problems with the head, and then I think the I still think the expansion side of thing in Queensland you said, wow, is still a very very important part of our game. I don't think you can sit idlely and think that New South Wales is a one more because rugby League. We sit down here and we think that you know, it's foot is great, We've got oscar numbers, but rugby League New South Wales is or dominant sport and if we don't continue to grow and get embedded in the community, they'll keep taking over.
Yeah.
I think the word you describe considered is very much Tom Harley. He will seek opinions, but still strong enough to have his own. He does bring people along for the ride, and he's the type of leader who you know, there's types of leaders who I'm the boss and there's a clear differential. Tom Haley is a type of guy who with everyone's better, I will look better. So how do I make all this level come up here? Because then I'm just managing them. So he's that type of person. He managed so many different personnelities. We had the weird and wonderful image alongside coaches included. But I think your point there was having some broader discussions around broadcast rights and where they're going. I'm one who's well and truly entrenched in that part of some of the big TV broadcasting deals and the way that they described where it's heading, and this is part of Tom Harley's brief, and your point is right regarding the growth in New South.
Wales and Queenslan.
Of course we'll have Tazzy and we'll still do stuff in WA and we've certainly got to focus on our heartland areas of course at Victoria, South Australia all that, But broadcasters on the next deal, they're already looking at the next one. So once this one finishes with seven and what it's des own Fox, they want to know if they're going to tip in multiple billions of dollars. Is if we have one just call it a round number of one million people who are fans of AFL football. They want to know the AFL's plan of how you're getting that one million to two men and quickly, because they're protecting their investments, so they just don't want you to lease the one million fans the broadcaster wants to come along with the sport. How can you turn one me in into two men? So our investment is actually worthwhile because if you're just going to give us the same all the time, there's no growth in any business. You have lived a life in business. It's all about where's my growth coming from. I don't want to buy on now's numbers. I'm buying on the next five six years.
On top of that and your point, it's a great point to your point is how are people going to consume their media going forward? Particularly you've got young children. I've got children a fair bit older, but they don't sit down. They wouldn't know what channel seven, Channel ten three to our TV is that. That's not how they watch it. It's on a streaming device now, that's now snapshots? Is it through X? Is it through some sort of people are going to sit and watch a whole game of football? The stats would say probably not. I mean they just haven't got the concentration span. So how do we continue to package our games, how to present our game so that enough people are watching it the way they want to watch it. Traditionally come to the game. We still get eight thousand, We still got one hundred thousand company these important games. But if you look at if kids are watching it on their mobile phone, on their watch, or however they're watching it in the future, can they watch three minutes and that's still valuable for the broadcast or whoever it owns the rights.
So how do we find that balance.
There's probably a question that doesn't have an answer, but you've touched on something. Even with grand final start time, even when a player coach raises the idea of shortening quarters, so they're sort of coming from well future, we need to capture this. But we've also got a fantastic traditional fan base, like an enormous fan base or awesome and as loyal as it can be. And if you took an AFL fan base, if you're a bank or an airline, the amount that you do to get that loyalty in a fan base, he'd be we'll give them a badge and a pin and a card for their membership, but they'd be getting comped all sorts of things if they had that loyalty. So how do we make sure that we don't and that loyal fan base into a disgruntled fan base, but then still try and do this over here.
Well, I think obviously no expert, but I think you still have to provide the pure classical content like we do on a weekend and there's nine games and potentially you don't forget to twenty teams the we ten games a weekend. I still think that content has to be protected.
But then the.
Content that's around that, that sits around that, whether it be you know, you drive to survive type shows, whether it be the football shows the thousands that are on at the moment that you shouldn't be too. I'm just not being critical that are on there, but is there some If you look at what FIFA have done. They've created this Club World Cup which is on at the moment between the best soccer players soccer teams in the world. That just created another event. Now I don't know how many people actually sit down to watch that event, but the content that's created, the snapshots and the vignettes, and so no one's a fan of the Club World Cup because it's just started, but there'll be content off the side of that that they can package up sell the sponsors. But if you look at overseas, still the Premier League doesn't stuff around with it with its key content, and I think the AFL has to keep this key content and so this is what we protect, But what's around it that becomes more interesting and engaging for the consumer.
And on the concussion piece, I'm with you on that. I think we need to start moving into finding real solutions. It feels like at the moment we've identified the problem, but we're still stuck with the problem. And I've said this a few times. I still feel like the current playing cohort is paying the price for previous mismanagement but also future litigation. So where can we go in preventative training exercises? You know, the prehabs? Is it about we're exploring? Is making the next stronger? And I know we knock down nine out of ten of these ideas, but let's explore them. Is it the way we treat it going forward? Is it the mental health off the back of you know, it's a brain injury. Yeah, so where is the recovery the rehab off the back of that? Is it the fact that if I'm James Hurd's player manager and I'm sitting down with asident, You're sitting there but also, there is a legal representative there and before we even address we're going to give you nine years at twelve million, because that's that's a nice contract, hearty. Before we give you that, this representative here is going to explain to you that the t's and c's and let's go through this before you do you actually understand what is at play here. Once you're comfortable with that, well then we can we can throw you that. So I think we need to start really exploring solutions. Is it insurance? Is there post football days? Where is the care and the cover? So I think we need to start really exploring those hearts.
I agree, I agree entirely.
How do you feel like in my time in football it's gone from being this very violent game where a bump to the head was celebrated. You know that we used to go to high nights at the local foota club where they put.
And every fantastic and you know whatever happened like that was that was part of the game, to now it's a I think it's a better game now because of the rules that are coming.
I think it's it's it's the way it should be. People's head should be protected. How do you feel do you feel the same or do you feel like the courage to play the game is not quite there as it was.
No, I still think you've got to be incredibly courageous to play it. Like, and I'm not dismissing another era. I'm one of those people you look at that era for what that area is, and then that's era. And I don't like comparing players from different areas because you play under those sets of rules and those bodies and people around you and everything like that.
So players are.
Bigger, yeah, Like we just look at it where you often go look at Patrick Crips, He's the same size and faster.
Yeah.
Yeah, And they're faster and the game's moving quicker, so it's a different type of courage. So like a collision hitting at the now, we all have to agree, is a lot faster than when even you and I were playing total So you still need to be courageous and brave to play the game.
It's just probably different.
And to back that up, one of the things that you talk about sling tackle, right, my dad was never a sling tackle because no one tackled two tackles a game was a record guys, having twelve fourteen tackles a game that wasn't celebrated back back.
When I played.
So it's the negative side of the game to spuild. The negating side of the game is such a big part of it now that you're right, and the game is now played in eighty meters away from each other, whereas back when I played, it was played across the whole ground and then weren't. Yes, there are big collisions, big bumps, but they weren't as big. They weren't smart. I actually like what the AFL has done to stamp out head contact, and I don't think it's changed the game too far to the negative. And you know, I think there's a bit of a way to go. They will get criticized. There will be incidents that we go, how can that player have made a decision? But in the long run, I think they're going down the right path.
Yeah, I think that Paul Curtis situation was a bit.
Of a but I agree with you. But I reflect back on that and players now are more careful when they make that tackle, and it was unfair on him, but it was better for the game in hindsight.
We still need tightening from me to side. We spoke about Jack Payne. Of course I did offer you a nine year deal at twelve men, you've knocked me back.
Give me the pen he didn't didn't give it to me.
Yeah, because he's probably getting taxed what you and I got paid across the course about care the long term contracts. Of course Melbourne's been down this path before, of course with Oliver and Petrarca. Of course they've gone back there again because he pick it being pretty young, it's still in his AFL career. The benefit the negative long term contracts. If you ahead of football or list manager, are you looking at these deals?
You have to look at them nicely, you know, individually. But you made a really good point last night before we went on air. I think it was you made the point of about you're not signing a deal with the club anymore. You sign a deal with the AFL. Because if you sign a nine year deal and you because he pick up, there's every chance that payment is going to come from another club. Another chance he's got to transfer it on. That's the way soccer's in the US are soccer and the Europe's gone. I mean the guys signed six year deals, they never see them out. They just they just the club has the power and then transfer that when they want to go.
It's agreeing to terms of how much are getting paid.
Yeah, it gives Melbourne greater leverage in whatever happens and Melbourne fans, I want him to play the nine years at Melbourn because you'll be an extraordinary But what are the odds of him playing nineties at Melbourne? You hope, you hope they're super positive for Melbourne. Yeah, but no one can forecast even two years.
No, that's right. I mean what was long steal? You ever signed four? Yeah? And four four was considered long? Yeah, I think I saw it.
It was a five year deal, but after it had I had to meet certain triggers to get the money in the fourth and fifth.
But yeah, that seems like a lifetime. Yeah.
It allows for people who are a bit funny that The positive from a list management side is your ability to move money around and if you've got years, you can can be really flexible. So when Melbourne wants to strike, hey, Cosey, can we shift three four hundred of that down the track smooth it out because that will help us bring in somebody else. Hang on, we're not going great We've had a few senior players go, we're pretty young. When you've got a lot of young players, of course they're off their base contracts. Can we move that one point three? Can we give you one point seven this year? Because you laid down the track, we'll need you down at the lower number when those kids start the spike. So it gives you options, it gives you flexibility. List managers don't mind it. And also once you get to nine years too, that's backing on. Also the fact that there will be another TV right still and sorry cap.
Increases, so will that be indexed or not?
See, that's a fascinating one. Some clubs are very good at keeping the increase.
Because if you're the club, you don't want to index to the player.
You do want to index so people playing at home. There are some players having their contract. If the sorry cap goes up by seven percent, they either get the full seven percent on theirs or there might be up until a certain point they get four percent or five percent.
And there's other club that go, no, we're keeping it.
We're keeping it because we've given you the length of the deal.
So you've got to be pretty savvy if you're a.
List manager these absolutely Well, that's all the big topics. Time for the world famous Bartel metal. I've been listening in you discuss me how you turn so quickly.
I've been highly critical of you.
Well, because you get it right.
You give a vote to every player in the AFL, so we'll tab enjoy it because they sponsor it, and they seem to keep coming back.
Our man Jamal keeps sending in his votes.
I love Jamal.
He's Jamal of around fourteen has given Max Holmes three votes, Tom libertore two and Harry she's all one.
But Jamal I agree with He's given three players three votes. You've given there's a lot of players on him.
There's a lot of players.
But I'm still going. But I still but.
I actually get it right.
But is there another sheet with the rest of them? Listen?
Given play the Bartell Medal from round fourteen. One vote Matt Kennedy. How good of a recruit as he's been. And I love when players improved their game year on you hidden the scoreboard goal kicking. Ed Richards is an absolute star. He's no longer a half back flanker who feels in the midfield. He's a legitimate Star and Harley Reid had a beauty against the Blues twenty eight seventeen contested.
Just go get an easy ball?
Can you?
Harley? Two votes.
Part of Hawthorne's resurgence in the last couple of weeks is having Wettal and Hardwick playing permanent roles in defense. So wrong over there in the West Logan Morris, Bailey Smith only two, Jeremy Cameron, McCarthy has this McCarthy. Tom McCarthy wasn't on West Coast list three weeks ago thirty touch as first Eagle to have thirty. This year he went at ninety four percent. And George Hewitt continues his very good year for the Blues.
I can ask a question in the same player can play from the same team get three votes? Yeah, So Bailey only got two yes and Jeremy Cameron got two as well. He kicked six in an AFL game these days you get the votes.
So he's better than Maxhames got three.
Yes three votes.
Max Holmes, Sam Darcy the Unicorn Impy was very good for the Hawks.
Jesse Hogan Cabman both got three.
Here you go.
Bray Shaw, George Yatis and Horn Francis.
It's confusing, but anyway, it's pretty.
Simple here Balley Bartell Medal leader board twenty five, Bailey Smith and Nick Diacos out in front. They'd probably be the two leaders for the Brownlow, wouldn't they? And we we'll see, and Caleb's wrong might be on the podium Hogan Butters and Rosie and Jeremy Cameron closing fast. That was the amazing Bartel medal that has no disputes or anything like that is one hundred sent correct. Everyone else can go get stuffed.
Yeah. Thanks, I'll just ask questions. I can criticize, question criticism.
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