For decades, global climate talks have largely focused on reducing emissions. But at a landmark conference in Santa Marta, Colombia, countries, scientists, Indigenous leaders and civil society groups gathered to tackle a much more direct question: how do we actually move the world away from fossil fuels themselves? The First Conference on Transitioning Away from Fossil Fuels, co-hosted by Colombia and the Netherlands, has been described by some observers as a possible turning point in global climate diplomacy, with participating nations calling for clearer roadmaps, fairer financing, and a faster transition away from coal, oil and gas. So what really happened at Santa Marta, what were the big conversations and tensions in the room, and could this mark the beginning of a new phase in global climate action? To help us unpack it all, we’re joined by Nithi Nesadurai, the Director & Regional Coordinator at Climate Action Network Southeast Asia (CANSEA), who attended the conference in person.