There's an expectation New Zealanders will continue to file out of the country in high numbers.

The latest figures from Stats NZ show more than 130,000 people left the country in the year to April, the highest number on record.

Among those were a record 81,200 NZ citizens.

ASB Senior Economist Mark Smith told Mike Hosking that we are moving in the right direction, but there’s still a way to go yet.

He said it’s reflective of what’s happening offshore as well, as Australia’s unemployment rate is lower than ours, as well as higher wages and lower living costs being on offer. 

He said it’s pretty clear from a New Zealander’s point of view that it’s probably better across the ditch.

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There's an expectation New Zealanders will continue to file out of the country in high numbers. 
The latest figures from Stats NZ show more than 130,000 people left the country in the year to April, the highest number on record. 
Among those were a record 81,200 NZ citizens. 
ASB Senior Economist Mark Smith told Mike Hosking that we are moving in the right direction, but there’s still a way to go yet. 
He said it’s reflective of what’s happening offshore as well, as Australia’s unemployment rate is lower than ours, as well as higher wages and lower living costs being on offer.  
He said it’s pretty clear from a New Zealander’s point of view that it’s probably better across the ditch. 
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Mark Smith: ASB Senior Economist on the number of NZ Citizens leaving New Zealand

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Surging global oil prices and bond yields could keep inflation higher than expected and force the Reserve Bank to raise the OCR faster than expected. 

Some economists now expect the Official Cash Rate to reach 4% before the end of the year. 

The Government says the Pre-election Economic and Fiscal Update —due out in two weeks— will try to reflect changes in borrowing costs. 

Infometrics Principal Economist Brad Olsen told Andrew Dickens further conflict in the Middle East is pushing up oil prices, as fears grow about an AI bubble burst. 

He says both of these things are happening, amidst mounting concerns about government debt. 

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Surging global oil prices and bond yields could keep inflation higher than expected and force the Reserve Bank to raise the OCR faster than expected.&nbsp;
Some economists now expect the Official Cash Rate to reach 4% before the end of the year.&nbsp;
The Government says the Pre-election Economic and Fiscal Update —due out in two weeks— will try to reflect changes in borrowing costs.&nbsp;
Infometrics Principal Economist Brad Olsen told Andrew Dickens further conflict in the Middle East is pushing up oil prices, as fears grow about an AI bubble burst.&nbsp;
He says both of these things are happening, amidst mounting concerns about government debt.&nbsp;
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Brad Olsen: Infometrics Principal Economist on how an uncertain global bond market could impact New Zealand

July's record tourism numbers are being seen as a reflection of investment finally paying off.   

Stats NZ data shows 256,600 overseas tourists arrived during the month, overtaking pre-Covid numbers from July 2019 by 0.4%. 

Rotorua Mayor Tania Tapsell told Andrew Dickens the effort from local councils, regional tourism operators, and the Government is bearing fruit.  

She says July is usually a quiet time, so the big win is the 70% jump in business events that keep the likes of Rotorua afloat. 

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July's record tourism numbers are being seen as a reflection of investment finally paying off. &nbsp;&nbsp;
Stats NZ data shows 256,600 overseas tourists arrived during the month, overtaking pre-Covid numbers from July 2019 by 0.4%.&nbsp;
Rotorua Mayor Tania Tapsell told Andrew Dickens the effort from local councils, regional tourism operators, and the Government is bearing fruit. &nbsp;
She says July is usually a quiet time, so the big win is the 70% jump in business events that keep the likes of Rotorua afloat.&nbsp;
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Tania Tapsell: Rotorua Mayor on tourism arrivals overtaking pre-Covid numbers

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On the Early Edition with Andrew Dickens Full Show Podcast Tuesday the 15th of September 2026, international visitor numbers are finally back above pre-Covid levels, Rotorua Mayor Tania Tapsell tells Andrew how the government's tourism push has helped. 

Migrant arrivals for the year were up 5%, immigration expert Simon Laurent shares his thoughts. 

Our debt situation might be catching up to us as the global bond markets start to get anxious, Infometrics Principal Economist Brad Olsen explains. 

Plus, Australia Correspondent Donna Demaio has the latest on Pauline Hanson asked to apologise over nasty and divisive comments about First Nations Australians and the first confirmed case of bird flu, an endangered an Aussie sea lion.

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On the Early Edition with Andrew Dickens Full Show Podcast Tuesday the 15th of September 2026, international visitor numbers are finally back above pre-Covid levels, Rotorua Mayor Tania Tapsell tells Andrew how the government's tourism push has helped.&nbsp;
Migrant arrivals for the year were up 5%, immigration expert Simon Laurent shares his thoughts.&nbsp;
Our debt situation might be catching up to us as the global bond markets start to get anxious, Infometrics Principal Economist Brad Olsen explains.&nbsp;
Plus, Australia Correspondent Donna Demaio has the latest on Pauline Hanson asked to apologise over nasty and divisive comments about First Nations Australians and the first confirmed case of bird flu, an endangered an Aussie sea lion.
Get the Early Edition Full Show Podcast every weekday on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
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Full Show Podcast: 15 September 2026 

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Mark Smith: ASB Senior Economist on the number of NZ Citizens leaving New Zealand

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