Political pundits wouldn't be surprised if coalition talks go on for some time yet.
New Zealand First leader Winston Peters isn't answering questions about negotiations and he and Act's David Seymour aren't talking.
National doesn't know whether deals will be done in time for incoming Prime Minister Chris Luxon to attend the Apec Leaders' Summit in San Francisco on Sunday.
Newstalk ZB Political Editor Jason Walls told Kate Hawkesby Luxon has said, if need be, he will can that trip.
He says it could drag out for a while or be done quickly, but Luxon has been doing some work in the lead up to the specials.
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