Today on the show...

• I’ve watched Shane Jones through every twist and turn - from scandal to comeback. Right now, he’s found his voice, calling out race division and pushing for a future where being Kiwi matters more than skin colour. Like it or not, Jones might be the leader we need. Tonight we speak to him.
• And some feedback from you!

Website: https://www.rova.nz/home/podcasts/duncan-garner---editor-in-chief.html Instagram: @DuncanGarnerpodcast 
TikTok: @DuncanGarnerpodcast