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He is drinks chants, motherfucking podcast man.

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Chans, motherfucking post.

Every day is New Year, c That's it's time for drink champs. Drink up, motherfucking motherfucking.

Every day is New Year, c That's it's time for drink champs. Drink up, motherfucking motherfucking.

Would it gonna be? Hoping it should be? This is your boy n A O N A A one ups d J E f N this drink chances, motherfucker man, And right now our guest. He has changed changed music, change the face of music. He has countless hiss countless break records, countless, I'm counted them. He's he is really changed the face of music. He's he's innovative, motivator. He's one of the best personalities in music business period. I could watch him just talk. I can watch him just he's just he's just just a natural entertainment. He walked in the spot just now and hate me.

Would it gonna be? Hoping it should be? This is your boy n A O N A A one ups d J E f N this drink chances, motherfucker man, And right now our guest. He has changed changed music, change the face of music. He has countless hiss countless break records, countless, I'm counted them. He's he is really changed the face of music. He's he's innovative, motivator. He's one of the best personalities in music business period. I could watch him just talk. I can watch him just he's just he's just just a natural entertainment. He walked in the spot just now and hate me.

Cord so in case.

Cord so in case.

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I don't know, we talked about we talked about the fact it was the damn peckabo t motherfuck.

Pain in the buildings.

Pain in the buildings.

Pay I assume that's what that sounds.

Pay I assume that's what that sounds.

My first aloud, I was I was the best.

My first aloud, I was I was the best.

Not the best I had to That's that's that's that's one of my big questions. I was going to ask you, do you still love performing?

Not the best I had to That's that's that's that's one of my big questions. I was going to ask you, do you still love performing?

That's my favorite thing of this whole. It's in a tie with making other people's vision come to life and performing. It's like, that's like my favorite ship. Like to see somebody like it's like commissioning a painting, you know what I'm saying, and actually have it, actually have somebody come like, wow, that's exactly how I thought that was gonna look. And then performing its neck and neck for me, that's my favorite part.

That's my favorite thing of this whole. It's in a tie with making other people's vision come to life and performing. It's like, that's like my favorite ship. Like to see somebody like it's like commissioning a painting, you know what I'm saying, and actually have it, actually have somebody come like, wow, that's exactly how I thought that was gonna look. And then performing its neck and neck for me, that's my favorite part.

That's a major Major Records, So you don't the crowd could literally be a hype man.

That's a major Major Records, So you don't the crowd could literally be a hype man.

Yeah, I didn't have to do a lot of singing lesson. I ain't been on stage in like a year and a.

Yeah, I didn't have to do a lot of singing lesson. I ain't been on stage in like a year and a.

Half that you're saying that you missing it.

Half that you're saying that you missing it.

I missed it, man, I ain't been on stage and like a year some change, and I didn't know what be and tired was until last night, because that Cardio on that motherfucking stage was a different beast and I was not I was not prepared, but I got tired like halfway through. But you know, I'm also thirty six.

I missed it, man, I ain't been on stage and like a year some change, and I didn't know what be and tired was until last night, because that Cardio on that motherfucking stage was a different beast and I was not I was not prepared, but I got tired like halfway through. But you know, I'm also thirty six.

It's not that that makes a noise.

It's not that that makes a noise.

I'm not out. I'm glad. I didn't even glamb it that.

I'm not out. I'm glad. I didn't even glamb it that.

He didn't get to kill Get what happened here right here?

He didn't get to kill Get what happened here right here?

I couldn't have it. Also, can we get my wife a tear? Chance? Sonny given to kill?

I couldn't have it. Also, can we get my wife a tear? Chance? Sonny given to kill?

You know what I mean?

You know what I mean?

We want to give up? You was supposed to get up your chair. A god, your shivy is dad for real? He's looked around like that. These niggas is wack.

We want to give up? You was supposed to get up your chair. A god, your shivy is dad for real? He's looked around like that. These niggas is wack.

So one of one of the stories I wanted to get to immediately was the Cheraiment story, right okay, yeah, because I started to look more further into it and y'all said he was your friendship, So yeah, No, I never lost.

So one of one of the stories I wanted to get to immediately was the Cheraiment story, right okay, yeah, because I started to look more further into it and y'all said he was your friendship, So yeah, No, I never lost.

Love for okay, like that was never a thing. He just made me think about shit a little harder and kind of fucked up my way.

Love for okay, like that was never a thing. He just made me think about shit a little harder and kind of fucked up my way.

What is exact words? He said, you fucked up music.

What is exact words? He said, you fucked up music.

I didn't I didn't change anywhere. He said, A nigga said you fucked.

I didn't I didn't change anywhere. He said, A nigga said you fucked.

Up music for real, and he was dead serious, dead serious, like you want to be sarcastic joking with you.

Up music for real, and he was dead serious, dead serious, like you want to be sarcastic joking with you.

Nigga said you fucked up music for real singers, and I thought he was joking and I laughed and he was like, nah, for real, was fond of that when he so for that for a better term? Right, how did you discover orto?

Nigga said you fucked up music for real singers, and I thought he was joking and I laughed and he was like, nah, for real, was fond of that when he so for that for a better term? Right, how did you discover orto?

To him? Because I'm gonna be honest with you. What's the guy?

To him? Because I'm gonna be honest with you. What's the guy?

His name Robin?

His name Robin?

He used it in the told he wasn't the talkbox.

He used it in the told he wasn't the talkbox.

That's a completely different He used talkbox. So that was like, you gotta learn how to fucking play keys, and you know you gotta play version. What do you celebrate?

That's a completely different He used talkbox. So that was like, you gotta learn how to fucking play keys, and you know you gotta play version. What do you celebrate?

So so how did you get so?

So so how did you get so?

What? What was it in the studio record? I was it was a fucking commercial. There's a goddamn commercial.

What? What was it in the studio record? I was it was a fucking commercial. There's a goddamn commercial.

Uh.

Uh.

Dark dark Child used it on a Jennifer Yeah producing. Dark Child use it on the Jennifer Lopez remix and I heard it for like two seconds. I'm like, I gotta find out what that is because I want to use it on the whole song.

Dark dark Child used it on a Jennifer Yeah producing. Dark Child use it on the Jennifer Lopez remix and I heard it for like two seconds. I'm like, I gotta find out what that is because I want to use it on the whole song.

You know what's funny That's how I got introduced. Told told about Auto too. Was Jennifer Lopez. Somebody says that that they I was in an engineer. I was in. I was with an engineer engineer, and he told me, he said, listen, just got to do for jennif vocals. So I didn't know. I thought it was just some singing ship. Now you like like you took it, and now everybody like I take her to use it.

You know what's funny That's how I got introduced. Told told about Auto too. Was Jennifer Lopez. Somebody says that that they I was in an engineer. I was in. I was with an engineer engineer, and he told me, he said, listen, just got to do for jennif vocals. So I didn't know. I thought it was just some singing ship. Now you like like you took it, and now everybody like I take her to use it.

How it wasn't supposed to be used? Well, you said you heard the share record. Was that you didn't know? I hadn't heard the share record up until that point. Wow, once I found it, then people start saying, you know, share this, And then I heard Kanye use it like before my ship came out. I used it before Kanye, but Kanye's use of it came out before mine. So it was a ton of people had used it, and nobody was able to influence a generation, you know what I'm saying. So it was it was it was highly sought after.

How it wasn't supposed to be used? Well, you said you heard the share record. Was that you didn't know? I hadn't heard the share record up until that point. Wow, once I found it, then people start saying, you know, share this, And then I heard Kanye use it like before my ship came out. I used it before Kanye, but Kanye's use of it came out before mine. So it was a ton of people had used it, and nobody was able to influence a generation, you know what I'm saying. So it was it was it was highly sought after.

Well everybody was using it, nobody at the level that you used it exactly.

Well everybody was using it, nobody at the level that you used it exactly.

And even even the people that did, like Kanye did it on a bunch of interludes on Cottage dropout and I heard that, I'm like, oh, that's the ship I'd be using. And then it still wasn't able to influence a generation until I got involved with ato's and heartbreaks, and then then now everybody's like, oh I got it from godspel auto too and harder when you perform, you perform in order to I never use altotune live because the thing about auto tune it only can process one voice at a time.

And even even the people that did, like Kanye did it on a bunch of interludes on Cottage dropout and I heard that, I'm like, oh, that's the ship I'd be using. And then it still wasn't able to influence a generation until I got involved with ato's and heartbreaks, and then then now everybody's like, oh I got it from godspel auto too and harder when you perform, you perform in order to I never use altotune live because the thing about auto tune it only can process one voice at a time.

Wow.

Wow.

So if you're performing with it and you're singing, but also twenty thousand people are also singing, it's it goes to different. It sucks up your own constant. It's hard twenty thousand questions at one time, but alto tune is only able to do one at a time. So I never use it live. I make sure I do everything I do live is uh is autoitude free because it just sounds fucking stupid. And it was oh boy, that's that was three days of that wow, rolland loud, just all performing with auto time, just everybody, So three days of that sound and it was just I don't I don't know how motherfuckers could.

So if you're performing with it and you're singing, but also twenty thousand people are also singing, it's it goes to different. It sucks up your own constant. It's hard twenty thousand questions at one time, but alto tune is only able to do one at a time. So I never use it live. I make sure I do everything I do live is uh is autoitude free because it just sounds fucking stupid. And it was oh boy, that's that was three days of that wow, rolland loud, just all performing with auto time, just everybody, So three days of that sound and it was just I don't I don't know how motherfuckers could.

Listen to that.

Listen to that.

That was crazy.

That was crazy.

Do you realize how big all I do is win.

Do you realize how big all I do is win.

The record is so we we we started calling it the Confetti song. Confederate. I was like, what you're doing? Switch Now we call it the confetti song because you only play it when Confettians. It's that big where it's like the end of every sports event, the end of every fucking thing. People are changing the words to fit their narrative. It's just, yeah, I know how big it is the publishing Confetti just confess, just Confediti. Now I'm just ripping them up the front.

The record is so we we we started calling it the Confetti song. Confederate. I was like, what you're doing? Switch Now we call it the confetti song because you only play it when Confettians. It's that big where it's like the end of every sports event, the end of every fucking thing. People are changing the words to fit their narrative. It's just, yeah, I know how big it is the publishing Confetti just confess, just Confediti. Now I'm just ripping them up the front.

Is this something that college said to you? He said yeah.

Is this something that college said to you? He said yeah.

He's like.

He's like.

He was like, I'm tired of losing. I'm tired of losing. I refuse to lose. All I want to do is win. And I'm like, cool, you just wrote the song get out. I went straight in. I went straight in, but I did the ad libs first, and he didn't understand what I was doing. I did reverse. I learned it from I learned from bus around all the time, so I learned from bust arounds. I did the ad libs first to set the tone for the top line. Uh call. It was like, I don't like this, you gotta we gotta pick another beat. And I'm like, dude, you you gotta get the fuck out of here if you would just accommodate me and leave nigga. So he left and when he came back, it was the biggest song. You know what I'm saying.

He was like, I'm tired of losing. I'm tired of losing. I refuse to lose. All I want to do is win. And I'm like, cool, you just wrote the song get out. I went straight in. I went straight in, but I did the ad libs first, and he didn't understand what I was doing. I did reverse. I learned it from I learned from bus around all the time, so I learned from bust arounds. I did the ad libs first to set the tone for the top line. Uh call. It was like, I don't like this, you gotta we gotta pick another beat. And I'm like, dude, you you gotta get the fuck out of here if you would just accommodate me and leave nigga. So he left and when he came back, it was the biggest song. You know what I'm saying.

It's like, I don't correct me if I'm wrong. It's the biggest one, the biggest one. I'm still I'm just how.

It's like, I don't correct me if I'm wrong. It's the biggest one, the biggest one. I'm still I'm just how.

Many of those do we have? Can we get more of those? So I can take home the you everything you don't want to do that for everything, whatever you need.

Many of those do we have? Can we get more of those? So I can take home the you everything you don't want to do that for everything, whatever you need.

So so I sus says this right, and I think you said you went into depression, but you didn't go too depression because of that.

So so I sus says this right, and I think you said you went into depression, but you didn't go too depression because of that.

That was just that was the straw that broke the camel's back. That was just it. I was going through so much ship already, you know, from the initial hate of Autotoon, you know what I'm saying, just from everybody. But it was like I can handle Twitter and Instagram and ship like that. I could deal with that. And at that time, it was like, dude, you can do fifteen second videos autoto attleton, I can deal with that, Like I don't even know Jason, Like I can deal with that ship. But this some woman in front of you or something like that. Something were gonna get We're gonna get to all that ship was fine. But I actually like you're talking about somebody like us here that I that in my bedroom writing down lyrics to Jesus. But like I'm sitting like as a kid, I'm sitting in my bed writing down lyrics to this song so I can learn his song. I'm righting dow fucking my way, Like you know what I'm saying, Man, what I say, I'm screaming in my room. I'm like singing this nigga song and then that person that I respect so much tells me that I fucked up everything.

That was just that was the straw that broke the camel's back. That was just it. I was going through so much ship already, you know, from the initial hate of Autotoon, you know what I'm saying, just from everybody. But it was like I can handle Twitter and Instagram and ship like that. I could deal with that. And at that time, it was like, dude, you can do fifteen second videos autoto attleton, I can deal with that, Like I don't even know Jason, Like I can deal with that ship. But this some woman in front of you or something like that. Something were gonna get We're gonna get to all that ship was fine. But I actually like you're talking about somebody like us here that I that in my bedroom writing down lyrics to Jesus. But like I'm sitting like as a kid, I'm sitting in my bed writing down lyrics to this song so I can learn his song. I'm righting dow fucking my way, Like you know what I'm saying, Man, what I say, I'm screaming in my room. I'm like singing this nigga song and then that person that I respect so much tells me that I fucked up everything.

And the weird part about it, you said you went to the back of the playing.

And the weird part about it, you said you went to the back of the playing.

He no, it was so it was first class and you know the little the little cut, the fighting tens. They called me back there. So to have that like you know, you know, you know that one person in the click that's always apologizing for something like my bad Bros. That's because somebody he truly respected told him to stop doing something that he actually liked doing. And that's how that felt. So you know what I'm saying, I could deal with Twitter and people I don't even know Ship like that. But but somebody I truly respect coming to me and saying that that's tore me down. And he didn't really explain it.

He no, it was so it was first class and you know the little the little cut, the fighting tens. They called me back there. So to have that like you know, you know, you know that one person in the click that's always apologizing for something like my bad Bros. That's because somebody he truly respected told him to stop doing something that he actually liked doing. And that's how that felt. So you know what I'm saying, I could deal with Twitter and people I don't even know Ship like that. But but somebody I truly respect coming to me and saying that that's tore me down. And he didn't really explain it.

He just said, no, Bro.

He just said, no, Bro.

I called Mark Pitts after that. I call hi, Mark Pitts. When I got off the plane, I'm like, bro, your boy. He's like, oh man, he just be saying. My prisiness manager at the time like, no, your boy, and he's like, oh yeah, he just be saying Ship. I'm like, I'm trying to picture you just walk away with your head. What what do you say? Right after he says that nothing, I'm.

I called Mark Pitts after that. I call hi, Mark Pitts. When I got off the plane, I'm like, bro, your boy. He's like, oh man, he just be saying. My prisiness manager at the time like, no, your boy, and he's like, oh yeah, he just be saying Ship. I'm like, I'm trying to picture you just walk away with your head. What what do you say? Right after he says that nothing, I'm.

Gonna tell you.

Gonna tell you.

I'll tell you absolutely nothing.

I'll tell you absolutely nothing.

I'm gonna tell you, or you can tell me if you wanted these type of people. If I think a person don't like me, I immediately don't like them.

I'm gonna tell you, or you can tell me if you wanted these type of people. If I think a person don't like me, I immediately don't like them.

Is that Penny No. But I'm the kind of person that if I find out somebody don't fuck with me, I try to got what I did.

Is that Penny No. But I'm the kind of person that if I find out somebody don't fuck with me, I try to got what I did.

Oh no, ye yourself.

Oh no, ye yourself.

I'm trying to because I've been I've been gas lit so much in my career, my managers and labels and ship. It's I automatically think everything that's happening to me is because of me, Like you know what I'm saying, Like I automatically think that.

I'm trying to because I've been I've been gas lit so much in my career, my managers and labels and ship. It's I automatically think everything that's happening to me is because of me, Like you know what I'm saying, Like I automatically think that.

So in your head after us says this, you're saying, you know what if.

So in your head after us says this, you're saying, you know what if.

I be right? No, it might be right, yo, because because this is you gotta think I've seen this man work. He's got perfect pitch. He's got this man never needs spectum, someone never need all the time, like he never needed. This nigga in my eyes, almost like Michael Jackson. On my eyes, this nigga is the best musician of all time. If he said this is like Herbie Hancock telling me I'll hit a wrong note. Bro, I did obviously, let me tell you.

I be right? No, it might be right, yo, because because this is you gotta think I've seen this man work. He's got perfect pitch. He's got this man never needs spectum, someone never need all the time, like he never needed. This nigga in my eyes, almost like Michael Jackson. On my eyes, this nigga is the best musician of all time. If he said this is like Herbie Hancock telling me I'll hit a wrong note. Bro, I did obviously, let me tell you.

Obviously. To me, I would immediately say, I'm throwing confessions.

Obviously. To me, I would immediately say, I'm throwing confessions.

So what you want to put some of the face I'm not. Now I'm in my hotel and like I'm completely opposite, bro, like I'm like this thing, it might be right.

So what you want to put some of the face I'm not. Now I'm in my hotel and like I'm completely opposite, bro, like I'm like this thing, it might be right.

Okay, define all the two comes out, not just in you you Okay.

Okay, define all the two comes out, not just in you you Okay.

He knew what he was doing, all right. It's not like he didn't know when that when the nigga says something is whack, it's whack.

He knew what he was doing, all right. It's not like he didn't know when that when the nigga says something is whack, it's whack.

He said, so you said too many.

He said, so you said too many.

T Paine, He said, you're t paining too much. But but that's actually bigger than the second originated and the second verse. Okay, nigga, I started out as I was DJ Pain before I was T pain. Nobody makes it to the second verse. Okay, nigga, Yeah, tell me tell me a song that Drake got on where he goes second? He knows this, This man knows this. Nobody makes it to the second verse.

T Paine, He said, you're t paining too much. But but that's actually bigger than the second originated and the second verse. Okay, nigga, I started out as I was DJ Pain before I was T pain. Nobody makes it to the second verse. Okay, nigga, Yeah, tell me tell me a song that Drake got on where he goes second? He knows this, This man knows this. Nobody makes it to the second verse.

So where are you at when you actually hear?

So where are you at when you actually hear?

I'm at home. I saw someone's hold you. No, nigga, it's all over the internet everywhere. Anybody has to call me. I mean if people weren't calling. But I'm just picking up the phone. I said it.

I'm at home. I saw someone's hold you. No, nigga, it's all over the internet everywhere. Anybody has to call me. I mean if people weren't calling. But I'm just picking up the phone. I said it.

I heard it.

I heard it.

Stop, I seen it. Bro, When did you hear it?

Stop, I seen it. Bro, When did you hear it?

What do you immediately think? You think he's thissing you?

What do you immediately think? You think he's thissing you?

Or you think of course really? Of course, A wise man once said, I can't not to hustle. But that's like, I'm the face of this, just like Loui Yatti was the face of mumble rap. Anytime somebody talked about mumble rap, lou Yatta was the first person I come up. I was the face of auto tune anybody. Anytime somebody said auto tune, I'm the face. So when you say auto tune is whack, I'm the face. If I would have said Blue Yankees are terrible, everybody will been like, are you just jay Z?

Or you think of course really? Of course, A wise man once said, I can't not to hustle. But that's like, I'm the face of this, just like Loui Yatti was the face of mumble rap. Anytime somebody talked about mumble rap, lou Yatta was the first person I come up. I was the face of auto tune anybody. Anytime somebody said auto tune, I'm the face. So when you say auto tune is whack, I'm the face. If I would have said Blue Yankees are terrible, everybody will been like, are you just jay Z?

Now?

Now?

Want to know? I'm just saying I don't. I'm not from New York, Nigga, Dont worry.

Want to know? I'm just saying I don't. I'm not from New York, Nigga, Dont worry.

Ye if someone says, did you'll podcast? Motherfuckers gonna take a person you know, ain't pert doing the podcast?

Ye if someone says, did you'll podcast? Motherfuckers gonna take a person you know, ain't pert doing the podcast?

Alcohol and.

Alcohol and.

The jay Z because I thought he was kind of bigging you up, like yo, y'all taking his ship like his teeth. Pain is the first, that's his ship. That's how I took it. I'm not. I'm not you so I can't in.

The jay Z because I thought he was kind of bigging you up, like yo, y'all taking his ship like his teeth. Pain is the first, that's his ship. That's how I took it. I'm not. I'm not you so I can't in.

The second verse, Yeah, I gottes and I can concur know how you know how far down the sales of Molly went with that, Nigga said, I own pop Moley. Really don't everything, bro. Anytime this nigga says something is whack, it's trash. Everybody like Nigga, don't funk with that sitting on marrow.

The second verse, Yeah, I gottes and I can concur know how you know how far down the sales of Molly went with that, Nigga said, I own pop Moley. Really don't everything, bro. Anytime this nigga says something is whack, it's trash. Everybody like Nigga, don't funk with that sitting on marrow.

I'm not I threl out of your niggah to be out on the soul.

I'm not I threl out of your niggah to be out on the soul.

Once he said, I'm trying to hear big and some cuts from.

Once he said, I'm trying to hear big and some cuts from.

Norri and how could you not?

Norri and how could you not?

My ing went through the roof. I said, what the he just picked me up? I was done yesterday? What the hell? No he is words like I mean it's whole.

My ing went through the roof. I said, what the he just picked me up? I was done yesterday? What the hell? No he is words like I mean it's whole.

Like so, let me ask you, as an artist, you think this is a shot being taken at you do you gotta.

Like so, let me ask you, as an artist, you think this is a shot being taken at you do you gotta.

Keep in mind this is after usher. It's like that's what I'm already feeling it And hold.

Keep in mind this is after usher. It's like that's what I'm already feeling it And hold.

You because dependent say, do I answer back?

You because dependent say, do I answer back?

I did? You did? I did? It was gonna be the entry this record. Yeah, it was tracy like wrap Nigga, uh No, But I was I'm also drunk so that I thought I was real into myself at the time. But no, I didn't like while I was don't even know, I can't even remember, Like I was like really drunk, Like it was like the end I was. I was like, I was like ready to go. I was ready to be done. I was like, if I'm gonna go with the business, I was done with life. Nigga was like, no, I was no.

I did? You did? I did? It was gonna be the entry this record. Yeah, it was tracy like wrap Nigga, uh No, But I was I'm also drunk so that I thought I was real into myself at the time. But no, I didn't like while I was don't even know, I can't even remember, Like I was like really drunk, Like it was like the end I was. I was like, I was like ready to go. I was ready to be done. I was like, if I'm gonna go with the business, I was done with life. Nigga was like, no, I was no.

Nos in your mind at this point.

Nos in your mind at this point.

I was like good, I was good, Like what am I doing this for? Like I'm good if I'm gonna go out. I'm gonna go out super drunk. I'm gonna just drink myself to death. Hopefully my heart rate goes up fast enough and I.

I was like good, I was good, Like what am I doing this for? Like I'm good if I'm gonna go out. I'm gonna go out super drunk. I'm gonna just drink myself to death. Hopefully my heart rate goes up fast enough and I.

Could just so your engineer is somewhere sitting on this record somewhere in the world.

Could just so your engineer is somewhere sitting on this record somewhere in the world.

Yeah, I know I did it in Vegas. I know I was in Vegas at the time because I made the record after I did a show in Vegas and everybody in the crowd was like, Jay Zu killed you roll. That was home. I'm never doing Chelsea again. So it was and it's all like bros. It's all you know, white boys are the bro And I'm like, my dude, I'm up there like playing the piano. I'm like, no, no, the whole time I'm playing the piano and singing, I'm like, all right, y'all got it, Fuck you niggas. I'm out there. And I ended the show early and then I just went and drank myself, trying to drink myself and death. And I was just like I'm doing was involved. It was a lot of hens. That was. It was all straight room temperature. Yeah, I was straight out the bottle. I was just like, man, I'm gonna just go like the next day, my managers was like, do you remember saying fuck jay Z on stage? I was like no, I didn't like cool, here's a video somebody remixed it. But now man, I was just ready to ready to go man. And I went in the studio and I started recording the record and my managers were like, I think we just need to take a break. You're on a lot of records. Uh, that's just gonna last. People are doing promo for you, you know, gonna nobody. You're not gonna be missed. And then we were supposed to take a break for like two months, and I'll take a break for like four years, you know, you know.

Yeah, I know I did it in Vegas. I know I was in Vegas at the time because I made the record after I did a show in Vegas and everybody in the crowd was like, Jay Zu killed you roll. That was home. I'm never doing Chelsea again. So it was and it's all like bros. It's all you know, white boys are the bro And I'm like, my dude, I'm up there like playing the piano. I'm like, no, no, the whole time I'm playing the piano and singing, I'm like, all right, y'all got it, Fuck you niggas. I'm out there. And I ended the show early and then I just went and drank myself, trying to drink myself and death. And I was just like I'm doing was involved. It was a lot of hens. That was. It was all straight room temperature. Yeah, I was straight out the bottle. I was just like, man, I'm gonna just go like the next day, my managers was like, do you remember saying fuck jay Z on stage? I was like no, I didn't like cool, here's a video somebody remixed it. But now man, I was just ready to ready to go man. And I went in the studio and I started recording the record and my managers were like, I think we just need to take a break. You're on a lot of records. Uh, that's just gonna last. People are doing promo for you, you know, gonna nobody. You're not gonna be missed. And then we were supposed to take a break for like two months, and I'll take a break for like four years, you know, you know.

You know, sorry to change something a little bit, but a lot of times you said something that was that they won't miss you. The fans have to actually miss you, Like a lot of times when the artists, when the artist is over, you know over you know, on on all the things you on on the radio you want to they don't appreciate you, Like yeah, like me doing shows overseas, I always felt better because they only got to see me once a year as opposed to doing it in Brooklyn.

You know, sorry to change something a little bit, but a lot of times you said something that was that they won't miss you. The fans have to actually miss you, Like a lot of times when the artists, when the artist is over, you know over you know, on on all the things you on on the radio you want to they don't appreciate you, Like yeah, like me doing shows overseas, I always felt better because they only got to see me once a year as opposed to doing it in Brooklyn.

But my fuck is just so used to you like you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, it is a that's that's probably the most Brooklyn thing I've heard. That said it's real normal, like jay Z down the streets. It was crazy.

But my fuck is just so used to you like you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, it is a that's that's probably the most Brooklyn thing I've heard. That said it's real normal, like jay Z down the streets. It was crazy.

So so if this record was to ever see the light.

So so if this record was to ever see the light.

Of day, I don't even think I finished it because because my manager came in the booth while I was doing the booth like this. It's a good manager would have just stopped, all right, now you're doing so much and I'm like, they got it, and he's like, okay, now you gotta go home.

Of day, I don't even think I finished it because because my manager came in the booth while I was doing the booth like this. It's a good manager would have just stopped, all right, now you're doing so much and I'm like, they got it, and he's like, okay, now you gotta go home.

What year?

What year?

What year was that record? The Death of Attitude?

What year was that record? The Death of Attitude?

Remember, Engineer, you started doing records though without autotune? Though right no, because I swore I'm not.

Remember, Engineer, you started doing records though without autotune? Though right no, because I swore I'm not.

This is the thing. Remember we got a record from him? Uh huh.

This is the thing. Remember we got a record from him? Uh huh.

I could have sworn that you sent us a record for him that didn't have autotune on it.

I could have sworn that you sent us a record for him that didn't have autotune on it.

That was probably an engineer's fault. Man, Because I was like joy I turned it down and there was around no reality time.

That was probably an engineer's fault. Man, Because I was like joy I turned it down and there was around no reality time.

Oh yeah yeah yeah. Did you ever meet ja after this?

Oh yeah yeah yeah. Did you ever meet ja after this?

A ton of times?

A ton of times?

A ton of times?

A ton of times?

So I love how he laughed. I'm so fucking awkward, bro, I love it. I love it.

So I love how he laughed. I'm so fucking awkward, bro, I love it. I love it.

I was.

I was.

So I saw him and be at a Grammy after party.

So I saw him and be at a Grammy after party.

I love the floors.

I love the floors.

I love the floors him and be at the Grammy.

I love the floors him and be at the Grammy.

At the party, I.

At the party, I.

Had two cups of Hennessy, so I couldn't shake his Hennessy. I ain't going nowhere. It didn't, it didn't leave. You didn't shake the man's hand. I couldn't. I had two cups of Hendy. It's more important than because put it. There's no tables, there was literally nowhere. I had to put it on the ground. It had been weird, but there were whatever, but they were really fucking they were like, no, they were they were. They were very full, so I would have my finger in the hole. So two cups of Hannessy stupid, and I was up. I was thinking of what to say. I wanted to say two things and they collided. I wanted to say thank you for everything, but also sorry for the confusion. And I said sorry for everything.

Had two cups of Hennessy, so I couldn't shake his Hennessy. I ain't going nowhere. It didn't, it didn't leave. You didn't shake the man's hand. I couldn't. I had two cups of Hendy. It's more important than because put it. There's no tables, there was literally nowhere. I had to put it on the ground. It had been weird, but there were whatever, but they were really fucking they were like, no, they were they were. They were very full, so I would have my finger in the hole. So two cups of Hannessy stupid, and I was up. I was thinking of what to say. I wanted to say two things and they collided. I wanted to say thank you for everything, but also sorry for the confusion. And I said sorry for everything.

Bro.

Bro.

He knew I couldn't shake his hand, and the nigga hit me with one of the it's all good, bro on my head, bro, why And then I tried to Oh God, damn. I tried to comfort myself a little bit by doing the elbow to be she hit the elbow, the fucking Hennessy dropped on her white dress. God, this is getting I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go find the closest gun. I'm gonna just go ahead and just find the closest gun. Listen, this has been great. I appreciate Tom. I'm gonna just go ahead and I'm good and ended. Now I'm gonna just go find security. Come on, you kick me out, bro, somebody come take these I don't know, somebody kick me out this motherfucker, please, Bro. Shit my elbow and no ship, long long ass white dress too, like one of the ones like somebody just wanted to carry behind you and shit, yeah it was. I did not do good that day.

He knew I couldn't shake his hand, and the nigga hit me with one of the it's all good, bro on my head, bro, why And then I tried to Oh God, damn. I tried to comfort myself a little bit by doing the elbow to be she hit the elbow, the fucking Hennessy dropped on her white dress. God, this is getting I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go find the closest gun. I'm gonna just go ahead and just find the closest gun. Listen, this has been great. I appreciate Tom. I'm gonna just go ahead and I'm good and ended. Now I'm gonna just go find security. Come on, you kick me out, bro, somebody come take these I don't know, somebody kick me out this motherfucker, please, Bro. Shit my elbow and no ship, long long ass white dress too, like one of the ones like somebody just wanted to carry behind you and shit, yeah it was. I did not do good that day.

I formed it in front of you one day or so much jam or something like that. So I hit.

I formed it in front of you one day or so much jam or something like that. So I hit.

Two people that was supposedly connected to Jay z on at summer jam. They told me he was triple booked and he wasn't gonna be there because I was calling to say when Jay performs the song was important. I want to go out. I want to go out and support the ship. They say these triple book He's not even gonna be at Summer Jam. The nigga shows up at Summer Jam and I'm like, okay, cool, way to fucking do that. I guess I wish I had. I wish my managers would fucking lie for me. He comes out on Jez setting. Then he does a bunch of songs and I'm like, ship, I want to go, I want to I wanna. I still want to support the song because by this time I had heard the second verse and ut painting too much, and I'm like, oh, okay, cool, I'm gonna go out. Keep in mind, jay Z is always surrounded what a pack of Muslims. I can say that because I'm Muslims, pack of muscles. He's surrounded by by fruit of Islam all the time, niggas in suits. Boom Ebro comes up and I say, Hebro, Bro, he's about to do the song. I gotta go out there, he said. Hebro says, te pains come and make a whole f O.

Two people that was supposedly connected to Jay z on at summer jam. They told me he was triple booked and he wasn't gonna be there because I was calling to say when Jay performs the song was important. I want to go out. I want to go out and support the ship. They say these triple book He's not even gonna be at Summer Jam. The nigga shows up at Summer Jam and I'm like, okay, cool, way to fucking do that. I guess I wish I had. I wish my managers would fucking lie for me. He comes out on Jez setting. Then he does a bunch of songs and I'm like, ship, I want to go, I want to I wanna. I still want to support the song because by this time I had heard the second verse and ut painting too much, and I'm like, oh, okay, cool, I'm gonna go out. Keep in mind, jay Z is always surrounded what a pack of Muslims. I can say that because I'm Muslims, pack of muscles. He's surrounded by by fruit of Islam all the time, niggas in suits. Boom Ebro comes up and I say, Hebro, Bro, he's about to do the song. I gotta go out there, he said. Hebro says, te pains come and make a whole f O.

I found.

I found.

They back up. You can't just get on jay Z's stage when like it's jay Z my nigga. You can't just get up there. They make a hole. I go on stage.

They back up. You can't just get on jay Z's stage when like it's jay Z my nigga. You can't just get up there. They make a hole. I go on stage.

I'm with him.

I'm with him.

The whole time he's performing the joint and at the end, I'm like, this is gonna be cool as ship because I'm gonna shake his hand and then we're gonna it's gonna show everybody that's like, it's gonna be We're gonna squash it right here in front of everybody.

The whole time he's performing the joint and at the end, I'm like, this is gonna be cool as ship because I'm gonna shake his hand and then we're gonna it's gonna show everybody that's like, it's gonna be We're gonna squash it right here in front of everybody.

Right.

Right.

He looks at my hands, like, good riddings, and then just walk I was like, worse. We made it worse?

He looks at my hands, like, good riddings, and then just walk I was like, worse. We made it worse?

Did?

Did?

He definitely said breaking? He said good ridden it's summer tam. It's on video like he think it said good riddens and it walks off. Oh, he walks off. He walked off, not good riddings and points at you and goes like this, No, I'm sitting there with my hand out. He looks at my hands, d Marty.

He definitely said breaking? He said good ridden it's summer tam. It's on video like he think it said good riddens and it walks off. Oh, he walks off. He walked off, not good riddings and points at you and goes like this, No, I'm sitting there with my hand out. He looks at my hands, d Marty.

This is after the Grammy party of this is before them.

This is after the Grammy party of this is before them.

This is before the Grammy.

This is before the Grammy.

Okay, yeah, this is hit on beast.

Okay, yeah, this is hit on beast.

Okay, not quite yet. But no, he looks at my hands and goes, good riddens. But he had says, I'm not sure he had his eyes open. I don't know. No, he probably see your hand. He was he see I was the only other nigga on stage. I don't know how looking down, bab, he's looking up. He was looking right at me. I'm not I was the Corners nigga for like six seconds. Go oh my god, I was. You know what people people always say, like t pain has a way of making you feel bad for him. But I'm like, bro, I just don't know the background of these fucking stories. This shiit sucks. It really fucking ups and I don't like legit. Never try to, you know, instigate anything or put these stories out like oh this is gonna be this gonna be good for a podcast or anything like that, like these is real ship, Like you know what I'm saying, I'm just fucking transparent because the image people having in their heads of me don't really mean a lot of shit to me, you know what I'm saying. I've learned how to fucking move past what people think of me, you know what I'm saying. So it's easier to tell these stories when you know you don't give a ship of the outcome, you know what I'm saying. It's just it's it's just so much easier. It's also better when you're drunk. So this is this has been great.

Okay, not quite yet. But no, he looks at my hands and goes, good riddens. But he had says, I'm not sure he had his eyes open. I don't know. No, he probably see your hand. He was he see I was the only other nigga on stage. I don't know how looking down, bab, he's looking up. He was looking right at me. I'm not I was the Corners nigga for like six seconds. Go oh my god, I was. You know what people people always say, like t pain has a way of making you feel bad for him. But I'm like, bro, I just don't know the background of these fucking stories. This shiit sucks. It really fucking ups and I don't like legit. Never try to, you know, instigate anything or put these stories out like oh this is gonna be this gonna be good for a podcast or anything like that, like these is real ship, Like you know what I'm saying, I'm just fucking transparent because the image people having in their heads of me don't really mean a lot of shit to me, you know what I'm saying. I've learned how to fucking move past what people think of me, you know what I'm saying. So it's easier to tell these stories when you know you don't give a ship of the outcome, you know what I'm saying. It's just it's it's just so much easier. It's also better when you're drunk. So this is this has been great.

Recently, you was viral, viral, viral or something that you said that you're standing for. Let's stand on creativity by day. If I was named Nori, you couldn't even be called Corey because it was all right, my bad, So there it is. So we my favorite rapper is one of my favorite rappers. Granddaddy are you? If you listen to my stuff, you can't tell that I love Granddaddy you because I purposely wanted to be different from them.

Recently, you was viral, viral, viral or something that you said that you're standing for. Let's stand on creativity by day. If I was named Nori, you couldn't even be called Corey because it was all right, my bad, So there it is. So we my favorite rapper is one of my favorite rappers. Granddaddy are you? If you listen to my stuff, you can't tell that I love Granddaddy you because I purposely wanted to be different from them.

You have to. You said something that was crazy. You said, we got two babies event he said, they already doing it.

You have to. You said something that was crazy. You said, we got two babies event he said, they already doing it.

I think your message was absolutely correct, but a lot of people don't know, don't know, you don't know so that you were yelling, so when it was yelling, they took it as like you were hating.

I think your message was absolutely correct, but a lot of people don't know, don't know, you don't know so that you were yelling, so when it was yelling, they took it as like you were hating.

Yeah, when well, also because I'm older than twenty five, okay, cool? You know that that helps a lot. That helps a lot to say I'm hating. You know the thing that, like you said in our day, if you remotely sounded, acted, remotely anything similar to another artist, you were immediately canceled. You can do nothing like bro like you can't well you couldn't. You couldn't do that when we're when we're doing our shit, you had to come with something different, originality. The labels were looking for different shit. The labels were looking for andre three thousands lab They weren't like, how.

Yeah, when well, also because I'm older than twenty five, okay, cool? You know that that helps a lot. That helps a lot to say I'm hating. You know the thing that, like you said in our day, if you remotely sounded, acted, remotely anything similar to another artist, you were immediately canceled. You can do nothing like bro like you can't well you couldn't. You couldn't do that when we're when we're doing our shit, you had to come with something different, originality. The labels were looking for different shit. The labels were looking for andre three thousands lab They weren't like, how.

Do we the labels is lazy now the labels actually going back then, the labels let you get hot.

Do we the labels is lazy now the labels actually going back then, the labels let you get hot.

Do you know.

Do you know.

Labels made seventeen billion dollars last year? I believe you know how much artists made of that?

Labels made seventeen billion dollars last year? I believe you know how much artists made of that?

No?

No?

Twelve percent? Wow, twelve fucking percent all artists. I don't know. If you've been on the Discovery page and Spotify lately, it's a lot of artists right now. More. There's more artists than chairs in the world right now, and the niggas ain't got to I had to ask for a chair for my wife. It's crazy but that, but we we outnumber these motherfuckers. And it's easier than ever to be your own label now, and niggas is still choosing to spend somebody else's money because it's just hard to spend your own money nobody. Plus the labels are in the mix with the streaming ship to even things all of it. You're independent, you think you're independent, but there's ways to get around that niggas, niggas, it's late for you right now. I didn't do nothing. I just want to redact. I want to redact the couple. I just want to redact a couple's hands. Damn it. All the hell did y'all niggas.

Twelve percent? Wow, twelve fucking percent all artists. I don't know. If you've been on the Discovery page and Spotify lately, it's a lot of artists right now. More. There's more artists than chairs in the world right now, and the niggas ain't got to I had to ask for a chair for my wife. It's crazy but that, but we we outnumber these motherfuckers. And it's easier than ever to be your own label now, and niggas is still choosing to spend somebody else's money because it's just hard to spend your own money nobody. Plus the labels are in the mix with the streaming ship to even things all of it. You're independent, you think you're independent, but there's ways to get around that niggas, niggas, it's late for you right now. I didn't do nothing. I just want to redact. I want to redact the couple. I just want to redact a couple's hands. Damn it. All the hell did y'all niggas.

So let's get back to the originality, Because why did people take your message the wrong way?

So let's get back to the originality, Because why did people take your message the wrong way?

Like?

Like?

Why why why you said the most perpose?

Why why why you said the most perpose?

Because because it makes them not a part of the crowd anymore. The thing that the thing that made everybody come together and be like, Okay, this is cool is because motherfuckers is like it works. I'm not I'm not bad at what I do. You just don't understand it. And if you don't understand it, you're old and you're hating, and everybody wants to be like, well, I'm not, I'm not old. I don't think I'm hating. So you have to like it. If you if you are in a friend circle and you pretend to like something for so long, you have to keep doing that, or you have to keep that going. If you are the one person in your friends circle that would actually listen to fucking Nickelback, you're going to be out of their friend circle. Nobody wants to be out of their fucking friends circle. That you have to do it so in order to keep that facade going that your hip and you're cool and you know what you're talking about. You're just old as fuck. You don't understand it. Uh, you have to keep that facade going. And the reason people didn't take they knew what I was talking about. They didn't take it wrong, they didn't take it wrong. They just don't want to be wrong. They don't want to be wrong, they don't want to be like fu damn, this nigga's right.

Because because it makes them not a part of the crowd anymore. The thing that the thing that made everybody come together and be like, Okay, this is cool is because motherfuckers is like it works. I'm not I'm not bad at what I do. You just don't understand it. And if you don't understand it, you're old and you're hating, and everybody wants to be like, well, I'm not, I'm not old. I don't think I'm hating. So you have to like it. If you if you are in a friend circle and you pretend to like something for so long, you have to keep doing that, or you have to keep that going. If you are the one person in your friends circle that would actually listen to fucking Nickelback, you're going to be out of their friend circle. Nobody wants to be out of their fucking friends circle. That you have to do it so in order to keep that facade going that your hip and you're cool and you know what you're talking about. You're just old as fuck. You don't understand it. Uh, you have to keep that facade going. And the reason people didn't take they knew what I was talking about. They didn't take it wrong, they didn't take it wrong. They just don't want to be wrong. They don't want to be wrong, they don't want to be like fu damn, this nigga's right.

Literally the other day the other day, I couldn't tell what the fuck I was listening to the radio because it all just sounds the same. And I just went back to your statement. I was just like THEMN, like, why the fuck? Why was he being chasted?

Literally the other day the other day, I couldn't tell what the fuck I was listening to the radio because it all just sounds the same. And I just went back to your statement. I was just like THEMN, like, why the fuck? Why was he being chasted?

You know?

You know?

And and you know what, you know what another reason that people took that message wrong because there was nothing before or that. So what I was doing was my Twitch stream where people send me their music, and I literally do a whole twits stream where I ate I rate music on my Twitch stream. So I'm rating music on my twist stream and everybody sending me the same record, and I'm like, bro, I can literally tell you. It's frustrated.

And and you know what, you know what another reason that people took that message wrong because there was nothing before or that. So what I was doing was my Twitch stream where people send me their music, and I literally do a whole twits stream where I ate I rate music on my Twitch stream. So I'm rating music on my twist stream and everybody sending me the same record, and I'm like, bro, I can literally tell you. It's frustrated.

Bro.

Bro.

I was like, dude, because I I like, I like, make money for that ship. You know why, I probably make money for that siting. I'm like, if I'm I get it, I'm getting paid and ship, but please make it enjoyable.

I was like, dude, because I I like, I like, make money for that ship. You know why, I probably make money for that siting. I'm like, if I'm I get it, I'm getting paid and ship, but please make it enjoyable.

Part of the part of the reason why people were coming to ask you was because you lot. People didn't know that you coined auto tune, and everyone else kind of sounded like you, right, So I was sounding like, yeah, exactly, they thinking that you was a part of the bunch. So I was reading the comments. I literally posted it on mind. So I posted your clip on my and I read I've read all the comments and they're like, whoa they Most people were confused, because, yeah, you know what it is. I think that the fast nowadays they have a five year memory, and that's it.

Part of the part of the reason why people were coming to ask you was because you lot. People didn't know that you coined auto tune, and everyone else kind of sounded like you, right, So I was sounding like, yeah, exactly, they thinking that you was a part of the bunch. So I was reading the comments. I literally posted it on mind. So I posted your clip on my and I read I've read all the comments and they're like, whoa they Most people were confused, because, yeah, you know what it is. I think that the fast nowadays they have a five year memory, and that's it.

I think that's what I'm telling you what it is. I'm telling you what it is. It's Money's money. It's a popularity contest.

I think that's what I'm telling you what it is. I'm telling you what it is. It's Money's money. It's a popularity contest.

I like money.

I like money.

P P and Coach from QC. P and Coach from QC came out and they said, every time you drop a single, you automatically have to spend two hundred grand for the radio radio promo to make it the most popular. If you don't do that, you're not cutting through the fog.

P P and Coach from QC. P and Coach from QC came out and they said, every time you drop a single, you automatically have to spend two hundred grand for the radio radio promo to make it the most popular. If you don't do that, you're not cutting through the fog.

Yeah, I agree with that.

Yeah, I agree with that.

So if you're not willing to do that, and you're like I'm doing right now, bro, I'm spending minimal money. I think on my new record, we probably had fifteen grand right now, just chilling in new record, just promoting it, promoting it. We probably we're probably at that And are you independent? I'm independent, okay? And we are number six that rhythmic.

So if you're not willing to do that, and you're like I'm doing right now, bro, I'm spending minimal money. I think on my new record, we probably had fifteen grand right now, just chilling in new record, just promoting it, promoting it. We probably we're probably at that And are you independent? I'm independent, okay? And we are number six that rhythmic.

Like we make some noise for that, right, you know what I'm saying.

Like we make some noise for that, right, you know what I'm saying.

That's just the funniest fucking sound. Had number six, So we had one of the number six, that rhythmic, and we chilling. Like when your record grows organically instead of uh, you know the quick two hundred grand and it goes up crazy. Uh, your scene is unpopular. I'm not gonna lie. I like that.

That's just the funniest fucking sound. Had number six, So we had one of the number six, that rhythmic, and we chilling. Like when your record grows organically instead of uh, you know the quick two hundred grand and it goes up crazy. Uh, your scene is unpopular. I'm not gonna lie. I like that.

I like the two hundred ground rock.

I like the two hundred ground rock.

I get it, I get it. But those are the records that last for two months.

I get it, I get it. But those are the records that last for two months.

You can't you can't name me a record from me and him is against each other on this.

You can't you can't name me a record from me and him is against each other on this.

You can't name you a record from two months ago.

You can't name you a record from two months ago.

I can't name you a record for yesterday.

I can't name you a record for yesterday.

When you're sick, grows organically and it lasts for ten fifteen years that when you can rag on ship, I'm still getting checks from fucking It's a different kind of fan base. It's a loyal one versus an unloyal one. Pop in here. It's the fan base, the loyal fan base against the people that just want to be seen as knowing what's the new ship? You know what I'm saying. Like, it's the people that want to be cool as kids and the people that want to be cool to their kids, which is.

When you're sick, grows organically and it lasts for ten fifteen years that when you can rag on ship, I'm still getting checks from fucking It's a different kind of fan base. It's a loyal one versus an unloyal one. Pop in here. It's the fan base, the loyal fan base against the people that just want to be seen as knowing what's the new ship? You know what I'm saying. Like, it's the people that want to be cool as kids and the people that want to be cool to their kids, which is.

Me and him.

Me and him.

Always have this discussion independent or major. I'm always on the major side. I practically hate everything about independent. Really, I made, I made, I made a little more, but I've worked a lot harder independent.

Always have this discussion independent or major. I'm always on the major side. I practically hate everything about independent. Really, I made, I made, I made a little more, but I've worked a lot harder independent.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When I would have a hip record on uh on deaf jam on a Tommy Boy on on a penalty, Yea, it was certain. Sean Pattons will call me, Mike will call me, sh Custer will call me and say, full the funk back, what's the record? Start working?

When I would have a hip record on uh on deaf jam on a Tommy Boy on on a penalty, Yea, it was certain. Sean Pattons will call me, Mike will call me, sh Custer will call me and say, full the funk back, what's the record? Start working?

Yeah, but you're talking about that's a difference.

Yeah, but you're talking about that's a difference.

Full flex no more like fall back, we got it, and then I swear to God they have me. So I want to big them up. But that's that was the time that we were living in Like yeah, so, but it was some two hundred grand though.

Full flex no more like fall back, we got it, and then I swear to God they have me. So I want to big them up. But that's that was the time that we were living in Like yeah, so, but it was some two hundred grand though.

That's what the grand was then too, So it just doesn't take that now, it doesn't take any of that. It's literally four buttons, and you gonna have a song out to them.

That's what the grand was then too, So it just doesn't take that now, it doesn't take any of that. It's literally four buttons, and you gonna have a song out to them.

Him is I'm not against the majors, but I'm saying be independent. So if you do upstream to a major, you take advantage of that system.

Him is I'm not against the majors, but I'm saying be independent. So if you do upstream to a major, you take advantage of that system.

I'm not against you walk away from the system to keep it. I'm not against the majors whatsoever, and.

I'm not against you walk away from the system to keep it. I'm not against the majors whatsoever, and.

Not not because he's here, But you know, that's that's what I gotta agree with what Rockefeller did, Rockefeller when they was using the major but still owning their masters.

Not not because he's here, But you know, that's that's what I gotta agree with what Rockefeller did, Rockefeller when they was using the major but still owning their masters.

That's the difference. That's what I'm talking.

That's the difference. That's what I'm talking.

That's what I'm into. I'm into that.

That's what I'm into. I'm into that.

That's what I'm saying. I'm not against the majors. You just gotta know the steps, right, you gotta know what's going on. You gotta know what's actually happening with your ship. And I mean I felt I fell victims to that multiple times. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. I know they pay for everything. I get to pay it back. I'm making millions ship.

That's what I'm saying. I'm not against the majors. You just gotta know the steps, right, you gotta know what's going on. You gotta know what's actually happening with your ship. And I mean I felt I fell victims to that multiple times. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. I know they pay for everything. I get to pay it back. I'm making millions ship.

It's the worst loan ever, long.

It's the worst loan ever, long.

Time that's happening downside. Oh my god, when you can't but this is the worst law. The difference between making fast food music and gourmet music is you can pay that back. With gourmet music. I can get three million dollars from Universal right now and pay it back in two years.

Time that's happening downside. Oh my god, when you can't but this is the worst law. The difference between making fast food music and gourmet music is you can pay that back. With gourmet music. I can get three million dollars from Universal right now and pay it back in two years.

Let's make some mois for that.

Let's make some mois for that.

Without releasing music. I'm still getting checks from fifteen years ago.

Without releasing music. I'm still getting checks from fifteen years ago.

Ship.

Ship.

But that's what I'm saying. But it's like catalog. But when you when you make fast food music and your ship goes away in too much, you can't. You can't get that advance back, you know what I'm saying. They're like this long as hot as fuck. Here's two million dollars. You made ninety thousand off of it. We're gonna need the rest of that very soon.

But that's what I'm saying. But it's like catalog. But when you when you make fast food music and your ship goes away in too much, you can't. You can't get that advance back, you know what I'm saying. They're like this long as hot as fuck. Here's two million dollars. You made ninety thousand off of it. We're gonna need the rest of that very soon.

He was on Atlantic right, I was.

He was on Atlantic right, I was.

I was on First of all, I was on Jive job. I was on Give right, Who's who, Who's very white? So I was on Jive and then Jive caved and turned into r c A. And they didn't tell anybody.

I was on First of all, I was on Jive job. I was on Give right, Who's who, Who's very white? So I was on Jive and then Jive caved and turned into r c A. And they didn't tell anybody.

Oh yeah, they did that to me. They didn't say welcome to the.

Oh yeah, they did that to me. They didn't say welcome to the.

I'm so crazy. So the crazy thing was the worst thing about that. That that uh that that that venture and that joint venture was r c A acquired four labels. They got which was they got They got all I know is they got Jive, but I think they got some of Epic, they got some of death Jam, they got like a lot of ship. So r c A acquired four labels worth of artists, but they only still had one label worth of employees. Wow. So if you had ten records to take the radio, if you got a Chris Brown joint place, you did your job for the day. They didn't give a fuck what didn't get placed. They go back to fucking Peter, and it was like, I did my job today. I got we got Chris Brown on the radio. It was about the other nine they wanted fucking with him. Okay, but you got one right cool there. It is so RCA really stopped giving a fuck about their artists that wasn't performing as well as the other artists. And I literally called Peter one day. Peter is the president of RCA, and I was like, hey, I understand what's going on. Please drop me, let me go, And he, right out of his mouth on the phone said, you think I'm gonna let somebody else get t pain? We're not even having this conversation. Boom hung up on me conversation. Yeah, you can't drop yourself. Yeah, please, I'm know you're not doing anything for me. I'm not I'm not bringing you any revenue. Because he's like, out of his mouth, he's like, urban music doesn't make us any money. And I was like, well, I'm doing urban music. I would gladly not be a Hindrance anymore. Just let me go. And he was like, you think I'm gonna let somebody else have t vain? Did he just say Hindrance?