Episode 335 w/ Shaquille O’Neal

Published Oct 7, 2022, 9:30 AM

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legend himself and Basketball Hall Of Fame Player, Shaquille O’Neal!Champion season is here! The 4x NBA Champ and most dominant big man the sport has seen - sits down with the Drink Champs for an episode you don’t want to miss!Shaq shares stories of Stevie Wonder, his NBA career, Kobe Bryant and much much more!Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise for Shaquille O’Neal!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆

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Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio and it's Drink chas Mother podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like, that's your boy in O R he's a Miami hip hop pioneer. Up his dj e f N. Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast. And yet number one sorts for drunk is New year' Z's time for Drink Champs. Drink Up the would goold be hopefully's super point in O R E one up his dj e FN and this Drink Champs. Y're make no now. Usually you know when we start the show and we do this show, we give like you know, uh intro introducing these people. But I'm just gonna just read off stats. Let's just start of stats. Four time NBA Champion, three times NBA Finals MVP, NBA Most Valuable Player two thousand, fifteen times NBA All Star, three times NBA All Star Game, MVP, All Star, NBA First Team All Star, NBA Second Team, All NBA Third Team, NBA All Defensive Second Team, NBA Rookie of the Year, NBA All Rookie first team, NBA Scoring Champion, two times IBM Award winner, NBA Anniversary Team. We're tired at thirty four and it just just keeps going. You forgot one and the only one to platinum and them only Yeah, hold on, I'm talking about we got to drink to it. So the best on record, don't work about what I'm drinking. The best basketball player rapper of all times. I need another drink all time. The only guys had that kind of flat black. We're doing a lot of talking with your drinks, talking about what second on that second sports co homes sports this act. I'm gonna drink some champagne because I'm come up because we we don't know, if you know, off our shows about our shows about giving people their flowers, and we wanted to start off this time bout giving you the flowers, even though they might have some greasy fingers because they eat my fo No forgot like ready me Google, you know I'm going to drink. Yeah, we go. You don't ask you what I'm drinking. It's that you own Papa John's. Papa John's. I don't own Papa Johns, but you have something I'm on the board. So when the Papa John's Hope fiasco went down racial they called me and I said, I would be involved if old boys not involved. So they made me the first African American member on the board. And you know, we put some females on the board and we're doing well. Now. You know the guy that's in charge of a guy by the name of Jeff Smithy. He brought me like, I wish you own own thing, but Jeff smith owns it. And I'm just the first and only African American member on the board of Puppa John. So you know we're doing big things now. First and only you start something coming stop something. Yes, I want to I want to face why do you Well, I don't want the thing off because because I heard you were supposed to get You're supposed to be about down with Starbucks at first. You know what happened was I could have been the first one to open up a Starbucks in the hood. So all right, that's the key word. So the owner of Starbucks, he he came and he said, Shack, I want to open up Starbucks in the hood. And I'm thinking about where I'm from. I'm like Jersey City, Jersey, right, I'm like they ain't gonna work, And yeah, I told him the first Yes. I was like, my man, that ain't gonna work because like I'm thinking hood, but I ain't know nothing about red Jennifer Jennifer, so I thought turned down that Magic Johnson didn't you know, made a lot of money. But you know, I was just trying to I was trying to stay stay true to my roots because nobody my family drank coffee. So I was like, I was like Howard Schultz, you know, I was a good friend of mine, the owner of Starbucks. I was like, I don't think it'll work. And my guy was kicking me under the table, like, you know, take the stop. But like it was gonna be Shaquillo Nettle Star, like take these toppers down. I was like, but that's that's why, that's why, that's why when we say educate yourself, it's not all about going to school. It's just like it's just like learning, like you gotta know what's going on in your neighborhood. I know I know what re gentrification is now in the North because I'm doing it. Me and my group, the Boat Group, were responsible for tearing down the projects and building condos and building. You know what you do with the people that are there. So we have you know, we're charged some people, but you know we let people, you know, do the section a thing. You know, we get people jobs, so you know we're beautifying you know, the city. I don't never never that alright, drinking that. So so I've seen you, I'm talking. Do you feel like you're the best basketball rapp up all times? Yes? I do too, not because of bars or whatever, it is, because of my discography big and yes I figured out that. So one. You know, we all come from the same place, like like basketball and music is right there. So for me, I'm not on the court. I'm lll co J. I went to the flea market and got to fake douk rop and mirror and then when I get to the court, I'm dr J. So when I first got drafted, I said, I want to do something different, like everybody buys a two thousand dollar suit and said and brag. But I said, I want to wrap in my favorite rep group, which Fushnickers at the time, Right, So I did it on our senior Whole show. Shout out to Fushnickers. I didn't I send you the Hall show my agent, coming X said he ain't gonna believe this. I said, well, he said, Jove offered you ten million for three albums, and I'm like that's I'm like, bro ten million. I never wanted to be a rapper and they wanted to do an album. You know, for me, just meeting you guys, it's a pleasure because even though I'm Shock, I'm still a kid. You remember when you first came out, was the first one to call you. You pay one game and I'm just sitting there watching it. And then at the end of the game, the alic just actually said something that he goes my name Shock, but only fan Corn be popular the old everyone just stopped. Just say you're so when you so, when you're Damien and little right, who was y'all dispute? He was saying that he was the best of what was. It wasn't a dispute. It was fun for me because I felt like a rapper. I was in the battle Dames. A Dame's a fine fellow, great rapper, great player. But you know how we are with our egos. You can't say you're the best when I'm around. You can't say you're Superman when I'm around, but there's nothing personal. Okay, you say you're the best. Watch this you drop on the drive to It was fun, you know. We we talked all the time. You know, we had a great time. And I wish real mcs could be like that, Like you gotta beef. We call and talk. Hey, my wife, out live my kids. I'll let me say whatever you want. Do you say and then we just go back and you're living the mic. So when I was becoming, when I got that album there, I was like, I don't want to be a rapper, but I want to wrap it all my favorite rapper artists. So it makes me the best. Like I said, it's my discography because it was Fush Niggins, Red Man, Eric Sherman, Fat Joe, Big Pun, Michael Jackson, Quincy j uh Nas, Lord Rick, Notorious, b I G jay Z, Ice Cube, Snoop Doggs, and a lot of underground reppers. The Guns, Cory Guns, Cannabis, that's your boy, Cannabis, your boy. It was what I'm drinking. It was, don't it was rumor that you had to that's a real one. It was had the first record with Nas, jay Z and Big Yes, like on the same record together. So why did that record didn't come out like that? Because when it came out was a jam big you know how it is. But people tell the people that don't know, naming the record is no love loss and it was you j Lord Torek and people people didn't clear. Look I didn't. I didn't take it personal because again me being in the studio or now, so I'm happy. I get to call my boy and be like, hey, come over and nos off. You know. I get to call my boy and said, hey, j in here. I get to call my boys, said you know, biggie at the house, but to jump on the sea, duce, guess what it's all about. And not to disrespect you guys. It wasn't enough money in that for me because I went platinum, right. I was like, oh, I went platinum and they showed me the check and I was like, it's some bullshit. I was like, and then I learned a valuable word, recoup, Like I had to go my thing. I was like, how you're gonna try to leave for studio and I got my own studio. This ain't right here. So I got a few hundred thousands back. But I was like, so I really focused on just just going in there and having a good time with my favorite artists. Was that ever like a sidetrack? Because you know around test is actually from Queen's Reason from Left franct Now to Await And I remember Ron being fully distracted because he was really focused on this album and we like people that's his friends have associated to him, was like, nah, bro, stay on the goddamn court. Did was that your mind? Like? No, No, I knew I had to impress both worlds. I don't think. I just called up red Man Eric Hermon said, won't be rapping like they they audition me freestyle. I had the freestyle. Okay, freestyle again, now that's written, that's written. You don't give you five minute like so I had to, like every every rapper of that show up, I had audition. I had to. I had to. I had to do my part first, and it first, and they're like, okay, cool. But I realized that in the studio together, right No, so yeah, yeah, So when when I finally got the word that biggest gonna do it, I did it first. I didn't like it. I did it because remember no, I ain't like it because member the studio in my house. So I wake up and no, because because my thing is this big coming in one. I gotta impressed big, because the big say no, this is terrible. I'm done. I won't get a second shot. So I did it. Letting my boys here. He ain't, Bob say it ain't good. Let my boy here. He ain't like it. Ain't gonna let my boy here. And they said that one tight. So okay, so big flut out of him in a little sea. So I'm nervous, and you know, we go in the studio him in the little seats. He said, play it. So I played it and he started doing this. Now I'm like so he like, okay, big dog, that's tight. That's tight. And then I said okay, he likes it. So I'm gonna let him, you know, him a little sea do that thing. So I said, here you go, big, no, no, no, yeah, Patton Penn said, he go hit the patting pen, hit this button right him and be in the house. He said, no, I'm ready right now. I said, what you mean, you're reather right now? And you start smiling. And he went in there and he killed it and the first verse, I'm the only one they got it. And I'll never play it. He went off, and I damn they had a tear of mind because I had to press that button. I was like big. He was like yeah, yeah, for the kids, for the kid my bad diesel and then he did the verse that you're and the thing. Yeah, I got it. I got it, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna play what's your favorite hip hop? Our row listening to this new music? He's got a drink, you gotta drink. I gotta watch y'all he drank and watcha yo, y'allmost got some weak drinking face. So are you listening to this new generation? I try not to be the ones that because the old guy that. But remember when we came up, well, when y'all came out, everybody was on y'all too. Yeah, So I just try to I just try to support the big guys, just you know, try to teach in business. It's different, Like I don't really buy it. But when you're in the club and they played you like like that uh f F nigro free song by the Girls, Yeah that should go hard. That should go hard, Yeah far that should Yeah. I was in the Groner that was that that should go hard. Yeah, yeah, so it go hard. So I try not, like you said, trying to be the old guy. But I like our ara. Like I actually like the area before us because because it showed a lot of Yeah, because I'm from Look, I'm from Jersey. So we started off with you know, Grandma to fly l L Run DMC. But then when I get down to Texas, you hear ghetto boys. And then when I go to l A, you hear Snoop and draining him. And then when I'm moving down south here jam and the press. So like music as a whole, but I like I like our area because because it was the hardest. It was all about It's all about lyrics, lyrics and style, and everybody had a different stuff every week and sounded like, yeah, everybody has a different style. So let me ask you. In basketball, have you ever seen somebody that said, man, if I would play against him, he like he would mind you? Are you anyway? You never got a drink because at one point, at one point, you might be mad at me for this. At one point I did see at the beginning, in the beginning of his career, I did see slight version of you in Dwight Howard. He was nice after you get you. Yeah, So when he first came out and thought he was I thought it was a little bit better, more and more athletic. Okay, I'm more hip hop and more street, but he was a little bit more. You could jump higher. So a lot of times when I criticize these guys, I'm really giving them the answers to the test, but they don't know it. Like I kept saying about the way all you gotta do is fifteen. But you know these youngsters that favorite thing to say. Yeah, you know, these youngsters, their favorite thing to say, Oh, you're hating but why, I'm like, yo, if you do what I tell you to do, you can be up there. But he never listened like I I when when people criticize me, I can stop time. Like I said, okay, is there any truth in that criticism? Like shot good out? You were thinking this way? Yes, because my father is a drill Santa, so I heard it all. Everybody thought this why you went to the General Assurance because the surgeon that's twenty who stole my cup when this guys get your boy said you can stop time at the top of time. So shock did album with Nori Nori killed shocking album stuff was that and got the j Yeah he killed me? Yeah, I can't say nothing, not mama, why like he killed me? Like they just say Shot can be the best guy in the world, but he's not a great fruit free throw shoot him. Can't be mad at that. That's facts, right, We want to free those right nowthew Now when we started this, when we started this, we thought to ourselves because it was this wasn't like when when when podcast first started, it was like for nerds. So when we started this, we was like, we want to be like Shaq, Kenny and Charles because sha Kenny and Charles is so respective. Is because you guys, was in the locker rooms. You got rings. Kenny Smith got rings he's from practice, and Charles he got something like rings. You know what I'm saying. But y'all keep it real because when y'all cultique another player, it comes from a level of love. How did that originally? Because was it was it Kenny um Charles? Was Kenny, Charles and the other guy at first and then you got added on? Correct, how did this? How did this? It was Kenny and Ernie first, then Charles got it on and I got at it all. Look, they already had a great show. So the first year I came there, I was trying to be on my professional Brian gumble. It was terrible. So the producer t K putman to the side and said, we didn't bring it here for that ship, and I want you to be shock. I was like, oh, you want me to be me? So you know, once one, once I started doing what I do, you know, the show became better. But but Ernie, Ernie is the guy. Ernie is a guy. But we do you guys respect the show because you know, Shaq was a bad motherfucker, Barcley was bad. Kenny got two rings, so we was a bad mother he two rings on. No, no, he's bad. But I ain't gonna drink that. So what you're smoking? A cigarette? Leste, I'm a road model. Worry, worry the worries out. So out of South of do it was a cigarette? Okay, I'm sorry, speak flipping around bousing. So we said about Papa Jars. Did we speak about five guys? Because we got five guys? Did you get that right? I used to own a whole bunch of five guy but I sold them, so Now I started a fast capsules called Big Chicken, Big Chicken, Big Chicken. So we started off in Vegas and we just sold two d fifty locations. So but no, no, you. So the reason why like stuff ain't updated because I don't want it to see him. I'm up here bragging all the time, so I don't like. You know, one time I I do this, I do this, and my mother didn't like that. So so a lot of times I don't really tell people what I'm doing, Like who owns Muhammad Ali? Who owns his daughter? Who owns Maryly Monroe? Who owns Forever twenty one? Okay, that's what you talking about? Who your own? I need to sneak. I don't like update because it ain't even about that for me. You know, it's about a young kid who didn't have anything and two people who weren't really that small, even I'm not saying they were in a smaller day. I have college degrees. It's you can be anything you want. And I was watching the program a matter of fact, was the point guards want to see point guys, and you talk about how all the old JS protected young Same for me when I was in the shoutout to Moustafa and why do and soultiing I want to hang out with the boys are like, man, take your streets over. There was a little older than me, so I didn't get to see the drug protect him, but I got to see the drug deal was personally protecting, like Kenny Aneson used to come outside and he used to send him upstairs like buying my you know what, I'm sitting them upstairs, like you cannot hang out. I had and I had two uncles that was cops. Uncle Drome and Uncle Mike didn't play the A so they let them know if I see you all around, Diesel, it's gonna be some trouble. Yeah. So it was, it was. It was all good, all off, and you were cop in Miami Dade County. Star was until you just blew my covers? How was? How was it? Because I remember, like us just betting on you, just breaking these rims, Like was there people that broke rims before you? Darryl Dalkins was the first one I saw. But this is why I started dunking, because you see how the big men played out shooting jump us moved that saw that like that one day in Texas and only lost one game in high school in two years. So one day I got I got thirty nine and three. I'm working on my crossover. I lay a dude up, finger roll and miss my father. This drill start you from walks on the court during the game, call the time out. I was like, man, call the time out, so till about go outside. What are you doing? I said, Man, I'm working on my doctor And before I can say dr J, he smacked the ship on me. Webb ain't no dr J b s. So from that point on, because I was mad at him, every time I dunk, I tried to tear the room down. But what I know is when I started dunking and kicking my legs and everybody else would be scared, He's like, see, motherfucker, that's what I'm talking to myself. That's when I saw. When I started dunking like that, channeled that channel. Yeah, I mean, because you know this thing was played big, play strong, because like I'm I wanted to be the next Matchic Johnson. It's like handles crossover, not trying to get my yeah. So I man, I was playing like that. But once he uh, once he told me how the channel and injury. Then you know, it became something different because back then there was that was the thing they should say. Big men don't have a handle, you know what I mean. So and So, you know, I think, yeah, you were like one of those. I was the first go close to Soho. This is one of the one of the wonderful stories I've ever heard on the internet. Oh you just got so sentimental, Stevie wonder. Yeah, I want to hear the story because we left in the same building. Describe this story's parking front. You can parking front or you can parking about him. I'm already in about elevator, she said. Stevie's called I didn't see that, but he got but he got on the elevator door and I'm standing in the corner. I see him. I don't want to He's like, what up, Diesel, you get this button? Then he got the floor and I'm like, you know, he came in. You know, the first he came in, he looked, he was up and yeah you did like this, and you know, I'm just in the corners. You're like, what up, Diesel. It was like, I didn't say that, and they gave me the same reaction to yall get you. That's a good y. That's one of my favorite twitters, like, well he pressed the bat because there's brail on the buttons. That that was someone on Twitter was saying, and we don't even know. We wouldn't know me. Yeah, we wouldn't know, right, I let you know Shock that I believe Shock believe. I'm trying to make sense of it. I'm Stevie a little so I'll be spreading the room out right. Let your listening. He was driving. Someone say I might have said, I might have said, I might have fabricated the shack story. I said, Shock seemed driving, and I might have made him the driving part. But the story is still the same. Stevie wonder to see a little bit so five guys and used to only to be taking the five guys burger off, and then we messed up because we told him. And it's how you know, if you got boones on working and I ain't gonna low the pop eye Buscus, did you have to pop out sandwich when everyone's going on because they had cocaine in it? You know that? Right? Alleg you just drink you that you know, I don't give you drink you that all allegedly, So how my eyes look look like I've been dragging? Do you miss about basketball or do you miss you don't miss no, because growing up, I watched all the karate movie you know how the karate movie starting. I did that. One time I got in trouble. I did. So I'm gonna answer your question and let me get into the stuff. So you don't remember remember growing up, like when when you first watched karate movies. The Karate Master so crazy nobody and get to him. That's how it was for me. Like I used to love you and and now I get to face them. I used to love Jordan. Now I used to get to face him. I gotta try to beat him. I gotta try to beat Buklet. So for me, it was about beating these legends. I don't already see nobody that that's gonna that's gonna make me, you know, get crazy. Now back to the story. So when y'all mingles, because you know me, I don't really pay attention to nobody because I know what I'm gonna do to you, right, So I don't really pay attention. So it's like this dude was coming. So I got on TV and I was like, y'all mainging you want to battle the great check food? Well, I will see you Sunday. Yeah yeah, I said, listen, I don't care what y'all saying. Well, I grow back. I had to bring a movie in the show. But no, no, no, no, no, he didn't. But I said, no, no, no no, every Saturday, every Saturday from eight to twelve, I'll be up watching Noria. It's like I'm strategy strategy. I had to bring like a tape and be like, so it was, but I said, okay, I won't. I wanted to do it again. And you don't miss basketball now, you don't cut it on because you don't the games. It's like you watched, we watched the game. You can take the game. Do you miss TJ? And let me ask you that I do you do the era that from It is not the same right now. It's not because he like cut from the creep digging area, So you ain't carrying no crez sat. I used to in college. In college, so so with the DJ thing like when you don't do something, people think you can't do it. So I started then my first I had two s P twelve and the gym and I mixer. I started with that, I started start with I started B Street was my first album, rough like going back and forth and scratch the one is a fresh Like you know, I started doing all that, then I got away from it with a when I started rapping. But then I was dating this girl. She took me to the E d M concert. It was a half a million people out there jamming. So I'm like, man, this is nice. But then I'm reading the article one day. Then DJ make fifty million dollars, I'm tapping into some of that. So so when I first came in, they put me in the celebrity DJ think like cool, Like they didn't know what I could do, Like they didn't know it's a real DJ. So that the whole year I was doing BS clubs and b as Pool party. But now I'm doing people. I'm doing like a hundred fifty stadium practice. Before you started going for those d M parties, Well that's easy because you're just you know, putting yourself together. But like you know, when we DJ, like we djay, but you gotta still read the crap. You gotta read the crap. So you know, like a lot of these guys already had their sets in, so like I'm coming in and be like, I'm gonna start with this, the start with this. Yeah, but you ain't got that. You only gonna do like Thedium show like straight they all they don't really kid, I did the show, lallapoosa, I gets to do with DJA when I do dum and say, y'all don't like the stuff that I But what makes my thing special because I put a lot of hip hop in that hip hop England, so dove step is similar to hip hop and in the sense and in the since that the BPM was the same sevent five eight ninety, so I do a lot of like popular hip hop song like like I got to stop them open shot like the DM everybody know that. And then I did hard Harbason you know my boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna try to kill, We're gonna try to give. So look, we got a game to be played on on this all the time, go a quick time and fly right. Usually play with a drinking game. But what we could do is we could have Sunny d who we call your little we call baby Shot. We call them baby shot, Baby Shot. Tell us look like shocks you'll take a shot you, so we'll take these shots. Well, he'll take a shot for you. You mean he's drinking. He's drinking that good? Alright, you want to go? That's fine water Oh speaks for this one Japan. I'm big and const combos. Yeah, you don't fall for that though, like get off the poppy. No mind s no mon s mind yes made no no no no brom Okay, drink, get myself, can put my drink up there? Your drink yall want you don't want to know what I've been drinking. Yeah, we do this and that's what's up. We're gonna support that. I'm right the girl? How did me walking head with so Fiji? What is my fam? What's my father? What's his name? Who wrestle with the dreg He got a new name, Draymond Brown, Draymond remember if you if you ask them both be politically correct. Then he drinks for you, So he drinks for you. So you ain't to drink, but we drink. We're gonna leave him out. K Yeah, Tupac or DMX old do you have a Tupac story? No? I don't have a two. I will seeing him all the time and I saw him one time in my Jersey, but he had a lot of people around him. He just gave me the I Love two Park when he first came out on the grounds. After that his album, Yeah, just yeah, that that album. And I will see him and our thing is hip hop and the athletes. We all have respect for each other because we're all going through the same thing. So I will see him a lot. And he just gave me the same with Nipsey, like I never went. I wish I could just shake his hands Here's but they would always just give me an I would, you know, always give them that. So so I like him. However, DMX was very nice to me. One time I threw a party for DMX and then is poorly promoted. It was thirty people there. That man performed for an hour. The man performed for an hour for me. So you gave it. Might be shocked because every time both drink your drink because you know what shot too, because I experienced this with you as well. Um, because sometimes we be giving people. Cut the record of the shot last year. Hold I think the big glass, hold on, hold on, hold on. Shout out to my boy in my Tumbo No No, No, no, no, no, no, drink, hold on, hold on hey, and after you leave, if I see you driving, I'm gonna put them things I did the first the first year I met shots, which you'll usual to do. And I don't know if you did it on purpose or you know he was doing music. Do you just go just grab your whole head? You just like to me, a couple does. That's because because I love you, yeah, I and you helped me become me. That's I don't know, real talk. Music calmed me down and gets me hype. That's living in the l A death row had me on fire going to the game, you know, snooping and they just because because they was hard and I had to be hard. So music I just love, like like again I do, but I'm not a crip to California. Yeah, I'm not gonna do so. But okay, I love you guys. I appreciate you guys. And you know the problem with some of us is when we get to a level we don't still show love. I'm always show love to you guys. So I'm like, I don't look like I forgot what Rabbit said it, But everybody be every like there's a whole bunch of money right here. I'm gonna get mine, but I want you to get your like it was. If this room is money, I don't want it all. I want Draymond Brown to get something. You know. I just hey, so everybody, so so. The reason why I grab you and bring your head to my heart because you're close to my heart. I love you and I've always loved you, you thin scar face ice Cube, both because you know, because you know why. I'm gonna tell you what a lot of times when clips get put out right depends on how they cut them. And I know both the gentleman's I never wanted to see. Like I'm being respectful. I know him both. It's actually really hard pick Like I've been knowing Brand for a long time. When I first met Brand Houston, he took me around. I Q has been nothing but nice to me. So I don't want to go him. And then you guys, not you guys, but your editors put it out like shot chooses like we don't have, we don't do like, babe, don't drink. I don't know what you're doing. Hold on, let me say you let me do bigots shot, no bullshit shot. This is the shot. This is that deadly. You understand this is but you need to drink. You used to drink. I do drink, do drink, but not in public because I can't do nothing to jeopardize my mother's empire. So I'm not gonna sit here and say I don't drink. Me and my father used to drink after all the championship games you can put put on. So if I'm at the house or drink, but I'm not gonna drink at a restaurant. Didn't jump in the car and then, because you know, my father always used to tell me, if you mess the money up, your mom ain't gonna have a house. If you mess the money or your mom ain't gonna eat. You're the one God has chosen you to get this family out of brick City. So if you mess up, so I don't I drink at the crib, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna drink on the show. I'm gonna drink on the show. But it's that what do you say? It's beanished slow? This is a would you have to get into owning like a company, because I'm on it right now. I don't want to talk a better moment to Killer Company that man, Okay, I want to be avery like yo, man, I got Let's go to the next one. All right, are you ready? Okay? I got this one in wait O wood Chang Clan. Okay, I got this because I got the trade o. Do you be your bisin Markey? Hold On listen was my joint hold on because I hear they're feeling nas and I'm feeling the documentary about business Markey. I was on the phone him for half an hour yesterday. He didn't even bring it up. I was so bissed up. Little bits. Markey is one of my favorite I got. I got of me. I wanted to play business Mark when I first like Lost Weight and they was saying that they was doing the juice cool thing. I came to audition and I told him I would gain the way back just to just to be bish. I love this And he was to me business, the first person to bring comedy, interact and business, the first person that made me laugh and and and party. And he was talented too, and he thoted, oh Penny Hardaway, well, Kyrie Irvan Penny Hardaway and stop it, stop it, no explanation. Stop wants my face is. I think he's feeling that I'm about ready. Yeah you go. You had this one red Man and methem Man Red Man Breake City. But I'm gonna say both because because you know, I did an album with what was that at my Dad? No hooks? And methem Man is always again I'm the shack. But you guys have been my favorite rabbits. So when I call the answer, we break bread. I'm gonna do both. The red Man is from my hood. He's family. Yeah, brick head, what was that sunny? That's diesel side A little ready, I'll be ready, Okay. Put your boy Michael Clark Duncan looking up up, thank you, okay, because I ain't trying to get your locker d everyone live New Jersey Drive or Juice New Jersey Drive. Juice was cold on Queen the Teeth or empty like Queen from the City. I just want this one. I don't know we're gonna go with this one. It's one might be a little different, Big Daddy Kane, I can go big both both because drink say that again. I like that right now? Do you should bottle? It looks like liquor bottle when it's do a commercial and quick. I'm looking at the cameras, say, Mama said to high Drink and then you do with your Spanish voice. Mama, that's what I'm saying. Mama, you have run with a commercial. Right there we go, Mama saved the high drinkcho you know, get your fill from the press. Priss. You're all crazy, Okay, okay, okay, I said you're texting joke. You're just gonna be the best show you ever yo. Man, oh man, are you ready to trying to switch Ja Carros Ja carross one? Both? Oh cool, Yeah, that's what you get the shot from me? Thank you? Both happened to the girls. Man, we don't have to tell us that we have this boy. We need you the girls and drakes. Hollo. You got the next one you like to do from breaking it too? Yeah? Next one? You want me to get that? You have to wrap City? Huh you're on TV wraps to wrapp City on the base the base game. Okay, take the next one. And I was on the basement by the way be Street and Crush Group. I was actually in B Street. I'm gonna show you to clip. Okay, I know you're believe I know he wasn't you got it, Alonzo Morning or Dwhite Howard Alonzo all right, Mr Prince, he was taking jet at at one point, right cool you No, never never to throw it out there. She actually she actually when when I was with my girlfriend actually got in trouble. I was with my girlfriend. She had a show in Orlando, and she called me on stage. We've seen the clip recently, was like, yeah, yeah, I got she was grinding on Penny from Good Times. You say, like that, get back. M J showed up at my house and tried to buy my house and Orlando just he just showed up at the door to wait, you real estate, No, just banging some dudes. Hey man, Michael on you So I just big seventy grand us and I had a bed that fits fifty people. You're looking around. He's like, I want to buy the house. It was like, it's not for sale. And then I went to his house. This dude had a real zoo at his house, like animals, a real Sperris wheel and that and everything. So I'm gonna go with both on that one. Wait, but he said you had a bed to people. Yeah, yeah, Well I didn't know how. I don't even know how to answer that means, oh, I still have left. Still still got the bed. Okay, he said, still got the bed? All right, Sonny, don't be so excited. Listen some base in your boys. I'm so sorry. Sorry, I'm just because it's Jersey both ways. Lorda's underground and naughty by nature nature trash. You took it back? Trench is one of the chief rocket yeah, man, yeah, both both. I'm sorry, tigr shout so you too, you too my back? Yeah? The name of it again. Uh, it does sound like someone want to drink. But good, all right, come on, I'm going back to that good you drank it? How does it repleash itself? I just keep thinking this. Mm hmm okay, pat Riley or Phil Jackson, Phil Jackson, no explanation needed. Well, I won three with with with Phil m C or d J. You skip skip, that's excess for your ahead, so's to do it. He's going down. Really, Yeah, I didn't think that. I taught you to show. I'm gonna take a shot for just thinking wrong. Crowd with you, because you know it's only so people asking why d J. It's the only thing that reminds me of a game seven. Yeah, that's that's a drug energy. You know what's crazy when people ask me about this. This is the only thing that when when we drop an episode, is the only thing that reminds me of going platform. It's the only thing drink to that ain't much. I don't know. I got one black, I was black. I got four gold outs. Yes, I do. I've I was the first one to recognize. I never know that. I just called it wasn't you went playing, No, No, it wasn't off. It took a while. Platinuma absolutely Miami or l A Miami. Yeah, okay, yeah, Jack City, you're king of New York, New Jack City, Nino Brown. Yeah, get the next one, the source of double X of source, because they gave me three and a half mics. I thought it was this ship it was it was the sources out now the game. I'm gonna get five mix Gamel. I'm crazy. I only heard the one. He shoted me out and said, drink Champs through. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, and hold on, y'all need to start showing push your tee a little bit more respect to the world. Push your t crazy boy Michael Jordan's or Lebron James, Michael Jordan's Kobe Bryant or Dwayne Wade Kobe Bryant, you don't get your John Muran looking to ask about it? Come on going to Peter Guns. Peter Guns. Loyalty. This is the last one. Everyone thinks because I got a pitch drinking all this because I got a pitch drinking all this. Okay, everyone said, true question is really not loyalty or respect loyalty because when you're boys, you don't have to respect each other's decision. Like my best friend told me, don't bring the water because you'll had the water like they ain't got the water. Yeah, so you know I kind of so I kind of disrespect to him, but not not believing them. But I'm always be loyal to them no matter what. You know, we're arguing, fight all the time, but the loyalty is always are great taking this wait, were you coming back? Comes? I'm taking this shout to that for let just right in this cup. Yes, I don't stop, so shack. Who is who is more competitive in your opinion? You want me drink, I'll drink for no reason? Who is more competitive in your nation? I mean, well, Kobe or or Jordan? Because I don't you you see Jordan's and you can see the competitor. But Kobe was a different animal. Like I used to see Kobe dribble and shoot without no ball for hour or like shadow boxing, and then go out then do the same move you Kobe. Kobe had similar attitudes, like Kobe wanted to be the best ever. I wanted to just be the best at killing you because I was never the guy that's oh he's the best, big man. I wanted to be the most dominant band when when I walk in, I want people to change the rules. People scared, people going like this. I mean, but Kobe is like, I want to be the best ever, and like he is to practice four or five hours to day. I'm not doing that because my attitude was, what why am I practicing four or five hours for you? Who are you? I already know what I gotta do. Just bought my mama a new house and she got to keep it, and you ain't gonna take that away from me. So you know, there's a lot of oh, shot, I didn't work out hard enough, and now I know what I gotta do. It's all right there, Yeah, it's all right there. Because um, like they say, like like like like like Kobe was like it was just all about the win for Kobe. Like but when you look at Jordan's story and they say that it's all about that. But then the one critique that everyone says about Lebron James and they always say that he didn't have the killer any sting. So I have a question for the panel. Yes, when when he needs he needs average sixteen points this year to pass up Koree Do? Yeah, so if he passed up the great Korean Do with your barring points, does that make him the best player ever? No? All right, so long? Okay, no you say no? So if somebody is better than me and I passed them up, are they really better than me? Just asking? And I love these conversations. I like you know, actually, I think different people have different answers depend people. Okay, because how can you how can you say you got the dopeest yacht when he pulled up in a yacht two hundred more feet than you. He's sure, y'all? Really do? I know you've got a helicopter pad and all that, but this ship four floors don't get better? You're sure about that? I'm I'm just asking because you know, if you don't have killer interesting, how you get thirty eight points? Yeah, I'm just asking, just asking. So I mean, I'm I can't wait to hear all the experts and you know what they said, Jordan's the best ever to me, it happens like that to me. To me, Dr j is the best severer, the best ever because he started and then you know Comcaine Magic and then Mike. So I think when we have these conversations, we need to go by Eras. But it got a different best ever to to me, Lebron, I mean, excuse me. To me, the reason why Jordan is the best ever is because he won. He never really lost on the final six. But the reason why the truth. For me, I like people who go through adversity, and I think Lebron is the best st ever because I really believe that stuff that Lebron does Jordan cannot physically do. There's two different Like let's go listen, I got don't enjoy this name. I don't enjoy this now I'm gonna winever. I'm pot team Jim Jake. But what I'm saying is Lebron like for me. For me, for me, I love the the you know the assist game, the rebound game, the scoring points. He you know, he doesn't mind letting someone else someone else's assists, whatever the case may be. And that's what I like about this conversation because they can go all day to make different points. Because if Lebron was about points, because I'm gonna tell you something that Lebron has always been. Joe answered my question. But when that man passed up Kareem is here the best ever? Yeah, yeah, listen, I ain't gonna lie to you. I love Lebron. Like me personally, I think Lebron is our version of Jordan's he is because I think I think this year, this is my first time like being disappointed but then not making the playoffs because I just want people to know. And I always said this, you go on my Instagram, I always said I'm a New York Laker fan. I always by the way, by the way, I get killed for it, by the way I get I got killed for moving for you for years Jersey on Jersey, that like New York, New York. So I'm like, I just I just love Showtime from Showtime to y'all ship. I was just like I just couldn't I couldn't stop working with the Lakers. Now, did I adapt the l a lifestyle? I didn't do all that, but I was and I had never seen that, Like when you and Kobe had that run, Like yeah, it was like, I'm president, how do you say president? Unpresident? Who's the mother? Who's the most dominant big man? Oh, the most dominant big man? Everybody I know? Person? I know? Who else? Bill Russell? And who else? My mountain? Will and Will? I mean, so you know when people say those three names, I don't mind. But if I would have passed up Will Chamberlain and points, I came up and said, nope, me, yeah, only because I passed him up in points at me and I don't want to hear nobody else's name. But he got more points. So you know when you say that, what I'm saying, I want to just tell people standards. But everybody looking standard is the standard. Everybody looking standard, everybody looking at the rings, I mean points for this and that. That's the only thing that everybody could agree on. That's what I'm saying. So but but but I'm just be let me just be honest, to be clear, It's like we have the same conversation in hip hop and a lot of people you know, always give it to like a Drake or some such. But people always say, whoever got the most money is the goal? Yeah, but him, that's him. But but if you got the accolades, think that makes sense. Oh hold on, let me finish the accolades. That matches the money. That's why there's no one that could definitively say jay Z is not to go. It's because one, he has all the accolades to prove it. And then too, he has all the other accolades to prove it. He has the big house he has to be. How can you not say he's to go? You know what I'm saying? How can you not like what his wife is? You know what I mean? And I hate saying that. I hate saying his wife because to me, it takes away we actually is like he was that guy. She deserves her own. But because you because drink again. And that's why hip hop and basketball is like you can have this conversations. What's your best who who the artist? Who you know? Soon? What was what? What was your relationship? He was a dog? He was He's probably one of the only guys I couldn't punk like about blocking shot, Like most guys blocked this shot, they won't come back in, and he come in every time. And he Actually I'm upset at him because he messed up history. Because the year that we were fourteen and one, I wanted to go six I was so mad upset. I wanted to go sixteen because there was some other stuff going on with somebody's and I was like, Okay, I'm about to show y'all that I slash we the best Laker team ever because I get tired of here and that was like a team was better. So something about to prove it. Deal, And like if we would have went sixteen, and I can both, we can boastly say okay, Magic and Korean ain't going sixteen, and oh you know what I'm saying like that, So we underestimated in that first game and I think he hit us for fifty one. Yeah for fifty one, the one where he stepped over Derek he get hit. Yeah, I mean, but you know we're still win fifteen one. But I wanted to go sixteen and oh and that I was he was up and held still come back in. Yeah, we're still only little man, only little Jordan was like that too, So Jordan's so I've only I can probably say I only been dunked on three times in twenty years and times. Jordan's Derek Coleman, the dude named Tim Perry, and I got a lot of dunk buys. But I'm talking chest to chest, yeah, like what you want like that. I don't love that posted but he got me three times. So so next time he came through, I had to lay him out. But when I laid him out, I laid him out. I went to help him up. He said, don't ever help nobody up. That's what he said, because you know he's also my fraternity brother shout out to Megan's fight down. So I laid him minds. I'm like, you're not done. Coming again. He was like I need and I said, my my bad dog. He was like, I don't never help nobody up. So like he taught me a lot. And then so we beat them, and then next year they came back and swept us, and he put his hand on my shoulder and said, before he succeeds, you must first learn to fail. And I didn't know what that mean, and I was like, so I'm all summer, me and Alex riding around. I'm pissed. I'm like, and then I finally sat down to that before you succeeded, you must first learned to fail. And I thought about it. I was like, yeah, and you know we had to fail a few more times and said, you know, for us, when we get tired of failing, that's when we persevere, you know, do something else. But why do you think he told you not to? Because he knew I was a bad guy because I was the last one to beat him. And I know people gonna say, well, he you know, he wasn't ready when he came back in forty five. But it's only one guy that sent him home in the playoffs, that's me. So but like he he knew that, he knew I was coming, and he said, but you know, the things I was gonna do is the things he went through playing Detroit and you know, all the grades to go through it. And I was ready, but I wasn't ready because here we made to the finals, like you know, we we we played Houston and I kind of let down and the King was my it was one of my favorite guys. And you know you're supposed to show a person that you're competing against, you show him respect by showing him none, showing him none. But I showed him, but I showed him too much, respecting you every thirty one, every but they swept us in. But it also told me vibo lesson, if I ever get back to the finals again, I'm gonna put on a performances so crazy that it's gonna guarantee us someone. Okay, So God comes to you, it says you got one last game to play, and it's even with Kobe, Lebron or Jordan's because when you have when you have friends and you have discrepancies but they are not really discrepancies, should always reach out to that friend. I work, I work twenty one hours a day, and I was always the guy like me and you've been boys how long? How many times have a call you be honest? None? None? My point that ain't right. At least a text shout out d M something and I've and it hit me hard as that year because before Kobe passed away, my sister passed away, and I was always the I'll call you tomorrow, and to go by this business, I'll call you tomorrow. I'll call you tomorrow. I call you tomorrow and then you wake up and they're not They're not here. So that and so if I could just see him one last time and we just argue bit play, I would love to have that. So so to all the people out there, if you had, you know, discrivity with somebody, but you still love me about rich Out, you ain't. You gotta see him, We gotta hug him and kids. But just in the text, what's happening, because what was thesty problem? There wasn't a problem all what you what started it? Like, yeah, just you know, you've got two guys on the same team, so it's not a problem. Like some of my favorite stories, know, some of my favorite stories to watch, or you didn't know that the Brady Bunch had beef stories like that, like yeah, getting along. Yeah, But but the moral of stories, if you've got to alpha males, you're always gonna bump heads. Like me and my boy we're bump heads all the time. We've been from for twenty years. But the respect is still there, you know. But and so that was the beginning of the the Internet and all that stuff. So if I say something and he says something that everybody who they don't like Yeah, but no, I was in charge, right, Yeah, there's a little clicking on the team. I had my little click on my team. But the respect was always been, wait, we ain't gotta get along. He wanted to shoot. I'm saying, now that's been about you. No, I want to shoot. And you know we had our little spouts, but that's been going on since the Little League. But I always tell people the story you're talking about would be better if we have no championships. Bro. We got, bro we got we got three in a row. And I want you to look at this clip after the show first championship we went, I put my hands up. It's thirty thousand. Motherfucker's on the floor. Who the first dude to jump in my arms? Thirty thousand? But we got beef. I ain't got beef. We got we got disagreements. You know, It's like if I've seen him with his family, ain't gonna trip a drink over? Hello, Mr Vanessa high babyasics uncle shot like this, But you argue. I got a little brother. We argue. We fight. You know, I got my favorite uncle Drone. We argue, we fight. But the respect was always a respect. And then when I got traded, that was a business thing. You know, you keep the old guy and you're paying money, or you start all over with the new guy. And I understood it was business, so you know, I wasn't really tripping. So a lot of people think we have problems. We didn't. And then again, I'm the type of work. If I work, I got to go home with the family. I ain't got time to call you anyway. But I shouldn't be like that. I should be like at least hey b Shaw, Hey, Robert Lory, Hey Rick Fox. But I got working. And you know when when when your friends are gone, take yeah, take for granted, Yeah, because they don't do like the unions, like high school unions. They don't do unions for championship teams. How about like when people getting inducted in the Hall of Fame. Dude, like did they invite your old teammates? You can't be one too. So so for me, it was my family, my boys, my mom, the first guy that that gave me a chance. When I was in Germany, So you know, d Brown want to say, yeah, I was in Germany because I left North Yeah, we left, we left. No, I was in place called hand Olaze to take a trick for that man, Man, what's going on when when Kobe won the fifth but he said it that's gonna matter because this could look it's and and you know what made us great. It's a competition thing. I'm looking at the stat mother fun got thirty and I only got nineteen. That but but if you got two of the best guys in the league competing with each other on the same thing, nobody can stop us. And when we got to the finals, that's exactly what happened. So my thing was, if I don't get fifteen, I'm not representing dominant big man. And you know, I like to tell you if I come home and got fifteen more, I'm telling my house up, tearing my house up, because now I gotta read noory my boys says shock that ship, don't telling like like you know, like because because like when you got people that love you and they keep it real, they say hurtful ship. That's the truth for us. Yeah, I'm like Mann Man shack shock losing it man shot gets over twenty. But now you haven't feel like if I heard Nor said, I gotta hurt me. But I'm not gonna say but I heard I'm just gonna come out and ball players Z Thursday. I up about it, lucky, Like, yo, we get me telling things we were um we I can't say we react, but I'm with Jay and the whole going to State Warriors come through and so I'm looking and they all kind of like walked past me. But then they like, we think that was Nori with Jay. So they all kind of like turned back around. And when they turned back around, Jay is giving all of them their stats. He's like, yo, bro, on Thursday night, you should have passed the ball. And they're all like, oh, they're all being ready, they face and moving and then the next one comes Yallow, Steve Curtis Jallow Steve. He's like, he's like, listen, let me just say something. You know, I funk with you and Steve cars he see Carol my bad. He's sitting there so red in his face when Jay goes because when Jordan's said, are you gonna be ready when I see you to the ball, and He's like he's sitting there, his face is so red because he's like, how the fund does Jay Z remember when he's not talking about him, Oh, he said, my head is playing and I'm sitting there like, oh, shut up a cock. He used to play with you on it and it's crazy like so so yeah, people really be knowing that the stats no drop with Hey, don't don't try to dance Shack trying to dance to Shack like pall glaring with me. It's pretty got bad. I'm a great story. But where his story was that? Baby Shack? You don't. God, I love sad know you you tell one hundred percent? No, I kid you not. He looked at all the Golden State boards. They all came through. He told him what each one of them on what he did, And I'm like, how the funk you see in the game we were right here, you were here together. He wants to give you that. You want to mabe yourself. I'm telling you hear yourself. Yeah, but you're kiddies used to be neighbors and Beverly Shop. Yes, you're a KIDDI used to hate kid come to high school that because all you New York guys ranked you ahead of man And I don't know why we were nice and I was you got a point of need be yeah, no, like I'll be y'all average go to be like number three number that Conrad mccraig. Yeah, like, damn New York kids. I always ring that a minute. Critics don't know what they agree. It could beca the competition of the teage up to the too. Yeah you're sure you didn't lose the kidness? I think you did? Yeah yeah, and then left shout out the left. Kenny Smith on the show, it's kind of man, I bully everybody like crazy things like when Charles give me mad like mom, y'all think I'll be playing for my boys, like com back now? Then motherfucker's said one more bames here. He was like shock, laugh because when you be talking to bothering chars about the ring, I think he's not finding it funny anymore. So again, people believe in stats, right and championships. So when I say it's about the ring, my question is how do you know? And that's what like you know people have have you know, problems to him? Yeah he was a great player, but how do you know if you never went to that level, like like for example, we could tell you how to go platinum, because if you ain't never went platinum, how are you gonna tike me how to go experience. We can tell you how to rock a crowd. You ain't never rock a crowd. How are you gonna tell if I also heard you say one of the craziest, beautifuldest things. You're saying that you wasn't the white man for your wife at that time. And I've never heard of a man admit that a man's job is to protect provided left right. But when and then, like what I'm about to say now is excuse? How don't make excuses? But you know, when you have a lot going on, it's difficult, and I didn't do what I was supposed to do, But I still love us to care for us, to protect her. She's married now and she's no. Yeah you mean because like when you say I do, it's really to make them happy. And she's happy now, so that that's all that matters to me. Really is a beautiful that's beautiful man. And you're a great father man. Let's talk about that for a second. Man. And you told your kids one of the beautifulest statements. Off with her, like you said, we're not rich, I'm rich list shock you want we want to go back to college? Hold on, I got I got someone on the line. Real. I wanted to bring on food, poosh the kids a big dog. Bro. I love you, I love your brother. Know they give me my they give me my flies. I want to give you your flies because you don't want that got me started in next. I appreciate your brother much respect, I love you. How you doing doing? Uh, let's dude, listen. I used to spit the bar. You like, No, we'll go back in. No, go back in and say he said, Yo, man, you want to respect, you gotta do it right like it later that you favor, appreciate your just Hey, did do right here? Drunk and baby shot? Baby shot? Let me say so to him, reach out to you, okay, right, all right, cool? No, I just got one thing to say to you. The last move we bro, tell me we got that. So like when I hear when I when I hear one of my friends, I said, I got shot on he said, yea. I was with Nicholas one day from far and rocking and he brought him to T and T. Nicholas asked him some NYC questions. He made a call Nicholas with me and with Case laid that same week World is bomb And there's so many stories like that if you like walking in malls and you're going to basketball camps. I remember, Kenny, I think it's Kenney Smith basketball camp or something. You win and just bought all the kids sneakers and showed up. How do you develop that attitude? And why do you do that? Everybody eats? If I see a hispanic rapper, I want to get into business, somebody call you too, and we give him because because they whoever they are, they stick together. No just they you know, just just figure out they stick together. So if I could help somebody out, I can, And like if I could, you know, and like I always buy kids who like you don't have to be my shoes? What you want, wasn't Jordan, wasn't They don't take money from stage because because that's the thing, Like, I don't want kids because I that's what those people do. You know, that's the part of the police I work. I work, and then their crimes against children. So I always tell kids, they don't let people just coming off with your money and offers a good police office. They're all good police officers, stop it, most of them. Okay, okay, but but but but on on. So my thing is because I'm trying to bring police in the community back. I always tell people, so let's not let's not get sidetrack, because if one rapper does something crazy, they look at that one basketball player done something crazy. So you know, I think, you know, the individuals that do break the law should be handled. But you know, like I deal with a lot of shares and a lot of teach I mean a lot of shares and a lot of chiefs. They really do teacher anything. But every now and then you get somebody that gets outlined. So the ones that get out lined, thin blue line thing, that's the problem. The good ones won't do anything. So so so, um, tomorrow we're supposed to this week's supposed to have Derek Jetas. So I went and I looked at that with Getus documentary. And one thing about their genius documentary was that was unanimous. Was it pointed out the fact that the racio, the racial you know, the racial issues that he was addressing. And then it made me think about like, you know Jordan, and and like Jordan's never really addressing the racial issues until George Floyd, and then you know, everyone actually who we actually wanted to say things back in the days actually stepped up from der to Jordan's I'm more of a I'm more of a do than say yeah, like like something yeah. I like the action. If something goes down, I have the power of the ability to go to the police station and be like, what was that about? What is this about? So you know, like, uh, you know. My thing is if you haven't been doing it, don't start grabbing your phone and doing it now if you don't mean it. So like I'm I'm more of a door. I don't. I don't call and say, hey man, somebody need to go buy those kids towards. I go do it myself. I don't call them people say hey man, somebody need to go into that hood and tell them boys and shooting. I go by myself, like y'all need to cut that out. They're watching y'all. Y'all over here tripping and what are y'all doing? Dude? You know I've done it every city that I've I've lived that. I respect the guy to speak out. But I'm more of a door. No, that's a beautiful thing. He's always good about that life. So always am I smart A little bit a little bit what the fun get my friends number? He wasn't Besson. I got him part that I'm agreeing with. Yes, we too, sir. But what so now you had this luxurous deal with Rebox, Right, this is rumored that you said that these sneakers are too expensive. No, I didn't say that. I was. I was leaving the practice one day and this lady with her baby shot Sha Shota kat. But the mama wasn't smiling, and she's like and she went off he live, just crying about the price. And I stopped and I thought, I was like, she right, and the pump rebox on, yeah, all of them, but they were like to to something because because honey, because everybody trying to compete with Mike. That was the business song. I'm sitting there, I was like, yeah, she right. And then I called Rebuke and I said, I'm gonna start my own brand. And then we did a deal with wal Mart. And since the first year was actually making those leaks for you, right yeah, yeah, But then I had something carved out work and do my own thing on the side, so we we we started the dunk Man. Yeah yeah, the dunk Man. So like, yeah, so you know where I got that from, right, Yeah, Jordan did the jump man because that's how you dunk And I was like, you know what I'm gonna do, dunk man, working, work, working. So since the NAETI time we did that, we were probably sold over about four hundred down to No. Thirty nine and below. So so where we come from, it's not that we don't like cheap stuff. We don't like stuff that looks cheap. So I I get so I get this. To be straight, you created a business. I'm sure you answers that you still made money selling it at a lower price. So if you're invest in things is going to change people's lives, you always get the return of your money. For me, that that wasn't the money thing. That to me, that was more of a statement thing, like big time guys can be down here with us too, because like sometimes when we get big time, we want to go upstairs. So Wald, Walmart and Target those are considered the downstairs market. So I wanted to just you know, talking it was just warm Yeah, I want to know all over Walmart, Target? Yeah, yeah, so have you saw warm shacks? Jordan's no, not even no. Jordan is a guy of selling juice. He's that's why he's a big in there. But you know again that that that play was about taking care of the babies, because I remember, I remember when Jordan's first came out. I cut grass, walk dogs, wash dishes, try to get a job McDonald's. And then by the time I could get to two on the dolls, the thirteens, but out size fifteen, I still put him on any you know, I put him on anyway. And that's where my toes messed up. Now, So that's that's funny to hear you say that, because I didn't you have to face this guy. How is that like you favor up? So first time I played it, I was terrified. It was he nice to you, that's your idol. No, it's just that's Jordan's bro. That's what it was like, like like high school cousin. I never got dunked on when I was like this dude could probably dunk on me right now. But but so when he first came into a little stellar move and he shot a shot, I was right there. So now I was like, oh, like because I was like, he's a guy, but I'm like I'm close to the guy, so so af thought I got almost blocked this shot. All that all the went away. Yes, humanizing, and then you know the same thing with you and you like in the garden. You know, you got to show up in the guard. So you know, when I get to the garden, it's like, nice to meet you, missing you and put your hand up, nice to meet you. Mr You and Pat no like that and Pat there, shut your ass up, rookie. So I'm like like that, I'm like, you know you don't that right, yeah, So so now because I was like, man, it's Pat. But then when he did that, I'm like, bro, you're trying to punk me in front of my family, right Bro, I know we're in New York for Jersey right over there to us said okay, and then you know, the same thing with him, so you know, the first guy, he got me. But like you know, on that turnaround right there, I said, okay, I'm going home and watch this table and the guy to do and the next guy we played them, you know, I block his turnaround. So so like so once I blocked us turnaround, I knew I had him. That's funny because that wasn't My very next question was everyone sells these stories. Yeah, NBA players on here they tell these stories about rookie Hazen, I didn't get haste. Shout out to Scott Scotts. He's like, he's like carrying my bags. I said, I'm not a rookie. I'm the franchise. When Dennis Scott on the team, when you went to yeah, my boy done to it. So like people making no, I ain't doing none of that, man, I'm Diesel. So the Scott was saying, hey, man, just carrying the bags because when you know, just played again. So I played the game with you, but I ain't carrying. I'm not no bad carry because you know my thing is make me carry your backs. You with my eyes, I'll carry your back. So I'm like, I'm like the big guy with a big guy mentality. I know you can probably fight, but in my mind, I'm not gonna let no little guy. What's all? So everybody little to me, there's like carrying my ain't carrying no back. So you know, once I started playing and you know, everything start coming and they showed me a little more respect. But I didn't get haste. You didn't never. But I don't know what you're talking about. Is there anybody in the w n b A that could beat Jack diesel on one on one right right now, he's taking a shot to that. No man, no annoy broke up. W n B A, what do you have to say about Britney Grant and what you're going through. I spoke mad, we did Russia. They showed it out there. I was there with you. It's unfortunate. They're doing it to the US to make a thing for the US around the same Tithing's unfortunate. And I wish Mr Biden would do a little more to get around. And that's all I can say or not I have a solution for the w n B A. So I don't know if you know, and and and male's beach volleyball and women's beach volleyball to that's Lord, just a little bits, that is Lord. The only thing missing from the w NBA to to the NBA game ms the dunk. So I'm not saying Lord to nine feet they get so they can dune. But but but but more of that, not not just it's a little bit. So I think if they did that to make the game more exciting, because they got the handles, they got the shooter, they got the showmanship, they just don't have the dunk. And so just imagine that. So if you lower the rim just a little bit, you're dunk man. Yeah what not? You're right, Yeah, you're right about that, just for me for real. Yes, those are plated rules. Why wasn't you on the night to Dream Team? There was rumors that you was down with Pepsi and it was a cold, cold team. No, So Christian later, Christian he had a better college career the man previous year. Yeah, because they because they won championships. He wasn't the best player coming out of college. He but but he had a he had a better career. And I like, again, sometimes you have to sit out and just be honest. Only best players I should be on the team. But then I don't want to be on team anyway if I ain't gonna play, right. So, but so he had a better career, So I said, okay, but you still keep it here and it just drives you. So now I have to ensure that I'm the first pick, right, I think. So I was just you know, doing a lot. So I went that whole summer and just played with Matthew Johnson and just learned the learned the NBA game because because it's a different game. It really is. When you've seen that clip with m J and Magic, Johnson said you just Ni, let's do it right now. I felt like, y'all Niggs never leave the game. No, we don't. We don't. And that's why when we criticize these young players, we always gotta well, I would have did this, I would have did that. It's just it's just what we do. Like I wish I was playing now. Shout out and shout out to Lebrown. He just showing that the two year nineties seven extension Dame got two years one twenty. Oh man, I wish I was playing right now, and that keeps me young. But I don't miss it. But I wish I was playing bro at that level period because because this is I mean, because this is how, because this is always did my country. If you're averaging less of me and doing less to me, but you're getting paid more than me, that was perfect. I'm just like, oh, he got this, So now I'm going like, yo, if you paid him this, but you're gonna get me. So with me being shock, I'm not saying I'm better than a guy, but for me being shocking, if you know you're getting one twenty and you get ninety nine. I'm gonna be up there too. For two years, the most I made was seven, which was a lot of money at the time, but one for two a lot of money, A lot of money now money right now. I got one point of money back then. That's what he said. He got the platinum, the check for the for the record broad Intelligent ship. You're embarrassing us. Better Redeve yourself talking about talk about second year because we're getting the Miami right right, yep, Miami didn't know we get. We didn't and we got and it was shocked. So that was an accident and we won. Yo, that was a great year. But you can stuff. This is a lot of stuff that happened. I want to talk about that year. So that was an accident because after we how's it an accident? I heard you say that before, because pat Riley, even though me and Kobe had our problem, get there, we're gonna be forever. I ain't leaving you, You ain't leaving me. But then my contract is coming up. You got to pay me and then business wise you're good. Shock, But in four years you're gonna be thirty thirty. We want to pay that much. We just understand. Yeah, the friendly we just understand. But like one thing to understand this business and growing up in the military, I'm used to moving in No never, you can't business. So then after we lose, I don't even get a data rest' I'm eating cereal with my son and I'm watching Espen because I want to hear what people saying about me. So so I could add to you know what I gotta do to summer shack and Ship said justizz yeah yeah. So then they said, uh, Shock will uh the Lakers will will take, will take. Well, we're listening for trades with Shock. So I'm like, so, now man, because at least give me the respecting comment and say, hey, you know we want to you know, we want to change now, we want to you know, we want to give it up. But they didn't comment. So now man, So I'll call him and said, okay, because I couldn't do it by myself. Always, I gotta have yeah, like, I gotta have somebody with him. I learned that with Pitty. I learned that with Pitty because when I first got out but couldn't do so, I needed another guy. So I remember watching playoffs and I remember the Way giving it to Baron Davis, and Baron Davis is my guy. But this d Way, he came down to Miami, he killing, but he ain't got nobody with him. So now I'm saying, Okay, if you're gonna move me, that's where I'm going. Alright, y'all, just ain't gonna send me where I want to go. I'm going there. And then they said that pat Riley was in the office talking to the Lakers before that. I don't know if he's trying to get the job or trying to get back, but they said he was there. So they said after he left, they gave him a car and said, hey, we want to move Shack and he wants to come down there. And so they did the deal, and I was down there, but I saw in him, I'm mixture of Penny and copy in d Way. So when I got down here, first conversation where he has had all that stuff you heard about that forget it. That's your team. You're the man. That's it's your team because I've never seen always because my thing is I always got to be in charge. And some people don't like that. But I don't give a ship you don't like it, it's mine right, so with him, because I'm older anyone, I said, it's your team, though I'm gonna show you how to win. I'm sure you how to get a certain things, but that's your team. You need me have bey then, So so it wouldn't be no because it was already his team. I didn't want to just come take it over. You don't really know me like that. So it's your team. You go, man, you want a team without you speaking to him when I came out here, we met him beach and say, yo, man, I'm here with me in the beach. You came huh man man man. So we're sitting there and I told him, I said, your team and I come to win because you know, and also criticism motivation at that time three but you know, criticism motivation. He left shock, you ain't gonna win again? Like I need that. I don't. I don't get soft and get better and respond back, I'm like, yeah, I want to do more. You knew it was gonna do it. Yeah, we actually could have wanted to hear before that, but I died injury, and you know, we lost the Detroit in game seven. But I actually could have got too so now you have one of the most liveliest, craziest performance I ever seen. You're performing and then you just start on Kobe, tell me how my ask tastes. I said, wait a minute, that was a freestyle. Let's listen. Difference between the rapper and the MC. I'm seeing that, I'm seeing and I got and I know. I was at a comedy club. Okay, people expect that, and people was laughing. Everybody had a good time back there. As cold as an athlete. Yeah, but again, when you cut it up and put it out, it was first time and getting any crazy thing is the reason why you need to get mad, because that's the same stuff for used to do on the bus, right, We used to have battles on the bus, you know, like when you have people who think they know it all, they're getting a bit. Oh, ain't know because I'm not gonna get in trouble. I'm gonna get in trouble. What's gonna I'm gonna get a spanking. Spank me though. I But you know what I've learned in life, You're never worried about other people's face. I'm just kidding. If you worried about I'm just saying I believe you're right, sat Yes, how the shock rose in comedy the shack in the fool? Like, how did that go to do? So shocking the food is? We want to We want to replace the word bloopers because remember back of that everything. We want to get rid of that word called everything shock in the fool and it's just look to make people laugh. Our show is also successful because they allow us to use humor. We all know sports, we all know stats. But you guys, you gotta work in the morning, so we're gonna keep you up late. We want you to enjoy what you're watching. We don't want you to sitting there going like this mad because just a crappy game. We want to say, a crappy game and to see us release that energy. Sleep at your wife if you wake up, we have a great day. We want to We want to help people have a great day. Wants all the question as show look like you know. So when I was watching death, comedy, jam, yes, comedy and music calms me. I'm gonna go crazy, right, So if I can laugh, I'm good. If I could listen to the song, I'm good. So when they stopped that, I saw an opportunity to do it, and we we did it, and you know, it took off for a while. I'm thinking about bringing it back. We need to laugh. Someone's tried to happen. We just had Dasha Pelong is going to be released soon. But I remember I was happening like it's like disagreement because he's saying, you know it was it was like a mass shooting that happened. It was like, you know, I don't want to be celebrating while mass shootings happened, and I felt I felt the exact opposite. I was like, you know, I feel your pain, but you know I'll send I'll send the PJS when someone gets shot. We don't stay home. We come outside the next day and still played double Dutch. You come outside of the next day and still play one. And I'm not I'm not trying to be insensive that it was happening, but I'm also trying to tell you that's just the reality of what happens. From we we we are so we are sold already hurt. That a little bit of hurt a're gonna stop us and even the country as you can, you can't. That's that's something that human poor like like no matter what, Like you know, that's where chiplans came from. Chiplans and and and color greens and all this ship came from. It's because we had the worst of the worst of the less of the lesson. We made the best of the best of it. And I always feel like that. And also in this world, we need to value the word respect more because again, you know, haven't got different opinions that don't you gotta be enemies, you know what I'm saying. So you know a lot of times what what and then it goes to somewhere don't need to go. So I'm big on respect, Like you always have to agree with me because I'm not the smartest guy. I'm not always right. But if you do disagree to me, I ain't gonna try and fight you. Everything's worth going that letter, That's what I'm saying. Yes, I mean, but now it's it's just you know, going crazy. We've seen a clip the other day, right, Dennis Robman bothering along the morning. I thought, it's the funniest ship in the world. He used to do that. He used to the clip I saw the morning been down like a question shock Kobe and Dennis robbing on the same thing. Who's the biggest superstar. You can say that, you ain't gonna hurt my feelings, just say superstar said, I'm gonna say that he's the more colorful distract. That's what it is. He if he played with us, I've seen this dude play a full game. Don't take a shower, go to the club and some of the baddest women I've ever seen my life, don't go to his sex. Did you say he not took the shower, did not take a show. So he just so the game said, you can't bring this is a game in seven thirty. We gotta be there at six. He come in at six late for the meat eating chicken and rice a right, take a cold shower while we're talking and talking about going over game plan. Didn't come out and play after the game, put his tough on, go to the club and the batties come out. I'm talking about actually, like I ain't listen, I'm the shock I'm brought about. I ain't never seen nothing like this, and this is and this is like after every home game. It was a crazy day I ever seen my life. And you got me and co on the same team with him. But yeah, he's he has a correct guess. I ain't never seen nothing like that in my life. I'm talking, man, we need to do wrong. How's your how's your? I want to, I want to. I want to connect it to a Dennis Roman thing. But after the game, you said that you didn't practice smiling. Smiling was a look, let do it. That's a shocking fool right here, ship he was trying to over there. I just said that when you was you didn't practice because you knew what the mission was. But after the game, how was your ethnic? After the game? And I say that because I feeled the copinant going that book, he made a comment that he played against Dennis hard, the game was hard, and then Dennis went and ran five miles after the game. That's that's true, that's true. That's a mashine. But after the game might have gone got kids, you got family, and plus I used to get beat up, so I didn't go home and chill and launch a movie so I could recuperate for the next day. But you know, everybody is different. Everybody prepares their own way. But after I after I gave you my two and a half hours, I gotta take care of reality. Stuff got way for I got kids like mom and all my boys and game were gonna eat so but yeah, that's true, like he used to do stuff like that after the game wrote five months that's true and tim booths and timboo, Okay, that's true. And then go to the club. Did they ever get high locker? You know, I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, smoke and that is my guy. But I've never seen that that so I don't know is legal though I ain't told my week this medicine. I mean, this is a cigarette. But I'm saying yeah, actually different because I gotta, I gotta, I got a license just burn let me see it. Yeah, I got because that worst everyone thought you was a firefighter though you didn't do that. Man, I swear did that too. But doctor, yes, I have a PhD. But not a medical doctor. No doctor. What I was gonna say, you're a doctor like doctor d for you did you was doing like the thing like you know like that? What did you get your doctors in education? Yeah? Yeah here and I also did that for the kids. Let me let me ask you something. Why doesn't so many players it's it's like so much of a rumor that when players finished, did they go back broke, Like it's true. Get the Lante West right, and we see we see this, And I'm gonna be honest when I see the footage, I was saying to myself, I hope that's not him. I hope this is a rumor. And then and I'm speaking to because you know obviously, like you said, music and sports go together. Speaking to a lot of my NBA friends and they're like, that's that's ninety percent of us. It's like almost seventy percent of us. Because it's easy to do because they you spend your money, you get used to spend. It happen because the first words you need to understand is FICA and you don't so like it's on the paycheck. So if you're doing a hundred million dollar contract depending on what states you get, ever, you ain't getting a Hunt a million, but you spend like you got a Hunt a million, and that'd be the problem, right, and so so now you gotta cut that and that's it. Let's just go California. So when I lived in California, like I said, this another than California and signed that one twenty for set seven. My first year check was twenty million. When I got it and said ten nine. The first check that you're supposed to see this million, it's set ten. Yeah, FIA states all that, right, but I didn't realize that. So I went by the house for five million. I'm in a Rolls Rose joint and then my boy Alex Tyson in there. He bought two. So I come in into the next day and I'm going on Laker sweats. Me and my boy Alex. We're looking around. I'm looking like a bum. I don't like to wait. I like to spend money, but I don't like to waste money, so I don't want to spend four hundred dollars for a car. So I'm like, hey, man, how much is this? Na? How much this? So finally the old guy says, yo, man, you asked about all these cars? Can you afod them? Now? I'm pissed. I said, what the fund? You just said? Men? So about three? That one, that one and that and I want them dropped off. Moved a seat back today. I want them drop So I got three roys roaster that another drop So they got another million. That's six. Trying to be a rapper trying to produce my own videos. You know, I gotta pay Eric sermon on the board. They're going another man that's seven. Now they fly to Santrope and get on the boat on that. So I spent I spent that ten million probably in three months, the whole summer. And then my guy called me and say, you know, you spend your whole check. I had money, I had other money, but he said, you know, you spend your whole check. Let's just make noise you spend it tip. So I was like, what do you mean they're like he said that bird man. No. Yeah, So like I was, I was still paying said a lot of money. I was paying attention. But I was like, okay, now I need to really And then I was getting married at times like now I really need to start paying. It ain't about me no more. It's about these babies. So but yeah, that's true. Six guys that you just for you did you get did you have the right team around you to help you invest properly. It's not about the team. It's about you have to have You have to have discipline and everything has to be structured. So I don't have boys. My boys work for me, we get money together, instead of me giving you a hundred thousands. No, we could start a company and we could do certain things. You could bring it in that way to put them on salary, like start a company, put them on salary, right that off and get some of that back rather than just giving them money and you know, just making the proper investments. I heard Jeff Bezo say, if you're investing things gonna change people's lives, invested things that's gonna change people's lives, you will always get the proper return on your money. That's why I did the Shacks You deal. That's why I did the ring camera deal one kind, and that's why I did Papa John. Like, let's say everybody, everybody, everybody loved piece of he's skeeting over there. No no, because you know why, um, we get to see people like you nas jay Z, you know, live luxtrious life after the sport, after the game, and it's all being like that's what you get watching them like you Burry Maddrel Right, Like I saw jay Z at the the Good State game and we just started giggling because he's still doing it. I'm still doing like bro, He's like, man, so I told him that, man, much respect you do a big thing? Like how much respects to you? Like I watched Puffy Like it's it's a respect, but it's a competition thing. And when I could be I could be jealous without with without hating. Yeah yeah right, So I'm like, damn, Puff got his own. Look at them about to get me a dam like So so it's this. It's also competitive. It's what drives mean. And I heard Snoop say, he said, man, y'all, I'm chasing Diesel. No, I'm chasing Snoop, Snoop doing big thing. I'm chasing jay Z. I'm chasing like when jay Z started invested and now I started investing with those firms. Who yeah, well those firm Instead of hating about all that you've just learned. So I'm happy that we're all still doing it. And it's been a documentary about that, like the guys who started here and like we're still doing everybody, so breaking down how it goes for every every basketball player or every ex baseball player, every ex football player or every ex wrapper up every XDJ that that you know what you feel like it's time to move on and go into this other life because you know, I was speaking to Bust the Robs the other day, was telling me to give him his respect to Buster kept saying to me, he's like, man, it's time for me to have this other investment that has nothing to do with music. And I didn't kind of like a realized what he was saying. But basically what he's saying is like I need another life. But how does this happen for you? Like is this this happening because you spent that to million in three months? And then you start to say that it was just opportunities that presented a little bit of both. But you have but but you have to make it happen. It's not gonna happen. You have to make it happen, you know. For you know, the good thing about athletes and rappers as we all know how to be spontaneous, Like we can go, we can switch it up. Like everything I'm doing is like quick thinking. Like I thought I was gonna make that best about money forever. But then when when I realized you're getting older and at coming down to twenty two and the two coming down the four team trying to start doing other things, I mean and you Jay C did what now I said what Puffy sold his company? Like you start, you know, you get inspiration from other people and and all you guys give me inspiration like you. You persevere, like you kind of don't want to say disappeared, but you was. You was fat man, you know, raising the kids and all that, and then you popped up doing this thing. Now you're back on top songrasuations. Let me ask you, what would be your advice though to the average person that isn't a ball player, isn't in the music industry, would be So I would say educate yourself. Now when I say educate yourself, and about going to school getting a degree, because I learned about business, not from college. I learned about business from a book called The Dummies Guy, to start your own business. And the first thing I did was incorporate my family. The first thing I did is take the cell phones out the personal name and put them into business name so we can get some of that money back. And then you learned the on the way. So just like whatever you want to do, educate yourself. And now I'm listening. If I was a fourteen fifty now, I'd be a genius because you know why because information is so available. It's so available how to be a DJ? Like there, like the currect thing. I had to have one of my homies teacher. Now you can go online everything, That's what I'm saying. So like so now like you can you can go to goog gonna be how do I want to? So my advice is whatever you want to be, educate yourself on how you can do and then just you know, have virtual mentors. But we had to try to find physical mental Yes, what's the name of that book? You said, Tell these guys just starting your own business? Wow? What business you started? After week? So the first thing I did was incorporated shock incorporated shock, and I do and then yeah, and then I put my mom on Saturday and put my dad on Saturday. And you know we helped the taxes right, and you know we had a fan club. I I go out in my office and got in my car and that was so proud. Is the best day of my life was when I got drafted. You know, my parents like, congratulations, love you because you know, my dad hardcourts see you later. I don't lose your my life. He wanted to stay in the army. Bess like, now, come with me, man, know how much you making? The army only make sixoness out? Now you make a half a million a year? What you start crying out? Mom? How much you want to make? You make seven fifty and put them on like yes, and also had to teach you in the business. I'm not gonna give it to you. Nobody's helping him on the tax side, like the half of me. You're gonna give me a man like no, I'm gonna breaking down into twelve. Everybody gave you yeah book because instead of giving it to the rest, you giving it to your family and you can write it off, right. That's so with you? Your own? How many clubs you on a base? I owned seven restaurants Jesus and one club. One club club it's called Shot. I used to own the biggest club in Vegas. It was called Pure. But that was a long time ago. And you live in Vegas. Why are you invested in Vegas? Because everybody I live everywhere, brother, Miami, Davy, every Michael. I didn't know that you shut your show here? Oh yeah no, because my boy out She's like Nori. I was like, man, I love Nori, but I'm not flying in New York Miami, for real, hold on, you just got your license. I just got my big because you would have pulled me over and told me to jah listen, man, I ain't gonna lie to you because because it's what this is. I've always had people to drive for me. That's that's a blessing, that's great. But there's sod times where I want to go to seven and eleven and get some how do you call this water? How you call us again? So I want to get something that I don't want to I don't want to wait for, you know, my wife, somebody to drive me sotimes I want to go. And also I like the new Corvette. I just want to Did you get what I'm gonna get? My man, go go ahead, my man, go go here. He tried not to let me get one. He wanted to meet me, go all hits. He got it, but I want to drive and I don't want to drive it with joint? You got the red joint? What you got? What color? The guy? Right now? So I was gonna buy the red joint because I because even I'm a big guy, like feeling a little. So I had a Ferrari one time convertible. So if you take the convertible top, making this and out, you have like ages World of Engines, you're gonna move it back. I was gonna do the same thing with the Corvette. Just take the top out because I don't need the top anyway, because take it out and just don't need to I don't need the top top. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I figured, I said, you know what, let me stay because I'm risking my life every time I leave my house to go get a goddamn switching sweet. You know what I'm saying, You guys gonna make airline news. Someone to hold me over like this the northerthing. Let's take I'm saying, like, yeah, I'm saying to myself, I say to you, bro. So I went through the process too, like JP hooked me up. So I took the written road test and then I get what I mean, just give me the written test. But then I got to take the road test because I want to get it all locked out, like I wait, I'm not waiting to tomorrow. And just my love, I get like, you know, the guy that knows I'm nor don't want to dream like nice to me, and she's like so he jumps in. By the way, I was a dickhead for this. I did not realize this, they said, because my name has to be on the insurance for me to take the road test. So I pull up and the guy goes in my car. He goes, is this some Mercedes or may back? And I go on, the Mercedes make the may back? And I said, I failed. Right there, I see that is the de question, like you were so confused over is this a Mercedes are made back? And I said, I said it so like nonsense bench, I did my test may back and I gotta go with me. But so he goes. So the minute he goes, is this a Mercedes or made back? And I sit it and I'm trying to like I'm talking to like how we talk to one of my normal friends, and like, no, normal sir. The Mercedes makes the mate back and then he just he said wrong. I said to myself, I failed this ship. There's no hey, I'm fasting it. And then let me just tell you something. If everything would go wrong, it almost wrong. I got on the big gass. But listen, yagers, I don't know if you know you know, so gas and break at the same time because by the way, I go through the course prior to us doing it before the guy comes out. But list yeah, because you know what I'm saying that you want I'm talk about to think one, I'm not. I was trying to flow well, y'all. But like me and my I's we go through the course like five six times. He's working about me backing up, so every I do everything but back up when I go through the course. So now God comes out. He's he's ship's face. He got the mask on, and I'm like, like, take your mask off, making it if you got it, I got it at this point, making like we're just gonna but I don't say that obviously I'll do everything correct. Then he says, give me a three point turn, and I just kept it real. I said, I was in there three hours studying three point turn in here. Wow, you know it's up when you're gonna pump when let you turn. Let's take a trick for that. I can. So whoever that guy is, by the way, because he wasn't a dick, he wasn't a dick. He wasn't He was actually a cool guy. He was, but he was being hard on baby Shock would you do a baby, shack what you want? No more spending, no more spend good s. Shock, let's be part of since my name you know when you play here good the sheriff, the sheriff, we know we shof correct bad? Would you drinking sunny? He tried me sent to mentor every day? But about what you know? You know how I ask about what I'm saying? That shot you see every day with the police in America. Again, seriously, we see what's going on. No, I just want to ask somebody. You just say whatever you want. I'm on, I'm put chat right, How did you personally feel about it? You gotta see some list stuff going on and it doesn't matter that shot ain't about that. But when you didn't know matter if it's in Texas, Las Vegas, North Dakota. I tell whatever, how do you personally feel about that? Because I know you got something personal when they because when I speak to the police now and tell them welcome to my life, and they said, what do you mean? I said, when I do something, it affects read by this, it affects that exactly. So now when you guys do something, it affects right, That's the first thing I tell them, and it hurts me when some guys go overboard. It really does hurt me. But you know, the ones that do go overboard, they need to be dealt with properly because a lot of that stuff they don't teach. And have been a four or five different guys. They don't teach that. And having police, yeah, they don't teach a lot of tithing and it's a dangerous job now. But when I was growing up, they had something that was called neighborhood policing, like you know, Mari, I know, yeah, yeah, that's day front of the neighborhood. I know, Mari, I know you made a mistake me before we lock him up, let me go highlight you. Yeah, man, you're trying to be a rapper. Next time you're you're the boy like we had that. Yeah, so we don't have that now, so we need to get back to that. So you know, I'm the director of community Relations in Atlanta, Georgia. I'm trying to bring the police in the community back together again. I don't stand for when people break the law, So there's an officer. If you do something crazy, you need to be dealt with properly. But I tell them all the time. When one does something it affects us all. One rapper does something, When one podcast or something that's gonna affect us all, you know, they need to know and understand that. So what about the police policing as a gang like where the good ones might be good, but they're not going to tell all the bad ones. Well, that's something that has to be dealt with. Two, because you know that's a culture in itself. Well, it's a culture for everybody. It's a culture for rappers. It's a culture for rappers. You know, it's a culture for us. Like if if I knocked somebody out in here right now, not not one of us, but let's just say somebody came out the street and I knock somebody out, you ain't gonna rapper, That's what I'm saying. So it is that that that that that's a different conversation. And you don't think that the police should be at a different hell of a different standard than us right here, No, they should write what I'm saying that they should. But listen, you know how this you know what this and again that's a different conversation. I don't want to get that the conversation because the way I think may not be the way other people think. That. That's why I don't come out and talk a lot. But I can't say that if you break the law and if you don't listen to what's what's written down and how they teach you, something got to happen to you. That's real ship. That's real ship. So we we basically damn that coupled almost everything. But I don't want good got again. There's a little bit more go for you. Go on your side. You other other sides come ahead. They want to pitch it with you. They'll be introduction you be again. Okay, hold cool, alright, cool, I ain't know you're just Cuba. I would okay, I don't want to disrepreg nobody. But one time I called the Cuban girl port rigging shoot you in the bed. Oh no, she's trying to him. That was Puerto Rican. She trying to fight me, fight me. And one time I call it Dominican girl, Puerto Rican. That's what I was called, Mexican and Puerto Rican. After not living, I was called come over here for the next test in t s A like you from over there. Yeah, that's it. She went off yeah right now, oh yeah, Sam Haitian Rightian, right, we want he didn't want to come with us, guys, but they don't believe me. Now we believe it. But you're not Haitian though you said, I ain't been hate either. Say that again, Say that again. It's borderline of Haitian. That's really against. Say Shack is no no, say Shack is boran, I hate? Yeah, what is that name? Is that the Muslim? This is the first show you're gonna have about a million virus clips from the ship. How come if this is a Muslim name, how come it's not not one of the Muslim I know in the world name to kill? Yeah? Yeah, so so one of w I became understand, it's like thousands of people names she killed. So when I was when I was born, my mother comes from a very religious family and born out of wedlocks where they kind of outs. So she's walking down the street in Oregon. She made her brother, who as a must a book full of Muslim names and she killed. Russian means little warrior. So she said, okay, y'all kicking us out, She's gonna be me and my little warrior. So I've always loved the name because it was God given. What I mean by that? Growing up, I always wanted to always wanted a nice basketball name, Larry right now, you like Larry Bird, Magic, Sequi, sequill on Neils right here? Okay, I'll cull you back and I finish it alright, my brother, So I always one of that. So I always wanted that that dope name, Shaquille O'Neil. So I think it was, you know, god given. How do you feel about the youngest person to like the older person connecting with to relating to you. I told my mom she's gonna be honest, and if he was, he's eighty. So they have a word role model for me, I had to change it to real model. I'm not real model. I can't play a role get that. Bag. Have to be who I am and if you accept me, and I know and I know most people will accept me because my worst fear is my mother looking at the TV and see me acting crazy, not acting funny, acting crazy. So because acting yourself, yes, So, because I have the respect for her, I'm always be nice, always be curious. And on fifty, I don't want no problems like we didn't have been battle tests do all that when I see people, Now, what up, homie? It ain't it ain't no more, ain't no more who I'm fifty, weren't been and done that. I don't want no problems with nobody. What's up? How you don't? I don't care what you do, what you represent? Who are you? With peace? Love and respect? And we move on because I'm bro we didn't I did all that. I don't did all the me mugging and beach and trying to find everybody. We passed that, we passed the tests. We're here now. You know we're professionally, you know we're maybe I care so I just try to make people happy, you know, just make people smile. You do that definitely. Man. No, no, I can't find man like we just watching you, um be watching your career from the beginning. Uh. You know, I can't say to the end because there's no ending to it, and me just seeing you prosper and having so many different businesses. It inspires me. I'm gonna because you can't real that's for real? Is you know? When we grow up in the hood, they say, they say this, if you want to be a man there, you're gonna have seven jobs. Right, So I'll be feeling like, if that's the truth, then you should show me those seven jobs. A lot of people don't. A lot of people will show you that one or two jobs, and then they won't let you know about the ring. They won't let you know about the fire truck that they you know what I mean, They don't want to try on the side or or or let me remix that for you. Why they gotta show you. Won't you go out and create seven of your own jobs? Yeah, that's yeah, Like you don't like like you don't need because because everybody's not gonna give up the secrets. I always give up the secrets. Protest gonna tell kids listen to your mommy and daddy. Huh, I said, because like, how did you get so? First time? I listen to my mom and day? So I made a lot of money. Listen to drill sergeant as secretary. I'm gonna get to that. Listen to somebody you believe when you trust boys and Girls club mentor police officers, somebody that you look up to. Listen because if you don't listen, you ain't gonna make it anyway. You don't listen, you're not gonna make it. And if you don't listen, you're not gonna have that one first, that beacon. So do you learn to be an entrepreneur because you've mentioned many times about being an entrepreneur, or like a joint ventureship like you've done. You said that. So so when I'm reading the book, I don't understand anything. I understand. Yeah, I don't understand that, but I understood joint ventureship. It is a partnership. So then I said, okay, let me try that. I want to start a sneaker company. I'm not going to China. I'm not setting up no factory like this cost I ain't I ain't got that money yet. I can't pay a hundred people in China who I can't see. Yeah, that infrastructure, that's where the joint venture coming at. So let me do. Let me get on the call. He who makes his shoes, Oh, he makes Let me get his name with the gentleman by the name of Steve Jackson. Last he was doing conversation the last shoes. So we had a conversation. He's here, he already has that infrastructure. So my joint venture is with him. Of course he gets this piece. I get my piece have my own shoe company, but I don't really have my own shoe company where I own a hundred percent sold me by myself, so I had to do a joint venture. So most of my deals to joint venture. I want to do a water company. I don't want to buy no factory. I don't want to have to deal with the FDA. They already got it. I want to do a podcast. My man, my man, he's famous, my man, right here. He looked like me. You know, you just choose. That's how I tend to do my business, and then when you base it on respect and trust, it can never go wrong. Like if I do this liquor thing, I'm not gonna start from the bottom. I'm gonna do with JV with somebody that's already has shelf space and distribution. Listen right now, right now, I was gonna do a look at company. A friend of mine, he's in here, and he said, I cannot let you start from the bottom. You gotta start be mad at me right now, all the other company that I don't walk away. He said, that's well the way. But he's right though, like because sometimes we work so hard and then we want to have ownership. But what we do is we start from the bottom of the ownership and ownership tim percent ownership still ownership, and then you know so nothing yea. And sometimes you have a hundred percent of something that's not worth nothing, and then when you get there, you move on to something else. See people ask me why I work hard, Not that I work hards, just that I'm I'm prog I'm not to be complacent. Right after this, I got to do another podcast. Yeah you're doing to listen my own. Oh see, you ain't gonna vite us. I would love to, but I don't like to bother you. But yeah, yeah you do. You fo me a podcast at at my house. Okay, I don't have all this ulp you out topping a little sign yourself, sign you signed to yourself. When you do a joint venture, we can popping sports. Yeah, okay, hip hoping sports. That's what my man was. My man name the comedian dude. Um he does dances like that? Yes, my partner. Yes, I met him in real life, but follow him so much on Instagram and I think I know him, like, like, guess how much I followed? Just go woke up to me. But Lena, my nigger. He might like what the fund is wrong with him? Because I just feel like I don't know um and him and Aprion Crockett then Jack. So many people does impressions with you? Who was your favorite person that does impression you? Jay Foul, Apion Crockett, Vin Hard got a good spars spat Fox, Jamie Fox doesn't good. Yeah, but you know I like that. You like it, you know, because I like laughing like that. And then I'm not. I'm not to the point where I'm all that, to where I can't laugh at the joke that's funny. Like what imagine me trying to fight Apion Crocket because they did impression? That's silly. I don't I don't do silly stuff. Back in the day, I was real silly. But you know what, I realized it was silly because we all chase useless titles. You're the best tej ever. What does that mean? Are you getting paid? Are you getting paid a check from some secret or tell you the best thing? You're the best big man ever. You're a man. But what does that mean? Don't mean nothing. I don't mean nothing. So like once I learned to stop doing that and just have more fun. Everything everything blossoms, like you've got the best pocket and y'all do have the best podcast, but appreciate. Yeah we have a good one. Yeah you do. That's a good one. And your category. It's only two of y'all, So it's a lot of people that do that, but it's only two of y'all. And you know who the other ones is everyone Gilly and Wallow category. It's only y'all to y'all, Like, yes, let me tell you how how weird I am. We love me and our broke game. We love Joe Button, I'm there, we laugh rate on it coming back out. We love whom but one like it's a podcast. But like man thought, Rory and mall, y'all to your own special category, Like like me, I'm not the best big man. I got my own category. You're the most dominant big man. So y'all y'all have I know they all do in podcast, but y'all y'all and get what y'all got you He asked you something because this is this was like every time they always that's on the model your son. He could be beautiful, but call you beautiful. But everyone like Harold Mirnon came to the league, but Harold Mirner came to the leader like that's the new Jordan's and in Zion Zion, what do you feel about side because because Scion I like them. Yes, I think they're giving them too much slack slack slack, yeah in the negative way. Like they're talking about is weight. Yeah, leave the man alone. Like you put a guy in front of me with the six pack and all that, I'm gonna kill his ass every time. I'm gonna eat that Popeyes, I'm gonna eat the Papa Johns, I'm gonna drink of water and drink the PEPs and I'm gonna destroy his every time. So listen to man could play. He got bound, but you got all these experts he needed to know. He just needs to play, have fun and take that fan. I like this game. I'm anxious to see what he can do. You're putting them numbers. The second year, he just got hurt and you know, oh, he's way way that man like everybody like gonna have I never had. I'm starting to get a six pack now, but I never had that. I don't need that sold up here and he got to put on playing video games a week that visual was bad. That was I mean, but was that him really or I mean, yeah, it was with mont So I want to say over where he's just big boned and I'm not gonna say because I'm not. But he listened. He got bounced though, and then and then you know, for guys like us, like like when I came to Amy, they shock with so I lost. I was weak, bro, I was like because because remember I'm shocked or people coming to meet like this, I was. I was always bruised and heard up. But when I had that meat, I was on stoppable. I looked like him and I had all that if you said, obviously potentially tried to go at you right like I couldn't block it, like he would? You tell me this other people in the NBA who wanted to like Dunk was shot. That was that was a poster like Vince Carter tried to get me one time. I had to lay him out. I remember that fall in Miami, and then the next play down here got Zoe. Yeah remember that. Yeah, but I mean before that, you had to lay him out. Ship Okay, irv Gotty, what's that big dog? Baby? Yes, my bad dog. Just I'm just I'm not gonna taking a shot for that time? Can I get heyst can I got one too? Are you sure so shot didn't go. I'm gonna keep you look like you gotta be good. You gotta be good. I don't just like I'm gonna keep you round. I'm gonna be fair with you because I asked you easy to say. Ship. We're taking the shop for the take it. You're the only two people that I know they got an automar dealt Automa. So I want my autumn a today. I'm pleading my case with you. You want I want jack all them all? Oh no, those are hard to get. Those are done rightly made that many we make they made two thirty two number that shock actual real number. Yea J. I was like, y'all want to I want to take I gotta be good for that autom all. He was like, well, good luck, play boy. That's how I fished. I don't think like that, but my mom was like that. I like that so though, So that's really more real when they make thirty two. This is you don't have one in the crib in Orlando with the fifty bad You know person, No you ain't because you don't you don't believe watch you want to do? I have Invictor watches now invicted that you would you invested into it and I can get your those nothing you want the big job keeping? I don't know why? Why not? I don't know why? Why? Why not? I'll take it? Why not? Let me let me? Why? Because I can I set out for you for free and save you thirty? Why people who don't give a ship about right Invictor giving about me? I do? I am in Victor? Do you believe in me? Do Victor gard My joints is big, but my joints and statements because I see I didn't know what it was. I was like, oh, you know why, because you'd be wasting your time. One. All of my other brands that don't care thirty or model funk with us. I need to know do that. I'm asking you? Did they funk with you after you did? But with you? Damn? I think answer to this, Victor US, you know why I do nice big watches and affordable prices. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna brow your head. Equivalent to the presidential Invictor. What's the like? You can go five thousand, but it's gonna be a style, just like I'll tell you what I'm gonna have my man, Alex, let's go, Alex. Don't know who you talk to to get me on the show. Okay, right, okay, So Jam, he's gonna bring you up four diamond joints. Come on you. Yeah, I'm invicted out. I'm gonna take that. Yeah, we can't do You're gonna take hold up holding the accolades that was mentioned earlier is all. Oh, that's phenomenal, all dope. The Oscar Award that you won making that short film for Luisa Harris. To change the topic, how did you know she was somebody to make a documentary about? And how did you do? Good? Question? One thing I could ever do is steal somebody's shine. Documentaries are already done, right, I just helped Magnified. It's already done, Magnified as you put out there, an say, to listen to this, but I like to be an officionado. Like when you talk about hip hop, I know his stories. At the beginning to talk about DJ, I know your story. I was there. I never heard of this one before, and I was like, oh, how can I how can I have not heard about a woman that was good enough to play in the NBA. So when I heard a story, so I'm like, yeah, NBA. So I'm like if I didn't, Yes, she got drafted by the Utah jess to the first time. Yeah, come on, come on, Oscar you got Is that what you want? A man is based on man stopping man stopping man? Yeah, we know we are. But there was a lot of similarity because Kobe want an Oscar, You want an Oscar, and there was a woman that was good to be playing the NBA. Take please, men and him didn't compete on everything friendly thing. Kobe want to ask me and all my friends compete. I lost some thousands, and I was like, because he said he told you all to have the water in, I said, they're not gonna do it because I've never seen I gave it to So so the fact that he got one, yeah, I like to have one too. Like I'm again, I could be jealous and be inspired by my Jeb, not hate like he gotta ascarn, get me Ascar, he gotta pay not man loris. Yeah, so like you like, when I get jealous, I can inspire. So no, but not not to take nothing with him. You're coming from Newark, New Jersey. I gotta see from Jersey from sake. Alright, so I got next next you. Okay, we're the third. When they tell you you want to oscar, that's not basketball, that's not entrepreneur, that's I like this, that's what is that for? Blue chaps? No, that's what's what are you? I'm programmed not to get excited because there's more to do, because your yeah, because like like like my father would let me get excited, Like you can get excited at the moment. But every time you want a championship, I feel the call. Hello, yes, sir, bring your ass home, bring my trophy. So now I gotta rent the plane and bring my trophy. I go get another one. Have fun in summer, Go get another one, motherfucker. But you loving that though? Did you feel loving and through that accomplish? Yeah? But did you but love though? He wasn't doing that to be found. I finally asked some towards into my career, I said, what did you do that? He said, because I never want you to be complacent, because like I used to, he used to put it on the thing and then when I come back next time, it don't be there. What the trophy of college every there like he wouldn't let you see it. And then when I come back next time, you need to replace it. Give me another one, give me up. So like t years when I went very very hard, and then the third one, which we want in Jersey, he like cry and break down. He's like, man, you've done everything I asked. We're good. He's like, you don't need to win that nothing else. You've got to make it good. I'm believing every you better make it good. We want to be about the shack. Do you guys get your old little Warry O'Brien? You got what your We do know we do you if you have a little guy. And so so with the rings, everything I passed so when he passed away, I gave everything to my father. Yes, so when he passed away, I received the bag and I got sections in my house to where it's you know, it's dedicated to him. But he all lived your mother? Yes, what lived your mother? No, my father passed away. So I'm saying, but you wouldn't give anything to your mother. No, she don't care about that, you know, she's just she's just you know, I'm just a guy. So I was, so I have him now. And I always made Homeboy replicas of the ring because they used to make the ring. But you know, I'm from you know, I had the ice mine house. Like the original rings was just you know, sitting in the house. That's dope. But now they're making the rings nice. It was like Jacob the Big Three guy even yeah, yeah, what do you think about the Big Three? I like him? You like what you like? No, I wouldn't do it because I think no, because because one of those because when the team, because because you see your own Sacramento Kings, yeah, piece of it, you still do. No, I sold it. So like when you say the name shock y'all, remember the Shack with his legs up. Duncan not that guy no more. So go out there now. I don't want you to see me like that. And and plus I did nothing, like if I didn't do much in the league, then I'll probably go out there just I could have been and I do it. But that's a good way to look at it. So like, don't you don't think, you don't think, you don't think a little shack right now, you'll play one on one. I'm gonna kill him. I was almost a league. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm thinking this shot. I'm a little didn't make the friend. He's drunk. All that I can tell yourself. Wait, wait left for me. I'm gonna see for this. So Steve Style calls me. Steve South says, I got somebody that want to do a record with you, right this is right after you. We did do that. I did, I did record after this. I did the record with you. I could find it though. I did the record, and then I woke in the studio this Kobe Brockett there. So I'm like, Kobe, I gotta write this guy's fright real quick. So so I write the rhyme for me, and then I write the rhynd for Kobe. I'm knocking out real fast. Kobe walks in the room and he goes, why do you have two verses? He was like, you know, they don't wanted yours. I don't have to. I don't have one. He's like engineer, and he raised the other one. And I'm looking at the kode because I'm like, there's no way. And by the way, he's speaking in French. He's the engineer. But for some reason I'm understanding that I don't understand French. For some reason, You're reason, I just what are you talking about. He's like, I don't know, Norman, I write my own ship. And I was so like disappointed and impressed at the same time. I was disappointed, like damn, my check just cut in half real fast. But then I was impressed because Kobe, although I know he's not a real, real m c he would not, he wanted to be Kobe even as I was impressed. So I'll tell you the funny thing. Ye oh yeah, oh yeah, So so let me take the funny thing. So I was impressed. So we did the record, and we computed the record. Then later on that night, track master says, that's gonna miss the child's go to dinner. I gets so drunk. Did I come up to Kobe Bryant and I'm like, I just want to keep you real. I think I can beat you one on one right now. And Kobe's thinking about it. It's like, you know, he was like a real champion because he was. He almost said, okay, let's come because I look at Steve Style. Everybody's looking around because I said it was based in my voice. But everyone knows I'm playing. Everyone knows I can't. I know, I can't be Kobe Bryant, but the Hennessey told me I think I could win tonight. So Kobe's like, where's the closest court. Oh, and the closest court is actually Queen's Ridge. We don't because remember if everyone remember fifty seven is the first originally Mr Child's on fifty seven Street. If you actually take a left and you can make it right, you're in Queen's Ridge. So I said, Kobe, that's let's called to kill b And I was gonna challenge Kobe one on one. By the way, I think he would have killed me, and I think he would have not been merciful on me. But because this is how this is how I know he was like this, This is how I know he was a real champion. Was he actually thought about Like he actually looked at me and was like, but where's the closest court? And I was like, man, we got another Superstars right, he's bad? Holy shit, holy ship on. Everyone's saying a lot of sugar shame mostly yeah, good luck, good luck. Oh you lose, yes, yes, you lose. Are you a boxing fan of course? Who say the same movie Tank killing the game? So I think Floyd like and then you know the same but the same conversation we had about basketball, and I'm seeing could do the same thing about boxing. Who's the greatest boxing ever? I think generation. I think it's Floyd. I think Floyd, But you know, some people say Tyson and all that. By the way, our party with Floyd, and then I see him five miles home. I see party with him, see him drinking cranberry juice. Thought it was I'm saluting. And then they get John hold. I said, wait a minute, that they woun't drinking. Boxing the old So I think he's the best boxing like boxing, like bare knuckle boxing, like UFC. I like it all like sports being knuckle boxing was my man from out here, m Kimbo sl RP. That was the best. I kid you not. That was the first time. I don't like seeing fights on the internet. That's not you do. I don't like seeing none of that. I can't stand it. You bet, you bet not, bash, I love it, my friend. We don't believe it did cartoon character that that was drunk all the time. No, he was a cat. I think it was a cat. That's what he's sundling right now. Yeah, but shot who was the player a player that you were saying that a party the balls, whether you played with him or not. GP, GP, that's why got re name right, man the party, but still show the game and he got his own string. Said that what you saying? Whatever? What you said that? Because he said he I was talking about the glove. He said, guys own strand the weed. I said, that's the reason why. Because okay, so he would go out party. If he didn't party, he didn't play well he was. Yeah, so when we were here, we had to move practice back because Pat like to go at eight and ten. We had to move back to twelve because yeah, we all work, but I don't drink. But they would. They would actually party hard, but go to work in the game, go to work in the game. So yeah, Gpa pay we need him, we need him and shout out to hit something from winning the chip this year to him. Really, Gary Pine Junior with the Warriors, Oh really, what's that you got about? Don't check? You don't check your three minutes to piss. You took a boo boo. I don't I gotta get back to you're acting side. You moved on to now. But you're gonna move on to making films. And I did my homework. Man, Sol Jersey Legends Productions, please talk about it, Jersey Letting Productions like so yeah, I've always had the ability to control the commercials and make up the commercials. All the commercials you see are made up by me. And I actually went to film school to see how all this works. And I was gonna do it a long time ago. But now is the time talking my own production company start producing, started directing and doing all that stuff. So we're gonna be We're gonna be taking all documentaries and we're gonna be taking all the documentaries, movies, whatever. You know. We're gonna give opportunities, you know, to give people people jobs. Uh. I just thought of African American well Multicultural Agency, and you know, we went a lot of we want our first awards because when if you look in the if you look in the business of agencies, where to go out, it's not a lot of us. So I just thought of one where it's mostly all of us. You know, we're doing doing big things. But Jersey let Texas, I want to do stuff like this. I want to you know, be behind the scenes instead of instead of being behind the camera. Let's have that. That's so so so. No, guys, you're not my whole life. Man, everybody see telling me you look like shock. This should be an easy job for me. You're here today, shot, I need to be higher as you start four stuffed up? Got tell you what all that ship? If I do it just for man, I give you my word. If I do a commercially in Miami, you got the job. He could do. The creover dubs just happen to say that. So I just want you to know, um, you know, um, we have this whole thing that's going on that uh right, like he is this sunny d he's our friend, but he's not as a proof. You could drink everything else on this table, but the people in a spade do not. They're not fond of him drink at the age. Let's see, give us your basis. You can't see, you can't see tell you. So let's be clear. Because so we all voted him when they came down to it, we all sold him out face. People ask me, do y'all vote that he gets on the ACE list. All of us said no, you would not on his friends. So we would like to act just I wouldn't want to listen to playing this part out. Don't say we do about it. I don't want you about he just you just you embarrass us. Sometimes you want my brother? What did you say about respect? But you know I just got when he's happy and your brothers, we love to tell you something more. Yeah, got about he's the only one that just to pack the belts a game. Well it wasn't a good man. We cut them off. Got the videos. I wanted the same thing. Who got the video? Who got the video about? You know? I'm sorry you say with my white kids? Now? He don't see you again and was doing again. He did the chicken wing shot, take you away away. I were like, nobody got to now when you can turn around her? Yeah, that's know. Yeh was like him, sounds like I told so listen, I'm gonna be honest. Something to look happy. He didn't like that part. I'm dressing on my mom. I can't especially if you do it's supposed to hold her hands, ye know, get her like he like, and he really liked that. He thinkn't she's feeling this? He's like where he would have to react. He was like, this way way too far over. I'm gonna be honest, man, I really appreciate this because you know why, I know you for the coach. I know you're about the coach that I know you of the coach and I know is the coach. But the thing about it is, like you said earlier, we gotta start showing love to each other. You didn't have to come here, you don't have to sit down, but we want we we we wanted to give you a flowers face to face, man and man because we are superheroes. And when I say we, I'm talking about us as the coaching. We are superhero you know what he's saying. Real flowers don't die. They don't die. Snoop calls of the grammy. But shot, I want to thank you, so listen, I just want to thank you so much as a person, as as you as a player, as a businessman, as a real model, as a real model, as a person, because you inspired me to be better. At times I just go on your Instagram or going look at the internet and I see what you do for people that you randomly just meet, and that is that's an inspiration to me. That is so much positive energy. Like me, you know I'm a person I wake up in the morning. Let's I just send positive energy messages. What are you doing, sunny, Sunny, what are you picking up? I'm looking at like I've got here. I'm listening to what you're saying, you know, because I'm feeling man, I don't know what I'm saying. I don't know I'm saying. They usually see her. But you know, I know how you get down positively know much. I understand where you're coming from from a good place. Okay, normally is a great brother, and continued, what's the music? What's the music? I want to thank you once again? Or you gotta do is do and drone? And I want to say, I don't know how people get on your show, but thanks for asking for me. I mean, I'm definitely a fan of the show. So when your man reached out to my guy, I hate, I hated to say no, but I was saying, I'm not gonna be in New York for one He's like, they in Miami. I was like, well, they in Miami. I'm actually here and I was actually supposed to leave today. We say, yo, we promised Nora, you're gonna do the shows that you know what. You know, my guy, and you're my guy. So appreciate and here my guy to Kevin, can I appreciate good? Oh you got to tape. I had to get it for hip hop, for us, for what we do. That's the guy I bought that that day. Here, brother knew you he wanted to take. Trying to take. I didn't lose on the tape. On the tape, please, not on the cover. On the tape. Tap I'm gonna take on the table. You just the tree on the table, on the table and look. And since I'm a basketball and I'm drink changed sports, I bought this two thousand six six. Sell what you got? What you got? D up, I got the two thousand six I did shell toes please and thank you. Remind me he championship shell total the serious still in there and I didn't even think the bring in the box and eat this serious, feel good about yourself. So even though I'm on this, I didn't approve this. Let me tell you why, because growing up in the hood, we ate that. So after the first championship, they call us and said, we want you to be in a cover. Nope, So I told my people called Frosted flakes, frost flakes. They don't do this. So the second one no, So second championship they called us again weedies man, what you go and said nope. I told my people called fruit loops. Third championship at the front place said no, we just call again once you be in the thing, said no, called dick him smacks. It was like, that's the stuff that we that. So this's when they did the jail the NBA. They put me in d wait on the couple. But finally last year I did there with front and flakes. And I've been on five million boxes in front of pay up to so so it's frontal flakes with cinnamon balls them in balls. Cinnamon balls. That's real, that's true, cinnamon ball believe. I think. Don't you got an anties? Was the press was sold it? Damn you just be buying and selling it. That's the game. That's the game. Everything's selling, selling or profit. Holy ship, I ain't gonna lost track. I learned so much. Think they like, this podcast is gonna be for selling when they like somebody's gonna try to buy the almost tried and we almost lost and we didn't do it. Wait, wait, what do you say they almost tried, we almost lost. Try to buy yeah right, someone who take a pictures? Um take pictures and a couple of drifts and that we've got other suddn't hear radio when you're more wants Hi, my name is Shack. I'm not sounding the thing. I'm here because I want to be here to do what you're got to do. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by Yours truly, d J e f N and n O r E. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. Let's add drink Champs across all platforms at the Real Noriegon I g at Noriega on Twitter, mine is at Who's Crazy on I g at d J e f N on Twitter, and most importantly, stay up to date with the latest releases, news and merged by going to drink Champs dot com. 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