Episode 290 w/ French Montana

Published Dec 4, 2021, 12:45 AM

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only French Montana.

French talks about his "day-1" days; his 1st platinum records, becoming sober; his new album and much much more! 

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Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio and its drinks motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's agreed is your boy in O R E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. Up is d J e f N. Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast. And yet number one sorts for drunk fast drink is New year' z. That's time for drink Champs. Trink up, mother would it could be Hopeully's want to ship me to see your point? In O R what? Up is d J e f N. And it's really taming crazy war radio drink Chaps. Now, you look up the word hustler, you look up the word survivor, you look at the world, you look up the word classic, legendary. This man name would be there. I knew him from you know, the beginning, from the DVD stages. You know what I mean to the you know what I mean to the to the Him and Max Wave they started the wave. They like, let's be clear, everyone is wave riders in wave surface. But the first time y'all heard the waves with him and his homie was together. He has made countless hits, back to back to back to back to back. Every time they counted them out, he counted himself and y'all thought it was over. Yeah, you motherfucker's right now, got amnesia and he's given y'all recommeniable record. Talia. Remember the conciliation, Remember the yes. I don't know what those words mean. But the man to the left of me, he has survived. He has done everything. When people counted them out, he came back and he hits you with another one, and then when you said you couldn't do that, hit you with another one. This album is the most focused out of him, slur. I didn't him do nothing on this album but be focused Montana. His name is not French. Montana's focused Montanna. It used to be Honing Montana. Gonna get into that a little while. But in case you don't know I'm talking about, we talking about what the French French. I can't lie to you. You know I knew you throughout the whole tel This seems like the most focused you've ever been. Like I can say back in the days, you was focused getting into the game, like being focused on getting into the game. But this is this is a hard spot you at right, because you've actually made one. We've got a lot of sponsors. By the oh yeah, we're outside. Yeah yeah, just like like the first ten of our episodes. He looked at us the candle we call the at hell. You know. But but but you you made one of the biggest facts. So one of the things that I made, I'm gonna relate you to me for a second. One of the hillest things that I ever did was make super Dog. Right. When I made super Dog, it was a blessing and a curse. It was a blessing because no one made that sound. It was a curse because even though oh No came out right after that and did bigger numbers, everyone said, it's not oh no, it's not super thing. I mean, it's not super what. I thank you for thinking for me. That's how I felt. Shot caller, what shot caller? Damn you went straight into shot call I thought it we unforgivable. Nah shot caller, Okay, I mean when I when I first made shot I mean I made like chop it down a different But once I have the shot call, it was just like that's what the culture sometimes bigger than than than the charts, you know what I'm saying. So it's like when you make certain certain hit records, it's just like, you know, I don't forget why I can't. I can't perform that for example, like the tunnel was still popping like certain things. You know what I'm saying. It's like too sold for ship like that. You know I would, I would agree with you, but Jah will pull me different. When I'm watching the verses, when I see Matters the Square Garden, all them tough guys start singing you always on time, I say, holy ship, I can't believe I've seen games this like this, always on time all the time. But look at to you. So I give what you're saying. I forgive a bodshot caller. Yeah, and um, what's the um fun with me? Get a bad high? Let's let's get onto that one right now. Friends going through you know, surviving the Kardashians, you um you um, the I see you, which you're getting into later. But it's now it's coming to time to make this new album you we've had these is there two rumors of you right one that you use everybody for your single, right, and then two that you that you your sample right? What made you say when we get a back one, let me do it by myself? Well, let me bring it back to the Bronx. Made you do that? Um man? I mean first it was like the like the tenure anniversary and me dropping shot caller. Man, that's why I made sure years. So I made sure I produced it the same way like I've made sure the Horns is in the beginning, you know, just like you know New York music. Man. I had to you know, I had to get back to the essence. That's that Harry Ford of the hit Maker. Um, that's that's Harry Froud. Harry Frod shot back. Yeah, Harry Frod shot caller and stupid on the beat and young from the Bronx. He was on the umum fun with me get it back, you know what I'm saying. But most of them joints like even Pop that I remember Pop that Rest in Peace Chinks he gave me that beat. Wow, you know what I'm saying. So gave that. Yeah, it was Chins. So I'm about going to going to Ross Crib and um, I had said that the Drake Drake was in Europe and he likes nice floor. Just throw that in there. No, no, That's what I'm saying. So I want I wanted to go see Ross. Ross is working on his his album and I remember Ross did Diverse and he hit me. He hit me. He was like, yo, I want to keep pop that, you know what I mean. I'm like yeah, I'm like, yeah, bro, take it. I remember the chances in the back seat with me was like Yo, no, we're not doing that. It was like, Yo, I need my beat back if you're gonna do that. Oh he's saying this out loud of to to like me and him like arguing Danny about the fight. I'm like, yo, bro, that's a big bro. Give it to him. You know. That's how we raised. He was like, nah, I need my need my song back. So I had us like, yo, bro, I can't give you that, you know what I'm saying. So, but pop that and no stylists and records like that. But it was just you on Ross on pop that first or it was just me just you okay you sent it to Yeah, it was it was just me. You know what I'm saying. We was in the studio and that's that's how it came about. What was It was like, I don't think you know, Drake is sound crazy on this, This is not you know. That's that's how we worked. But I knew pop that would have been popped that without nobody on it. That was the lane I was going because you're coming up from the Bronx you basically like my first song was chopping down Me by myself. First it was straight cash me by myself. Chopping down me by myself? Um um um what you call it? Shot calling me by myself? Ain't worried about nothing mean about myself. That's one of my favorite thenner like when we got the pop that, I'm like, bro, that's four back to back, let me rose what you think I should do? Let me get it? So we did that. I mean from that to the No Status, there's certain joints that I had. I knew I didn't need nobody, but what's better than doing it with yours? And you got to perform pop that will all for you? Yeah, okay, I remember I gave it to um to test for Wayne. I was at a show like quartet. Yeah, when they had the CDs was popping. I'm not ye. I left the open verse for Wayne. I only had to hook you know what I'm saying. And I remember he called me a day before it went out and he was like, yo, bro um, well he just did this verse playing the play this like this, remember like that out put some chump fit. He was getting fit. And I remember I said that song to Puff and Puff was like it sounds like a good mix show record. Oh wow, I don't let your puff man. You lost it the way? What kind of right? Yeah? Yeah? Nah? In his defense, yeah, in his defense, he's a radio air. When we hear Luke, we don't hear radio Yeah. I mean, God bless me because you from Miami, you might have the total opposite opinion, but I'm not wrong, and you're you're not wrong right with neither one of them, but different from New York. When we hear Luke were like, this is not getting played? Are you the exact opposite coming from I am absolutely okay, wow, But I can see what you can see what Puff is coming from. What was like you but you think it was that's what Puff was thinking? Luke angle, Yeah, I believe so ye did you feel like it was that? I just when you pressed play on that song, it was just like it's just like it's just it's just took it to another level. And that someone went number one and you know, I called puff. I'm like, yo, bro, you're wrong. Next time, I'm make sure I won't hit you. You gotta make no noise. So so boring, all right, let's get to know worry about nothing. You just said that. It was like so appropriate at the time, Like I just I felt like everyone that was everyone's anthem. Yeah, I ain't worry about nothing, an't worry about like like what made you made Obviously he wasn't worried about nothing. But besides that, what made you go in the studio and say, you know what this this is? This is where my my frame is at um Man, I think we were just going through a period where, um I think Max b had just got locked up, you know what I'm saying. We had what was going through like a lot of turmoili and ship. So it was just like it was to the point where it's like you know when it when it forced you into that corner and you just gotta shown what you you know, what you could do. It was one of those moments how I was feeling. I was feeling like the underdog. Everybody counted me out because you gotta remember, like me and Max be had the most beef in New York at one point, so it's like when he got locked up, everybody counted me out. And that was during the process when I was making Excuse My French the album. I had just made Mac and Cheese three and we had Yeah and Sanctuary and all that joints on there. But in order for me to leave New York, I needed to make something like that was just gonna be like like a no brainer, like once you pressed play, like you don't even gotta ask none. So that's that's where we was at. Remember, had just dropped Pop That and I was getting, you know, the same the same talk that they're doing now of your French need features. It was the same talk back then. I was like, oh, yeah that after pop that pop That came first. Okay, yeah, I'm pop that came first, then the joint when Nicki Minaj came second Freaks, so there was like, oh, you can't make a joint by yourself again. That's when I hit him at work by nothing smack that at all. So let's take it to the beginning. A little bit, right. It's always these rumors of mcs from New York that dude couldn't get put on from New York or New York didn't pay attention to. The Pretty Center is probably one of the most famous of that happening too. But very next up is you and Nicki Minah. Right, Um, how did that? How was it transitioning from New York? Right? And I imagine New York wasn't give you the retention that you liked it at that time, or wasn't because because the management. Um, how did you wind up in Atlanta? Um? Well, when I came out of New York, UM first came out of the Cocaine City DVDs. You know what I'm saying. We dropped like fourteen fifteen volumes of that, and I was putting myself on on Area joint. There were did the Mac and Cheese UM series? Then me and Max be got together, you know what I mean? So I was getting the love from New York. You know what I'm saying. I was getting the love from New York CT. You know, once you start popping in New York, you automatically get Yeah, everybody know that run if you know what I'm saying if you came out of New York, Delaware, but you don't get past that, right, I think it stops like Virginia. Yeah, if you look in that time period in that time because because it jumps, it jumps from Virginia to Miami for some reason. So you missed on that had that bounce. Yeah, if to get past that, That's what I'm saying. So that that's when I made Chopper Chopper down because they had that down South bounce. You and know what I'm saying. So that that's so that Chopper Chopper downs when I made that transition to um, when I went to A t L. You know what I'm saying. So he was managed by dev yeah, right, So after after Max b got locked up, Um, that's when I dropped Shot Caller. I was on fire, you know what I'm saying. Then, Um, after that, I dropped Chopping down. Then I met with with Deb and we started management to down South. Right, So because we had on the show obviously, so of course you kind of responded to it already and h l A Leaka's freestyle. He said, back then I gave Gucci five K just to get a verse asked for my money back and still use the verse. Let's break that down. But I feel like that was feel like when I'm asking you, you kind of answered in that verse, but I want you to wait. So yeah, shot the Gucci man, you know, um, you know, me and him went through the same thing. He you know, I'm proud of his sobriety and what I'm saying, that's that's the hard thing to do. But yeah, I mean back then when um, this way before I met that, this this this was like a couple of years before I met that. I remember I was working on Straight Cash and Straight Cash was popping, and we was like, yo, we can't get this joint to leave New York, like or leave what I'm saying CT this and that imber Gucci was popping at the time. So me and my man com a couple of people over there, we went like, let's go down south, Let's get Gucci Universe. And this is after so I see obviously right, yeah, this is during the time when he had to joining with Maraya. Okay, okay, before he got locked up. Okay, okay, So it was like, yeah, we was gonna go down there and get and get Gucci on the joint. We knew, we knew my people's I think it was a little friend sheep that new goog. She was like, yo, five thousand and get diverse. How we flew down there. Um, Gucci did diverse, you know what I'm saying. Um, but I think when he did diverse, you know, Gucci was being Gucci, you know what I'm saying. So he was he was blasted. And I say when he did diverse. So the next day we heard the joint and um, I was like, Yo, I'm not funk with diverse, you know what I'm saying. So me and my man was like, yo, let's call it that and get the money back. People like the verse. So we called up who said that. Gucci said that him. My man, he was like he was called to get the money back like a hit up. Got the money back, you know what I'm saying. But then the verse ended up getting verse. Yeah, and the verse ended up getting to me not the same verse, and we just ended up putting it out on YouTube and ship like that. You know what I'm saying. But yeah, it was now like I mean like Gucha never showed me that, but love like it wasn't not like that like it wasn't like no altercation between me and him, just like he did averse. He was slearned. He was being gucci, you know what I'm saying. I just asked him, you know, for the money back. We got the money back that you know, I mean, great business and that was it. And then just moving on. So we just get off this topic. Um, yours in the works of working, y'all things out all just I mean, she took me to the court. We're in court right now, you know what I'm saying, shot the death, shot the walker, and I mean there wasn't nothing but family to me. So you know, we go, I mean, we're gonna square them off, you know what I mean. And yeah and out of court. Yeah yeah, I mean I didn't look at her like now but a mother, you know, I mean, motherfucker. So you know, I mean I can't say that bad about it. So what in your opinion, if we know the kind of you got, I think I got caught with her next week or something like. It's crazy in your opinion, what was the thing that went wrong? Um with them? Honestly, I just ain't that um moving down there. It was just like a lot of a lot of things going on around the time. Okay when you say, yeah, it was like a lot of things going on at the time, and and and and um, I think Nikki had left, Gucci had left, everybody had left, and it was just like, you know, a lot of things going on. I was just like, you know what, I think, maybe it's time time for me, you know what I'm saying. Step away and handle. See when I met when I met with Dead, I wasn't like I was fresh off like you know what I'm saying, like coke Waves and like that was the hottest thing smoking out in New York. Like I was just about to drop my album, you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't like I got with Dead or not when I wasn't nobody you know what I'm saying. And she built me up to that to that point where we're just like, okay, like like you made me French Montana, Like French Montana made French Montana. And I respected for everything that she did, you know what I mean. But it was just at the time that you know, things was going on, and she was getting left them right and this and that, you know what I'm saying. So I was like, you know, I'm gonna step out of do my thing, and I for God planning for us to get back together. We're gonna get back together. Well we hope everything worked out with that, so moving on. Boom okay, okay, alright, cool, see because I forgot to say in your intro and you like top three sniper in the game, I forgot that, like you're not theirything there your fingers like right now, let me show that out. He was knocking a lot of things down, man, I mean, I mean were drinking. So that's we're gonna get back to that. We're gonna get back You got I got mad questions, I did studies, baby, all right, all right, cool, bom okay, I've got the box, you know. So Fransk just want you to know our shows about giving people flowers. Literally we we we didn't make that phrase up, but we made it famous. So many people want to give people so much love when they they're gone up there or something happened to them. We wanted to make that known right now that whilere you alive, how dope you are, how proud I am. I see your whole struggle from the beginning until too and I can't even say to the end, because there's nowhere near the end. You're gonna keep going and going and going. So while you here, while you let why you every day, we want to give your flowers to your face, brother, and tell you face to face man and man out of eye you mean the world, tell us be fun with you and motherfucker's shout out at what the flowershower? When the flowers? I always say, what the flock? It's what the flowers? So so French? You've been on yeah, yeah, so you've been on ah a carn label. Right, Um, bad boy? Now are you all epic? Um? Well, this album I just dropped was my last album and Puff so bad boy because I can see bad Boy logo on the digital version. What I'm saying this this this, this is my last album with Puff, so I'm officially the first artist. Maybe I'm wrong to make it through trying to say shot shot my brother pup. That was my last album with him. Man, I had had a great round with my brother, you know what I'm saying, Like we did the amazing how many albums that you have to do together? Five? Five albums? Okay, okay, wow, God damna, this is so why isn't there that boy logo on there? Or is it me being blond? It is? Look, I ain't see that along. I bought the album Nigger. I ain't do the access, you know, because you already got iTunes. No, I bought the retail part. You know. I'm Buortrican talking about that the Jamaica so so friends. Right now, I'm bouncing around a little bit. One thing for short too. Things for certain about me is I always every other month I'll do like thirty days sober, right, And one of my biggest things is to change my environment when I'm sober, us when I hang around my friends like Sunny d BT and he's drinking. Yeah, so what you I'm talking about you? Yeah, in your face though behind it back, like he'll come over like he just recently. He'll come over the crib, he'll smoke cigarettes, he'll leave cigarettes and the ash trade ship stinks. Like I literally gotta like, like, I gotta maintain my relationship with him because because I'm sober, that doesn't mean I gotta change him to be so. So how do you maintain that? Like? You know what I'm saying, because from what I know, you've always been a fun guy, you know what I'm saying. So I know you're not gonna stop being a you know, fun dude. So how do you maintain that? Like? How long have you did? You? Did you do story the other day? How do you maintain going to environments like that and still you know, I mean, when you think about how much they pay you to do your job drunk, I think I think I think you snapped at whatever drugs you want or whatever you want. I think, you know, actually I think it was in Africa. Um, I knew, I knew I had to stop because it was the first time that somebody paid me for something and I returned the money because you felt you did a terrible job. No, because I felt like I was too drunk job you never did. That was my breaking point. Okay. And it's just since I started. Since I started, I never turned down the back cool, right, I mean unless it's you know, yes, terrible. Yeah, that's a terrible look. Don't like terrible backly, but definitely so. So I never turned down the back. So you know, twenty years and twenty years he said, Yeah, when I when I when I get back, when I get back some money that somebody paid me to do a video. When I went back to the hotel, I'm like, yo, I'm sick, you know what I'm saying. That's when I knew I was sick. I was like, no, I'm I'm bugging the funk out right now. So that was that was the point, and it just it just so happened to be like two or three weeks after that, I ended up and I See You because that's the first song when the happen, Yeah, it's I See You. So at first I listen to the album as if this was a skit, like if this was just something, and then I seen you on ebro you know, no, that's that's like true Story in the morning. Yeah, and then I said, whoa holy shite, Like I'm looking at this as a cinematic thing that stoped instead of looking at this as a human Yeah. So yeah, I mean the album was based on like true Story abbe you know. So it's like, yeah, I ended up in I c U and that was like puff cooling around and it was just like, you know, I just reenacted everything that happened, I think. So, so what was that after Africa? Yeah, that was after Africa when I came back you know what I'm saying. I had, I had just went to UM. I had just when I got my first, you know, over a million dollar deal, the first show I ever did for over a million dollars show. Yeah, you know, coming from the Brons some Cocaine City DVDs. Again a million dollars shows that. So that happened like the day before my birthday. So I was celebrating that I had to go. Then I had to go fly to Egypt to go do a show for the for the for the King Doughter, I think he was. She got married, You got due citizenship, right, You're like, yeah, Morocco, Morocco. And I got a green passport and blue one. I just finally got my blue on like like like three or four years ago. To be careful, yeah, definitely Joe Biden different. So yeah, So I remember I took my mother there for the first time, I for like twenty years back to Africa. So I was there for like a week. Then when I flew back, I got right into my album promo and that's when I just collapsed. And what album was this? This was Montana album two years ago. M hmm. And all right, so most people be level with you. Most people, you know, they have a little episode. They come home, they boys are smoking. But yeah, not not. The doctor told me if I drink, I'll die. No, I didn't know that. Yeah, but I was liver like was completely fucked up. Yeah, my ship really disconnected. So that's how much my ship wireless? So that's how much like damage? Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean it was going hard bro for like for like years, like it was going hard hard, like you know what I'm said. I never sniffed no coke. I never did, not like that was I mean, we're come from the Bronx, like you know, you know, anybody sniff coke was like crackhead. Anyway. What I'm saying, I'm just popping pills, perks, addies and drinking and when you mix both of them combinations together and just take a toll on your liver and your kids. What I'm saying, yeah, because you know, because you know, like the adderals, you think you could drink bottles of liquor and ship like the white kids take the study so the ad Yeah, yeah, don't get a blunt. Yeah that's what the white kids take that. Yeah, So it's like you take it the drink to be able to handle your liquor. But you don't know when that adderal wear off your blackout? Wow, you know you don't remember nothing that Yeah, so you don't be remembering ship that happened. I'm saying, so you keep taking addies and drinking when that ship were off your blackout? So um. Also, you said in a rhyme, well let's stay on this for a second that I'm I'm so and it's never tempting, like how long you've been sober? Like no, relax two years? And I gotta apologize to you because last time I saw your turk goes, I did not know you was so And I'm like to take a shot with me. Friends, you're looking at her and hear the horse person be around, so just like relaxed and I'm like, no, my favorite drinking partner, what's wrong with it? And I don't know? So everybody, and everybody's looking at me like come out, and I'm like hold some ready lit and I'm like, Noah for something like this, I'm wrong. The French like I'm thinking it's me. I'm like I'm not. I'll switch to drink. Tell them what episode I gotta apologize. He woke up to me and hit me dumb haart on my chest. I did where But I don't want to admire and commend commend that because you know, to go from one extreme and go to extreme it's something really really hard to you understand that because I know, I know some of my friends, you know from the hood that doctors had told him the same ship. They waited two weeks and just just like fuck it and we're gonna just you know, like bump the funk out like and and slipping to this fucking day. Like you know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta They're not They're not the hardest ship to do. Yeah, you stuck with You're taking with it. Yeah, and you feel it. Is it feeling good? Yeah? I mean you experience every high, Okay, you know what I'm saying. You max out every every like, every experience and every feeling and every motion. You experience it, and you experience it with no filter. You know what I'm saying. There's there's no better high at this point in my life than that. It's fine, you know what I mean, Like, that's a high for me because before it was just I was just you know, running through whatever situations, running through whatever deal was, running through whatever, you know what I mean. It's just like you remember the whole thing, like like like like one day, you know what I mean, Like I appreciate the moment. Now I can actually experience the wind, I could experience the loss. I know how to bounce back. I remember how, you know, But it might not be like that for everybody. Know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's real ship, real ship. I commend that I staid moving on because you knocked a lot of chicks down, So he's gonna I lived by curious to you, I've been married and ship. But when I vicariously not by curious, he knew what I meant. He knew when I mean a teacher. All right, are you ready? Okay, I'm not even ready. It's not even the game yet. All right, we got the games? Yeah? Are we doing the games? Okay? Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, I got wild questions. I got wild questions. Hold on, okay. Yeah, the wall will post Malone and Cardi by because because you know, I'm from the nineties, so most of the time in the nineties, I pictured records with people being in the studio together. Was this one of those records that you was in the studio together? You had this so well I knew um, I knew Dred London like me and him. Oh yeah, I used to get um, I just get I wanted him Drey London, That's what I'm saying. I was like, I used to live in Edgewater. Man, I used to go to let's just throw it out. He's sing, let's not you know every now. I didn't let me get a little top, my baby, my bad. So it was crazy because I used to live in the Bronx back back back at that time. So every time I wanted to get away when she got too hot, you know what I'm saying, I used to just you know, drop up to his crib and just stay, you know, I mean stay, stay over the night, stay a couple of days, you know, when Rock cott with him. So you know we had that relationship. If I'm not mistaken, I named him London. So wow. So so that's that's how far back I knew him, like over ten years. So when he got when he got a post, it was just like, you know, it was bound to happen, you know, because we was you around when he said he was going to l A. He was like, I'm going to l A. I'm leaving all this ship. Yeah. I was like, you'd be back in two weeks now. He was a hustling. He was like, I knew he was gonna get something done. Yeah, because he was. He was definitely a hustler. And he came to l A. He found when he found Post. He was bringing Post over and I'm saying like, yo, let's do it together, this and that, you know in French Montana was just being French Montana. Wait a minute, who you trying to say? That's too slick to trying to say you had a chance to be Yeah, I'm sure I had a chance to do it. Could have signed him, you could have signed Post my loan. I mean, I'm sure I would have adventured with him saying to do it together. You know, you know Dre, Dre is a hustler. I would have had, you know, be partner, you know, many partners and do it. But definitely had a chance. I had a chance to do a lot of things that I wasn't ready for. And one relic you said you gave you Dirk, you gave him what else he said it was. It was a lot of people, man, that just you know, I mean, we didn't understand that I got I got d m s from NBA, young boy, I got like things from like you know a lot of people. You know. But it's just when you don't have the time for these artists and you can't give them what they deserve for themselves at the time. You know what I'm saying. I feel like, you know, you shouldn't have signed. Nobody would have been selfish. Yeah, so what do you mean when you said we gave I gave y'all dirty? Um, I mean, you know Harry Fraud, Chinks, Dirk. You know what I'm saying, Like Dirt is like my little brother. Like I looked at Dirk, look at Chinks. You know what I'm saying, Like Dirk made Dirk. You know what I'm saying, Chinks made Chinks. Harry Fraud made Harry Fraud. But it was it was a point of time with Dirk when um, you know, when def jam dropped the ball and what I'm saying, like he was a superstar, you know, I mean, Derek always been a superstar my eyes. And know what I'm saying. So and I used to love Dirk. He's just you know, real quiet used to come through and just crazy talented. And I was just like, yo, man, I don't know how def Jam fumbled the ball. Well let's go, let's rock, Let's go a little bro, let's hit the road. This and that body was on tour bringing in Mouth Chicago. We're doing songs. I'm the Coke Boys on fire at the time, doing mix tapes boom boom through them, like two mix tapes. He had that that the saying what you want My body was like woke up raw. So I'm like, yo, bro, you gotta do a verse family on his on his remix and what I'm saying, throw them on paranoid on my joint, like yo, puff, you gotta jump. So just like at the time, I'm like, yo, the world need to him, you know what I'm saying. So that's exactly what we did. And you know, introduce him, you know what I'm saying, reintroduce him because death Jam didn't do the right thing. So that's what I was saying. I was just sounding to do something to the world him. Chinks Harry fraud um man, it was, it was, it's you know, it's a bunch of people. But I just you know, I came from the era where when I came out with a New York minute. I remember going to Yon Kiss and going to see Kiss and and you know, Kiss giving me my first verse, and I always say this and that and that meant more to me than any big feature I get right now, because that was the time where I really needed you know what I'm saying. So I always try to be that that perfect example for any artist that's coming up. That's all when when Schmurder Soon came out and jumped on and so I like, welcome to the party. Pop smoke. That's like, you know most of the records, and I'm thinking pop smoke on the album too. Yeah. Definitely, anybody that's coming up out of New York, I always trying to, you know, give him that same feeling that Kiss gave me when I was first coming up. You know what I'm saying, right because I remember, yeah, I remember you jumping on Bobby Smurder. Yeah, definitely know what I'm saying. So because I was just you know, I always used to be I always used to be frustrated coming out of New York when I was a young artist. I'm like, you know, jay Z, don't do nothing when they is like now, I don't do that. When they're like certain, they'll be like damn. Then you know. When I got that that verse of kids, I was like, I'm gonna be like him, you know what I mean? So is that how you start working for Fabrio? Um? Yeah? Five year or two? You know what I mean? All of them man be trying to grab You know what is that New York underground music? Cause it you can't call drill. We can't call it drill. Then call it. That's what they call it. What they call it, yea, they can't change it. Yeah, that's what they call it to nil. So I don't know that's getting big. That's the biggest It's different, Like because drill. When I think a drill, I think I should call Yeah. When I see what they're doing in Brooklyn and the young homies in the Brons and call them, I feel it's a version of that. But I feel like New York needs their own name because I know I know they're from you know what I'm saying from Dreamart. When I hear ship, like when I hear you no drill, it's called Drill, Drill and the Old Block and I hear these other Saturday Night Street. I know that that's something that's over there, you know what I'm saying. So you do you think that because like you like like kind of the kind of one of the kings of like Drill New York. I not only did like two songs that was Drill, but you know, Drill is like crypto. MM, I don't know, what do you mean, Let's get into Drill. Let's get Yeah, Drill is just like something new that you know what I'm saying that that that everybody you know, it's fucking and it's something that's not familiar to the hip hop. It's like it's not familiar to the you know, to the regular dollar you know what it's not. It's not the same sound, it's not the same flows. It's totally opposite of what hip hop is, you know what I'm saying, as far as the beasts and everything. But it's like a London thing that you know London too, Yeah, you know you know that's like it's it's the biggest scene in London. Yeah, you know what I mean. So, but shot to the Bronze, the Bronx isn't heavy on it right now? Shot the d thing and I'm shot um shot. I mean Brooklyn too. I mean I feel like, you know, it's the biggest scene in New York right now. Who who's the hottest new dude coming out of New York right now? French Montan in opinion, you're gonna be watch what you said coming out coming out right now. That's young signed, that's not signed. D thing? What d thing? Yeah from the Bronx, from the Bronx, D Thing Okay, drill okay, drill, yeah, deep thing. I'm gonna look out for him. What's your affiliation with c J? Um c J when he when he was first popping, if you know, I keep my head to the streets and I'm like, yo, you know, I like I like the music. I head of James Cruise, and James Cruise like like like you want and I'm like, yeah, I want to, you know, come in and help out. And you know, we just made something happen. And I jumped on the remix and he's on Epic two. Nah, he's on one. Okay, that's right. Yeah, so you jumped into remix and yeah, we made that marriage happen. Okay. So he's like, I mean no, no, that my executive produces first First Vibe. It's fine, Yeah, that's fine. Okay, Um what's the affiliation with Row? Some were speaking more about Royals Eliott back in the days were you made back music. Yeah, okay, I mean, um, Rose, me and Rose was just you know, I had a bomb and like, you know, it's just like a big bro you know what I'm saying. Shot to spif here somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. When he called me, yeah like yeah, like he rich He's out there stress this flight you're richt. Yeah, I'm sorry. So, um so this is a story I never told about about the whole Row situation. Um. So I'm a spiff spiff at him and he was like, Yo, Rose, want to want to meet you, and um came down there. That's when I met him. He's like, Yo, jump on his record, jump on his record. I'm like, yo, yeah, New York, okay, New York. Yeah, so jump on his record, jump on his record. Boom. After that we had worked on May Back music album. Then he jumped on Chopper Chopper Down remix. You know what I'm saying. So we had shot the video. Rose such a hustle moving down, went down and see him. He knocked out the verse. He was like, we should do the video. I'm like, yeah, I'm thinking, like you know, next week he went upstairs through a jacket on. He's like, who going to the backyard? Yeah, SPI filmed in the backyard. Helicopter behind him and everything. New York and this is in Miami because New York don't got backyards. Yeah, definitely not so so. So that's how hard you know my boy was going. It was right there the same time versus in video, you know what I mean? So you know, I you know, I got on fire, so um, you know that, plus everything I had going on, it was just you know, French Montana time after can't get your fake watch? Ye, I'm still wearing fake one? What kind of fake watch did you get you? I just want to be clear. It was it was it was you just can't he ever get me a gift? It was, But you know, I mean, mistakes like that could happen. You know what I'm saying. I think, Um, probably did Julia did give him a fake watch? Did he ever tell you that? Because you give me some fake ship? Yeah? Yeah, I need the whole explanation, like how do we get here? Who do you go see? I need to see anything I need for seats? Did you d up like that? Yeah? I mean that type of drill music right there? Yeah, I'm when I mean the best thing he ever gave me was an opportunity first, you know what I'm saying, because that was that was big, you know, so it wasn't fake busters out back then? So how did you get knocked? Like? No, that's what I'm saying. Shortly, I didn't Yo, you ain't right out here? Nah? You know you know back then, you know the things that mean the most is that to me was like you know, I stop, I stopped watching. You know what I'm saying, Like we wasn't rocking. Like now you got to get the rich cheese. You get to you blow like you don't even know ice. But back then, as soon as I got it, I wouldn't straight to my jeweler. I'm like, y'all want to trade this in? Hold on friends, foul, hold on trading again. You can't be trading again friends? Yeah, I mean, yeah, you know what's fake? He goes giving away? Nah, But that's what I'm saying. You when I was like, Yo, I want to want to trade it in for something bust down. And my jeweler was like, yo, like you're trying to get me a song? He thinking in or yeah, yeah, thinking I'm in on the twist. So I'm like, yo, traded in for me? And he was just like, man, my dog, this ain't it. I'm like, I'm like what you mean? And he was like, you know this is this is you know the same right sothing like your acorn gave me? Gotta be right? What's the white girl? Yeah? Yeah, now lady, he give the lady. I ain't gonna lie that different man. Now. The ellish about the whole thing is that he made me close my eyes. It was my birthday. It was like Max, me and Max and Gobby shot think GOV shot the big job. He was like, yo, clothes, y'alls I gotta get for you. You know. I closed my eyes too, man. That's that's that's what that's that's what I hurt the most. Yeah, just like you made me close my eyes. Let's fake and I never forgive you. So I did you look at me back to watch or do you even take it? How does man? He made me close my eyes for the joint man. Okay, so but you you look at it, you thought it was I thought you can't giving you a watch at that time, You're not thinking, you're thinking this is like got it cose like a buck fifty it t under or something like I'm gonna go get something else for it. This and that, you know, you know it was. It was a thought that counted what I'm saying. So I went down there. I gave it to him, you like, not saying it. So I called calling him like, yo, bro here, telling me to join in it, telling me it ain't. So it was like, what you mean, hold on, let me call then get I sold him to me, man, I think he saw me some fake watches. I'm like, we'll do that. Call me back, like so we just switch it out and I'm still waiting. I did not think that was going to be the story. I'm still but you know what though, and you know, an offense to a calm man, no, I don't want to throw them under the bus because they do, you know, make move like that happens then m little baby right, yeah yeah, yeah I saw something like that. Yeah definitely, but you know, so they can catch your slipping, you know, what I'm saying, It's very true. But I'm a petty nigga. I would have been all that nigger concerts. You've got different places every time, you got different places every time I see That's the one thing I get him. Every time I see him be like, Yo, my watch, He's like you want this one? Like nah, but I don't want to see me something with the paper with the eyes of trust you. Yeah, but you know when I like when I was first coming up doing the Cocaine City DVDs and I was like on volume six or seven and me but God used to be playing my music and I'm Acorn just you know, calling me up to sign me, and you know what I'm saying, and you know, me coming up just like you know, rapping, like not knowing if it's gonna work or not. Then you just get signed by Acorn while he had Lady Gaga. That was more of a present for him to get me than not watching what I'm saying. So I always appreciate him, and I always you know saying, look at him as a big brother. And he got he got a city to tom Building. Just give me check that the place to watch trade. Yeah, definitely shot do you watch Versus? Yeah, I know you want. Tory Lane did like a fool gaze. Yeah, it was like a full gaze verse yeah, really like yeah, like did you know he was going to wash room like that? Yeah, but I didn't even know. I was like, damn, friends, you kept going, you mean sitting there at one point like yeah, somebody slapped the phone at his hand. So yeah, now we was the first one actually to start versus. You know what I'm saying, because because I'm now I did. We did. We did as far as as far as rappers going at it, were the first one. There was nobody before me and Tory Lane. You mean one, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean because they were they I called Swiss up and I called Timberland. I'm like, yeah, I want you to judge this because they was doing some beat stuff, because why you didn't do it through Versus, because that's you know what I'm saying that we didn't do it through Versus, but they didn't have no platform. Yeah, it was all I g yet first. Yeah I didn't I didn't see that. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what he's saying, because it was doing it was doing the producer stuff. So I remember I was supposed to do That's how the whole idea came about. I was supposed to do quarantine radio Tory. So I'm like, yo, bro, instead of doing quarantine radio, let's do this versus thing. So we were supposed to do the quarantine joint and I was like, he was do the verses and he was like, no, I'm a watch you. I'm like what so you know what I'm saying. So you know, we got it together and we just did did over the the Vibe and that that was the first one. After that, it was just you know, it got bigger and bigger. But shot the Bobby too. So what'd you from trailer? Yeah? Okay, who the slot it out there? You know what's going on? French? Maybe's going on? Definitely so you watched verses. Yeah, it's gonna be a two part question. M h. I don't want to start no ship. I gotta asks. Yeah, who would you want to battle in? First? Man? I think I go to anybody. I know, let's cliche kind of answer. I want to be particular who would I go? Who you feel like you match up your music, the personalities or whatever, because like anybody, man, I mean when you talking about versus man, You're just talking about twenty songs. You know what I'm saying. I don't feel like I think people like like like just take it too serious. I feel like we're talking about bringing is like when you fight in the boxing rain, it doesn't matter what you what your record is about, who who walks out with the w You know what I'm saying, It's like people, because none of that gonna mean that once you take this lt like if Floyd take that one, l is gonna sunk up guy. And He's what I'm saying. So when you go up in that stage, it's twenty songs and twenty songs. I don't care what type of catalog you had. I don't care what type of live show you got. I don't care none of that. We're gonna go song for song, song for song. And I feel like I could go against anybody with that, but you don't. You don't. You don't have somebody in particular like and it's been changing the song for something because it has been a stage presents thing lately. It has been a schage present. I agree with that. Yeah, I mean like like like in the past one past one or two and know what I'm saying. Yeah, but it's still it's still about your twenties songs though. So you saw how powerful twenty songs is when you saw Job would do it. So who did you pick between Job one, Fat Joe? Me? I picked? I picked um both first hip hop one, but I just like it. I'm from the Bronze, what I'm saying, I'm I'm from the Bronze. And and and you know, I grew up on Fat Joe and bign like big punties to come to my block and play us the big you know, punishing, you know what I'm saying, and all that. So I grew up on Fat Joe and it was and it's more like it was more streaked for me, I'm what I'm saying. So, so who did you go with the dip set persons? Who did you? Who was your money on? You had the back before um Man? Honestly, I was a fan of both, you know what I'm saying. I was a fan of both. I feel like a lot of people didn't like a lot of people didn't didn't see that. And that's another perfect example of your best twenties songs. You know what I'm saying, because it's like dip Set. I mean, dip Set was out like like the generation after the Block, you know what I'm saying. So it's like people agree with that. Yeah. So it's like you know, THEMB having that that extra ten years, fifteen years on them, it was just you know what I'm saying, that's that's that's why they want people no one, no one. It was actually the underdogs. Yeah, Like there's actually because because if you look at it and it took place in Massion Square Gold and if you look at it like dips that had a bigger movement in New York. When you forget that, they will even get the losses on bad Boy. Bad Boy has never been a New York thing. It's always been kind of like, al this is what I'm saying. They got they got joints, what you know, off off Life after Death, bro, Like they got joints off like they kind of love it so crazy. I think, Yeah, I think that's the only way they had a little a little up on on on on dip Set, you know what I'm saying, And they and they you know, and it was I don't know, I think, man, I like both O. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't think that the Locks was gonna prevail. No, I mean I didn't. I didn't think. I didn't see it coming like that. I didn't see Again, back to what you were saying with the stage presidence, I forgot how ill Jada is like when it comes to the quarterback and something like. I just totally forgot till he was doing it. But that's the story of the underdogs though always. Man, That's why the underdogs always win because they unexpected. You know what I'm saying, never expect. You know what I'm saying, The underdog win. That's on somebody. Just you know what I'm saying to two out there, like you know, so friends against Jim Jones, who's winning versus you gotta actually Jim that I'm actually you here shot the gym. But I don't know. I think I got him, all right, all right, all right, let me think of somebody else. Huh yeah, Jim, Yeah, Jim got some ship. I think that I think it's your history. Yeah, you know it's obviously it wasn't Gucci Man and Jeezy, but you know, um that moment when they did you know what I mean, at the end of so I see. Um. I thought that was a special moment. I think when y'all shot that video in the city and I think you said you'll shut down a bridge or something that was shut down a bridge. I actually I want to say, I shut a thug till I want to. I want to sat there and I just looked at the footage and I was just like, because one, I didn't see it coming at all, you know what I mean. And I know your brothers both folk with y'all both, and it was just like, damn, this is what the city needed. It was like it was like almost perfect time, you know what I'm saying. So that's the reason why if I think of a versus, I think that's almost a great opponent because of the history. And yeah, I just think that Nowaday's beef is different between how how how we was. It wasn't on social media like that I'm saying. If there was anything, and there was DVDs that come out every six months for you to catch a recap of everything. But I remember, you know, us, us trying to run down on Jim, him trying to run down on us. It was just like a back and forth thing like we was going through like real situations and that place wasn't even be a beef. Yeah you know what I mean, but you know it's my dog, and it was just like you know, it was in it and it was like a lot of people on his side that was guilty by affiliation and a lot of people on our side, you know what I'm saying. And and and you know that that day was special because it was like a hundred fifty over there hunting fifty over here people that all had beef just because with all started when everybody met, it was like a hunting guns. It was like about shows, Jim. It was right down the street and why I got shot at, you know what I'm saying. So it was just like so it was just like everybody was just like put their g They're like alright, man, my nigger man were then then then then everybody's connecting just like you know, it felt good because a lot of you know, we missed out on a lot of money, We missed out a lot of things that we could have made, you know, history together and I'm saying made the culture even better, but we wasted the ten years. Was Max be aware of y'all squashing it? Yeah? I would have never did nothing unless unless I spoke the Max first. You know what I'm saying, Like I spoke to Max and Max is like, yo, I man fighting for my life. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like I'm fighting for my life. I ain't gonna beat for Jim, you know. And I was shot and I remember when I did it. Um Jim had did an interview after and he was like, fuck Max, And I called Jims like, yo, bro, you know what I'm saying, like, let's just keep that. Wait, so you're saying after you and Jim, Oh, I didn't know I was Jim crazy. So right after this Verdi interview, y'all squashed. After the video as well, After the video as well, someone asked Jim Jim, and I was just like, yo, Brontio, until y'all figure it out. You know what I'm saying, They just keep the medio if I asked, you know, I mean all that because I was just went through like ten fifteen years a beat man shot at the gym man. You know, you know it was it was you know, that was a real solid move from his side and my side. You know what I mean about it? Feel like he's fighting for his life and jim My head and also it doesn't make no sense that the bee doesn't make sense right, It's a somewhat you know. And I'm bouncing around a little bit. Like the other day I've seen Soldier boy um reacting to um young dog. Yeah, and and it's death and to me it was like, you know, definitely rest in peace. Um. But I was like, I didn't think it was appropriate for him to like comment on it after, you know what I mean, like when what's his death and likes the post it's doing years and life, Like I feel like that's that's at the end of the day, we're entertaining, Like you know what I'm saying, it's real ship that's involved, and we've be involved with real ship. But we gotta stop. We gotta stop and just smell the fucking ros. It's like, well, we're entertainers to a certain extent, let's just just be such so, um, how do you think that is a way to rectify Max and jim ship? Um Man? I mean, all I could do is try my best, you know what I'm saying. All I can do is trying my best. And it's just like you know, when you look at Dolph and look at key Lock and you look at um like let's say big and puff you look at me, and Chinks you look at I can give you about ten twenty different examples, you know what I'm saying. It's like, you know, if they don't take their head, they take the right arm off you. It's a known fact. This what's been happening forever and hip hop. It's that little gap in between you're trying to make it until you making it that a lot of artists don't know how to handle. That's like a real turbulence period of time. It's like that bridge and just like it's a hard bridge to cross because you know, I almost lost my life when I got shot in back of my head and and and you know what I'm saying, and Chinks lost lost his life and what I'm saying, then you know there's certain people that in fifty almost it's just like you either you're gonna make it out of that situation that God're gonna put you in front of. If you're a gangster rapper, you know what I'm saying, If you come from when you come from where I come from, it's gonna be something that's gonna either take life was gonna make you who you is, and I feel like, you know, it happens to everybody. So when I be trying to set an example, like as far as Max and this is that like we passed all that because that situation happened to us, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, bro, like and and you're doing seventy five. You know what I'm saying, Jim home making money, So like, what is the reason? Yeah? God, but you know it's crazy. You and Max y'all the first that's the horny niggers. By the way, that just y'are the first dudes that I ever knew that new porn stars names. Like I feel if people just watch I'm in the motherfucker w Hotel and these things come to the hotown and they're like, Yo, you ain't see Roxy Normy, And I'm like, who the funds you're talking about? But they're saying it like it's a regular check. So I'm like, okay, They're like, yeah, if Roxy brendles, and I'm looking like, I don't know who the fun Roxy. So she came down the elevator. This is what I knew she was a big bit because all the hotel workers from the w like I see rinds looking like, oh said, but you actually, I swear to god, I never knew like the names to porn stars. I just you type in black porn or Latino and like I didn't know like Nika, Like you could tape in a chick name and hush Shi, Come on, it was u Cherokee is a bunch of It was more than what I was a bunch of like hood stars. Yeah, I didn't know about now Yeah, yeah, I think it was to Max. I think it was his birthday. I think it was his birthday. I was like, yo, I got them for you words. How did you shot? My Space shot the Penthouse peaks like my Space days that we had met them out somewhere. I think we met them out somewhere. I forgot how we met how how dose people? How did you meet a porn star? I've probably like the event somewhere I met point stars with you, great friend you are with me? Yeah, remember having you know, and they've been having their conventions in um in Vegas. Okay, so you go to the point if it's said, well, I probably went like one time. Okay, I probably went like one time when I was in Vegas, extasy involved when you okay, no, it's definitely access involved. When when they came over the crib, Roxy Wins came from the crib. Yeah, Max birthday, Yeah how does this happen? So it was his birthday? And I was like his birthday, you know what I'm saying, And and and him just put it like this. Him and Roxy Reruntal still talk to this day that she had me the other day, like your friend Max trying to call you. I'm like, all right, you know I had a conversation once and I said, I asked, I said, why do niggers like porno stars? Right? Because you literally know she's a whole, like like you know there's other ticksie you heard she's oh you heard she gave a good one, but you don't really know. But she famous though, so yeah she famous. It was like imagine Max's watching his joint like she was like, you know when the Grammy win, the actress fim like actress fim. So it's like it's not even about the rag, It's just about you know what I'm saying, for like being part of history. Like at that time, love that was Max's body in jail right now, Like yo, Roxy Reynolds was like, so, like I said, I was asking somebody and the person said, well, point stars get tested all the time. They're basically actually cleaning, actually cleaning. And I was just like, oh ship, that ship sucked me up because they made it make sense. But I was like, this doesn't make sense anyway. But y'all was the first two niggas said holy ship. Max max Be definitely made her famous. Yeah, I think I think. I think he had like a rap and everything. Like when he was saying some ship, I said, I see that good lie, And I said, Max is like he just made a hook. I was like, I need that hook anyway, I'm moving on. At one point, you and fifty were cool, Yeah, what the funk happen? Man, let me tell you something me. I have no problem with fifteen or more. After he dropped his BMF joint, that's my favorite ship had shot alright? Cool? Yeah, yeah, every everything is over after BMF. That's the best work. That's it's that good. Yeah. Just seeing empowered book too. He had um left frack in it, so uma. So yeah, you know he's he's like the gurgle of television. He like the gangster Tyler Perry right now, think that way. Yeah, that's top same like think about it. That's Tyler Perry type of ship. You. Um, so you're gonna work this out? Yeah okay, I mean I was down. He's the core un come. I mean, you know from New York. Bro, like you come outside, you're gonna snap on the one day you're gonna snap on each other. And it's not it wasn't that like not physical like nothing like you know, it wasn't not that like we got beef over. Nobody got shot like nothing like that shot the fifty man. I actually love his music. I want him to drop another album, like that's what's up? What's up? Big man? You know I was I was there. You got locked up? Remember that day? You think it's had me at East New York loose They found like forty guns, right, God, that was died. Listen Yo, Yeah we're shooting um tribute video changing change die and hip hop police just pull up. Oh your heir's clean king ping thing thing thing. We're looking around the guns dropping and my dumbass throwing weed. Never I'm looking like I'm throwing weed. I'm shaking it I'm just like for instead, like that was crazy. That was New York. Holy, I said, what a video about? It's like Brooklyn. I was like, alright, cool, and I can't. I said, this is where my cousins. Never trust a camera man, never shooting, never, never trust the right. And they shut the video down, shut the video down. Yeah, so many up, so many killers in there. It's crazy these somewhere else because we're just like, you know, we're like, yo, Change just died, Like we're gonna do a tribute video, like invite everybody that you know us to you know, Change and this and a hm. So you know, we we just started shooting them on shot. The jowels came, you know, I mean a lot of people came. Rules, Ja rules everybody. Yeah. So it's like it was one way any one way out. Yeah. I don't even think it was a way out. Yeah, my first to be away. Somebody turn around, like everyone dies. If someone comes to spaces, just we gotta shoot the way out. There's own God. If police didn't come, somebody got shot. But I ain't gonna lie. It was good energy. It really was good energy. It was it was really the police that suck that one up, and I'm gonna tell you who I thought it was. It was a lady in the window, and I've seen someone put something under the car tire and I think the ladies seen that just assumed she was correct. Fund forty guns in that. That was so New York. How can when you have a hit record and you outlet, they'll still be like, well, New York can't out there, man, because New York never showed love to New York. Damn, I hate that that statement. It's so true. Yeah, New York never never showed love. I think we're getting over it now. It's better now, Yeah, definitely. I mean we're definitely in the better space. But I think it's from back then. Yeah. It also goes for new artists too. It's like, you know what I mean, like you have to prove yourself, like you know, have to be like at least five ten years in the game for me to really be like, yo, you gotta spend this bro, like that's what I do for a living, you know what I mean, Like you gotta get a cross, like a certain barrier for you to just you know what I'm saying, to get that respect from New York, which is like you know, like when I came from Africa, like it was, it felt like the mecca of hip hop. Like it was just like you know, Chicago, I'm saying, Chicago Bowls and ninety like you know ninety five when John was playing cool. You know. I mean because like you know, you look down the street, you got big punty. You look down the street. You got you know, you gotta slick rick up the block. You got you know careresswan you go, you know mc sham like the whole history. So you kind of respect where they come from with that, you know what I'm saying, Like they're gonna be hard on you. I mean, unless you go up there and flex tent freestyle. You can make a hit record, You can make a feature record. Your performance, Like the way they look at it is different than any other city, state, country, look at it. You gotta be all around. You gotta be like Oscar Robinson, like no floors and like and and and you're joining like you gotta triple double, you know, Atlanta, Miami CALLI you know, so I feel like you make one hit record. You know what I'm saying, Like you out of here, you know what I'm saying. If you come out well multi him recause, then you know you're the start at that city. But New York, you're not just gonna You're not just gonna be able to make a record and get out of New York like He's not. Don't work like that, man, It's it's it's it's too much going on. And yeah, you can't know what I'm saying, so they're hard on you, but you know they made some of the biggest artists that ever came out. What I'm saying from you TONI to go, yeah, yeah. We recently was talking about Young Dolf earlier and you know what happened to Young rest in peace. But one of the statements that I actually it's crazy that you you say that is the day that we interview Young dolphs the day to Chinks died. That's the reason why I brung up Chinks. I don't know if you've seen the vibe of video of me telling Young Dolph that I was telling them and he literally says to me it had nothing to do with him. He goes, I go like, yo, you know, just be careful. You know people are dying in the city, and he goes, you ain't got nothing to do with me. And I was just like, damn, you know, because it hurt me when he said that, because I know that these cameras is around, and I wanted to give a little bit more O T advice, But I also wanted to, like, you know, like him to live his truth. But do you believe that? Like I mean, I want to city everyone from there, Sit Kyle with me, my God with me. I remember I was telling him Pop Smoke the same thing. Well, I kept preaching to him in the studio to Kyle. You know, Kyle was blasted. He was just like, yo, Bro, stopped preaching to him. These geniors don't care. I'm like, yo, bro, Now I gotta tell him he ain't here. He don't know how big he is. He ain't got no security with him. And Pop Smoke is a little different because Pop Smoke might listen to your advice. Yeah, I'm saying this should happened in l A. That's That's what I'm saying, pop smoking. Pop Smoker ain't have no no security with him. So I'm not, yo bro, how you out here? He had his brother with him, his brother just like yo bro, like you can't be out here like that, Like like he was just happened to change, so give him, give him the whole rundown. He was like, no, I feel you old, you know, so I stopped preaching. So so when that happened, I'm like, you see, like you know what I mean, Like why you gotta keep like putting this like in these kids head? So you just have like I said, is that is that little space man before you become when you're gonna become. What I'm saying, it's like everybody, everybody get caught up in that in that in in that tornado sometimes. But that's how I feel about the city though. That's when I'm asking, Yeah, any city you from, I feel like, you know, it always comes, you know what I mean, it always comes. Like me, It's just it's just drama, man, It's just drama that you prefer to live out of the city. You prefer to live out of the city. No, I mean, I still I still got a spot in New York, you know what I'm saying. But I just that's just how That's just how I look at beef and that overall and drama and this and that. I feel like having beef is like being a handicapped break that down. No, you handicap. You can't make no moves, you can't handle your business, you can't do nothing that I feel like, you know you just you know you handicap when you just beat from everybody. Just you know what I'm saying, When you got drama where we come from, when we come from, it's just like, you know, I got to dudes doing seventy five years, I got, you know, saying Penthouse to be about to come home. He's doing I mean twenty years, fifteen years, something like that. You know, it's just it's just, you know, it's real situations and real like things outside of social media that you gotta there with a different world, you know what I'm saying. So any type of drama is just never made sense in this we're going, yeah, from going to places from you know, so being a handicapped is a perfect way to explain it. Why would you not be able to move? Honestly, that drama was always like being for people that's coming up. Yeah, like you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, we made l A l A. I've never been to l A l A l A. I was just trying to get out the fucking Yeah, you know what I'm saying, But when it comes is my favorite place to go. You know what I'm saying, But dramas for people that's coming up. You're getting a lot of money, You really getting money. You don't give a funk about defense, And that's that's the furthest thing you're thinking about it. Yeah, definitely. So what's your favorite part of the game getting the record or performing the record? Um? My favorite part probably making the record? Making it? Yeah, like describe that making it like, um, like knowing is like no one that hits it hit before before you put it out and be and bend your last dollar on it. What I'm saying, it's like there's there's there's certain stages you go through that's performing the record is like all you gotta do is get a record, play a couple of times. You know what I'm saying, people will hear it, and you know, people are gonna recite whatever they're here on radio a lot of times. There's a lot of records that you don't like that if you hear enough time on radio. And that's what I'm saying, So like making making making the record is always special because nobody can do what you do you know what I'm saying. When you go in there, you're like, how can I take you know, this and this and this and slap them together and just like come up with this hit, you know what I'm saying. So just like so when you do that and you and you and you get that, hits a certain feeling that you know that no other you know what I'm saying, money can't even give you because now it's like you're tapping into drinking the water. You know what I'm saying. It said somebody giving you the water that you just just you know me if you found a river, definitely making a song for sure, which one is your favorite? Oh I'm I'm, I'm I'm upping up. Yeah, well right now I ain't making a record, so right maybe is talking. But okay, So one thing that we noticed about this album. We look at all the other albums, all the other mixtapes, there's one guy that's on there all the time. We also do our due diligence to do the research. The rumor says the guy doesn't want to be out there now because of the Travis Scott situation, what happened with Astra World. I say that to say if that's the excuses, I don't know. This is you all here say, I don't know. I mean, you ain't have no side conversation. But I said it to say, does it feel kind of funny because you see him out of the future party? You see him in Let's see what club with two Chains? I love this club? How do I don't know? The wings are phenomenal. Well in Atlanta, the wings are phenomenal. I'm that serious to the wings are actually good. Um, what's the ship? No? Not Magic City? Yeah? Honess? Is it only here? Honest? Yeah? So we see him, we see we see Drake as we're talking about obviously, we see Drake out with two chains. Uh, we see him have a party with Dave Chappelle. The statement that they're saying is that he didn't want to be on the album because of what's going on? Um is that true? Or yeah? Yeah, that's I mean, that's that's very true. I mean. And at the end of the day, me and Drake, you know, I was like my brother brother, what I'm saying. So, so it's just it's just it's unfortunate man that that happened, you know what I'm saying. And and and the guy gotta live his life, you know what I'm saying, like like go out this and that. But and honestly, the record wasn't even fully done yet. Oh wow. Yeah, the record wasn't fully done and we still we still had to change a couple of things in the record, and he was telling me to push the album back. And what I'm saying, so I have the record, but I had the album done. It was like twenty other tracks on there because I think it. Yeah, so you know, I was just like, I'm gonna drop the album. Then you know, I'm gonna wait until you ready, we just drop another album, would just drop the song. I didn't look at it like, I didn't take it like oh, it was like, I'm not going to have the song, Like I still have the song. You know the internet the internet, it's like yeah, because they didn't. It made it seem as if it was on iTunes. It was for sound No, it was no, it was it was gonna because he was gonna make the track listing was yeah, because he was he was going to make the change. And that thing just happened. So the guy's lines right state of mind, and then people like nine people died like nine year old and yeah, God blessed man sending love to all their families. Like I don't expect him to get in the studio and fix the record, Like that would be selfish in me. You know what I'm saying. That's my brother. He always come through for me that I know, but love for him. That's gonna drop the album and we're gonna drop the record top of the air. And then we got, you know, two looks instead of one when you said drop the album, dropped your album, I mean, we just drop the album here, yeah, yeah, and drop dropping. So no one never heard this record. It wasn't like someone downloaded the record. Nobody heard him had to come and take their shift back from him. Right, that'd be ill, right what you could do that nobody heard the record? You know what? I like what Adele did. Adele forced you to listen to an album the way it is. That was one thing that I had to do when I downloaded your album and Automathlete gave me the shuffle bite, meaning it started from record seven. So I had to literally go back and listen to it from a streaming where because I wanted you to listen. I wanted to listen to as an artist, I'm always I'm always gonna be an artist side. So what's crazy, ship is I'm sitting around listening to your album doing my studies. But I'm saying, wait a minute, that's not how French want me to listen to this album because it started from business or started from and I'm like this, let me go to I c U because and then did you understand what like like I feel like that should be a standoud for like you know, like you don't you're don't trying to say eight all right? You know, when you download the album, they'll give you like an option to just press shuffle, so so it starts from anywhere it's going. But if I made a piece of material, if you right around made the hair straight, so adele seen that seen the Spotify gave people the shuffle buttons or theyll said they listen. I don't want anybody to listen to my album unless it's plays the way I made it. And I think she changed the way of music music should be should be heard, like you know what I'm saying, like you know what I'm saying like that definitely yeah, so yeah, that's yeah, Yeah, that's that's super hard. Okay, so up, So let's let's get into this litten do do? Should we do quick time and slim and have somebody drink for him one of your one of your cars, someone you got your chair. He was ready. He was drinking from you're you're drinking water today, you're drinking is You're gonna drink for me? Because I listen, I'm aspired by you. So I want to. I want to. I was like, yo, That's why I was. I was very happy. I was like, so I'm gonna be how much? Just smoke weed? That's all? Okay? So you gave me a quick time I slign all right, cool, come on sunny, Yeah, it's just shots and yeah, you're gonna take for me and f is gonna take for us. You got a new patch of marijuana, little mamhjuana. I ain't gonna lie that one. Look dangerous. That's my majuanamin majuana, homemade, homemade, homemade bru Okay, what you want, what you want? You want brown, look at damn. Diego was right. Diego was right. Diego. We got to killer though, and pumping hit me about pushing that black liquor man, that is a black man on liquor. Excuse me, black man on the killer. Make sure you get this footage. So did he sees this? Please? Okay, it's alright, cool, I've seen this yesterday. I feel like he's gonna answer this one pretty easy. What's your name? That's pretty simple. I got a son named the car and one of my best friends was killer. It should be easy. But I'm asking you the question. You're gonna drink for the first one. I feel like you're gonna answer this pretty easy. First two ones, pretty easy? Max b or Rick Ross, Okay, let me explaining the rules. Totally forgot so sorry, so sorry. The rules of the games is this. You gonna pick one or the other, that's cool. But if you pick both, or if you pick neither, did he drinks? So you say both like you know both of you your homies ply heat drinks. So every time you correct drinks. But if you pick one of the other, that's okay, it's no problem. That means no one drinks. Okay, So Max b or Rick Ross, vot, damn it? We all drinking? We all drinking with you? Yeah, let's go. That was that was Fraser's money. See I'm learning from friends. You can keep his friends drunk and still stay so I like it. I'm gonna learning this ship. I'm gonna learning this ship. Okay, drink a little way. Both preak that maybe I should have gone something with you today. I'll give you a day. One day, I'll do it. I'll let you do. You do it. Okay, damn you, you conna be good on this one. I think so pay arrest or ou I should take a shot for betting against that one. I thought you was gonna go care rest for sure. Okay, hit me a little sob curve for this one. I don't know. I didn't know. This is the producers one chance or staff on those go a chance Okay, smack DVD or Forbes DVD. Smack Okay, Dirk a little baby, both coke boys, baby, I don't know why that. Ladies your by the way, let me just tell you something. When frist was drinking, I was scared of Frisch drinking like he's the only dude. Let's by the way, I'm a real drinker. It's a lot more, bro, It's a lot. This is what we can do. Lighter shots, lighter shots. You gotta like you gotta go like you can do it when fresh, drinking fresh was dangerous. That's the only dude I was scared of. Like Fat Joe's birthday party. I was nervous. Oh yeah, that's hard. Okay, m O p or mom d d Okay, sure, DJ Collet or DJ Drama both all right, bokego by, trust me little like. But it's the best to killer on the world, on the world. Black man mixes in the depth of the depth of the Black Car of Mexico, in the black part of Mexico, all which there is, which there is? I was making that up. I goes, keep you close. I don't know what you just want Harry fraud or hit maker. Like as far as what I picked both, I think there should be a limit on some people doing both because I wanted to be Okay, this is great, by the way, I might as well just start drinking it, all right, l a, oh Miami man, both come on. I actually like that answer from both. I'm not like I'm doing if you can drink it, God, I would have said both need a pin. He needs a sling pitch some of that guy, Yeah, something to some chime. All right, you want to give him a new call you. I can't believe you that. Okay, okay, okay, let's ain't wrestling, bro, you get to tank all right, first one, m damn, I forgot I got it? I got it? Okay, fuck okay, m God's name, it's nothing your notes what Beth TV or you leases Vera you want to say you're saying TV or Jesse Jes you know I'm a resource froom kid man direct to you. That's what I'm saying against that's his brother sip. All right, close out. You didn't forget it? Would have buets n well, Jesse, Jesse forget forgettable. I've been you set first, Montana directed how it got? That was fine? Okay, kiss or Mace both Welcome, Welcome to the show. Welcome this batches Chris Brown for the weekend. Mm hmm, come on you look at oh Man. Now, I'm not gonna lie. Damn. This is off topic. But every time I heard unforgivable, I want to take a molly. I'm just throwing that out. Dude. That's me, that's me. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm a little you have that's what you're telling. I gave you a love man, I'm not out here, okay, Epic or in the Scope. It can't be both of this, bro, that's Sylvia or Jimmy or just Epic in the Scope. I mean, I mean I went from Endoscope to Epic, so I would say epic who you like, like like the silver wrong more than how was it being an epic and you was that bad way? Um in the Scope? Yeah? That bad way end the Scope when I dropped the first album, and um, I think Puff had left there as you album dropped. Puff left. Yeah. Jimmy Ivan, he just got a hundred thousand million from just point number. Listen with Jimmy Listen. They just gave him Apple gave him the whole company million. Yeah, I mean that's definitely mean. When I when I first signed the End the Scope, Um, I sat down with Jimmy and I sat down with Off. So when when it's upon they both left, it was just like, you know, I gotta go with y'all going, oh they both left. Yeah, they both left, and I went to Epic. But and this cope got a beautiful system, you know what I'm saying. But it just you know, I went to heap it, so you know, I gotta ride with my label definitely, and this is your last time rot in the label because you want your own after this. No, I still have one more whatever, no one moment wherever bad Boy last with bad Boy okay, and then Indie after that, No, then Big bad Time whatever. I mean, he could be drink it cold. Yeah. What's the music in Africa? Apple Beat? I feel like you're gonna do an apple Beat album? Nah, I'm not. I'm forgivable. Was right there, Yeah, right next to Afrobeat the Morocco might be afrobeats fall. Yeah, because they were saying your mind because there was It was saying that the Essence song was the highest charter Afro song, like from Africa, and I'm like, ye, broa on Africa think I'm from Like yeah, I'm like, I'm not. I don't forget about you know what I'm saying, Like you know I'm from Africa. Like that there's Afro Beach Like I just gonna skip and go to Essence. So when you're from Africa, you eat with your hands. To Morocco, North Africa, this is different. Yeah, that's the earliest ship in the world. You see, Michael Black, We're not We're not as heavy with it. We're not as heavy with that, just clean, Michael Black. We're not as heavy as you do. You see how he did with Michael. He's doing it for comedy effects. Man. Listen, he the way. Go to Concept Blanca. You get the food all and certain. You take your bread, you grab your meat. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Not Michael Blacks' Michael Black clean is a big thing to be able to even eat like that. Yeah, talent, but when you were smoking Rocko hash for it though. Let's just go it out there. I'm sorry, Okay, we got the best meek mal or Wally both? Would you say? All three? Hey did you take your shot from last time? We're watching you? Bro? We know we know he's about to turn into water. Not you rock him? Okane, go rock him? Rock cam Yeah, okay, podcasts or radio both. I'm makings I've been eating anything that's great. Stop mooring to me. Bro, No, it's not it, brother, Keep close, keep your ship going, even drinking like that. You know what happened him during quarantine he stopped drinking. Have you been around you too long? Yeah? Keep it close? Okay, bad boy or MMG, Yeah, I don't show was called drink chips. I don't know if you know. Okay, you gotta take one shot though. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm staying sober. I'm staying so No, I too a good example, man, that's good to say. I want to follow you, bro, I want to follow you. I'm gonna be a that be the bad example. Yeah, don't get it twisted. I'm coming back to the one camp. He was like, can't you want to drink? This guy's the worst. But I was talking about I didn't know we had issues that he had to be solder. You had to get it off his chest. Okay, if Vera or Jesse Terrera, you're already bad because I just wanted to see he's gonna stick ribe with you, so he didn't he too he picks you. I mean, I don't think he would have picked you. He was here though, being but you know, but we did a lot. I think we did a movie together, videos together, like in that movie. Yeah, I got food. Leg want one thing? One thing you can't do because and send him anything to his phone because he will post it. Yeah, he'll posted. No questions. You have to say early. Do not post by the way a meteor. You send me something I'm expecting that's what you want. I'm saying this. He sipsed me the scene. I'm like, oh, I look good at this ship. He said it to two people. The other person posted, let me tell you how all point he is? He says it to me. I posted immediately I'm looking good at Yeah, you didn't tell if you didn't put a disclaimer, I'm funny in every day. I'm funny and I got a mega. Eleven hours later, he goes, oh, ship, I forgot to tell you not to post it like I got a million news. I've been taking it down now. Okay, who did we pick? You picked eight or Jesse? Okay, okay, because even from the Bronx, right, yeah, Bronx name gonna stick together? She sat like thirty videos together. Okay, Waka or Fatty watch? Both good? I don't make these questions. Let me tell you and I'm going already you pick them both because he was on tour. You want to know the reason, right, I got taped with both of them. That's fine, man, Okay, it should be easy, but it's definitely pause kind of difficult. Tupac or Nipsey I mean I would pick both. Of course I'm not trying to do this. Of course you would the way, because are you gonna light not fun? You got to fight in the hotel anyway? Fish come on, oh my god, okay, Fox a third game. There's both of them taking said he said, you gotta say that, bro, you know, just someone nobody ever threw up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he said both. He said, dogo through up. I never saw the footage Lamar owed him afterwards, him to Okay, I got to gather. I forgot about Okay, chasers. Okay, I mean when I said Kanye off a rap drink, both Kanye and I will quick them both to Kanye foriver. Give you a beat for the reason. Just take a sucking sure. I love this game. By the way, I love this Yeah. Now that's one of my favorite joints. That's the intro to the to the movie. Okay, did you take the shot? Take the shot first? Okay, because he tried to cheat. It's like six shots. I gotta go. And you you you asked to be tagged in. You can't ask to be tagged in. You gotta tag you out. We ain't being tagging you up. We're not tacking you alright, cool DMX A big punt. That's both alright. I'm sorry man, I'm gonna take a shot of water. Show how many more back? It's only like six more. But it's fairly fairly easy, really easy in my opinion. But I didn't write this. When is supposed to hit me like soon know when you get up? So so don't get up? So don't get up? All right, scarface or ice cube? Um m m both, it's not me Mann. You're listen the next five d listen right, hey, yo, we almost done the bottle. That's that's what I'm saying. Puff Daddy would like to hear that, because that's black owned to kill that. Black wants to kill up. Understand the same spick up talk people ever vote TV So rock Della showing Cone's in the prices of the chairman. We all out here, we are outside. I am drinking it in my mind as well. These lights is getting hot. The lights are getting hot. They get very high. Okay, I don't know this one London on the Track or Murder beats London on the Track. I thought that was going that was you. I was like you Smith, where you you missed? Like two shots. Really, Yeah, catch up? What is that you're drinking? Mama Wana and the lixor Mama Wana. He makes it to shout out ma maajuana King. That's the homie. He stopped drinking too that. I think he might make it in the tub and the toilet. I don't know how he makes it him if I stopped drinking. He said, hold on, hold on, you ready at this one? This is one I really want to notice one. Huh, Cardi b or Nicki Minaj. I don't even think this is the game working hour. There were both to win. Every time you got maybe you gotta give him no option. They gotta tick one. This this game is made for artist to drink gets under the table. Yeah, we don't wait like friends getting drunk. Just I know what that's being around like he oh god, listen, I think that's experience a lot of things with my brothers, A lot of things. That's correct, that's not the whole you're ready to I don't think I can do this many shots in my body. It's okay, you don't worry. This is nothing to have them le bottles back in. You're ready, Kohli or Trina Chloe, who's clothing. That's that new drill rapper from the nest. Both. This was both He's pick both I got. I asked him that question. Yeah, he was around the keep a little bit more. We're gonna come to you. You around. It was around the vibe vibes. Come on, bring it up, come on, let's go ahead. You're slowing it down like you drive. We're gonna have a s fiss crash. That video is gonna be gona beside. That's gonna be a real Swiss Beans and Timberland. They came here first. We got them before, must see. That's why those verses, that's why they were sweating like before the first song that was like it was that came yeah yeah, okay Snoop Dog abust the rhymes questions, Yeah next this god wait wait you said, both said water. Only two more left and one of them. I know, I know it's as vote one of them. I know it's vote and it is this one cold act one savage Both this is it and your cardier's gonna right. Those are cardiers, right, These are vintage frames. Bureau. You got to say, okay, this is a very last one. It's the very last one. Now this is usually there's a real easy question to answer. But but it's not while changed while late change the trajectory. But we asked while lay this while they came with a whole paragraph of loyalty ship exactly. Yea, but but ah, I just want to give him that just a case, you know, in case you wants to say both again. He wanted I don't even respect love to respect both. That's the easiest. That's I see the right answers. But why they made me change my mind like the one when he signed and he made it sound good, but it really both is the right? You guys put the the wile answer. Yeah, yeah, we'll put it right. But we're not gonna do any of that ship okay, but I like, stay right here, yeah, stay right here, right, yeah, you let we can tell stories. We're going to that sec that splitpers around for a lot of ships, so you can ask um. I was there when when Jay was texting, They was like, YO, signed with me, sign with me? Ship like that. I like you, dup, that's old. Tell them all this. We got hard. We got hard, like we needed that. Boy, we got Kanye. You gotta email. We're like, how we gonna talk to this guy. You gotta email. We didn't even talk to mama. Yeah, Jesus fire and you got, you got Jesus, you got. Yeah. Kanye and Nas on the record and they both came to the video. How did you pull it off? Yeah? I swear to God flow in. I ain't gonna lie. Me and Naas walked outside the trailer and I was looked at me. It was like, yeah, you just did the impossible. I ain't gonna lie. I don't know where he meant, yeah, but it was like the impossible. When we went to go shoot it with um, it was like the first people to shoot with a shot Khan. It was like airfield where all the dead planes go. Oh, I did kanyek air video over. I wasn't there at that field. Now, this was like, this is what you know? Is that seven mommies? Are you trying to go at me? You mean hard movie? You know? I didn't had the worst movie ever, but I was a black guy. I fed and then they killed me last time. Always he always and Martina, he whoa, whoa, whoa. Relax, it's not real it Stay property too, Yeah, yeah, stay property too. But you're still doing this chick oh what is that. Oh yeah, we we squashed meep over here. So we wanted the lords of the underground because because you took the ship. Yeah house stay ship, that's New York here. We just wanted to feel good about it and tell him that's what they said. No, no, that we told him. I talked to him, told him we're not just gonna call people. We wanted to get him and him so love, because come on, get going. I'm not getting He's sorry going, what's going on? So that's why it's great. It's positibility. But tell me when he said great things like he wanted to like you to know that he was he appreciated you from stamping on the record and all that. So I just want to think. I think what it was they wanted just the acknowledgment, right, Oh yeah you acknowledge though, Oh yeah I heard something like that on here. Yeah. It's so, I'm not calling the homies unless it's gonna be a productive conference. Always positive energy, always, always you want to do that later doing let's do it now? Okay, do it enough, you want to do it, you're not in you can. Let's smoke a cigarette. No, try to take advantage what do you think we are see seventy four? Yeah, yeah, because I got good questions after this it could possibly be having So we had you on drink chests and we just wanted you let me know what it's all over with French y'all, all of you know what I mean, we peacemakers over hand. So I just wanted to say, y'all, and I told you, I think what did I say on drink chats. We can go back to the footage. I think if he he know because I know him, you know what I'm saying. So just just say, I ain't know a big dog, that's uh speaking. Had had your friends sent the b yeah they the samples a sample jelly bean, but he is okay wow right now okay okay, oh yeah yeah yeah. The video him like not know. I ain't even gonna lie, brother, Harry Fraud was supposed to put it the gume, but I ain't gonna put it on him. But I was just yeah, yeah, I was. I was just there shooting video. Everybody came through the bronze. It was hectic. But that that you know that that will never happen again. My brother. You know what I'm saying. You know you want to you want of the pioneers and hip hop. You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, you definitely helped, you know, motivate me to make that song, especially with that sound. You know what I'm saying. I respect you all for you heard all love love. Man. I'm here to give me your flowers while you're still here. You heard because that shot much love. What we're shopping up after the show? Yeah, love, love love. That's a beautiful thing. Tell me that I'm back. You want to from make something? You know what I said? I gave an example, I said. I said, yeah, we're drinking. We're drinking around and drinking. Brother, I said, you know you bro, you know from from you doing that with me? I said, I said, I know that for a fact that French couldn't have did that on purpose you because he did. He did it with me like um use a part of bloody money have me, a part of it, had me And we spoke about the video. So I have to finished you. So I just wanted to. But I think a point that needs to be made across the boarders. As hip hop gets older, it's gonna start to sample itself. Yeah, And I think, like you said, for Big Funy on, this new hip hop should be different than any other. John Well, hip hop is the only one really sampling heavy the way we do. We should make sure we pay homage and we keep that cycle right where the money stays flowing to everybody. I'm sure. It's like, you know, it's like Vincor's designing man, whether it's money or whether it's credit, because not everybody's getting published or whatever. So as long as everybody's getting acknowledged, I think that's what matters. That you're getting busy, you get caught up. You know, that's a part of it. But then maybe you get busy and you realize that and then we do something like this. You know what I'm saying. As long as everybody's humble about it, that's the thing. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Like when I heard the record off the rip Off Top send it to me, I think I laid this ship and I gave it right back and I was just like I understood what it was. Um it was a blood money failed to it. And it's just like like even that's why I said, you know, even with that Drake record, that was that that's that was Pocat come out. No no, no one, no one, the new one that was that's about to come out. It's just I hit you. I was like, yo, bro, like I want to redo like one of them classic hooks. And he was like, yo, dude, calm down and do this do that. We were then we finally caught the hook. So it's just like, you know, I always pay it. So now we had the horse and carriage over it. Really camera, okay, bring camera back outside. Let's that's all. That is all. I like that, all right? So um so he was knocking down Black China at one point about about the quote this news source here. You know this usually works because you drunk. It was just like, my man is one of the original sniper sniper in the world levels of sniper super saying because he told on him South. It's a black belt, my man. Yeah, he's degree black belt in this ship. Yeah. You like like yeah, like fun is it a silence or it's suppressed? What is it? How suppressed? How do you snipe these things? Suppressed? Do you put together the guns? Everything? It's quiet, so you won't know what's goods. I got your kid, I got to put allow up so how do you start the sniping? What is it? What is how's this happened? Listen? You see them. It's an aura vibe. When we's in l A, everybody want to hang out with us. They were like China first yond you don't know about there's a lot of you, there's a lot of vibe. So it's on the pia yo yo. That needs to be a thing for sure. But another I like, like I said, he's fun, he's your first. But to hold on, guys, everybody calmed down right because these personal because you know, let's just be clear, I don't care. You're definitely told on yourself. You said I had Chloe, and I'm just saying, yeah, I brought Chloe to City Island. That's like it's like, you know legend ship. You know some pencil pockets. It's like, you know, City Island one way and one way out, Like they never know for that and know for that juice, I brought Chloe New ORLEANSO legendship. He was knocking it down. To take your time. You can't just check out that problem. You have a person to the second birth, Jim on the second bird, you just just you know, it was just it was just something so legendary and the Bronx, like just to have Chloe Kim, you know, the whole family coming City Island. It was just it was just a vibe. Okay, but let's just say that lyric you had Coldie City Island. What you say after that? Like that? What? Yeah, you do studied this ship said you said, you said this this is not I ain't go that's what wasn't gonna look back. I don't know. Yeah, I just had a lot of fun in Hollywood, had a lot of fun in like heard Tyres called you about anight like you heard that a little bit like because you have some of pepper beat like light skin shot Tyrese curious that was shot to Tyres Man shot Tyres. Yeah that's love. It's love. But at one point he's sleeping his girl. Just no mom. They had off joints on pressure yea, you give me He's like friends come out ship, but you did and you said you had aggain Cobo. Wow, where did you get on this? I'm just saying, I have you know, I have you know? I have fun in l A. I was single, like Cabo New York, playing a lot of things, a lot of things took places you know, I mean too you know, affact different places. But I think we know you're not mad. Don't listen. There's a lot of things you can't be proud of, yea, being a sniper. You should not have my fun. Just still have back friend, still have one. Most people I know will stop doing jo, start doing more pussy r. He sniped them all. You got take another. We're doing a quick time to slip again. You can't give me here because it's like, so we established Okay, this is what I wanted to ask you. Locked Jaw and the new Kodak joint directed by switch to the first one Locked y'all original when the Kodak hood there was an artist there that we had to take out the footage. This is covered as I got a call said take him out of the video. Question somebody, okay, because what's the what's the new joint with cold opstick mom stick? Yeah, yeah, thank you. Could you not do lock Jaw? It's because if Jaw wasn't keep locking, you know what he's Soper was so because I was like watching it lock jaw too at joy Yeah yea, yeah, so then you keep it real so being locking his jaw yeah shot. Yeah, I don't know what you mean, but what's mom stick shot to my door? Colde a man the first one to lockjaw like we was jaw locked and he was about to go to the dentist. I don't know how he was going to do it. Yea. Literally the jaws were locking. Man, no scales and she's like, yeah, I get it, I gotta go. Yeah, so Dan, because that's so long, it's such a like, yeah, my stick is just a chopping platinum by the way, double platinum, John three, three times platinum, my bad best hype man in the games, directed by your boy. We went to Kodak Hood Yeah, that hockey remember his arm theory, hold on you hurt? Yeah? And then somebody's like, yeo, we gotta finish his master scene. But he said to me that stop come to definitely one of my favorite people. That one of the goals. I went home to say that sorry. I went to see my guys and um kind of lows and problem with twelve. So I walk in and Goldak is just there when I played the fool. But I'm like this, like it's from path Mark, you know, New York. Everybody you know I'm in my forties now, said, look, so I go, what the do is that? He goes, oh this this Haitian food for my career? You leg by the way, Kodak Poppy, you guarantee, yeah, you guaranteed to have something to about your Yeah. Yeah, yo, that ship was good. Oh mol okay, how you can't huh on the album? What sample is that? I've been trying all day. Um, I couldn't figure that one out. Oh I got um, I gotta get over you the sample? Yeah, by I forgot the name. Harry Ford did that one? No, I actually found I found the sample and I sent it to just Blaze first, and I was waiting for him to send it, but he was taking too long, so I just sent it the hit maker and maker rewhipped it, making it the whole album or not really not there like a couple of songs on that okay, Yeah, but definitely helped out with the with the whole joint because when we had him all he said he was executive producing. Correct. Yeah, there's no more pluts bro Oh all right, yeah they rolled all up. Come on, Jesus, I turned Spanish on your friend. Feel the corner man said, yeah, I'm I'm sorry, man, you see what he said. I didn't say that. I just said, man, Sunny, choose the clam theory on this show. The low the oyster hit the show. Just the shell. He ate the shell all the time. With the one time you know, you know, you know smiff and been a back page his back face say, I never knew that some crazy places listen to sift to call around. He's like, listen, just a wrong, no friendans you know your old school things, all the half of my town with Northland for a year. Oh my god, you don't say that my first time first like like sip, you don't get no asks. Man, it's calling on. You don't get opens Its Mexican. He started getting about backpage, started learning like it's a covering on. He started thinking about everything, start thinking about that area. Yeah, you can't lie. I gave your housewarman President was legend. Yeah what was was strip? I thought it was stripping? Yea what you said? Many? Yeah you know I was okay. She kep got what that was. That was the first thing she did, and I was very together, just came and just broke the whole strip of bow was damn. How was there too, you gonna let me give it away? And I was getting a wait of somebody was there for the connection. So all the way up. Yeah, fact Joe calls you. What does he say? And the biggest for Miami in Miami like, yo, whatever you're doing, stop what you're doing, come by the studio. It was cool and dre studio. What's the racist dog there? There's a there's a racist racist? Don't like I'm the only one to know that, like your enthusiasm racist if you black, like as soon as you go through, you want to call the r right now? Only only black people, only black people. Only seen that on Coopier Enthusiasm. Oh no, they got a curbish. They know they kicked them out. It's no longer there. That's why I was asking. I'm trying to figure out what that was nighttime. It was like I'm talking about like time error, like yeahs like like what like six years ago, five years ago? A little bit okay, cool. I was probably a little bit arobably a little bit. I think it was after I'm forgetable. Was before that, I remember, but I'm I'm forget It was like sixteen and I was like a little bit after that probaby. So I just went in there and he just played me a song. That's when that she came on. You heard the horns? You just hit all the way up. I'm like, oh no, this one. And that's around the beginning of Dream Champs. Yeah, yes it is, because because that's the first day I've learned that Fat Joe and really was doing a whole album again. So I went, I went to the studio after I believe you laid the hook. I went to the studio. I heard and I just knew that was it. I just knew that was it. I want to see if the racist dog was it? Was there? Just his father him, to see if he answers. He's never been a cool yo, yo, yo yo, let's make it. You got a Frenchman town in here. Save the freshman. What's uth good? Look? We live on drink Champs. I got one question. I asked him where was he when he heard all the way up? He said he was in cool Andre's studio. So I had to ask the one question. Was the racist dog around at that time? He wasn't there? Who's way? Who's dogging? Easy? Who's dogging? Is it drizz without family home? Team in the building. Yeah, we're gonna have an episode just about the dog one day. Don't worry the crazy. Thank thank you brons crazy right yeah yeah, stop, I appreciate you, bro. Now, thank you my nigga Yo, good looking at Dre later all my bro cool alright, So just so, yeah, I just wanted you all to know that they really was a racist dog. No, that's crazy. No, no, listen, listen. I swear to guard so used to put him in the room when I'll come. I said, we crush that. You know, they got the long thing come down, so you know you hit the thing. I wouldn't even like when the gate open. I'm like, y'all got him. He said his name was the whole time, the racist chop hole. He's Mexican. Mexican. Do you have to tell him him like Stockles Smart? No, he wouldn't go at Joe. I used to be like, it's something wrong about this job, Like, why's he coming at me? You're a dark So you included Drake Studio. They played it right, Yeah, what what happens from there? Man? I mean I sue as I heard it, you know, you know, I don't you know, I know what those be and I saw I heard. I just look at that crack. I was like, boy, this is it. It's one of those. And I didn't hear the whole thing done. I think I had just did um the hook. It was just still playing. Then once we did it, he called me. He was like, we gotta shoot video of this, and I heard the whole thing. I was like, yeah, we got one, right, I'm saying, I think that that's probably like one of the biggest Bronx records to come out of the passing. Yeah, I was labeled New York. One of the Bronx labeled it. Yeah the Coach, Yeah yeah, Bronxe people, you'll be playing the Bronx. Boy, that's my family from the Bronx. I love it. Okay, I got mad more questions, come on, let's go. Okay, all right, answering how you came, you said, um, but on one you said yeah, yeah, you can't smoke chance he's up right now. That's called you got us up, got us up? We got that picture? No, Rea, you might, Joe Rogan, Yeah you might. Yeah, I didn't know what I gotta go. You said your biggest wait till you fall, then you're good. So you said, you said you the biggest bad boy since Wallace. So let's just let's just sacks. But we're saying, we're saying they get a mace pause. I'm not saying now, I'm just saying current. I know you know what you're saying. I'm just trying to the fans. I'm just saying, I mean, i mean, at this current time to my last album, I was the biggest bad boy you know since Wallis so just the current time, goddamn. And you take a lot of big references. You don't get you see, no slack. If jay Z do the same thing that beyond jay Z, yeah, don't bother you. No, I'm just saying. I'm not saying I'm bigger than because because sometimes you use a lot of big lines and like Punns lines, and I mean, that's that's that's that's what I grew up on. Okay, you know what I'm saying. They don't don't think they don't be on hold like that. They hold, yeah about taking, but the whole history was holding big. I think that's probably why you know what I'm saying. But no minds, it was just you know, from a from a fan point, your pay homage. Yeah, I mean I'm held Yeah, of course of course made that yeah, shot the whole too, sending him everything before I put it out. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean you sent him everything. I've been trying to send him everything before I put it out. Yeah yeah, what does he what does he be? Like? I mean, like just like with Jungle Rules, Like when I sent him the album and he picked famous, it was just like an AFROBAT record and I'm saying, I don't want to get famous. Yeah yeah, but you said you don't want the bit to be famous? Right? No? That that was that was actually my grandmother's tithing is shown me to be famous. So that was just like dedicated to her. So like a lot of people people that I'm talking to, the joint like, I don't got no reason for her. You can get famous all you want. I wanted you to be famous, you know. I like to deal with famous joints like this. Who's to me? Nevado? I didn't even know he said it is on the number one shot shot that everybody fun. That's what you just said, bro, I just said after the next question. So how is it right? Because you know we had Kanye here, Uh, we had the mall old him here, Yeah, it's the Kardashian thing. Yeah, how is it being a Kardashiane. It's down for a minute, right at good like you we were taying right at the little mas Ma, can't you swipe right in? He was like left, didn't like that? Bring it down, to break it down that nobody knows nobody, man, I just you know, I don't even look at it like that. I just you know, it looked at it like I went through through a vibe of the vibe for like a year or two years, and know what I'm saying, for the vibe you had going through a vibe with the at the yallow, with the y'all that was I was trying to enjoyed it. Yeah, great people, a great people. But you know, I didn't even know what there was talking about the Kardashi and curse this and that. I didn't know about the Kardashi incurasee until I had them forgetable out. So I was just like, I don't know what they're talking about in between unforgivable that is the curse hit you gus, y'all know what I'm saying. Everybody be asking me, like the car, the gaff talk. Yeah, asked earlier, the hype the media talk. Yeah, there's great number one. They're great. Yeah, they're great. They're great people. They seem like decent people. Shot to Kim Cads like people I would hired Kim from my lawyer. Kim she was I wanted to be my lawyer, but she was actually trying. She was trying to actually help me bring get Max to be out. Yeah, that's all the shot that Kim man. Kim's get maxed to be out. And I mean, yeah, we have fun. Man, So how was it? Like you usual Paparassi, you gotta be like, what is it? You gotta go? I just I just think when you deal with any famous joint you're taking, you're taking a lot of light away from your music. Okay, I'm saying, yeah, I feel like there's a lot of there's You're giving people a lot of things to focus on besides what really got you with you back, and you have to do that like the reality shows part too. I mean they they based the they life on on the reality show because Kanye said that they didn't want him to get back together because it's a better plot for her getting back with someone else. Did you feel like that. I feel like I'm asking about that. I mean, this ship was real. Yeah, I mean that's that's how they make That's how they make their living, like their life. So they put their right, i mean, their real life on it. That's how they is their life. Yeah what I'm saying, so their fans know that's real. You know what I'm saying. And in the way they edit that, they edit their life, you know. I mean like I never yeah, I never. I never wanted to be on it, but they told me that that was their life. I had to be on a couple of episodes, so you know, shout to eat. They gave me some money to do it. Time there too, shout out to So they think I didn't see individual, Look, that's crazy. I mean I didn't look I didn't like, I didn't look at it. I didn't look at it like it was it was. It was something bad. That was, you know, my joint at the time. And I was like, you know, I'll do whatever support you know what I'm saying, whatever you're doing. It wasn't like I was looking for a reality show. I was just you know, a guest from that. I produced records on it. Yeah, we did scoring and all that on the eat Hollywood story. I mean, taking to produce is out of control right now. It's crazy because when I was first dealing with h one time they had Lamar old him outside the club. It was crazy because we go outside the club and lamar old him was outside the club by my car and I just didn't do like seven feet And I'm like, yeah, it was like that's the kind of thing they do, Like up did it without us know when we come out side lamar same way? How you just called Loto. I meant the same way. What were ye? Set you up? Bro? Not set you up? But they'll do it without letting me know what I'm saying, Well, let you know right now. Yeah, just to be clear. And we could have not though. Yeah, so they did the opposite way. Okay, okay, okay, so you know what I mean. But and they told me they didn't do it. I'm not how the Lama told them knew it was at what colub we was at but and me and him never had bee. But I don't know. People don't like he dealt with at one point. I dealt with at one point. Yeah, what's over there? Like why beat for a joint period. Yeah, some would beat for for Kardashian. Just be clear. Some would go to war. I've seen it go to war for way less. This is true. We I don't know if you'll see you guys are together. We come from the same code. When he comes from the same code. We don't beat too many sniping going on, too many sniper it's because there's a lot of sniping going So so how is that is after a person after let's just be clear, after a female knows you had a kar dash in, does that your pussy game or does it be like I don't want to because you had a car that You're like, I don't know because you know, it's crazy like once you get a John, all the joints wanted to because they're like he got absolutely that it has It's not like that, Yeah, I mean I just I just feel like, you know, when when that goes, like I was saying, it's just it's more when it comes to me, I worried more about you know what I'm out there on the media on like when I when I when I went through a lot of those famous relationships, it was just basically it made it was starting to feel like I was a reality star or I was turning into something that you didn't sign up for that. Yeah, I didn't sign up for that. And I'm saying that's when French Montana kind of like you know, was becoming like a Hollywood thing, and it was just like, nah, bro, like these things just you know, if I'm sniping, I gotta start doing these things more than underground railroad like yeah, yeah, so you know some underground railroad things. So ever since then, they kind of taught me a lesson, like I'm not broadcasting whoever I go out, so it might be some something even bigger than that that I went through that I wouldn't even want people to know. Big time. It's about to tell us girls, I just said, yeah, I mean it's a royalty. Just remember I told you Spit movie I had had a princess like Morocco. Right, yeah, Big Europe, just euro you're talking about part of Europe. Let's just honing a little when we're talking about the process of somewhere like something. Yeah, you know, precess of Europe. Smart, Yeah, that's the one at listens it from listen by stuff. You're just saying the name and you're staying on the let me tell yourself what's the difference between Dubai and Abu Dhabi. It's a big difference. I mean it's it's close to the queens. Dubai don't like flint stones and Abba Dabi. Dude, that's because it was pretty good. Because you also you also had you got told your cat and show you cats like a Philly shop on the songs. It's clear. Let's let's just you don't know what I so much ship, take your shot, take your shot. So it's quick celebrating ce celebrating. This is without drinking, I because because you gotta drink with doja cap, right huh. And you know that there was a rumor, yeah she was in racial chat rooms showing feet. That's Cap showing her feet. I didn't see that. I think, you know, I just think, man, you know every artist is gonna have you know what I'm saying that up to the down and but you ain't supposed to be in racial chat rooms though the room. But this is this is the capital people, the people that stom the Capitol. So it's like a Trump chat room. Not for for what I know, for what I know at my time being with her and this and that she's not She ain't nothing like that, I know. But you know this actual footage in the y'all y'all yeah lines, I didn't see it. I see it. It disturbed me. But she ain't like that. She's not racist, No, she's not. Yeah, she's anti that. She's a beautiful person, a man. She's not white for the money now she's she's actually she's actually very black. If you hear that record, though, you'll know she ain't racist. She's a project chick, she's a nah. I thought that was that was that was her. Yeah, I don't gonna against I went onto it one day. I said, what is don't your cat trend there for? And people just sent me links with hard with like hacks all Jim Duggan looking dude, yeah, black, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, you know the dudes that you know what's racist? They running around with four by four, they got a truck, a hat on its bass. You know what I'm saying, like, and they fish. You know, I'm saying, like your man for knowing the rest of the Yeah, you know, Jim said nigger before come on on the four by four. He's on the Ronaldo shot. The got weird. I'm sorry. I just tried to understand what she was going through to me in these racial track rooms. That's all. That's all. I don't got no problems with that, nothing, nothing, nothing. I love that it got weird, all right, I mean I got it got weird. That video it looked like a movie. Yeah, she ran up on you on your birthday. She said, album's not gonna come out unless the video. Yeah, and the video is done, supposed to come out today, but okay, we're gonna drop it tomorrow. She had porky Yeah. Yeah, she kind of directed the video. Everything. Okay, cool. She can't be racist, She's right now, That's what I'm saying. That's what's up. Definitely, okay. So okay, you've got so many records with Drake, right, but one of them no stylus. Yeah, why don't like styles? I mean I think, I think, I don't know. I feel like I was on the stat Yeah he wasn't. We was in d R by the way. It was the poppy woman you dressed up like, that's the same that was yeah, that was yeah. That was no shopping with no saucy, no shop. Yeah, yeah, YEAHDS in New York, but no stylus, you know, because you know, we made the culture, you know what I'm saying. So so we made the culture or something like yo, bro, like we gotta we gotta get the people that that had any you know, effect on the culture like that. We gotta get Slick Rick. He was the first one to show us how to wear a chains when you put up no stylars, single want slick Rick? I like that. Yeah, I mean we kind of we kind of we kind of just called everybody that influenced the culture. And I felt like from from from the the young ones, I called Doug Um no that then, no that co But I was I was just going for people that started things. And I'm saying, like camera did the pink vibe, you know, I had him up slick Rick with chains and yeah dapping then you know. But I mean what I mean, they could have came with some yeasy like he just wasn't out pink polo star pink polo. Well no, the pink polo is ye easy, pain came on, but it gotta be gamester pink. You just can't be any pain. No, No, that's too it's too it's too confusing. And now Young Dunker's rocking pink too, he gotta pick speak. Yeah, so I don't know what's going on. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Camera invented pink. That's all he was. He was doing hip hop. Yeah, he invented making pink. Yeah, so everyone else it's pretty much at the camp. Yeah. I think we can make some noise for that, and you will meet me while making records together. We got a bunch of records. We actually were just working on some music and on Bahamas when I went to go don't. Yeah, so we worked on it and you hit the rumors about meet trying and leave. MMG. I know ain't got gonna do with you, but just asking anyway, um man um, you know the media makeup all type of things, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I just think you know, we all came in the game together as brothers, and I don't see you no other way besides that. For me, were all smeek quil. I feel like, you know, everybody's just doing their own thing. I mean, you know, the quarantine and all this going on to everybody in different places, everybody getting used to they space but I feel like we are brothers. You know, at the end of the day, what do you what do you? What do you feel about that? What he said, I mean asking you. You can't think, I can't think like French. You gotta think, like he said to their unit. So he anything for him. So I feel like I feel like I feel like if there's a situation, if a situation was to happen to meet Ross while anybody, everybody's gonna be like, damn, that was my dog. What I'm saying like that, like something happened like traffic. Yeah, you always sorry always and they're not talking. We all go through that like like like a normal fan, like any fans other than I'm speaking to UM something I want to say their name. I'm speaking to someone UM and he's saying that irv um irvst wrong or harvest right because a shanty wants to do her records over and she wants to own her masters to do a record over over the couple of law any of us can do to tail the Swift, Yeah, yeah, the Swift just did. So they're like, yo, Shanti is wrong for that. And I said, damn, you know what's fun up about me? Is for my second album, I side myself. So actually yeah, from from an r E album, I incorporated Military Entertainment. SCREM wasn't maintainment at that time, and I did a deal with me, so they had to deal. This is what maintainment. So I get you, I get from on a production tip, but I was never a label, so I never I still don't own the masters, so on that bar, I would want to go in and own the masters. So when they talking, they're like, yo, Ashanti is a little wrong because she's going in to recreate these So now he gets talked out of the masters. But in retrospect, I agree with the artists, but they still get no once no no if no once. If I go in and we do my whole album of friends, cloes in and read us his whole So what happens to those old records that are out there, well, actually under the cover of law that it's actually worded as they're already been paid, so they still get their publishing, but they don't have to be paid again. But do they replace them on on platforms or it's the two options. The two options. Yeah, like like tell Us joined seid tell a version right, so like the friends want to do that. So I mean that's fair. I think that's totally fair because the vision still there. But but now if you're the label, you get totally nothing out of that. No, that's not true because version, you get nothing out of the new version. Version. Yeah, the new version might not sound like that might it's it's not going to but but it's different. But in the world, like tell Er Swift, when you got these fans, you know, this is the greatest part of my job is to see who got the elless fans. Like so many of these people fans are die hard whatever you say, they're going for. So if so, like I said, like I got I got, I feel like I got five hundred thousand Niggers still making out there. Like if I was a found of thousand people still out there, if I was to go make the war report over, make the an R over, make mother over, I think there's a good chance that I'll be able to go gold again. Sounds like miss you know, no, I don't want to do it at all. I wanted to deal. I want to I want to go to times. Please cut me in not a little bit. But true fans ain't gonna sunk with it. I'm gonna tell you why, because they're gonna want to hear you, hungry you right out out the bend. Just want to two fans who suck me the podcast. No, I mean even if he did on the same bead once Ceen, that's a newer version and a whole will be different from wearing the shirt with real Yeah. Yeah yeah, is that something you're interested in? Yeah, but you puppa cool you you can actually go to puppers. Yeah, let me buy back whatever. I gotta buy back if you want to. But definitely, but um, I think the label probably owned those I'm saying we had a joint ventures, right yeah, and it's coping and and um and epic Okay, you know what I mean. But you know with us too, like us US artists sometimes it's like a lot of people, um, like me, I'm not the longevity artist, right so so thank you bro. So it's like, so when I put out albums, they do good over time, like all my albums like platinum, gold and this and that, and I'm saying, but it took time to get there, but they but they all get there, you know what I'm saying. So it's like you know, um the like you said, like a tailor swift and this and that, those are like the instant ones and what I'm saying. So it's like it's just just still even like like I'm mix tapes. It's like I want to put all my mix cause one mix tapes you can put those. Yeah, but those got samples. Yeah okay, so those those will be the things that I would redo over. You can do nft all that motherfucking ship. Yeah yeah, so those are so yeah, I got about five because from the industry bullshit of all the publishing ship. You can give everybody their money, whoever is involved in the in the mix tape ship. Yeah, that's that's what everybody. Shut your bigcoin water down, brou want you want to show bitcoin. I don't got no big coins. You got you got. The younger though, he's like, what you're talking about? Ether etherem etherrem is the truth. Though I'm learning a little bit a little like vibe. Now, we're good, we're good. How about her heart bases in I'm not even a friend. I'll be frying. No, I'll just go to the parties. I drink this ship to you like art, Like come on, this ship. Think. It's like, like, are you guys do art get the funk out of paintings. I don't like art paintings. It's difference. I like to make you don't like. But you want to sing about him? You know? Yeah, because somebody got a piece. You know what I'm saying, Like it works? You own art? Yeah, me neither. No, I have to put it in a safe right now. You rather have Jermy, That's what we're saying. Yeah, that's the art you appreciate. Yeah, the Pritchard Milly is and that's art. Well, let's see about a million dollar dogs come from about me dollar right there, and I got them a holy moniq Moly nods to watch conseur now show merrists now down. That's just like went out the dog man. I don't know if they come back. I'm ready for you. If it comes back, super ready for super read whatever whever trend to go to. So speaking on that, No, stylus, are you a fashion week type of dude? You go to fashion week? Pop a couple of ships? Yeah, I go to fashion Week, but but the yah, yeah, your painting, but you know, coming coming from coming from where we come from. It wasn't It wasn't like really like we didn't grow up in on that on that fashion. I mean you can relate to what I'm saying like that like now dipping that with what I'm saying, try to support you know whoever support us, you know, because that's the industry that like Pierce More, Yeah, that's that's that's that's fashion is like an industry like Africa. And I'm saying, like a lot of people just use the culture and don't get back to it. And what I'm saying, that's how I always felt about it. But I love I love all the all the pure and I'm saying artists that you know that that that that do their thing, but I always feel like, you know, they always have us front row, but never give us positions in there. But shot Louis va Tom for doing it for Virgil. What I'm saying that shot to all the all the people that want to get back to our culture. You're gonna wear some gap easy, Definitely. I've been up in the air with it. To real estate, if you want to know't gonna blow them up like that Fort said, we should talk about my man flipping houses. Say you're flipping houses. That's what's going on. Man, I'm looking at my thing. You're like flipping NJ but flipping. Yeah, So you gotta diversify your portfolio. He's in the rip though, he's in the yeah truck youbody overseas landing or cribs over you in Morocco. Little, I mean I would imagine, but yeah, a little. So. I just I just bought Paul George crib and I like about three decorate that. If you don't know that's the basketball player. Yeah, I mean s sometime. That's why I need it next to me. Good. So we've seen the other house where you have at the big bear door. This is I think that was his house. Yeah, that's that's the one who was Sean was knocking down at one point. I don't know who, but we got big Sean Saturday. Here you talking about talk about Macmiller girl, Oh oh different the same ye, some of the some of the shapes. Yeah, hang Frenchman. I'm gonna tell you man, I'm so proud of you, man, real talk. I wanted to, you know, with you little because I know you can handle it and you know it's beautiful because you know you wasn't one of my favorite people to get drunk with you hold it down, but I also want it to be one of my favorite people to just happen. That's the reason why I chose because you know, one I thought I see you was a skit. I didn't know I was really like I said, until I saw ebro in the morning and I felt like you nailed it. So um, I didn't really want to uh reenerate that, but I didn't realize I'm seriously yes. So I would always want to celebrate life with you. Of course, I always want you to know that. Man, I'm very, very proud of you. I'm proud of you. Know you deserve all the accolades, but just be clear that role. A lot of people just see the success of you, they see from here and then they see here. They don't understand the journey to do that, and me being who I am, I know how hard it is and right now, being a rappers the most dangerous job job on Earth. I'm gonna end on that with that, like what like at first, I think Jim Jones said it. Jim Jones said being a rapper is one of the most dangerous jobs, and all the people from the military you know, they came in and they condemned Jim Jones and and then within two weeks like because we was making it knowing like yo, listen, the reason why we're saying this, We're not saying the military isn't dangerous. YEA say, we know the militaries day, but y'all at war. They actually signed a contract to the war. We signed a contract to make our life better. And we're in the war that we don't even know whe're fighting. So do you agree with that? Like, yeah, broken, I don't want to know cash, you just want to kill you, Like you know what I'm saying. Jay Z said the best as you're a target when you step outside, from the moment you walk outside to the moment you come back home, you ain't guarantee you know, I mean you already not guaranteed then, but this ship is like you know, you don't come like you said, like every rapper then lost somebody in their coup, right, it was like that's like almost a guarantee. Come with the resume. One of your things gonna die when you're getting in there, Like you know what I'm saying, So go out for bid. So that's that's how it is. You know what I'm saying. You gotta move right. Yeah, you gotta move right, man, And and it goes it's like experience drop that. No, that's just better than you. You know, ain't no matter Nah, that's not right, And no matter of security gonna save you. Because at the end of the day, I don't I don't care if you're paying security. Yeah, somebody pulling him out. You're talking about somebody pull a gun out on your security is not jumping in front of the bullet. You're thinking about that that thousands, two thousand, five hundred. You're paying them a day. And he's like, nah, you need somebody. That's one off for you. The stuff of that Russian Puff used to have it around him. Yeah, and I understand, Yeah, Puff got something, but it's him. Shoot, that's some AWA and he was shooting. I think it is humility. Man. You got some awescenarios. He got some people that got called the land, you know, because when they're not catching he got one of the Navy seals like that type of vibe. Yeah, we heard it again again. They got some people that called the land. That's what the people that caught black people black opspotes so they're the ones that Yeah, I think he said black. He got the people that they call up in Latin call. I was like, wow, they called him because you don't see that cast a meal pus a year. But you gotta understand, you know, puff history. What I'm saying, like, that's that's what the album is called. They got they got amnesia. Like the biggest beefs was puff beef and hip hop to me, to date, people died over there, you know what I'm saying. But that's the biggest beef. That that that beef made hip hop. There's still no bigger moment than that moment in hip hop East Coast, West coast. You didn't make it better though, The beef didn't make it better, No, that's what I'm saying. But but it drew um Young Dolf streams went up to a hundred. Yeah, since he passed away. That's not it didn't make that's not saying no, it's not, it's not. But it's not about right or wrong. I'm all about what that id What I'm saying, that's that's that was the biggest moment. It wasn't the right thing, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so puff learned from that. Back to what I was saying, he learned from that, and that's why his security is he should have he should have that security. But that but definitely you need you need, you need a homeboy. That's why most of the people you see with security will still have they shoot it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's the point because I heard at one point you was leaving sues out of a Cadillac truck and you was letting it go. Is that true? No comments, very true, public, very true. I had to let it go a couple of times. But you know that's that's that's that's the thing. I mean. Look, if you're not if you're not ready to die for yourself, nobody was gonna be ready to die for you. When I heard no Cara Zack, I haven't seen your brother. What's your zac and Morocco? Yeah, stut Zack. Okay, Well, French you got anything? I think I don't think. We pretty much wrapped it up, man, anything man I think. By the way, I'm a Frenchman, a fan. We just let me just say something. Man, I was nervous. I'm gonna tell you why I was nervous, because us It's nothing I don't like the new Eminem. I like the high evenet. There's no disrespect to him, and it's not that I can never live eminem life. So by me saying I want him to take a molly, that's big, maybe he could, you know, make a little blunt that's me for his music, that's for me. So I got nervous. I said, damn, I love lock Jaw, and I mean, so how can Frank do it? But you know what's what's what you got going for you? Your focusedness is replacing the highness, the highness that I'm used to that out or walk from you. It's so focused because like after Melbourne Flint, my words used to serve because I used to drink so I could literally hear. I had to punch in right there. When I listened to the Melbourne Flint, I'm like, I don't even want to listen to that because I know where I was, what I was. So when I'm listening to Yeah, I'm I'm telling you this morning, I'm walking, just taking a walk, and I'm just like, I listened to it last night and I stopped on panicking when we gotta panicking, But I stopped there and I was like, I'm gonna catch him. And I woke up this morning, I'm walking around like, damn, motherfucker got one slurer on there, Crispy Crispy. So what I say that to say, it's a compliment because what you did for me, what Eminem wasn't able to do for me, meaning because I'm a big him and the fam as well. But I wanted him to still be like raunchy and all that. I feel like you kind of like still covered all the ground. What you got shot and there and then more and and got focused. Was that something you deliberately did? Um? I mean when I was first making music, I was like that, you know, I mean then, but then when the money start coming in, I just started getting blasted. But I think after I got shot, start getting blasted, it was like a nerve shot. I got skinny, start smoking bogy. He started drinking. Yeah, definitely, when I got prayed for me, I was making I was making music like that to me and me and Chink started making music. Get blasted. Me and Max. Max is going through trial, so we was drinking a guy in the any of the day, like I felt like I was going through trial with him, and said what was. But so you make paying music and and and you know when you're making when you're making that type of music, you know, liquor store look closer than the mosque. You know what I'm saying. So so so so definitely that was That's why you know, I got into it. But then it got to a point where it's like I couldn't even like you said after melboun Flint, like we got to that point with me, like when I started making the Montana album that I man slur all over. But then I was like, you know what, let me get back to the essence. But I'm more yeah, more of a and you too, you know what I'm saying me being a fan of you, I know that we we love production. It's the most most important thing. And I'm saying the beat this trash we're not on so we already that's how we've been winning regardless. But if you sharpen in the lyrics and thenn't delivering, I just had to get back in my bronx bag because you said it was the crazy is that that? That was the time where I learned it Farrell was a producer as opposed to person who make the beats. Yeah, because he listened to I think um for like five records on about the flat or four or five or four records. If you listen to that, that's the only records I don't sound drunk. Yeah, And it wasn't because I wasn't drunk. He made you. It wasn't because I was. Yeah, like he he actually made me go in and listen. I was drunk the whole album. So it's not like he could say coming sober. I wasn't listening to nobody. I was plotting them. I was like, fuck, but what mel did he tell you to? You like what he's legend with the ship homeboy? No, no, um um no. That was the Jungle Brothers, his homeboy. He told me. He told me, he said, he said, studied the Jungle Brothers and just the flow, not the words. So if you listen to the Jungle Brothers, they go uncle saying Mike g say what a jointed slam with his manager Chris sound System stated at all listen to my joint and all poppy say what that is the man? Ain't you dudes heard? Grabbing man? He sold your wife listen. So he gave me So I just studied that he gave me. He gave me um. So he told me to study this other record. He was like this, this is just before this. He's like, I want you to study Ice Ice Baby took it, so I'm trying to study it. Your so like and then he goes tranches to the bar. So go bro and go to see this, stating the guys, you know what record that is hollaback younger, Now think about that, this is the Ice Heights of Baby. It's the same exact record. And listen. He goes stop because and listen that it's the same exact the words are different, the same exact flower. I ain't got you. Listen. I never argue. I never would argue with someone so many times though about I'm talking about I don't know I'm describing that. I argue with it so much. I was like, what is your problem? I don't want to bite the Jungle Brothers And he's like, you're not buying the Jungles, you're taking the flow. No words. The only word I actually used from the Junger brother was the manager Chris, because they were talking about their manager, Chris Fool was Chris likely back down and my manager Chris was still to just the only thing I'm waiting for is that project with you? For real, I'm as an n f T. I ain't gonna lie. I looked at my you the other day. I picked up but I got five round beats and I said, he does not on these incoming back? Yeah, yeah, but friends again, man um album one of the most focused I've ever seen you. I want to congratulate you, to tell you you focused. I want to tell you your inspiration. And I love the fact that you know a lot of people who do get sober, do get focused, and they stay away and they stay home. Like when I'm so mix you you mixing baby, it's not it's not two years in so yeah yeah, So I mean, I mean definitely. I mean, look, opportunities slip right by you if you're not if you're not focusing. What I'm saying, I mean, you look at fifty fifty minutes best music, SOB fifty never got drunk. Yeah, he made his best music sover. One thing, one thing I can say is that say it. But every time, like you know, when Robin Don comes around and stop everything, So I was stopping cold away. So I was always he can stop whatever he wanted, it didn't matter. He stopped so that that that one month a year used to used to help me out for the whole year, that that would kind of like press my reset button and save me. That was not used the plane you knew you had already. Yeah, and you never not did roma don like like you Yeah, no show none of that even even even when I was on the pills when I went down comes but wow, stop knocking at all. Yeah, that's all out. That's really so now he's robbing seven. Yeah, and we need to get you on RABA dog because I feel like, like, like even though with your career, right, don't you feel like when you was getting drunk getting twisted this and that you missed out a lot of opportunities that you feel like when I was outside that's drunk right now I'm getting money back then you know what I would would do? You know, it's crazy. I looked at um best in my life, right, I dropped in a R E album, UM, and I did not know who was at my album at least part Yeah, that that that was sucked up like MTV strow me and I was like, oh shoot, I had my party. I didn't know like d Mexican even. I was like, really, I was worried about eat money bags and from the like make sure everybody backs getting and I got nas and all these people. But now you're navigating better. Yeah. Yeah, I still get drunk through friends. Will be honest. I'm like, I'm a balanced type of guy. But throughout time you navigated better. Yes, of course, of course. But yeah, when I was out there, and you know, it was really when I was hanging with this guy, Um, he used to give me all the drugs. I was let's be racist. Let school to that. You know, Latino's got the drug. Let's keep it. Let's keep you like that. But yeah, yeah we used to lock jaws. Would um, would you just give me? Just give me the human Yeah people drug seven days? Yeah, come on, come on this guy. Hey man, I don't know where this is going. I just noticed is a great interview. See this we're saying some of your people need to understand you can still have fun, you can still go out there, just get your life together. Man. You know what I'm saying, Certain certain people could do it, and what's that should call little portions, and certain people can't do it at all. Figure out who you are in this world. Don't do it for nobody else. You be you. No matter what you is in life, you be you. You know what I'm saying. If we see that submission, Montana is holding that smoke Champs joint, relaxed and make sure you're don't leave with dad. We don't want you to. I did take and then I'll do onto a couple of drops and sit like that. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by Yours truly, d J e f N and n O r E. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. Let's add Drink Champs across all platforms at the Real Noriegan I g at Noriega on Twitter, mine is at Who's Crazy on I g at d J e f N on Twitter, and most importantly, stay up to date with the latest releases, news and merch by going to drink Champs dot com. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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