Episode 276 w/ Silkk Da Shocker

Published Aug 27, 2021, 8:00 AM

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, we chop it up with the one and only Silkk the Shocker!

No Limit Records changed the game and Silkk the Shocker, shocked the game with his unique flow and style, becoming one of the hip-hop’s biggest artists.

Silkk shares his origin story, talks about working with JAY Z, using music to elevate his other business ventures, creating movies and more.

Silkk the Shocker also shares stories of when No Limit Records was on top of the world!

Jack Thriller joins the conversation.

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Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chats motherfucking podcast. Mason, He's a legendary Queen's rappers. He's agreed, is your boy in O R? He's a Miami hippop pioneer. Up is d J e f N. Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and yet number one sorts for drunk fast Drink Mother is New year' z just time for Drinking Champs. Trink Up, motherfuck mother? Would it good? Be Hopeully's want to say, this is your boy in O R? What up is d J e f N? And this drink Chats motherfucker? Amaze up that when I'll tell you, when I'll tell you. This guy, this, this person that's standing next to me has one of the most unique, one of the most brilliant, one of the most loyal stories in the hip hop from five O four Boys to you know the Hot Boys, to to to being a no limit soldier to ride in the out selling millions in records from them the guys being the first people to drop an album every week, every month, on every week I've never seen nothing like that, never seen nothing like that prior to that, and I've never seen nothing like that after that. These guys were one of one. They are a one of one. We had the Big Colonel on here. He didn't swear. He was the only artist that we had here that did not swear. Master me and the a was broke. He was trying get him the sweat bad, he was trying to get him the drink, and he did not swear at all. And now we got the motherfucker. So the motherfucker shocking up. So so let me let me ask you off top. Did you watch versus Last Light? I did? I did? Did? Okay, al right, First off, who did you think was gonna win? Um? I kind of was on the fence. I thought it was gonna be a tight one. I mean, I like the dip set um, but I also think the locks is underrated and stupid good too. So um, so you said you went into the game with no no things. Okay, I know, But then what happened when you watched it? Keep watch? I mean it s thought it was like it started off a little flimsy and it just kept getting like you know, and I was so rude for the dip set because I think that they dope. But I think that presence was so crazy from everybody, but man, when when kisses, he opened the thing up, He open up. He opened that thing up. Man. So there's there's two things that I learned real fast in life. One, I don't like have a heart in the gym at all. Every time I see heart in the gym, he's just like this tough guy, like he's nothing like how don heart never want to be in the gym, and a guy just I just don't want to Just don't train up. He know, none of them together. Don't like it, don't like it, don't like it. And I don't want to battle to kiss on stage. That's also learned that like he his stage presidence, it's like the more that he starts getting into it, like like did you see like when they played the New York City and he just had to New York record by said you ain't get no girl records and he said, I got yo. They DJ was they rehearsed they did? They? Yeah, well silk to a person, Oh that's a I would do it. Versus At first I was like nah, but I like what they're doing, so they also appreciate each other in the celebration. And then it's also um good camaraderie to against each other too. So I get down to I got the perfect Maty. I'm just messing. That's brought up. It's been up, got the perfect math. Okay, that's what you got, juvenile m Okay, we're starting to trouble right here. We signed it up. Are shot because you know, I watched it No Limit documentary obviously, and this was something. There's something because I watched it this time knowing that you was coming here. But I watched it before and this is something that blew over my mind. I didn't I didn't understand he said that. He said when cash money came to sign to Priority, I believe it was he said, they don't sign him there, don't sign him because and most people say why he say, don't siund him. That sounds like some hater ship. But then if you hear what master Peace said after that, he said, don't sign them you you might get them killed. Or I might have saved their life because they said that Talio and Magnolia, it was really added that much that if they were designed to them that's that's what it alluded to. I might be like, you know, putting a hunt on tenants, but described to us for that because you guys from the Callio, right, I didn't there from the Macmagnolia, right, So it really wasn't a cash money uh no limit be it was. It was described to us for people who have never been to New Orleans. Um it's funny because um, it is a serious thing. So if you if you're in the Calio back then in Magnolia, was like we was right by each other. Though it was almost like that's than a mile to away, maybe two miles away, three miles away, so but it was real and we didn't understand it because, um it was so the city was so small, right, so if like you might be from there, but you walk in two or three miles, you gotta go to school, you gotta do whatever. So somebody hit your man and then you hit them. But but you know what, the crazy started off as fights and then somebody just up to the one the rest, right, and then it's like boom, somebody got killed and then that person you know, and it it just got it got stupid big. Because yeah, it's like one year I think it was murder capital of the world and that was any any city. So it was just crazy. And then so they took a real serious so we really I had people, actually my my had family in the Magnolia that I couldn't even go see. You couldn't see. I couldn't go see and I and that was like as when you're young, you're thinking, like mine, I can't go. But it was that serious because if you know, if you lost somebody, they lost somebody, it's serious for them. And it kept going on for like and it took I think it took that into us being the Callio side, but really we was New Orleans, but it took us being from the Calio and them being from the I mean us been to Callia Magnoia. They said, okay, you know limited this and then cash money is that. But it wasn't like it wasn't that enough cash money was doing anything. It was cool and everything was working. So it was it was it was it was one hunting. So also when I'm watching the documentary, it said it says that, I mean, they didn't say this out right it but it was like, yo, if if he would have stuck with the music, It would have been a lot harder for cash Money because you know, he was doing so much things. He was doing the basketball thing, he was doing all that. Do you think that's that's that's true or um, I think it's I think it's more like, Um, I think it happens, are supposed to happen. I think I think Cashman everybody and cash Money is dope. So I think they would eventually probably came up. But at that time we just had it on lock. But that you know, I was gonna be somebody come behind you. So I think it would have probably happened. But I think it happened a little faster, probably because we were into movies, films, you know, stuff like that, so it probably gave him a little a little more door open. But it's handly enough to probably eventually make it for sure. You know what I'm saying. You know, it's the illative watching the documentary, Like I said, I we iterated to watch it again. Well, they said that even the Fiends was real fees everything was crack hands really don't yeah, everything was real a thing you the money, everything was your documentary. You know, it was crazy. Um, And I'm gonna say this with with great ignorance. We didn't identify who where it was because all we knew at the time was East coast, West coast, So were just like all right that we don't know what that's at, like we just because we because And that was like the first time definitivety like I know for the East Coast, I know you you represent in Miami, Miami. I don't know how you guys spelt it out there, like we knew that New Orleans was a crazy fucking place, just too bout about it, like the crackhead um, like we had not heard of this ship. We had not like we didn't even know music. Asked to poor art a tech sis then do you understand what I'm saying? So, so what wasn't when you guys came out. Was it like trying to please the East coast trying to please the West coast? It was just like, you know what, let us just stick to our guns. Period. You know what happened nor real talk. It was we was in New Orleans, but we wasn't making New Orleans music. So if you look back, it was more about bounced music. It was p pop or whatever that was that was New Orleans right, but we was in the streets and in the trenches with it. So we wanted to make um, you know, like the Tupac music, you know, like that type of He was like, right, but they wasn't really hearing it, and we had to kind of broaden our think that's where the various stuff came in. That where yeah Richmond as well. Right, Yeah, So that so US US in New Orleans was more. Um, it was a different kind of music that we was. We was a part of it, but we was trying to figure out how can we brand out? So we watched the East coast, we watched the West coast. Think we took a trip to the West coast and that kind of had a little more influence on us. Look, so now Jack Thriller, we're speaking to Jack Thriller and describe you. Then Jack Twitter said, because Silk is like the Richie Richard what what what does he mean by that? The artist Richard or the cartoon. I think he's going for the cartol. What does he mean by that? I don't know. I mean j Champagne fill up a couple. But now Jack, I've been on Jack for a long time and so, um, what he does know is that you know, I work hard and and I'm behind the scenes on a lot of stuff too, So to do some movies, right, A lot of stuff, like a lot of you know, the tour stuff and all that. I put that on. We have no limits, took Sottle soot got that you gotta sit it up. Don't yet so you got no limit to all you said, put the tour out the tours. I've been doing pretty good. Yeah, it's been crazy, but the pandemic stopped a lot of it. But now it's back started back up, and um, I want to say September October we everywhere were like the Hawks play every and um Pelicans. So we're doing like you know, we're doing pretty good with it. Um so just behind it. So he knows me as really doing business and getting it done. So I think that he means like but a lot of people don't see a lot of me, so they're like, oh, what's silk up to him? But I really get I get busy, man, because because I see a lot of rappers. See I guess what he's saying this. You know a lot of rappers we get a three, four or five years run. But the person that gets it's a twenty year run. You either really rich, but really really bro I'm good, I'll tell you that that I'm saying. But you know, and I think that's what it is. I was able to. Um, you know, I don't really look at stuff that we did in the past. I try to keep it consistent what I could do to day. So I think that what I do bring to the table I will always be somebody who could redefine itself. I mean music wise, I mean music can change, but business and doing we did it's the same thing. And I don't even talk about like what we did, how much money you made. I'm talking about consistently be able to do it. Like you could find a new hustle every day and make it work, but you could use a plot the same principles and working hard and being innovative. It's gonna always be the recipe for sex success. And it seemed like y'all were just using music to get to these other businesses at one point. Yeah, I mean most people are the smart ones doing that. Um, you take a Beyonce, you take um a Drake or whatever. They got so many deals off the table, off the court, I say, in basketball um that I'm saying. So she nothing to do with what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying. But she could use her brand and and look at Jake with the aspad whatever you know, Rick, whatever, you can say, everything to do with music, because that's the platform that helps her. Yeah yeah, network, yeah, take and take that. I think that's the success right there, Like because she's such a dope all them such a dope musical artists. Um, that's a fan base right there. So you'd like saying, so even or he got his base, they're watching and did he spend his base? You know what I'm saying. And I think that's the restipe for a success. So I don't think that. And me, I still make money off of like my old music, but I'm also still making money off of doing shows. That's gonna be no matter what. I still can playing my fault and keeping So that's that's because so I gotta ask this question. I want you to be one who was the first hot boys because it was confusing us being on the East Coast. You got hot boys, y'all hot boys, and now waiting there's a hot boys too. I feel like there was more hot boys than just keep it. So you know what it was, Um, I mean I give it to them. I think I give it to him, yeah, because I mean but but it was a had a hot boy movie. Ye. But it was a cultural thing. Um I think yeah, and you know everybody, I'm a hot boy, this hotboy, rich, hotboy, round on hot boy nor you Okay, what does that mean? Hot boy? That means like the man in the city. You know what I'm saying. Like if you say he's a hot boy in New York, and that means that he's either snitching all um, he's hot like the police is looking for him. Yeah, that's why it was. It was a totally different sling when they was like, it's a hot boy like and then there was two of y'all. It was two different sets. I would say, Uh, it's more of the pop. They're looking for us. We're on fire, you know what I'm saying. We got the city on you know, we're doing out, we're hustling, we all here making stuff happen. That's what it was. So that's for the whole city, you know what I'm saying. That was the city. So, um, it was just it was just that's what's that ever describancy of cash money because y'all called each other hot boys, um or not? Never was, but we haven't spoke about it. But we respect them as the hot boys, So I don't. Um. The movie was more about the city of Nuance being that, like what's determent? And he scopes they used like let's say four for honybody just anything he lit? I don't know, Okay, So I say we make the movie called he Lit? Who is it? Who runs it? Like who owns it? So it was more of that, But it's all it was all up. It's all respect though as far as them as a group, so it was all what was both of the crews. Obviously it was it was no limit first right that nationally? Yeah, and then cash Mare did that amplify the beat between the two hoods the music being so big nationally. I don't even know. I think like it was the same regardless. Um, it was just bad overall, you know what I'm saying. It was tough. Um, there was a lot of people. Um, but I would saying if if it was, I didn't I didn't hear about. It was just more street stuff, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's crazy. So but holy Motor crockle motially getting any you ready and then a come on, god damn it, holy my got notes, man, I got notes. That's good. Let's ok this. This was something that was the beat by the Pound. Okay, what was choc and Kylicole? I believe it, no chaos. I think it was klc odn um moby uh. I think Craig being some other people like it was. It was a bunchet. Now. So so when you look at all the first albums, all of you guys, it's all produced by the same producers. Then you guys weak this heavy heavy heavy plateau uh and then all of a sudden when you look at the documentary, it was actually like I think p on the phone, it was like, Okay, you don't want to work with us, but that's it. And it was simply like that is that walk with You're going to the studio every day with the same producers, and then you you're going to that same studio and then it produces is gone. But I know you developed a relationship at least a sound definitely developed the sound sound. Yeah, yeah, you know it was and you know you adjust to it. Um but you know when you have that's like dre and snoop or whatever. You know what I'm saying, You have it, um, and you know to go to walk, I'm gonna go to where I'm gonna go hit you know, blah blah blah. So it's kind of like one of those things where you have to get over that and then how you how you redeveloped the sound when you have a hot sound And that was the most. That was the toughest thing. And then you know the people so you kind of cool with everybody. Um, but yeah, I think that's the most. But was that a business lesson? Because um, because at times I'm sure you you can't agree with everything, Pete, do you know what I'm saying? And um, was that Was there ever a time where he was like damn, I wish he would have did this or did that? Like was that one of them or No? For me at the time, it wasn't that because I didn't know about it. I'm just kind of artists, respecting in everybody's face and kind of like doing my thing. You know, I'm I'm doing what I'm doing. So end of the day, you know, he is in control and so I just I just kind of whatever he kind of went with, That's what it was at that point. So what whatnot that I personally knew at the time, So I couldn't say if he did it right or wrong. He might have had a justification for or not. Just I don't know what he had for it. But yeah, that was something I guess at the time it happened, you know what I'm saying. Okay, something that we we've never had a chance to speak about on on this show. It's Soldier Slim. Soldier Slim is so much of a legend I've re met, but you know, me hearing about him, and I remember him him like for lack of up at a term, like from when we first heard it, like like I heard of y'all, like that was one of the first him and c Murder really just like those dudes are really street, like that really really really street. And so just sim obviously he lost his life to the state streets. So un speak about Soldier Slim because we never like spoke about him. Yeah, not Soldier was dope, man. He was like before his time he was I mean I was cool with him. I ain't had a chance to really like no, you know, really deep into him. But the streets loved them, um, his hood loved them, and they he had this aura about them where it was just he could just do it and you feel him because you know he'd been there in the chances with it. So it was dope man. So he was against first rapper. Second, he definitely was a bit of a gamester, but you know, not really you know, to the point where it's just like doing like that. It was like, yeah, you know, mess with me. You know, its own. It's it's up there, so that's it. But you gotta respect that though. So sure, now Murder, I met See Murder, I met Comfort. I'll tell you a second time I met See. I think this is right after y'all sign snoop. This is after the incident happened and whatever was that. And we had the Sauce Awards and I've seen NASA day before and I was telling me, you'll come on my bus and I go on the bus and there with a TikTok sounds like the sound about right, that's the last taking walking on nas bus. And I'm sitting and they had a real relationship. I'm sitting how they talked to each other. And I was like, but that's something like you don't see no fitches with Nazis. You don't see like that. Did you know about that they have? I didn't know about it, but I know, see what pop up? Man? He bet with everybody like, um, I think many all got a super love relationship for him. Um it's like random like like you mess with everything, like every like glue to. Everybody got a you know, they got a dreamine love for him. So I could imagine that and then naz Is one hunting two so I could. I could see them too, tr you know, tru right. Um, it was a little describancy. Um, you know obviously everyone knows that that was that would see murders prove Yeah, uh to change Yeah comes out to your basically to all you did they ever worked out out? Or Um? They actually did. Man, they talked on the phone, Um, squared it away, got you know, you know, kept it. It's all cool. I think it was more of like a misunderstand I think it was more like a respect thing where it's like I think that the meanings are different, but it is the same, you know. And I think that he took that to offense. What but then once they talked, I think they was cool. I think to change saluted them um and say it wasn't you know, the big deal and so um they both worked it out and I think they're really cool. Now for sure, make some most that. Yeah, that's the uist Papa Jesus going that, I'm ready to do some shots. You're ready to do some shots? All right? Cool? No, I got the crazy shot? Alright, what is that? Listen? I'm not at all. Yeah, I'm not. I don't even if I got on my fingers. I went to I went to what is moon shot? Holy? Okay, it's just crazy. So before we get into this, before we get into that, right, I said, the five of Four Boys, right, okay? Oh you dated Monica to write no Controversial. No, no, no, not that that's seen girl like, oh that's right, that's yeah at all. She was talking to a lot of At one point, I knew I came here. I knew. I can't think I came for nor you was a sex symbol at one point. At one point every check in the game, he was running around with a point or something like that. A little bit take a shot some good ship, Um, you want some rocket um, you want something. Oh yeah, you're some heavier ship. Are you your showing? I might be like completely? So you take a shot here, take you want to take it? Cool? Give me one day, give me one give me another cup. M up. Now that's that ship felt like it was crushed. Oh no, it's good. I'm good. Come on, come on, we're gonna motherfucker. I don't We don't know if you know what our shows about, our shows about giving people they flowers, but they're alive. You know what I'm saying, Your motherfucker less. You beat me at every category, and we're gonna talk about that. But we're still good. Were good. We heard you beat me at every category that you know. It's the best year of my life. Damn for you. Let me show you me fun no, no me plug corrupt Cort. But Dad's was with him and every award we came up, you came up and it was like still shot. Yeah. He was like, damn, I'm nigga, Like I didn't win. That's because then you would never go to awards. Don't more. I was brought up like every other episode I argue with been, you know, like this is like I had nothing to do. With anything, like we're arguing about ice cream or some stuff ship and I'm like, I'll never forgive you for the SI Awards. He's like, what are you about? But we would joke about before that. You're talking about you knocking down a lot of such a thing back in the days because what you gotta You're married now, I'm definitely, but we had to pass. So you know, he was thinking about a lot of things, right, would you put it like that? Yeah, sure, but setting it up for him to want to answer, yeah, that's good. That's a good up. Definitely before my serious relationship now for sure. But now I'm no, I'm just I would have a lot of I have friends and stuff like that. Yeah, because like I'm not gonna he's good. He's good. He's I'm not gonna lie. They had you in like jay Z category type of style, like it was like, no, I'm that serious, Like yeah, no, I'm that serious like you. He's like, I'm telling you, I'm telling you. Like at one point when we were all on that cover, like there were people telling us not Silk, You're not on Silk's level, and we were like really, They're like, yo, he going to be compared to jay Z. I swear to god, there was like this, the amount of chicks he was knocking down. I'm just saying, it's the room on the street, you know, you know what, man, so no limit. Man, I ain't gonna lie. It must have been a lot of coupies around. I mean, this is back in the days, a lot of a lot of groups. What what's your favorite groupie story? Oh? Then, I mean I wasn't really into it like that because I was like more, um, just trying to stay out of it. Black. You would come to the hotel and stuff and it would be just like a bunch of women and then be they be at your door and then maybe it's like so I didn't I was I don't really like that too much myself personal, but that was it was. It was just so what you do and say it ain't my fault. I would definitely say I get out of here. But I wasn't really like but it was there. It was just you know, and at that moment you don't really know what it is. You just you want the motion. But you are successful. So at that time, the same thing right now it will be the same thing as now. It's just like they're gonna come. So what was it? So, yeah, you ain't give a fun? Not did I didn't. I was just trying to get to the bag and have fun and live life. That's about it. Just focused focused on. How about Mystical? You ever seen Mysical? I know I didn't. That's not like a t but Msical it was like we was young. I mean ms school was just like every other body. He was just like randomly you know, he just have fun, you know, just living his life. I was. I was not a private to that because I'm doing my own thing. But now shout out to Mysical with right, what's up? Man had the All Star team, All Star team? Yeah, all Star team. Back to this record when you maybe that was real ship. That was real ship. Um, so you know we've been good, We've been good. Listen, leten, let me tell you something. I'm the definition of hate the game and never the always like I always blame the sorce I did. But what Ben'll tell you that he was like they were paying two hundred and fifty. I was like, he did not say I gave them the war. He never said he said, he said, of course, my loyalty was kind of with them like they was buying two hundred and fifty tho ads at the time. And but he's never said I gave them an award. I can't ever take that from you. I can't. I'm an honest person. So let me get a plan. Let me get a plank divorce. You got one, brother, Let's go baby, Let's go. So and that album was it charged to the game? Was neither charge the game? I made man one of those? No, it was charged. Yeah, I think tried the game mat Ja Z on it, but that's not the one. May man man Because I just heard a record with you. You said, don't compare jay Z the Kodak. Oh that was another record. But I did do a song with jay Z. We're Gonna get you. That got that question? Okay, hold on, So you said don't compare jay Z. What was the act? So I'm um, I'm more. No hold on when I say, um, don't compare jay Z to Kodak. But I think I think I'm more. But I'm more because I'm more a coach. Now I'm gonna cooreack than jay Z or jay Z didn't Kodak. I think I flipped it so bad, both men. So um, you can't compare to two, but I was saying that, Um, but I'm more Kodak. I gotta get that line. It's a good one. I gotta figure that. You gotta figure that part out. You don't got the record that has That was a bit just slipped on us. We didn't, we didn't, We wasn't prepared. It was just I'm on jay Z and Kodak. So it's on, it's on, It's on all makes sense later album. Personally, it's a pretty good line on me. So so that's recent because recent? So, um, you are you? You like Koda? Because that as an artist? I met him, I met him. He's out of his mind, like met I've met Kodak. In the restaurant, he brought his own chicken. Let's make some noise for heads. Anybody own chicken? That the show We get a Prime one twelve and he said, here's some of that hasty chicken. Boy. I said this nick it overmind me of a rich sunny. He bought his own chicken. Listen. Listen, by the way, Prime one twelve is a pretty great restaurant. The crib. I don't know, he just said, this is that hastry chicken boy. I said, oh, I just cooked the way he wanted it. No, he had in the white ship. This is the look the all getting food kings come in. He had his own ship. I looked. I said, this is this is this is probed boys. Man, he said, boys stay different. Man, he's definitely different. Yeah, he's a different dude. Man. Would you like to work with new artists like that? I do, Um, But I see it's so many talented artists. I'm like, man, it's a lot of good ones too, so it's kind of good to keep seeing it redeveloped. Most people are like, oh, man, want to s be stuck in the time where that's the area that they like. But I'm like, you know, artist talents. You can tell you I don't have his country rock whatever. I feel it's talent, that's it. And people like Kodak, you know, sometimes a little bit um they do something they wig um, but still the talent is there though. No, no, no, that's that's that's I fun with him. Crazy is the mother so um? All right, Okay, yeah, my block, the yell block, that's yep, that's the one that's that's the rector with Jay z Okay, how did this happen? So you know what um Jay I mean. So it's funny that j is like, um successful back you know, back then he had the work ethics of I don't know, but I'm saying what I'm saying because it's the people who have that kind of determination and drive. It takes him a while. But like like even like going jadakass you say, like Jadak has been dope, right, but I think yesterday proves to everybody else that who didn't know how dope he was. Right. So he's great actually, but he's been great though, right. So so what j is like even from the first time at Priority whatever he was doing whatever he's trying to look for a deal or whatever, I don't even that quick he was. He was the quick. But what happened was, um, it's a it's a funny story. It's like I wanted Jake. Nobody really knew what JA at the time, but I kind of wanted before and then it kind of worked out. We got together and um, and so I'm like, y'all need this song, and and by that time, by time I actually got to it, JA was kind of popping a little more and rest in piece of DMX too. I think, um, it's supposed to be me, me, DMX and j on the record, and you know, the DMX was like, I got you. You know what I'm saying, not to say I got you, right, And I think what happened I had had watching us right there. Look he's watching my guy. You know what I'm But so what happened was, um, my album had remember the um what's the it was a it was a tour that jay z n DMX was on. Um, um no, it was right, that's the one. So what happened was my album ppposed to be turned in on a Thursday at tenant eleven am, and um, I think, um, the conta tour was over Wednesday night. Okay, so Wednesday night and I needed, I say, I need to say. By Thursday we were masking it right so here no, no, he's he's he's in. He's at the concert. He's a concert. And he was like, UM, I got you. But you know it's funny because he um uh left the show. I think immediately went back and and knocked it out like a couple like three or four in the morning and sent it. You know what I'm saying. And for you to make the time and the time. I'm saying like, and he could have just been you know, and I'm I'm tied. I just dropped the show and slip the d MX two. He even really want to do it, but you know, he just probably was like, I'm gonna get in the morning. I didn't have time to do it, so I just had to go with boom with Jay gay Man. He came through Man and I hit j I'm like, yo, because Jake killed it. I'm like, yeah, how am I told you? Jay life and even nothing. I was about to get my hunted. He was like, He's like, no, we're good on the house. So um and it's good because he asked me to do something. I did something for him. So it was it was dope. It was dope situation. Jay solid man, Jay's all the solid Just be clear. He just said I was gonna give my honey. Let's just be clear. I was, Yeah, that was one thing that was known. That's like the difference and I don't I don't want to bring up the other company, but one one company is kind of known for not paying people. And then I mean, I'm sorry, you don't hit the rumor it's just me, no problem, I'll take it all right. But and then master p and no Limit was known for the exact opposite, for paying the artists for everyone like even if you look at that said everyone gotta watch, everyone got a car, everyone got a house in their name, not just a house of watching in a car and someone else's name, that they can always take it away, which we heard that happened in death Row, which we heard that happened in these other companies. What what what what made you think that he wanted to do right by his artist? What made how do you develop that? I think that at the time, maybe not knowing, but just having the resources to do it, um, seemed like the right thing to do. And then I think, um, if you're making money, you should be able to pay you know, you pay the money, you know what I'm saying, because that's how you make more money. You keep keep it going. You don't want to, you know, not give somebody then they're not gonna work for you know what I'm saying. So I think that was that was for sure. That that's different, man, that's that's real, real, real, real different. Um. You know, even a sloop then you know, um, It bugged me out to hear Sloop say after I think it's after the Chronic and at the Doggie Style and at the summit that he was he was broken. He asked for thirty five hunter and then Massive Vega thirty five thousand, Like if that don't prove loyalty to you, like you immediately be become loyal to a person, like you know what I'm saying, Like that was that was ill? Like you never heard that, you never watched the documentary Okay, okay, okay, okay, that's why. That's why I didn't watch it when p came. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy. But yeah that so did you realize Like I spoke to Fat Joe yesterday right in fact, Joe said to me, he was like, yo, man, you should have came out here. I said, man, I had some good shot. I can't I can't leave, And he's like, so He's like, yo, but this is one of the moments where you in his to read and you know that this is history that you're careering. I asked you that, like, did you know when y'all was like on the top of the world and doing these albums week after week after week after week, even though you might have not been on the employee side, but that was your brother who was doing it. So you you got you gotta get credited for that. Anyway, did y'all know y'all was in the middle of history and what it was doing for the South to on top of the um At the time, we didn't really know. We was just hungary, had a plan executed it. And when I think when you do that and nobody else is doing that, because we were out work everybody, we'll be like going to sleep on the floor. We were the same closed ten days in a row, and we was like, keep paying us chicken, We're gonna come to the concert into it, you know I'm saying like we was like, oh you got filed out, was gonna So it was more like the work ethic. And I think that every time that we went somewhere like we would be like in a in the hood, right, like we're coming your hood and be like what y'all doing here? And people you know in the hood, they're like, yo, you ain't come back here. You can get it right. But we had we met people that was like, Yo, we're gonna let you slide this time. Because y'a all crazy, but we're gonna boty the CD. You know this, this is the people in the neighborhood. Who's who's who's talked that talking walk, that walk so um So that same thing with us. We was like in that moment, we didn't really know. We was just doing it. So when we come to New York and we passed out to see these you remember it. We go to we d C, we go to Florida, and so Bobby hitting that grassroot campaign. Every time we look up, we have a new base that's like, oh, I'm gonna get these guys. And we put the money back into the projects. So it was constantly putting it back, putting it back, and and then but you will also see people like, oh I like y'all. Now I really like y'all. And then that it was growing and it was like no declining because when you're gonna pick pick your first checkup, so you're in the hood, then you're gonn pick your first check up for this amount of money, and you did it on your own. You just say, oh, I made this happen with this, So you take the bulk of it again and put it back, and it kept on you know, you know, money, money, make stuff. I was telling Noora that I remember, I said, but I think it was nine. How can I be down? I remember you guys coming out here, and it was like it felt like it was a thousand of people wearing no limits, you know, like it was like it was just an impression that nothing impression on me for sure? You know, yeah that too? Yeah? So all right, then't this happens or one time where it seems like everyone's sleeping the lake? Right? I believe mystical left first. Um, then this is your brother, so I imagine you don't have no option to leave because you got to look at him and Thanksgiving. I imagine, I imagine I can't. I know, I wouldn't let my brother leave like you ain't going nowhere, like let me make mistakes with everyone else, but you staying. You know what I'm saying, because I think it happened like two or three times, because it's like a new load limit. But the first time it happened, you had to be eighteen something like that. You see all of your friends that you used to leave it. What is going through your minor? You're saying, this is business and you understanding that or you're saying, man like life, life is hitting you hard, because that's a good question. Um. At the time, I was just in it. Um. I don't think I really appreciated like what was going on around me. I was so locked in on what I was doing. I know that, I'm sure you know, some of the artists had a grievances. I'm sure you know. I'm sure everybody felt a certain way or whatever. So I was out of that loop of that. I just kind of went with the punchers and then me, you know at that time, kind of like the loyalty is with the family, um. And I didn't hear what they were saying. So I'm kind of like, yeah, whatever, I ain't trying to hear none of that stuff you're talking about. But I'm sure everybody had probably a reason that they thought they probably was, you know, but I wasn't priviged to it, so I was just looking at it like, oh, us against y'all, you know, or whatever. But you know, it wasn't really like that. It was just I don't know what the business part of it. They probably was just felt a certain way and with the don't know, I don't know, I stayed out of it, like like like one of the one of them the listen, dudes, I know it's it's Jungle, right because Jungle is not his brother. And when you see Jungle, when Jungle just walks on the street, just people that just get that Jungle just to get at his like like because that's something you ever had to go through, like people trying to get at you, to get at p or people trying to tell you their their their stories. Like I'm just giving. I'm just just saying like King and Able or something like come coming to you and saying, silk Man, you tell Peter let me go. He went do something like that before. Um, I'm sure I did. I remember many conversations where I'm talking to people and they have agreevance as good or bad. Some of them have a good sort of like I want to do this, and some of them have I guess stories where they're like I want to move and do this way. So um, yeah, that's that happens a couple of times, um, a lot of times. And I want I want to say something you shout you out too, because I heard that that you stay for your boy, So I appreciate it. And I was like you can do anywhere in the world and Jett and everything I said, I'm not doing this. It's still it's two and point because let me just say it, tell you something, like you know through all this ship, you know it was all in a good game, and you know me, you know you know because I just think, not just you personally, I just think I'm a better artist, right, like, not just you personally, but overall to anybody. So when you think like that, I didn't gonna have to go look at the numbers and you look and you say, damn, this motherfucker did those two million? I want to slow million that year, like you gotta just give it up for real, Like I did go platinum, but it was a slow platinum. I pun was a fast platinum. Um. DMX was the fastest platform I did. Have never seen nobody going fastest him and then didn't and then did it again that Yeah, but didn't you drop another album that yeah? Yeah? Man? Now I think that when I was sold the person, Yeah so you did with DMX did wow? A lot of people don't know that because I remember, I think, if I'm not wrong, Charted to the Game dropped in February. Uh, yeah, and see what when you google that has and then see what albums dropped. Because I believe you did the same for sure. So why are you so humble? Man? Um, I just feel make you take a shot and get some ship. I'm don't get you popping some ship? Oh my god? Fear And who was the same the album that he dropped that same year might have been maybe, man, that's the same year. It was very close, I know that much, or might be the beginning to Night Now I'm not sure. Let's say, yeah, you want seem a hip hop man? Come on, man, I'm glad I think that without Google too. I did that without Google Google. So do you do you know the impact that you made on the game? Do you know, like because I could see you a humble guy one million percent? Tell her I appreciate that. But like you know, buster buster bums. You always tell me they're like you like your humbleness, but that ship so from lack of I'm going to say to you, I like your humbles that. Do you know who you are in this game? Do you know what you really really did? Like on your own? Without you? Brother? I know? Good? No, you know it's funny bro? And we I had this conversation like a couple of nights ago, and you a ercent correct on it, and I'm black you brought up because I am humble, I am quiet, and we're just saying that we're actually doing some stuff where I'm gonna bring people to my everyday life, right because my reay life is crazy. But I really do know now what I did. And I shout out to all the artists, all the CEOs, all the people like, UM, shout out to um my guy, um quality control. He he really told me that. He's like Silk, you know you you're one of my favorite rappers, right, So so I mean, but some of the rappers, UM, I'm saying as well, what happened James Bond, you looked like, oh my god. Somebody said Jackie Coca, jack Coca. My god. What you're saying is and that's correct, And I think that's a that's a that's a flaw by you know, that's not really good. It's good to be that way, but but I ain't got it's good, humanly good. But honestly, I really do know what I did because all people tell me all the time, and I'm humble, but I'm like you that I'm about to get out of there because um, you know you you put the work in, and what a lot of people will say is, oh, you scused before your time too, you know. And then the artists. I love the artists too because even a newer generation, they they they kind of see what what we saw. So what I never was rapping off beat people just listening wrong, you know what I'm saying Like that was a big, big, big One of them things I always do is Twitter is like the most negative place to go in the world. So whatever I interview a artists, I always say, I'll go to Twitter and Twitter, but like y'all got sil the shocker, I got something sus and they always say the meanest thing in the world. So I'll take some of them now used for an interview. And one of the things I said is when I said I got cil the shaker immediately said, well, obvious he always ripping off beat and just as they were hearing it wrong, No for sure, No, no, listen to just think about it. If you back back and listen to it. Now. Everybody, when we wrapped like I used to wrap what I'm saying, they like and if people say you you you blue face fall lyrically, but blue faces don't don't don't know. Blue faces don't to me. But what I'm saying is when I said that, it was like, if it wasn't for silk, there would be no no blue face. But I feel like they're saying because the off beat thing, what do you think? That's exactly what they're saying. And but you're saying, not off beat, just a different pocket. Yeah, I'm you know, on the way that the floor was, it was just a different pocket. It was. It was so on point though, like right, um, and I did it that way on purpose. But I also did it that way because who wants the same thing, right, So but if you listen to it now, it makes sense and nobody wants to the same thing now, They're like, so we should go You gotta go back and do what you used to do before, because because not only the off beatness but also my screen I yell, my up, my down, all of it was designed and and if you listen to it now you would understand. Because you gotta be a person that says, listen, you don't like Keith Sweat, You're not gonna like them. If you don't like. Of course me too. But but if you don't like, um took a shot for seat that Jack to take a shot, anybody, did you put your gun and your shot glass? No that we're him, Okay, that way it's gonna be. Yeah, go on, good guy, you want a shot to want Man, that's your shot. Jack. You gotta make up. Look, you gotta make I gotta I don't make up. I'm gonna I won't remake. You got to fil shit. Come on, now, I ever got some of that luke in first class as ye, please let the bottom do gonna listening. Today we're gonna use you. Today, we're gonna shot the shot. I ain't try none of that ship and so I don't suggest you try to finish your shot. Finish your shot. This is so, this is a whole hole. It's all about you, Salo, Salo, all about you. Yeah, appreciate my guy kids appreciate it. So, Jack, we don't speak to you since a pizza push and fired you. Yeah, we we had, we had we had difficulties getting the new contract together. Okay, yeah, yeah, and so you know I'm moved. I'm trying to get my own pizza pussy ship going on. Yeah, I'm talking. It's only said pizza pussy. No no, no, no, man, no, I don't know the piece of pussy no more. You see, I didn't change the flow of my own my Instagram stories. You know it's no more ladies in there, no more. You used to be one of my favorite subscribers. You used to always be inside my my stories looking at the ladies. You said your wife was don't deal me. Were gonna go to you that scribe? We're gonna do, We're gonna do it. He scrabing my only fans. Come on, he's not the only one on the jack subscribed. I want the Jack. Yeah, yeah, I'm switching my ship up. I was married now yeah yeah, yeah, I'm w man lately from s w V. Hey, y'all first had a birthday, y'all say happy birthday, Happy birthday. She's a fan of the show. She hasn't had a forty for the eighth say she got to be older than me, God damn it, I'm forty three. Yeah she good at five years? Got that? Yeah, that's don't truk about man, don't don't, don't don't try to God damn all, what a r don't try to put on ain't nothing wrong with so let me ask you Jackie and asked every night, man, I I try to eat, ask as much as I can, Okay, in the evenings, in the morning, in the afternoons, I don't let do you eat as night? Do you eat your week? About you? Silly? Your wife, your lover. If you don't eat that, you gotta love everyone you eat well. I mean you roum the router to the two. You just wanted to push it and I wanted you just want to take it from that's what you want to down. They're had a song called Downtown you DC. You're very disrespectful right now here and crazy? What's up on? Selk the Shopper and Jack Thrillers here too as well. I said, you're very disrespectful here interviewing Silk the Shocker and Jack Thrillers here as well. All right, where it's funny, y'all. What what you're doing? What you was calling me for? I'm trying to figure it out, Okay, So pull up on me, yea man, fucking me and just come through. You got the job, nigger ship, Come on the job. Just come through like we're here. We're here, We're here, We're here, We're yeah, I'm better. Yeah, I'm playing on Yeah, and I'm concerned. Really, brother, that's the moon Sean. I mean that's what I said. I thought when Sean come white? This is on John second? Can it's a prune or something? Not an act that ain't a motherucking egg in this ship? Yeah? So what's up with the jacket? Oh man? So little check this out, man, this is to rate designs. You remember last time I came here and I blew your minds. That's not the same jacket trying the same jacket now? Was white last time? This time we had to go black. Michael Jackson bad. There was a new season a while and now while I was back to giving him for that, say season, Nick Kennon's back, Nick back bad. So we well this was a very special season a while. Now y'all know what happened to Nick and he got taken off the air for a minute. He got the thing right with the white folks and stuff and whatnot, and Vodkom put him back on. He had hit me up out of the blue, asked me that I want to be a part of the new season. Man. We told that Bitch Down this past June. It airs this week and I'm back on for the Sound Team season in New York into OCTOONA. Yeah, you know she is going my way. I got a new job with Nick Cannon. I run his podcast division, Incredible Podcasts and whatnot. I got four different podcasts on there, one with myself, Tyrn Turner and what Now y'all know him from Cane Get Us to Society, and Edie wins Low is called Escape Go. We got another podcast with me music Soul Child and uh Eddie wins Low Witch, James mcquarie and um, I'm sorry car painting, Car Paints Get it's a movie review again. I got my girl uh lately hit the powder Room with her Baby has Shade and h NICKI Nicole. It's called the powder Room. It's the ladies of a certain age talking about that cougar ship. You know what I'm saying, you know, menopause, you know, and then what it's like, you know, being at that point in your life and enjoying yourself. Yeah yeah, and one more, one more podcast. You know. It's it's my girl girl kids, my girl kids step friends because her kids my age. You know what I'm saying, so they can't call me dady. So they're my step friends and whatnot. And that's where Kyle Shine and market Lyons step freeings. Okay, they're my self friendings. Let's check your listen. I'm still looking for a watch right now. I'm still looking at you. No, I've just been shopping. It's just you know, you for the fake ship men rob me for the fake ship. Nickel said, I took that. They don't understand it was just three fifty. I only spend three fifth on the ship. You know what I'm saying. So I got like tim om at the house. So keep you gonna keep prav you know that's what it is. I'm keeping my for the grant in my pocket. Nick's name. Yeah, I guess hanging with this guy. And I'm still new manager to man. You see, I got like, like, oh my god, man, so any book is for sil the shop? Did Silk put you in the movie? You? And um? Yes, more money Motion the Little do Ye Trace, Little Michael Blackson was Tracy was in it? Um, but Michael Blacks was in it. G thing was in it? Um? What are not on a j but what jay Len mind ja jail dog yeah, he don't put you on. Yeah, keep thousand and six, he puts you on thousand and six A man, let's wait and you wait the Middle Family with me for minute, man master. People put me in Hood Starts a comedy back in two thousand and six with my Michael Blackson and Kat Williams and what not. They've been showing love, being showing love, dream come true. Hey to give it up for Nora and give it up for the FN for having me full time. One of the biggest misconceptions about the dynamic of our relationship. People didn't Nora don't like me. But if he did, why would he bring me to the Show's love right here trying to let on the show, trying to call let me get on the show. You see how much you're like correct me from wrong. I didn't know me. Stop stop letting nothing secrets. You gotta relax. That's my send And nearly I got the hook up. When when because after I'm about about obviously brought about it this this hood class right, I'll read some were yeah, um about scarface with scar face did horrible? When it did, it did crazy on DVDs directed video The Pacino Scarface because a couple of about it about it was the quick essential of director to consume this is the first time we got a chance to see that a person didn't have to go to Paramount, didn't have to go to Universe, South, Sony all these big things. They could actually come and and do it. What is that something you were too young to to fathom to understand what was going on? Or m Um not not really, because I was there for the transition of going into um putting ourself on screen. So even some of the videos you go back to look at the videos, we was we was going crazy with the videos. We were spending like half a million of million dollars on the videos. It was it was crazy. I want to say, just be straight with me. We we spent like a bag on that. I think that's the one with Beyonce in them minute Destina Oling. So that was crazy. And then um, what you say and say what what video? What? Just just be straight with you know, just just be straight with me. Who was just be straight with me? That was on the in the video, and then it was in the video they it was on the song Yeah We're gonna make some noise, No I know, actually that that was the one of the first songs that I mean, she had her own little buzz, but that was a little little bean bro. You asked my neighbor in Texas. So it's like we all go, we're gonna do no Beyonce know we ain't. I'm not. That's not what I was thinking about when I came, just making sure making track that I got in the hook up and whatnot. The only thing it was competing with was the Arkelly tape at the time whatnot, because it wasn't everybody had both vhs is at the same time, same time. Wait, I got the hook up all about about it, but I got the hoodout about it. Text was out of the same thing, quality too, same same director. I was one. For me, I was fourteen, so it was regular point for me. Alright, cool, we're gonna do something quick time with slimes. Right down, quick time with slime. This is you. You youither ask one or the other or if you don't, you you you take a shot if you realize you're not really drinking like that, So he just takes two for you. Okay, you know, good god, i'must not double. You look just like, all right, what shot you before? He preferred to my own. I'm losing all. I'm trying to moon shine and you want to try that the pick Come here, leave, we need you. Brother with the pickle. He wants some moon shine. He let the moon shine the pickle. It's not a pickle, all right, you say both, Jack takes a shot, Aprico. If you say one or the other, then you know it's just moving on. It's neither. It's a shot too, if you all right, so you're ready, Oh it's big. I'm not about to say, yo, what are you doing to this moon shot? My bad? Nasa jay Z? Who snap, don't give him the whole thing? Bro? Yeah what the man? Treat me right? Bro can trip it on every brid bottle girl ship. We're saying you can take the ship from here, but not mean. Don't put your nose in it. Don't know the ship. Hold on, hold on, damn jay Z jay Z all right, cool, this is easy as well, Master pr bird Man, of course, Soldier Slim or Big always slaming the show. Okay, the Mexa tupop. You gotta take a shot, don't remember, go both. Don't worry about it. It's not your liver. Oh maybe it is you take a half shot. Yeah, yeah, you have a lit you sure you wanta take a little shot too? Good? Okay, my boy, Okay, cool kind of one that counts one. Take one though, right, take one and then you save fables. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that's like two shots. Yeah it's good. Yeah, I mean, I'm in it's a easy drink. I was gonna go drink in the nipe and okay, what is this? This is? This is easy? Too many? Uh, these guys, I gotta I gotta stalk through reading these things before I do that. See me at X against the Bull of course, family pop Daddy and dreu dr dre okay nineties or two thousand hip hop? Oh it's pob go nineties. Okay. The locks of me goes like me goes to um, who both, I'm gonna I'm gonna both. Okay, Jack, Chuck, y'alla take the shot too. We were gonna okay, if you don't mind, you don't mind. Okay, that's a job. Okay. India Major, I feel like y'all have been Indie the whole time. Yeah, Indie, but Major has something even do it the right way. Majors could be good too. But indie go indie Cardi b or Nicki Minaj. Let's go both, load up, Jack, he tried. He's not even taking simpsc mo, He's not even just let's come I feel it up? What's wrong with how's the motion thing? It's really delicious. It's about the party in my mouth? I want somebody. We didn't hear that? Did you just say? It's a party of your mouth? And if it wasn't invited? We got a girl friend. I don't know to think about it. If you see me like like like a Instagram picture, you need to see me. I'm not sure. Hey man, it is what it is. I'm not come on, it is what do you take the shot? I don't see him? Sorry, okay, yeah, okay, little kid up Boxy Brown, Um, let's go both. Let's go Jack, he said, he went both both? Oh ship forgot that. I don't know. M hm, take it down. There's a lot of shot. Yeah, don't do it with YOUMPAI, you're gonna do this jampaign. Pain is a drinker and shot as a shot. Everybody ready, you gotta get pictures. You do the like burg a little bit for you though. Jacket trying to bear and try to bear, trying to let you want to regular okay, um, I want you to be truthful on this now, let's go. Let's go five thousand dollar jacket right here. Okay, okay, rough riders or cash money. I want you to be truth from now, no political no political self damn are we going just cash money or we got the everybody under cash money? Yes, it's just the labels, the labels, whatever you want, however you want to see it. I'm gonna go both. Okay, let's go forth. Let's go forth for them, all right, Manny fresh or chaoc you got to take our shot, fashot, goddamn, I come out the fast, give up, give him this. Yeah, this is what I want to take the same ship you gotta take. You. You gotta try all the products. You're the product tasted. But but at least I'm just giving them the battle while the man. Let me use the niggas. You don't need me now ever, so you don't get you didn't do this with trink train the kids niggas. Man don't lie on them. Got real watches and you don't talk back to them niggas either. You can wains killed me. Have some bullship. You're grouping, brother, you're fucking grouping. Man. You take your shot? Taking shot? Do we take it? I don't know if that's hilarious? Okay it's manny fresh or KLC Manny dope, um klse klc. That was dope. Damn that. Yeah, I have a poof ree d ships. Little Romeo. It's too easy, man, shout out. Definitely miss the leaders, true fast ship right here? Man, Okay, respect all loyalty, uh both for show? That's about the shot. How do you answer that for him? Because I wanted to take the shots and it's true though it's true, it's true, It's definitely true. It's definitely true. You need both of them. I think if there's loyalty, there's respect, that's good. That's good, that's okay. If you can get get both of them, you take your shot. You took your shout already, bout boy, Hey, what do you wanted some of this? What's this? Can you see? You say you can see? Now? You want some of this? Mr Liza's left time. Now, I'm not sure you can see you. Let me take some of that. Just some real ship glass and everything. Man, what the fund man for drink this shot time right now past. But we don't get to that though. I'll give you some a spade past me if you don't mind. That's what I wanted. You're never giving me an you had on the order be last time. You better just order to take this. You your brain again. You can't take shots on? Hold on, hold on, but l a Miami. I'm starting like Miami a lot. Oh yeah, now you are. I could get this both, okay, alright, cool, both went both? Little No, No, you can't take you want to take a shot with Mr. Don't you dispect him and take a shot of you. Don't disprect me like that. Yeah, come on, you are a pinch hit up your pinch string. You know how they put in a picture baseball you represent there you go, salottle, motherfucker's stottle. Mother. You're all right again to me? Yeah? All right, Um, I'm I'm gonna change this up. Okay, let's go, let's go soaked the shock a juvenile, Oh ship, it was. It was really mystical, man. Okay, but let me ask you something. When I did say that earlier, I just wanted to prove that you do have a little bit of cockiness in you. Oh, he's who's gonna win with Super Shaka and juven Now in his verses like who would win? I need to hear you see it. I'm gonna win for show. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna shout out the fuss is that? No, Julia, I gotta get the loss of that. You gonna push that nick off stage? You gonna come? I would like to. I would like to something like that. Would we would go at each other, but then we would be route for respect. I want end of the day. Ye would think, are we going to fight out of you? Okay? I'm a black dog show? Okay, So I'm gonna keep going to be going to have your heads up msical or missy? Ms what missy? Yeah, that's an interesting thing and I'm respects like that. No, I think he's an animation like they. I'm gonna go mystical okay, who okay, I'm gonna both on those. That's I like. I like people little. If you're going on myssical sticks, let's go. You just see it does lets. I would miss shout to miss though, Kanye for real, I gotta go both for those both both shot. You gotta take a shot jack, my motor skills. You gotta take a shot jack losing control of my ship. Who it's to drink Champs for real? Here you go, jock. The more you drink, the more I can't see you see me? Are you? The more you drink like that like you should getting he told me, he said, last time I did drink Chaps, I was blind. I said, really, I've been last few years. I got my sight back on the twenty second of June Man, y'all get it to y'all, give it up, give it up. You don't know was blind? I wanted I was, And he had like I have to Mr. The Butler dude with him last time and now he got Mr. But no, that's what I mean. That's kind of okay. And say you got a job now, ain't got right there? Already got a job your Hey, you know what I'm saying? All right? Cool? And that's what fun yo wording my New York niggas boy, he was using New York for ten years. You're better not you see it right here? You see it right? Dirty South baby, Yeah, I'm playing clow to man Dirty South movie. You know what I'm saying. Miniseries heard that flick. We'll get to that. What talk about salt? Could Take a shot? Take a shot, take a shot, Swiss, Swiss, beach of Timberland. Oh man, Kai kay Swiss. M hmm, I gotta go both on it. Sorry, I'm sorry, I gotta take it. Take a shot. Let's go shot. Sorry, Jack, have a little yeah, pull yourself off, pull up me and nowhere. I got a song called pull up too. As we do it. We got a song your ass up right now? Where no getting back to studio. We're gonna get something. But I'm because I'm gonna get there because yeah, okay, cool, you know we're gonna set this guy. Let's say. Yeah, we're gonna come on, come on, sal a little, come on. Yeah. I got a project dropping into so reckless eyeballs coming out soon of beans like cool lind baby, Who'll get right back to am? I mat fan? That's disrespecting. Yeah, motherfucking Mexican. I don't know. Somebody asking you ain't like that you're on their flags. I'm mat fandles all right, cool, let me get back to Chris Sam Slane. Okay, I'm not gonna ask this podcast or radio. Oh um, now more podcast podcast. Okay, I like that answer. Okay, open asa spade Bella mm hmm shout to Bellaire, probably as spade yea. All right, I think we should make some noise to that. That's just cool. I'm not we both both, we love them both, we love them both, we love we love you. I'm gonna say both on a loan. We bell you know, we love it a spade, you know. Okay, So trick Daddy e Rick Cross, Rick Ross for show. Okay, scarface ice cube, it's tough one. Oh my god, choose some ship. Choose some ship. Let's go. Um damn shout that guy. Gotta go both. But you don't gotta drink nishek on this. I'm gonna pack you one pass a lot, one pass up. I'm gonna take it with you. Thought pull up the pass the asshole. Oh, I said you wanted to pass it to you. Pull up, pull yourself a shot and then pass me the bottom. Oh come on, come on, yeah, it's not maybe, sisters laugh right. Maybe I can fight him. I'm not. No, you can't see. Let me know, he got me out. You didn't see how you can fight. I'm doing what I want to do. I'm doing it because I want to do. Come on, Paul, I'm not because niggas think that you'll be puking me out from my lady man, your ladies in, your ladies in, you'd be watching this ship. She'll be loving. She's not a show, glad. I come on, Paul, Let's know I deserve it, don't I deserve it all everything I did for hip hop, everything I did for hip hop, and come on now, I deserved you like I'm a pizza nigga. Okay, little way in to drink you already, gotta take the shot first, Jack, I saw that there's nowhere around this one. Okay, take that. I'm sorry, or this boy looks just take that one first. Good, I'm sorry. I gotta go both on those. Let's a girl shot, alright, cool, let's bow up and then pass the bottom, pull up and then passed up. Gangs. I want to shout out organic foodcakes at organic food cakes, getting food can food. Jack Tuder was busting down one of these burgers. He said there was a party in his mouth. Againer girls, none of myth, A whole bunch of my girl. It was a whole bunch of leaves there and parties in your girls, girls in the brack. Yeah, all the girls good good. I don't know. I'm slight as on Drake, but I've been waiting it so dope. But let's go Drake. Okay, So I'm gonna the shop. He said, he pets still Drake. Yeah, he think he took no second. So why haven't you really worked with like a lot of cash money artists Because I wouldn't you because my man said, because I wouldn't let him. Man, you know, we gotta keep it. We gotta stay on brand Brome, don't we gotta. We gotta keep this no limit versus starts money ship going to this sucking day. I gotta answer for Tiger. We we we we gotta answer for all that ship. It's no limit all day until we die. Was kind of cash money a little bit. Yeah, that's true. I don't remember. I don't know he was when my rops next coming out. That's not don't I don't know about that. But now I would say, um, you know what it's got. We wanted to have app were close, we close. We was close to it a couple of times. I mean, like you know, I usual people know each other. I think it's just mutual respect. Um. You know, people think that we have a problem with him. Who would you work with? Gosh, um is the whole roster whatever whatever? Like Jack and I mean Wayne is. I just think Wayne is super dope. That'd be good. Um, Julie is good. I mean most of them good. Um. I would definitely say a Nicki Minaj or Drake or something for sure. I mean and I met DrAk Befour and it was we could have probably, but I kind of gave him just a mutual respect type of thing. It wasn't about music when I met him. So it's kind of like just Rake, Yeah, just kind of shot. Let let me just ask you just um, just like spitball them because I'm trying to gass this face between you and Julie. Right, So when Julie plays back at the ass up, what do you you? I wonta say you I got, wont that what you got? You know what? It's it's an underground one, but most people know, you know, let me hit it, let me hit it, let me hit it, Let me hit that every time when but he's playing okay girl, consentual with it. Let us hit it, let me hit it probably though. That's right though. Okay, you gotta you gotta hear. Okay, okay, okay, we know about let me hit it, Let me hit it, let me hit it. Ala it already. Come on, I got it already. Little you better stop playing with me. You're doing with a quick time. We don't so. I want to go back to y'all tour with Park right, Any any crazy stories, any stories of dealing with I think was that the first tour? You know he's on the other smaller tour. I think P and C was the main ones on that tour. Um. I think I may have because I've seen Pocket met him tell him a time to a story about the pop where he was like a nigg you want to take your ship to another level if you get your dicks up in the club. Come on, Jack, I ever remember that story? You know coming? You told me? I remember. That's good. I don't know that story at all. The show story? Do you remember? So he's old? You don't remember telling No, I have just one Pock story, but it was it was a funny story, but it was like I think it was. I think it was an E forty video or something like that, And I think um because at that time, I was like local Underground was really big in the Bay Area. Like I was like, I think my first song I did it just blew up out of nowhere. He was an underground wrap of a folk Underground Wrappers was underground round that part too, and that underdund he was underground, so we so what he did was I mean, I was young. I was heck a young then, but but the buzz had kind of got out of like this new rap or whatever, blah blah blah, and the forty was the first person like really on top of it, like it was a shock, you know what I'm saying. But Eforty and Tupac and everybody was good friends. So I they stole his ship like that, giving MS rose to see if MS rose. So so he was at the video and uh and Pop was actually there and I was looking like I was younger too. I was looking like I keep looking at me. I'm like, man, this is crazy, like but I'm not really knowing, like what level of park is this like this? When he he was, I think so, but I wasn't. I didn't know that type of thing. But I was like I was still young in the streets and stuff like you don't know who he was. Like, it wasn't like I knew of him, but I didn't know the impact he had at that time looking at you he was doing, he was just he was looking at me. But I was more looking like at that time, I was well, I'm not saying that, but I was more looking at like at that time, if anybody looking at me could get it, you know what I'm saying. Like I was fresh out whatever, fresh out of chair, fresh out whatever I was. I was fresh out whatever I was with whatever that time, White teeth and so what happened us? But they had I think they was just thought there was listening to us together. It was like until Pap was listening to it. And you know, like when my first time I had first met Drake, I was like it was it was first all her own. But I was good at knowing music. I'm like, Yo, this is gonna be good one day, right, I mean, he's probably just blowing up. But I didn't even know it. But I listened to music. I'm like whatever. The first um, the first album came out was that the mixtape man, you know, it was some about Drake was a mix tape um. So when I heard I was I was jamming his back and forth all everybody in the car just jamming his jamming. So when I met him, I was like, he made it there yet. But when I met him, he was to me, it was like he's gonna blow like same thing. I'm not saying, I know the talent, but a little baby. I was just like first record, second record. I was like, this dude gonna be good to keep the essence, you know, just keep his ethics up. And so I guess what pop was the same thing. It was like he was just jamming and listening, saying, okay, dude, got talented. And then I walked on the set of the video. But he's looking at me like you want to beat me. But you'd be like, that's so told my all my records, and I'm like, but is mutual, But you'd be like still you know. But at the same time, that's what he was just looking at me, kept looking down, looking up, and I'm like, yo, But then I'll find out later that he was just like I just listened to that too. That's probably not but it was horrible. But I was listening to your music and that's why he was looking at it. It was just it was just didn't I was just kind of not thinking about it at that time, like nobody should be looking at me. You know what I'm saying. That's why I feel but a respect part of it. It was really dope. Um, but it was more of a like a I didn't know how to look at that, but it was really him just you know kind of s I was young. I was definitely, but it was dope. It was like and then we met and it was super dope and I was just like, oh, that's crazy. You actually got to meet too part like he was handshake all we did. I did meet him later though, at a lot later. Yeah. Sure, yeah, for sure. I never got to beat too far. But I know what, It's funny though I met a man, I met some people, um, and it was it was kind of crazy where um, just looking back at it because even like Beyonce, like just watching that growth, we was like literally neighbors. They actually the song. They came by the house and recorded it. Um, you came to your help, not like that stopping. No, No, I an't mean like that. We recorded the song the first I'm just straighting at the house, the disrespect me at the house, no to just be striking me songka. Now we're all like everybody know each other. So it was good, hey man. But skipping over the Tupoc thing though, what you what you were just saying you wan't to skip over Tupac. No, no, no, no, I'm not not skipping over there. I was just skipping back to it. You're saying, yeah, coming back to the Tupoc to Tupop thing and whatnot. Um like, did you know that this guy was gonna be as big as I feel like? That's what you were saying. Like he felt like, I think yeah, So in the bed it's a little different. Um. They they kind of cater to their own. And then I felt like, um, and this is that's Tupac from the bed because he was originally yeah, going out when I was in Richmond. Richmond is in the bay, right, yeah, Richmond in the Bay here for sure. But it's just like once again when you see it, because even when you go back and look at did you underground? He stood out though, you know, he stood out like, oh man, this guy and the same thing to me with my first record, I stood out so much when you go back listen to it. I think it was I gotta see what the song was. But I was just raw and I and everybody knew it. And so we do fast forward and you tell yourself like, oh, it's consistent of probably being more before my time. And I never really wrote songs though, so I just kind of freestyle everything. I rarely wrote. If I wrote to him, I just wrote like one word, one world, like cat had sacked whatever like that and everything else I put in myself. Would that mean I got my two pop in my real two pop? Question? Now the way Tupop went over to the West coast and got the recognition that he deserved, right, and you use inside you know, Yo also nowhere from the n O E A fan. You know you were originally from him, right, I'm originally born in the lab but raising man, so you you go to this this foreign land, this foreign land, and you get more respect than you did saying we're talking about because Pot made his chops in the Bay Area right on the west He's really like coastal in reality. Question. But people that people from New York like you get they constantly say to Yo, he turned his back on New York and whatnot f tupocket that it's biggie all the way. But if you ain't, if you if you ain't getting it at home and you go abroad, what's wrong with that? And Northy you mean you had to come plendy conversations where you get booked. You inside of your early career in different spots. You even talking about the Puerto Rican era of all out of the Spanish area. Spanish the whole Spanish areas don't even know used to go to New Orleans so much because people just think that it's just creole and French and all that. Some of the motherfucker's Latinos and as they get booked so much. That's that's how I discovered, Like, that's how I discovered all of that music. Was what's going there? And first of they got great the greatest cuisine in the world, That's what I'm saying. And but what there's a ghetto everywhere in the world. And that ship is like when you enter that that ship is just just just the eli ship in the world. But is there anything wrong we're going to? Where it? Is it? When you you're you're celebrated like you do on drink Chat, you go when you celebrated. I think, Jack, I think you're confusing it because he gave his music career started on the West Coast. He started the only thing apply he was a young kid dancing for Digital Underground in the Bay. Time he went back to the coast, he was already like almost a grown man. I'm told about when he went back back, like you know what after after really was the East Coast that raised them, you know what I'm saying. But you know New York and bought them. But that ain't wrong on when you celebrated and don't go when you tolerateed. I just think he's from all those areas. Man, I think he just he did so much in so many places. I don't think he felt like he was from one place together. You know That's why I can't you can cold him at the end for it, because when he was just repping the West Coast in California, love and all that, they out of jail. Okay, help me help me. Million got him out. I mean, nobody's can get understand psychologically. I'm gonna help you understand. This is a record where Tupac has this ship. There ain't nothing like the old school. Yeah, what more can I say? I wouldn't be here today if the old school didn't pay the way on that record. The ship that Tupac said, you cannot make this record if you ain't from New York. You cannot make this record. If you're not from the East Coast, the Skelly, the Double Dutch, the ice Cream Man, the Whoop Tank Clan, the all the ship that he named, you could not make this record. I don't give a funk. You've been living living in New York for ten years. You can't make this record. I don't give a funk how long you lived there. That means Pop was born and raised, his roots was there. But what this would make. This would make him an ill motherfucker. You also can't make California love same like you have to be from California when you're talking about it wouldn't be l A without Mexic kids and all this crazy ship. You gotta really be from California to make both of those records. So I would agree to disagree, to agree to disagree on this level and say he was a chameleon. He was. Artists can marry me artists the artist is contradictory. That's just one part of it. A chameleon is somewhere he could just blend into. You understand, I'm saying he already had roots in these places. Man, I could go were born in l A, raised in Miami. I feel both places, you know, and I would go away with Nori and as well saying I think that it was good for every body that he was a chameleon. And I think and I think it was good, like you said, being able to be both right, because we just got to accept and appreciate what it is and say we're glad he was born in East Coast where he's on this coach for a while, because you gott think about us too. We got love for both of them. Both of us made us and and it's and both of them could appreciate us. And I think with pop Um he should be celebrated, appreciated like even if guess what even from the South, if you have a visit to South, he left the imprint on the South. You know what I'm saying. I guess he shot the police the South to be the South was friend that he did at all in twenty six years. In six years. So with that being said, if you don't attach biggie to toothpower because Spiky still have the same lot. You're going somewhere that you ain't gonna do really quick. I want to say, I think we underestimate the idea that we were all older now. But everything that Park went through, he was a young man. Like we're trying to put like an older mentality on this young kid that was doing all this stuff, like come on, young kids don't do that day. Young kids don't do this these days. And like a lot of mature ship, they don't feel an immature person because of his age. They don't do it twenty years ago. I want that level, I would say, And I'm glad we have a conversation because you just nailed it. Um you And I tell people because a lot of young people listen to me sometime a lot of old people listen to me. Sometimes you dont want to, but they listen to you. But what I'm saying is what I'm saying is nor is that I was like a multi mellion. They're like very young, right, so so you know so so you. But what I'm saying is it kind of how you matured that so you got these young dudes. I feel bad for him. Um, they're good people, right, they're good dude, But what I mean they've got people fifteen and getting juven out like like life, like they do something right, boom they out of here, and we know fifteen or was he was using food? We don't know nothing right, and so I feel bad and like he's saying a valid point to be pock was to be like very immature and take on very mature things that was happening around him like that, even that was unseen and hip hop at that point, how can you get us up? No? But no, but this is this is this is value. But this is value because I want to say this because the next they have a lot of pops out there and they rebels with the without the cause, right, So it can't be straights, it can't be this. It gotta be a valuable Pop was literally fighting for the values of He kind of figured something's gonna happen to him. He's fighting for the values of the next loriaga, you know what saying the next hilver next like, because you think nobody's given us them bills, nobody's helping us out of the streets. If you somebody from the streets, a right where if you got lucky, you you didn't get gunned down, you didn't get life in prison, like you know, like whatever. So what you're saying is more of how can we appreciate somebody having that much on the show them that's a one was around, he was already wealthy, trying to figure out jail. He got the great kids. All these cases like I don't know, true or false, but that's a lot for somebody who is that big of an influence to all of us. And I know because I was young and people was depending on me, but I didn't know any better. I'm just doing throwing money where I'm buying cars the same color, I'm just buying house like I'm just doing stuff but normally yeah, yeah, I bought to Ferrari is the same color making model right for just no reason, just like because I because ita but but I can't do it. But no, I'm saying you could do it if you know, if you like. Okay, here's the thing about me, this thing about me, how I was doing. So you say I'm humble. I think I got a good heart. I think I want to help people, all right, But but what I what I would do nor the catch and you I'm glad you brought this up once again. The amount of pressure on somebody who's at my age to try to figure it out. So when I wake up in the morning, I got five people at my door and I'm we're going to the mall they went to. We went to the mall ten days in a row north and guess where everybody got changed? Rolex Is bracelets right said they knew to come to my house. And when I go to the mall, I'm just getting everybody this, or you want to car X facts. I got Max, my friend X help whatever. It's like, I would leave cars at the um the airport for like seven months or whatever. But but what but what it's not about that. What it's about is my ability to to realize I have everything or I'm thinking I know everything and don't know nothing. But watch this. Your friendships are not your friendships because it's based on money. The girls could be your girls, but based on money. They of course, I'm a likable guy and my friends really want to hang out with me, But but they also do want to hang out and get an extra bag, right, And and what about pac being somebody who is the only person in his his circle, that's getting a bag, but having the the responsibility or of changing people lives and they're not technically um in the same um mind state is him because he's literally taking up taking a beating for all of us at that time, I remember clear as day and I'm like, damn, you're just taking these and but I learned from it though, and I know that that feeling because I'm telling you it was a NonStop thing. I don't care people know me, No, I don't care about materialistic, no money. I really care about doing it. But at the time I don't think people care. I think that it was they like me. But also I'm getting up to wake up to say we'll still get them hit them all. I'm getting something too. So how do you balance it two and Pop saying themselves, I'm Pop, I'm fighting for y'all, but y'all fighting, are y'all fighting? And for me as well? And I think the crazy part is it now in retrospect, we look at clips, you know, they put out clips up that show a hypocrisy and him to show like like he was. And that's what when he said artists so sorry, that's why he said artists I said, artists is contradicting all contract Yeah, yeah, but I think even more so, like the things, the great things he was doing was so great that to show these clips now him being his age, it's not fair, you know, because we're all looking at it in this different scope where he's not here today to see what he would have evolved in you know what I'm saying, and whatever you said right there, Like I've seen reputable people, people that are relevant say that you know, Pap was a fake gangster and that that this old dumb ship and there's things that pops were doing that regular gangsters would never fucking shot the police. But he shot the police. You know, there's a police in respect he but he stood up and he saw somebody, He saw somebody. How many of us would do that? Hey once again, and even even on the West coast east in the side some gangster ship. He didn't have to chick the boy when my taxif you don't have to do that, it's plenty their negs to kick the boy he did. That ship's texts to be acting like they in the fight that ain't in the fight. That when they got caught on camera running around the ship. This you know, faking the fault. He didn't do that. He was a big megastar at the time. How can you fake being Tupac in twenty six years and this motherfucker's ain't did none of that real ship and he was born into it. It wasn't about it wasn't about publicity. It wasn't about uh some media bliss and none of that ship. It was organic, it wasn't. He was so passionate. How the fund can you say Tupac is faith? How everything he did was from his heart and he was alone, like even in my old lady she tell me the story where she was in the building, then in inside quiet studio, then he got shot. It's w B was there. They were there, you know. And when he comes down and and you see his boys that was invited him there, invited him there and whatnot. But then you don't say nothing about you know, who's what it got something to do with what And then he goes on to somewhere else and whatnot. And then come on, New York know everything. And if you're really my friend, if you tell me, tell me New York leaguer, just tell me it's not true. Why Yig had nothing to do. I ain't say you got nothing to do, but tell me that's what you're saying. Tell you know what I'm saying. Tell me it's nothing to tell out this happens. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I mean, I respect that opinion, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't debate any of that. I would just celebrated, well because I don't know it. I'm not. I'm not. I can't. I can't determine the stories like I don't want to hear what people say about it. I stay, I stay neutral in it. But I just respect the art form of a biggie or a pop. I wouldn't really want to divulge into anything like that. But I want to tell you that I don't think I've really met biggie, but I met big I never met Yeah, so so it's me and you're the honesty. No, I'm not, I'm just I know. I'm that's even better than I New York sucking your ship up right now, not at all. I ain't nobody game, none of that ship. I ain't no gang. I'm the mother. But if you come to Atlanta and something happens to you, and I'm your boy and whatnot? You you trusted I know somebody to know, somebody to know something. What happened right now? I know you're not a street niggers. I'm not trusting you at only good right now. That feels good. But yeah, why the hapt whatever today? I need to put my charge away and my gum and all that other ship. What I'm saying shows that i'm saying out of line. I don't just need to bring up the quid. I wouldn't you doing? But I get it. I get it. I see you looking what you're looking at. You got a lie we personally be doing and the sport is fun yo, it's not funny. We'll just turned up the gudiences out. Yeah, we don't want you good. We're very secure over here. Who are you talking to this? I'm talking to the camel. I'm talking to Journey. Funny, I'm talking to Journey. He's looking at the camera. We're looking at Sunny D's like, now, yeah, hit me, hit me, I got much we back out. You ain't got long we're going. I'm COMMI I don't want to shuff out with this bullshit. So rock baby, But you gotta worry about the fifty six seeing you're drinking that Rick Ross ship. Right, No, no, no, right this ship out, keep your winding like thirst to come on, man, I'm thirsty, thirsty. You know you want to go to Rick Ross's house too. You know, I don't know who I was there when it was holding for your house. I've never fault. I don't don't go anyway to it. It's a holy okay, A little bit more sweas it has been a big ross. When you know you want to the Ross house. I want to go out. It was having a good time, but her on that. So I don't keep working around like roster. It's a lot. There's lot different from holds him but everybody to me, to anybody, everybody mean. But it was kind like I had to man, I did. We're all blue, I have it, damn shot the shout out what you're talking about. But so let's get down to a serious note. Like I said, I did me uh c burder. He actually did invite me to the apartment, and I thought he was playing around like he was like yeah, I thought he's playing around until he actually cocked up and then they showed me the pot. This I was like, oh, ship, I was really gonna go there, like and you know, ah, no, going to the hood is nothing right in thehing. We can go to any practice we want to. But when you go to the with another famous dude that really is set up in the hood. Yeah, that's like was that a problem for for you and p because, um, like, I mean this one thing to be an attached to the hood and living in the hood is something totally good man. I think he has a man like he clearly has a MTV cre for sure, for sure had a whole nother crew. Was that like something you talked about? What the thing about it is? They in his in our hood whatever, they love him, love him love like nothing would happen so uncomfortable. He felt very comfortable, I think. But all the time he stayed there. Um, I don't know about the water bab, but I listen, I scored to the New Orleans and to hang out with him. He's always something let's go, let's go to my partner in the hood. I thought he was playing. I did not know what he was said. But but no, but so so what it is is that the whole hood loved him. He felt the love it was good to be a part of the love. You know, you feel that way some time, you know, you go where you like, like Norris says, celebrated, not tolerated, and so, um, that's why he felt the most comfortable. That the only problem is with the hood is that it's the hood, and eventually it turns on you. It turns on you. It could be one turn. That's always takes one turn. And I think that majority of people, but you still got up and coming dudes, you say, you know you're so I was. I was more worried about that, not worried about that he lived at just the turn of the circle. To me, like fifty people like you than forty nine, Like he's only one not like you. That's it, that's it, you know. So I felt like that was when I thought about him living there. I thought about the how the hood works where they never actually never got sorry. But he actually never got in trouble in there. He got in trouble when he left the hood. Pretty much. Yeah, you know, he was comfortable there. Um, and I think that they they would do anything for him, Um, but I think it's just I didn't take a charge for him, Like even in the documentary. Even in the documentary, they got girls ever saying what he's from us, he's what us like, and you're just looking and you're just seeing the people, and you could tell like, you know, I'm a hood dude, like I brought the offend with yeah to the hood, Like so what I'm trying to tell you, I'm a real personal from the hood. And then when I saw that, and I was like, damn, he might be even realer than me, Like you know what I'm saying, And that's good. That's good for me to say that because I'm like when I seen how the people were told, because it's one thing for show things for certain O G had told me this one time. I kept coming to the hood in the projects and parking on the avenue, and when I would park on the avenue, I don't know one would touch my car. But the O G said to me, Yo, man, park on the outskirts from now on. So I said, no, park on the outskirts. Don't park in front the hood, because what happens is everyone comes outside of the projects and they want to show off. For me, I'm the one that made it. That's not a sucker. That's still coming back out. But so as they're coming out as soon as I leave, they're getting in the shootouts because I'm bringing them all out. I'm bringing them all out. I'm not I'm not even knowing that because but just of people together, because everyone, because everyone from every side. I got love for me, even if he was shooting at me before I was shooting at them. Like now that they know, I'm gonna gip, everyone's coming out whatever. And I didn't know what I was doing. So every time I left, there would be some ship that happened. So I started to realize I had to humble myself. So I would come and bring my If I broke two cars on a pocket, you know by the mall, have a little motherfucker come see me with his bike, give him moiftys or something like that. And I'm driving, I'm walking through the hood with the bike on, and it leveled me out. But on C ship, C was like never left, like like like the closest thing I see to C murder is Jungle. I said. I mentioned him earlier. Jungle um from NA from QB Jungle. Damn. They had an apartment in QB two car type. No, he wasn't selling drugs. He no, I didn't say that no card means drugs to loving the hood to like he love it. He has no jungle, he said, he has loving the hood, but not like I see C murder like you know, oh, and you know what it was too. I thought that as much as it was kind of a bad idea for him to be in the hood, it was also a middle grounds because no one can never say P silk. They too holly like it anchored, they stilled it. What the main brother those are the three you know what. That's why when y'all bent shed out of their five or four boys, which I want to get back into for a little while later, but that was the three main brothers. I felt like P after everyone left him and he was like, I'm sticking with my brothers. You know what I'm saying that same mother and fathers right, so um so so what I'm saying that. I thought that was the middle ground always. I thought that was the way that the hood would never flip on y'all, because it's like C was there, like C C had us like they couldn't get that silk, They couldn't get that P. But you could literally see C murder go and pick up as mail. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's funny. That's real ship. Like, let me tell you something. This is how you know he's a real dude. Every time I see murder, all of us, you know, what's up? What's yea? It was never no no gas ship, never none of this ship that the people describe. Always a real respect. Last time you focused murder, I just talked to him maybe, um, like four or five days ago, three or four days ago. Yeah, yeah, he, um, he was. He's working on his case stuff, so he's kind of like been locked in. But yeah, you know, he has a number called a lot of time, so um, you know, the JP thing is always working. So yeah, but we're more for support, like I just like the problem might say, was more of um that he's innocent though, So I'm not saying he I'm not saying like, okay, yeah he you know, because he's not old. No, no, I'm talking about I'm talking about my old footage against him, meaning, um, there was other footage of some incident that happened a different clubs, and they're using that. It's just because because even the security guard said that he was under pressure when he said that murdered. Did it so? Yeah? So good? Well No, The crazy part is I know the facts. Listen, I know the facts. I got all the paperwork, um like. And the crazy part is that he's really innocent of the crime. Like I'm saying like, no, you got so he's really so imagine that. So as a brother, it's more like, um um, it's one of the worst things when because we're gonna wrap our brothers no matter what. Like if your brother did something, You're like, oh, he did it, but I'm going to him every month, I'm going to put money on his books. But it's probably the worst feeling when an innocent so because me I'll be like, yo, bro, you did the stuff. You gotta do the crime, do the time. But it's hard when um so, I never really us about anything, and so I'm always trying to have a good time, you know whatever. I feel good about pretty much anything. But then that part of it is one of the It always drop you down a couple of notches. You could be parting in Jamaica having fun and just like we're seeing jail you know because I and let me say, you're not going So the crazy part that's why I hope you come home soon. Um. The crazy part is, uh, if you visit your brother and you leave to go home, you know what I'm saying, And he's better than the jungle. So he's you know, he's at goal or whatever he's at leaving and somebody innocent like that is as it's really a mine thing. So I think that's almost like because I lost my mother brother too, but he got killed and you know, and that that was like a boom. I think I might share one tier. And I was like, Okay, I'm not in here, you know what I'm saying, But I got it. But that's when it's like a lingering thing. So I just want to see him, you know, out of you know, out of what is it in Louisiana? I think, uh they say something that you can't reverse the law once um you're convicted even like something like that, Um what not even that? I think it's like so when you think of Louisiana, um, you think of like so if you go to Angle the prison, they still on horses with shotguns. So it's it's it's it's it's the South right still they say it again, you go to sal and they're still on horses with really they their hat on there. They like, yeah, in that prison when he was at that that's the one. So it's like and they're still work in the field, like they're working the field, they building stuff. So with that prison more is um. It's um. It's really a workplace. So they're trying to keep the prison's pack um because they get the best work. Got me, I've seen some stuff. They probably made this table, you know whatever, and um. So that's a system for them. And it's a way. Because I was younger, I used to realize, like I had a guy, you know, he like little John whatever not the rap John looks on, but so so he he was like a good guy and you know he's like, yo, he shot and killed a shot of the cop or whatever, right, and I'm like, this guy would never do that. Thirty years he out of here and you know, public spend. He gone, but straight and gola. Right. So now he's a worker. They don't want the workers that's like four years, three years. Got to train them too hard. So it's a system for them. I get it, um. But but it was they was doing it way back then, and it was like but we was younger, so it was like, oh not not saying you Let's say somebody took him off the treety out of here, mom, you know crime whatever, thirty years go by, boom is through it again, do it again. And so to me, that's the system at they ends. I feel bad for any parent or anybody who because a lot of them that's not doing it. Course something guilty on super but a lot of them not. And so um that was that's the only thing about it. It's like if he was guilty, I'll be like, you gotta do the time. You know, we out of here. But it's not like you guys don't have the resources for which is crazy. You know, they they system it's too big. They won't break it because then that that's gonna break those systems. But I think he is gonna come home, and I think he is going to break the system because it's it's loosen enough and now a little bit um the people who who's at the top, who's like those real strong which you're like, you know there the ones like now you're getting some people in there that who's like but back then it's just like boy, you you know that's got some old school Jim Crow motherfucker's in there, and let's talk about how does he bought the projects? Though? Right? Yeah, it's it's so it's not a money thing at all. Um, I want people to be like, oh he could do this, Um, your wi the we own them, real people on them really hard, Like you're not helping your brother, like when you gave up on your brother and whatnot. Can you clear up from your mouth? I mean he kind of did. He said that it's a system that it's it's not come from. I mean, I listen, everybody, we could all say we could do we could be money on the quarterback, and we all have to do more. I could do more, right, I mean, but you really are gonna have to fight. Um Like even Kim, like she's trying to do it. She's trying to do it like they this is behind she's close because she's trying to that. Yeah yeah, yeah I heard that. But I just that's great to hear. I'm listening. I have to get out. I'm just want to get out. But I mean, um, you know, it's she's taking a different angle than we probably could take. She has like some stuff in her back pocket. But yeah, I wouldn't be hard on p in that situation because he's done a lot. Of course, all of us just can try to do more. But also you gotta think too, it's got to be done a correct way because you think about this, No, not even that part. We could come hard. But he's still in jail though, so you know that the systems work together. The police worked with the So I only I don't think he's worried about that. I just think that, um, we're just trying to find a happy medium. Um, we're going. We went hard on him, a hard heart heart, and we was right there. It was close, and then last minute they just they stuck to their guns. Where we can't let y'all winners because the system. We can't break the system because it's been this way. How long he's been in there right now years, yeah, something like that. So it's nuts, it's it's it's ridiculous. And then when you watch the documentary and you see Pee's emotions in the side of it and how he's I've been here the whole time. I've been here the whole time, y'all don't know what it's like to be inside of this position and being the head because, like you said, if He's the icon in the situation, so it seemed like he could just just waving one and it ship should be eradicated because of his status. Like tip lifted, lift take the pressure off of pe Nick right now. I just say, you know, I said, it's like say, I mean you can't. I mean, like like listen, I would say myself personally, I could say, just money on the quarterback? Could I do stuff differently? Can I do more? You can? But at the same time, that's not that's not his fight, like that, He's done a lot to really help him out. The system is just really it's a system that don't want to be broken right now because if they break, they're gonna have to break for all these other cases. That's what it is. That's what it is. They know, okay, it could probably break, it's gonna break, but they hold in tight because if this breaks, is going to crack the whole system. And but it's going to break. It always does. Um it's I think in case like hands is gonna do it. We just gotta rally a little bit more and be ready to because they softening up. They they the system has turned around because I think right now he's in jail. You know the ten two rule. So the ten two rule is it's got to be unanimous. Everywhere in the world it's unanimous except except for all meaning, um, the jury has to all twelve of them have to vote. But in New Orleans, it could be a ten Louisiana. It could be so it could be tender, and it could be two people that says no, and you and you're still You're still You're still going in there. So that's crazy, that's pretty murder. It starts right here, right now, New yamp let's go Brigstown. Yeah, yeah, it's corruption going on. Hey, and we won't stand for it no more. We won't free my nigger camera, look at the yeah, free see murder. I beat you. You want to take a bathroom break? Now is the time? Okay, Yeah, I'm good, I'm good. Keep going. I'm on the court the tank right now, clear nory glasses one, come on, come on, I'm gonna keep gonn ep on, don't I don't. Yeah, shout out the Organic Food Kings. It's incredible. We got the truck outside at Organic Food Kings. Make sure you check them out. I'm gonna beating them all the time, right now, so tell us what you're doing now? You producing movies? Yeah, I'm about having the movie stuff now. Okay, so what made you do to that? I did it before it like I didn't one with him. I'm doing um man, I had a part like it was like very to the post. But then mother, it was pretty good that. Yeah, I was pretty good, like hey, don't go in there. Yeah he got a little Yeah, he was like, great, you're gonna be the motherfucker movie and making that. He knows how to field you up and make you feel you know what I am in. So this this exclusively right now. I'm working on writing the uh like a no limit project. But I'm also writing so by time writing hot Boys too. So we're going right now. We're right now. So who I'm gonna be in it? I got some it's gonna be dope. It's it's gonna be kind of redirected with the new stuff that's happened. I'm gonna be in it. You're gonn definitely be in it for show, but I'm not gonna I'm gonna try to get Now I'm annoying, but I'm just gonna say you're doing I said, I'm listening. No, I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna get some. Will you know some fucking I don't know about the give me some. I don't know. I don't know that. Come let me somebody. We're still working on my body. I look good on cameras, you fucking kid. I can't get you a part in the movie. I can't. I can't guarantee you the roll. I can't guarantee you can't get me an your movie. You minute don't have to make sense right, you don't want to body just randomly ston like, don't want to be You don't gonna be a stuple. I'll be a supporting fucking bro. But we might have a supporting Celemsson is question? All right? Cameron? Pay them for? You know? Was he the start in the movie? No? Not really, but it became a start in the movie. Yo, pay them for? Nor was he the start in the movie? Remember the roll? Canna know what kind of can roll as big as Norties was in this ship's roll? They didn't pay them for. I want some ship like No, I got twelve seconds. I needed to seconds, so sucking something. I can almost guarantee you to our seconds. I just can't guarantee up, give me give me some money, like Nor negotiated to our second place shows a second second. So, so, what's what's your favorite era of No Limit? I usually ask people what's the favorite era of music? I just want to say your favorite area of no limits? Like yours person, I would say Snoop coming to No Limits. Yeah it was because we watched them, but I'm sure you probably know Snoop. So Snoop is like the ultimate loyal like cool really somebody who like it. It's always the same like if he Rocket Rockership, he doesn't, He's like whatever. But me and him he had to buyd because he was staying at my house. He would come over. He would like, we would chop it up. We would go to places and he was just consistently. We did a lot of music other but we just was more like, um, I've really really have seen people that um embraced it, UM bought into it and then would listen like he would like tell you stuff, but he would also listen and still remain humble. But also even to this day, it's like what's something new for you? Is like you know it's that and I was up and it's like that still thing and he never really changed up. I thought that was and he was a superstar too, and it was good that it was good because we was good, but to help him get back to where he wanted to be at because when we came to us, I wouldn't say he was still Snoop, but he was just questioning Snoop, you know, and and that and as an artist, you know we you you questioned how good? Like I never really questioned, like my talent. But if somebody saying, oh you all beat, you know what I'm saying, like I'm record people love going crazy not to come in. But so he he got it back. To watch him get it back. He was walking at first. He was like trying to figure it out and he was smiling, running around bad Ruge like drop topic. Yeah, he was chilling. Man. He got his house there, he was coming out with his slippers like I'm watching it. He don't know it, but I'm watching it, and I'm like wow. Because when he first got there, you could see the wasn't that confidence he was He was like, I don't know if I'm Snoop though, you know, like he knew it, but he was. But when Tommy got in that studio and making like I think he made after my you know what I'm saying. He was like he got it back. He was walking around then. I think that's when he was ready to say I got to go back home, you know what I'm saying, to the West Coast and and step into that my faith. And it was it was dope to to watch him kind of filled with his chest out like yeah, I'm going back and take over you know, the West Coast. That was. It was dope death road trying to jump on. I was, I was, I was there. Yeah, it was yeah, yeah, it was. Um so Snoop being a person he was, we had a whole bunch of people watching him and he was watching everybody right, And then Snoop was like he'd probably say, I'm just going to the bathroom by myself. You know, he's not really fearful like that, so he's more like so he went off with like one maybe one person or somebody like that, and I didn't see that what happened. Um I did see him walk off, but his typical Snoop, He's like I'm just I'm just gonna do what I want to do. Go and chop it up to my friends whatever. As soon as you did it. The one thing I heard, like about a couple of seconds later was all of us just running, like just running towards where we think that Snoop is at. And that was like it. And then it just kind of like this um big old melee. You know, we everybody everybody ready, you know what that blah blah blah um and that was hit. It was just didn't kind of settle down at that point, like we had p on here. He told us about his famous phone call, a masterpiece call a sill call on him, and she saying yo, man l a us and and Masterpiece saying, so when you're moving. I heard that story. I heard that. Um, we all heard the Room of Death row. When you hear this, that your brother saying, man, I ain't going nowhere. What is your thoughts running through your mind? Are you thinking industry ship or are you thinking like maybe this is the time let's relax. I mean, like, I'm not really familiar with the sugar part, but so I won't even comment. Well, I knew of them. I knew your own story. Yeah, I knew hanging another ice over, I heard it. But i'd be so my listening, I'll be so zone whatever. But I'm with, you know, I'm with all that. But at the same time I heard the stuff. Um, but but I also could believe the conversation happened. I wasn't there with the conversation happened. Now I wasn't. I was in the mix everything. I was actually calling Richie rich I know they Actually the funny thing about it is and this is this is all due to you know, blessed. On that part, I was probably the wildest one coming up. And I was with, I was with, I was in all this stuff. I was with We had like even if you wanted the video, I was in the barrier with the fight. I was like I made the lie up. I was like, yeah, do stuff to my footing and stup my foot the whole club we're fighting the club whatever. So you know, I was with all that dumb stuff. Um. So no, and I was. I was at every meeting us CA stuff. I know of it. Um. If I wasn't there, it's like I'm a phone call away. So I was so the crazy part I was with whatever we was with. Um, the room was like pe Court on pimp in the room. Yeah I wasn't. I wasn't were over that part. But you know that's just room and stuff like that. Pimp and nothing's people. Okay, I see that, but you know some of that stuff I just called me when it's all the way up, or you know, we gotta with it's the issue, stuff like that. So with the what did I say, Oh, with the with that part of it, I know that probably happened because I could see, but that's typically past the people. Probably happened. I heard of. It probably happened for sure. I see that a lot of niggers. How about how about how about the pastor Troy Ship? Because I listened to this record for them there two years and I had no idea that that was a disc record. Yeah you know playing I said, what's up, Big Big okay from Gets Drink Champion? Yeah, yeah, yeah, coming here. But I had, like I had watched this man come performed at two or three, four or four, six seven times. I had not known because because I think the intro of the record is actually the disk right or the video or whatever, I had not there. Uh yeah it's Peter, Yeah, yeah, there's rapping. Oh yeah, yeah, that's on the phones. Yeah, pass the Troyal and tell them since they think they sold you. We read it for war. I've never really heard that. Damn, he's so rich man. Yo, yeah, I never heard that to never. No, that's crazy, but I know I know that I heard the story. Um, Like I said, I'm just try I'll be man listening me. I'm like my, Um, I had to control my you know I have. I had a little temper back then, but so I tried not to um because because they don't have to tell me to calm down type of things, So I just try to. It's when it's up, It's like it's up. So shot me before I would have definitely in the statue. Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't for me that dude. Oh my god, this is what's big mount Okay, yeah, no, I can't believe you. You know, you know I heard the story, but I never music white rich che Yeah yeah, tech game. You know your communionship communis. I talked to me before to dope people. Done people, you know what you doing? What what I've done is um And that's probably like why I want to show people, because um, I'm gonna seen this. So I have. I had this book. I had rolled too, but it's a music book. So I'm sitting to all y'all for sure. UM, I said, I didn't bring down hut damn about but but no, I'm in a tech world. But I also found it's a balance to um telling people you in the tech world and really be in the tech world. Right. So it's some stuff that I'm part of that UM you probably used, but I probably I'll never tell you that. UM, I think because sometimes some stuff is good. Like Twitter. Now that's I don't I don't want that, but I won't stop the water around brook that's this. I want something that's cool, that's dope like that. Um. And then how do you get into these things? I'm hearing people get it? Is it through hedge funds? Is it through white people? I got friends that are UM I got was wanting. The people don't understand how much. Okay, please, I got some bro. No, let me tell you. I gotta call my boy. I gotta come boy at some point. Okay, but missing boy something Okay, cool, I got something you my bro. You're gonna be like shock you when he tells you. But no, I actually and this is gonna make so much sense for you. But the book, okay, we got to okay, yeah yeah yeah, and he got to take yet that's it. It's it's a it's a um. It's just when the music doesn't so everything you didn't know about publishing, writing whatever, And it's what year did you put this up? Like two years a year and have ago so it's recently so it's just today. It's really good. Pay you a whole real hay a full so but no, I'm glad that. Please. I want to be in some text shown. You want to go to Silicone Valley, You're gonna love it. Bro, Oh my god, he was married. Let me tell you something and just get more pusson in the tempo that right now? Are you in the crypto space too? Not in a game? I'm not, um, but but I want I want to get into some stuff that I don't know about. I try not to um do it of stuff. I just got my first one done. I'm shout out to my boy Trav. Uh yeah you frenchie, frenchie Uh yeah, he's got something going on that he's involved in of us. Okay, cool, so you sold your first one on your boy yet we did it. We did it right now and we're about to Yeah, we're about to put it out together now one second. Um. But so that's some stuff. Um, that's some stuff that because some of the stuff you're doing, like you do, you could own for you to be like, oh, that's what I'm doing. Like I know, NAS do a lot of it, right, some stuff NAS do that you never know NAS do. It blows up right whatever. But I found out sometimes you keep some stuff separate because let's say if I got a clothing line, I have a clothing line that's that every artist you know comes into l A and buy that my shop right right slam. You don't never give me a ship because I don't want you to know I's owned it. But I own it. And I could pull up a Hunted Rappers that has the award. If I tell them that I own it'll change it. They'd be like, I didn't want to sho what I'm saying with you. I don't know why. But if you like, that's just that's actually what it is. It wouldn't be something personal with you. It's just identified with a little personal a person I don't know how to spell. It was just it was just got it, put it together. I don't. If you don't get it, I don't why why it just sell good on my host a gun hoster because I got joining here. Now one brand that they identified myself with. I've seen you got something, Put us on, Put us on. It's called chasing billions. So that's what I do. But that one is, you know people, I put it his mind, but it does well anyway. But the other one, every person from who tanks a little baby and to train his board and yeah. But but because it's it's a it's a it's a kind of thing where it's pieces, so they love it. They spend five hundred dollars one dollars on. Yeah, yeah, for real, you got got you and your phone. You gotta relax side you're arguing with him. The niggle was not dead for me. I thought like I thought, trying to show he had my back and I ain't needing no guns. This is this nigg is like the transporter. He got the guns. He got the guns. Let's see. Man, Now we don't do it, No no one to do it. Because we went to jail, both us went. Last time you guys went together, Hey man, Mr Lee I was the bottle boy here. He even had he got he got it out for your dollar. Should not calling me phone call you? He called me. No, that's it's it's documented and there no jokes, no jokes with the guy. So what he says, we need documented though recording. He talked about it before, so it don't mean it's documented, I guess, but it's one what happened here all So you remember when uh Tupac's body guard Frank Alexander lights kid. Yes, I was the last interview, yes, one of because he got murdered, right, he had got murdered two weeks after you on this on this is fifty yes and yo a finish A cool called me all these uh fucking um. It was a little boy that used to hang out with Tupac all the time. They bring along like I'm some god named Manuel Lewis ship with Michael Jackson, you know twin he was, he was young. But anyway he called me and he was like, this was when it was in talks. Oh uh, what's the movie? Trade out of company? What's coming? Before the other alteration? He goes to jail about the ship. He finds out how he's being depicted inside of the movie. Who Sure, So he hit me up and he wont He was like, hey, what's up? Um, just jack throw up? I said, yeah, what's up? Who it is? He said it sure? I said sugar? Who? He said, need only sugar? Get the funk out of what's up? He said, what, I'm trying to see you? I'm like, what trying to see me? He said? I can't see him? Yeah? I wait where you wait? Wait where you at? And he said, I'm in l A. Oh, I'm in New York. Ship, I'm not balled up in the corner. And when he was like, hey, I need to talk to fifty, I said about what? And he was like, hey, I want to talk to me about the death role movie. Don't want to do a death role movie and whatnot? And you know, I know he gets ship. You want to do a counter movie? Yeah? He wanted to do a counter movie. Yeah. And so I said, here, hey, I don't make it heavy for you, but I need something from you too. I need you can give me a Yeah. I mean I wanted some bullshit. I asked him for no money, nothing, because I didn't understand the business and what this called me. I asked him for a shout out for my show cycle show six thing about you kind of drop from him. He wouldn't do it until I got him on the phone with fifty. So I went to the office the next day because see fifty, and I said, Hey, fifty, guess who called me. They did not believe you. Didn't believe you know, he believed believe ever think that? He said, I said, shouldn't I want to have you? Said? They fuck no. They walked off from me, and I was like, oh, ship, I don't think fifty likes, shouldn't I? And so he'll be telling fifty secrets now that you work with Rick Cross, I don't. I was searchty, I was searching, don't we give it now? I don't know? No, don't that who we fun with? And you don't sunk with fun with? So he definitely not working with you right now. I think you might have put a gun on that. But anyway, so the story careers on one down. I'm confused. I don't know what to do. Back he called me back. Oh my god, I was like, hey, man, what's up? Like he ain't been And what happened was, yeah, black candy, let me get that crop. He's like, man, let's tell the nigger I need to holiday and you know what I'm saying, real soon, and like it's a stap, it's one. I need to do it right now. And I'm gonna do you drop whatever the funk you want to do. And I went back and I tried again, and I went to Renee this time, and Renee was like, hey, yeah, no go uh because there's a whole another story to go with this ship with your kids back in the day. Yeah, you know the story. Okay, cool somewhere someone all right, cool. So we've got a couple of minutes left. Yeah, so he let's get to the story. So, so kidnap some ship like that? Okay, that's what happened? What up? He kidding that book? Yes, you know part of them kidding them? Yeah, yeah, this is who come kame. He just didn't kid kidning happens. He said, it's way better than Moose kidding, not like with killer killer killers killer cams. So did the nigga. He tell him that I'm gonna do the ship and yes, and a blessing come out of the skies and ship because I don't know what to sell. Shooting neck then he go to jail and like, oh, ship, that's not a busting for me, for me, god me, because now I'm not that explanation for it. And then shoot, hi, blessing came about. Yeah, so I released me, he released me, about him, about me, and tell the point and so Dan Straighter coming and it's a great movie. It's a it's a great movie. And I say that to go right into the dirty South, you know what I'm saying, the story of good in mob playing Celo. Man Celo used to rob niggas all the time and blah blah blah. And when he got famous, you know what I'm saying, nigga should come up to him like, hey, you robbed me before, and now it's gonna be one of the greatest movies. Then you'll never see that was on some gangster ship music. All that comparison to a fucking straight out of comptent. That's why I was going with that. And I got a new show. It's called the pull Up. The pull Up because tax Stone had a show called to pull Up? Who tax Stone at a tax Stone that's not true had a show called to pull Up? So did Joe Buttons had a show called to pull Up Just want to be clear, they don't got it now? And Mr Lee. Mr Lee had a show called The Else that has a show called oh No, when't when? When listen you can differentiate yourself about say put up on me? Put up on me? All right, we'll put that on man on that, We'll put that out. I got a new show called pull up on Me on your young Maid, young bag, and I was not the nigger that got young that made pregnant easier. We was like, who was planning spend about it? One night with me, A couple other studs and ships out of control stunts and ship came on me and I was like, hey, what's up? She was like, hey, if you want to hit this, you gotta kiss kiss my strap on. I like, and you did it nothing. I was like, you ain't falling on with it? Did you? You know? What's your fun on? Niggas with it? Out do it? A new show was called to pull Up on Man, where my girl, Me, Me and chant the publicist the biggest public hold on time Out Atlanta Time Out. So you put your girl on the show. Putting your girl on the show, she don't pull up? And whatnot to about everybody needs on the show. Like listen, well, then you have like a bad mistake. We're just working with your bad mistake, working with your No, I don't, I don't know. I chanted with the girl stills. I championed my girl shows, but I'm not on the show. Yeah, I'm producing her show so she can do what she wants to do on her show. And I'm on, I don't. On the back end, I'm supporting. Come supporting, alright, come supporting. But I got to put pull up show. It's what Seante and me and they both publicists. We can get anybody in the world on that motherfucker's That's why I did it this way. We gotta stay so you can come from the interview, go right and perform on that ship. Nor ef. I need y'all on the show. You know, I'm saying, help me get us in the Atlanta and whatnot. And it's gonna change the game, you know all access Granted, you remember that show when we shoot music videos and they show to making nothing and all that we're doing it. We're bringing a sixting in a better back. It comes with a new name. It's called my Name in your Mouth, sightful so every week that's going on this sight for Yeah, it's as show Shore show is Atlanta the show room. Look keep up with Yeah, it's going down. Hey. I also came to Diamonds every Sunday, every Sunday hosting a Knis Canally. He can cut your own out, put in your mouth? Who used to put it in your in Atlanta? In Atlanta now Kick of Diamonds, King of Diamonds. It's a branch. I gotta live band with my own group, Reckless out Ball in four hours and Anabas is going out of the major way. It's moving and grooving and dancing into this music in this room. Come on now, yo, y'all give it up. Y'all get up and came up and came up clashing. Get what you mean you're gonna clapping me? So this is your publicist, many listen listen for my dog and I managed super Shop. If you need any bookings, any features off beat? We got that ship over here, come over here, Come on, Okay, okay, come on, we're spooming everybody. So what's next for silk Um? So we got a new project coming out called Vito. That's this album. So you know how I used to be like everybody's coming Vito. So we're doing that right now. We almost everybody just calling me that, but not with the actual Vito stands for something now y'all, y'all stay tuned that. And then we're going to movie. So we just did a sitcom. So I sold one sitcom and I was actually casting a sitcom that did like eight episodes. So that was cool. That was dope that you acted, was acting almost coming up. This is fun, coming out, coming out. I can do it for you too. So that's it. And I say, we you know, the tech world stuff is dope. Um, but movies, I'm about to get into the hunter percent that's gonna be dope. Producing or producing director. The last two i'm writing. But actually I wrote the first one right we were the first time. Yep. But yeah, I'm really good at the right one. Remember what people come to me and then this day and say, hey, come on in, you come on hand. Yeah I am that that. No, I'm I'm I'm so good at the I'm not being humbling the mode like take it from no Nory told me this, Um, we're no longer being humble. But no, I'm really super good at the writing the script like I'm not good at typing it when I'm I'm so good at the actual screen sexualizing it. But that's what I mean, even with the music stuff. That's kind of how I was. You know, I rarely wrote, but um just had everything in my head. I can't. You can't say that, um so, because when you say you really wrote, people want to take it like people wrote for you. So you gotta you wrote you free style. I first gotta say that because these fans would take that little part and be like, oh, Ship told you master, he wrote his old ship. You know what I'm saying, can wrote everything. You know what I'm saying. So and when you're saying movie stuff, because you guys were doing movies already, so yeah, you're diving into like the legit Hollywood side of it. Man, I got one. Um this this one's big, Like this is gonna be big because you know I would talk to talk to you all off the airbody, but it's it's um so yeah, So we we got some of them that we're just doing ourselves. But then I got lucky and did this one. I'm not paying for it at all, but um somebody they bought it from you, like a big, big company bought it from and it's it's a seven it's an eighty almost ninety million dollar movie. But yeah, but it's But but I could write them like that. I'm actually better at those, so I'm trying to. I could do the ones we all the time. That's that's easy for me. But I'm really good at the big concept um we talk about We talked about the Abody, but we're talking about Fast and Furious eleven right now. Pretty good, it's pretty good. Don't don't give it away here, it's really good. I like this. Yeah, yeah, it's really good. You'll be like, oh, you did that because you appreciate you guys appreciate the like coming from where we came from to do stuff like this and this, those things are easier for me to do, honestly, like to make like like I have one movie I'm sure at some point to get picked up it's like million dollars. But if you check it out kind of part three and you know, and you would be like, oh, why dobody pick it up? But I ain't. Haven't nootherbody read it yet, but two people and one person it's actually may do it? Ums talking about it when you say person and you're talking about like diving into the whole Hollywood ecosystem, because I'm saying, because you guys were making movies. So the outside of you guys are already successful doing indie movie like a bottom. So what's the now, um, like, are you tapped in now to this? But other people that's Hollywood equosy ism, that's millions and billions of dollars and people give up the movies. So so let me get you an example. Um, The actual crazy part is I didn't realize them to get you a little game. The bigger movies lore it's easy to get done than the smaller movies, like think about this because they see bigger profits. Okay, so if you so, if you're rich, you don't care about money. But if I try to go get two from some of my friends, they don't I mean not friends, but some people that I know that don't have it. It's gonna be like it doesn't matter. It's gonna be like taking water from this thing. They don't have it to give. They might want to do it, but they might say, oh, I'll keep you five. But but you have to think about somebody sitting on a honeymillion dollars. It's again, it's a it's a game that they're gonna make good money off if they don't make it, but if they make it, if they don't tax right off. If they do, it's a good it's a good investor. And here you're gonna have to worry about taking the money from the guy who only got to any thousand, hundred thousand, so he's gonna be on you, like okay whatever, as opposed of somebody they just sitting around. They got it. So it's so what I learned to do is balanced too. I love doing the movies that we've done, you know, I love those, um, But then I also kind of broadened the rising on it was like, oh, um, take those concepts like, um, I have a concept. If it's good, you know, actors are gonna want to do it. And I found out that's my that's kind of my niche, you know what I'm saying. Where I'm like, I think like that, Like when you're seeing some of the movies, it's crazy, Like they don't they're crazy. How do you get into that world of those people that invest in like that. I'm around some of them um, everybody knows that I make dollars and cents, right, so and I and I and so what I do really good? Honestly I do um, I do marketing good. So if you go no limit. We was always it's marketing instructure to everything. That's why I was telling you earlier where you always be okay because the person who could sell stuff, it's gonna win all the time. Like you can have this good beer, but is anybody gonna sell it. You can have a Kevin Hart movie, but nobody hears about it, it won't do good. So if you could put your post. That's why the movie that we did, it's got funny. So the movie we did, right, I sold it to Lionsgate, right, So I paid for it and I sold it to Lionsgate. Right. The Lionsgate was like, now they bought the movie because I said, I'm not telling you what they say in the same room I remember yesterday, Like we had to stay in the same fucking room. But what the funny part is, I take care I'll take care of y'all, take care of me. I'll take care of y'all. Is it d take care of it? Ain't it? Ain't dude? This can think about it. I took a chance on all y'all and nobody care about y'all in Hollywood. Tell the truth and Michael black they said, what is this guy in the movie? So they was like, they should be in a movie. We're not gonna buy this, right, But here's what crazy it is. I know that Michael Blackson is like was the starting to make I knew Blotle Duvall was super good. He's still he's still working on it. My boy's good. He's good. He's good people and he's let me manage him. But so so so what they but but even with these but even with the lives Gate stuff, they so they sit down on me. We had a meeting. You sold it out right, No, I still own it. But they sit down on me. Whatever. They didn't really want to buy the movie. Oh no, what's the deal. I got to get it back in five years or whatever. So what they did was they they I sit down with them. Now he shout to lions Gate for sure, but they don't really know. They have a lot of urban movies and they just thought at the fency like he got ten millions and they don't like shoutott to Lions game, but they didn't even know World Star was type the thing. You know what I'm saying, Like, but they're selling to you know, to our community, but not to say they dope in the in the business part. But how do you they're trying to say, like silk they sent me down. They're like silk, um, why these movies didn't do good? And I was supposed to be thirty minutes um nor shot for real, it turned out to seven hour meeting and they picked to think about no limits. Salted don you Tim and you took the Shadow was for two hundred dollars rooms, you know, ten million dollars food? How much the game for I'm not telling you how much it was. It was the same room exactly. That's a lie. I don't do that. I won't get you bron to that I had you wouldn't do well. Yeah not Normally when we've been by ourselves, we don't be in the same room. But when we were in we were let if they want to stay in the room, they say, because they wanted. They There was never nobody staying in the same room, Like, don't go to that, no more money, more family video. We didn't get no more money. I can't take it. I can't deal with no. But but but honestly, don't believe that, dude, I'm taking I took these guys the funniest head. But good job. You say. I might try to buy, not want you're just making my hand over. I might want to. He's not connecting to be on your side. But they so they so they took that. So they just bought the money my family part because they kind of wanted me in a circle whatever. And so now that it's just like one of those things where I just was kind of introduced to it, but I also wanted the system and the system it's designed for us, but we go away from it. Um, we got to balance it all so you could do those movies and then you could really like we could make some big movies for the culture. But why why we can't um make Fast and Furious. We can own that, like we could literally, but we can't do it if we're trying to low ball the production part and they don't look and I don't know about that part, but they but they known to do that because I know some Hollywood actors that I'd be like, Yo, you know, you guys could do these projects. So they're starting in the movies, but the system is giving them what they want to. But I'm like, like, I know, what's your girl name is? Who played Cookie? Whatever? She She was like like, no, I'm sorry, I'm not bad. I'm sorry, my mom blank um, that's all this traffic. But I can't. You know, I flew from always do. If it wasn't understood that, you know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would ship. You know you're gonna let them get away with that. Let me get away with that. I ain't even you did Beyonce and Jay you gotta do to roch like that. That's what. Okay, my bad, But I understand what he said when he said Cookie. That's what I'm saying I did because she doesn't hell of a job. It's Cookie. Let's just be clear. Twilight. Yeah, come on, And that's I'm the comic. You know I was blanked for so I'm the jester. I got I got it. I got it. I know I was blank and I was. What I was telling saying was she's doing all these big roles and she's underpaid. I was saying, how much you're gonna pay her now? I'm gonna pay whatever she wants. She's gonna pay everybody walk I mean, I mean what we can't read it. I'm saying, what the reason reasonable manager forget about trying to I don't, I don't glogy and so in the same time, cut me a break on thorology. Okay, cool, that's what you were in business. Don't do it, don't. It's kind of gonna stick. But then it might not stick, you know what I'm saying, Corey might not stick. But but now that's it. So it's just us kind of having a chance because we were powerful enough to do it. Um we just got like the top got of the fair by a bunch of people that believe in it, right so um so, But they know that we're not. So we're the only people that's gonna underbudget ourselves in the films, right, we're not Tyler Perry on the studio and he's doing He's what I'm saying, you've been doing this place stuff. I heard about it. I got a small little Tyler Peri studio in Atlanta. It's like tim minutes away from the airport. You've been there before. They said that she was there. Uh, you have a spot. It's not so, Tyler Peris. You can't shoot video all that. Y'all have done things in there already. It's my man show bis the showroom at l You know what I'm saying. Following there right now? You know what I'm talking about. All of the promo for every wrapper that comes through. Okay, I'm okay, I guess there. Yeah, you ain't your baby, You ain't baby, and down with y'all. Down with it too, okay? Right? Were Jack shot platter? No doubt. I don't get the sharp No, No, was that fried? No? No, it's it's all shark, bro, It's all real, and it's it's like five different crap legs, five different shrimps. You get you get a tuna? Are we doing this on the show? Right by the fucking airport? Right? You get there. I don't know if you like to seafood, but this one not got me and my old lady together because she liked the shark platitude and you like to eat ass. You got a sold out of a so anything else if you can say for making about it from I think I got to got the book. I mean you got the book. Tell him what the book paid? Music? You got another book you're gonna do right, Yeah, I got one stupid though. We like that right now, tell us not whenever you tell your boss, I'm gonna do it. Whenever I say no, we say yeah. And then Jack a little dot, Jack a little dot everything that you need to know that's new. If you like the world, start out here, pop dot com. If you like dot com stuff, you gotta love Jack Thriller dot com, all the independent artists and everything. Bring me your bag. I'm gonna show you how to get rich with this and bobble and when I got some great package. Yeah, whatever, yeah, whatever, Yeah. If you want to take over, give me all your fucking money, and I guarantee I'm gonna make that ship here you're making. Let's sell. Say one last thing. Listen, I want to say, sloop, y'all man to show is a dope show. Good y'all having me, and definitely appreciate y'all sticking back. I got it for y'all. I do these plays. They not whatever. So I tell him my meat though, and the side just tell him about me. Don't don't don't. Don't you tell yourself the jack Philip said, you was here yesterday I swear yesterday he was like, yo, yeah, I saw him. I was like, really he said, He was like, you guys together the good He said, you guys said this hotel here in this hotel. So I was like, all right, we good. So I'm saying that and then Jack like, oh, I boy, I had thought he was. I thought made whatever you need to happen happen. I appreciate in order for you to be here right now. That's why I deserved. Well, come on, that's negotiate Jackets. Shout you for three months. But you gotta say yes to everything everything, say yes to every fucking for the next three months. I got skits with us with all kind of n I appreciate you, but yeah, but I would say this. I would say this Bard because you know, I really do these and I really um do it. Anytime you want to speak you till you want to promote anything. This is your house. You know I'm saying. I'm saying that to say um because I respect the show, respect you for show book y'all for sure, um what y'all do for everybody else to um. He knows that I have a tendency to be like I ain't coming right, so so and I and it was a thought, but that's like, once I realized what it was about, I was like, I'm making that some way chick form. But I'm also like I said, once again, salute you for saying what you're saying about staying back. And he told me that, and I was like, oh, that's super good. And because you're you're really you're really a big staple in this game. You know what I'm saying. And it's like, even when I was like playing with BENI su recently, like a lot of times some of us don't really just because we all humble and we are just like, you know, whatever, whatever we did in life. But sometimes it's just like my good friends Ron says me, always be like I like that you humble, but fun that like, and he's like, because he's like, yo, why like if you are that dude, you know what I'm saying when you're walking in the room, you might as well just capture that. You might as will just be it. And just in case you don't know, that's what our show is about. Everyone's saying giving flowers. We started that slogan. We didn't make up the slogan, but we saw that slogan because so many people after you got ten years of more, they want to say that you washed up or whatever. That's not what it should be. If rock and roll there's no word for washed up, and jazz is no word for roshed up. And all this our society, our community are our government, for lack of a better term, us, we gotta give each other roads. We gotta keep digging each other up. I gotta keep telling you how dope it was. And even I don't all I might have took a personal maybe you probably didn't deserve it. Like that's real talk, you know what I'm saying. Like when I was looking back at the album sells and I say, okay, damn, I can see where that that's coming from. But you know, I'm young back there, I'm eighteen years old. I wonder when everything, but that's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing. And like I said, like um, for us, for us, it's always to praise each other, like because who else is gonna do it? If if I'm gonna say to you, yo, silk man, I don't know what type of year you had. That's how I knew what type of when the albums was without googling, because I knew when the ship was dropping. I was like, WHOA, and like and I'm playing in the game. So why wouldn't I say that to your face? Why wouldn't I tell you how great you are? Why wouldn't I say, you know what I'm saying, how much you meant to the culture, to the society, to the community, and not only just you, but your overall, your overall label, the ship that y'all did in this entirety, it's just means so much. So we gotta hear your roses. We gotta show you love you all the let's take. But do I get my roses forgetting the nick? No? No, no, what happened? Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by Yours truly, d J e f N and n O R E. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. Let's add Drink Champs across all platforms. At the real Noriegan, I g at Noriega on Twitter, mine is at Who's Crazy on I g at d J E f N on Twitter, and most importantly, stay up to date with the latest releases, news and merch by going to Drink champs dot com. For more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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