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Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. It's drink that's motherfucking podcast. Make He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's agreed is your boy in O R. He's a Miami hippop pioneer. Up is d J e f N. Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk fast drinks. Motherfuckings New Year's e That's it's time for Drink Champs. Trink up, mother? Would it good? Be? Hopdy would be? This is your point O R? What up is d j e FN And this is drink Chaps make something gonna be honest. I'm gonna tell you straight up and down. This is gonna be the easiest interviews we've ever had, we've ever conducted, if we've ever presented. Because I watched these these these people's story for the last two days. I know all these stories individually, but collectively, I gotta pick up. I don't know whose idea was to really out five together even though the other person is there, but it's Jeems Because at first I thought I was like, damn they got too much history. How can they fit it all in one thing? Oh it's a serious okay boom even though the series, how does it all make sense? So if you watch one and two, if people just coming out next week, I believe three or four would be out by that. It gets so crazy, like I'm telling you, and I thought I thought like it was sacred, like things were sacred. People was something was off the table like they were they giving it up. They're talking about from this is so these four individuals that's here right now, it's very suddenly I get a chance to to sit for the four individuals are so lead, respect on them, look up to and their legends. They ain't got no dirty jackets, no dirty things when they back, no, no, no fucking read Ronley Ship, their legends and they good people and in front of us, and we're gonna show them super fucking love. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry to start with you. You but hit you with a kind of harsh question because as I'm as I'm looking on episode sixty and you guys said you didn't see it. Um episode six, we're into the Nipsey Hustle rumors, right, And I had never heard that I had never heard of this conspiracy, that the big you had that stup to do with it? Right, But let me ask you, let me get to a little deeper question. The rule has it is that Nick came up to this guy and said, I can't hang with you or we can't be around because you're he was he was a rap, right. Let me ask you a question. It's kind of harsh. Was Nipsey supposed to say that if you're not in the streets no more, it is your opinion on the streets that valid? I'm asking Yeah, I mean, you gotta understand it was two things. Let me say, let me ask you this because what bothers me the most of when people say he got killed by one of his own home but at some point he wasn't his humble because he's like, Nigga, you ain't supposed to be here if you fire somebody from drink chance and then Nigga pulled back up to drinks where y'all feeling you're gonna be like NIGGD. Whn't that this grounder employees that mean he wasn't humble like so they did that part like he wasn't homie and then Secondly, no, Nipson addressed that because Nip knew who he was, like the nigga was they guy like he worked for Nip, grew up with Nip and he really wasn't his he was the man he was like, he was the guy. He really was a shooter in the streets. And secondly, it ain't no paperwork on him in Wow. So I mean we have you have to first and tell you something that happened that day. Happened, happened? What? What? What they Nipsy? I think it was a sad Sunday Nipsy or something like that. I got approached with that same situation that Saturday. Dude came up to me on in a restaurant. I was trapped and he looked he felt and he said, I'm gonna let you know right now. People saying I'm right, And I was like, oh, Ship, Like I didn't want to have this conversation and look, he just said it straight out and I was like, oh Ship. He addressed me, so I didn't have to address him. But I thought to myself, I thought about NISI immediately when that happened the next day, I was like, yo, you know that could have that actual situation could have happened to me. But as a rapper, what I've been out of line to even question a Reyal Street Dude, I mean Nip. You understand people want to remove and separating Nip from the streets. You don't never really leave the streets like this where he grew up at. This is where he lived. That's where it's business. Would So, really, dude, was in violation if you knew you right or not, if you know you're not rocking while you put up in my space. You know what I'm saying that Nip, free my space. I ain't trying to go there with you, but free my space and and and Nip supposed to go there because that's where you meet the kids, That's where he greet the people. That's where he can still stay grounded, you know what I mean. Like if he don't go there, no more, he don't show up these other things. He leave LN moved somewhere else in Hollywood. He just took pictus with some little babies. I'm saying he had blessed a little girl and some more kids. He was taking pictures with him. That's what he's supposed to do. He give them back you know what I mean, his presence is gonna touch somebody else. So if if a lane come up, if they beating, whatever the reason is, he don't have to be stitching up to be whatever. Nig you just was mad at the world, and he was mad at what the situation is. I'm not gonna stop going to my neighborhood. I live in my neighborhood. You know what I'm saying. I live on the hill in my neighborhood. Don't want to live up to We always wanted to be you know what I'm saying. Said, we wanted to get to them houses up there. So I got to the houses up there, you know what I mean. But on man, I mean, it's it's the forest. Think that violence ain't gonna follow you wherever it is. You know what I mean, It's gonna follow you where If it's gonna follow you, and if it meant for you to happen, it's gonna hit you. Period. That's real, not death. You got one of my favorite, Like Bobby Browns has my favorite cocaine story when he said he fried cocaine. He fried chicken with cocaine, And I just thought that was amazing, Like who has that much cocaine and they could convince it and people flowers. I thought Bobby Brown had it until I heard your storry death. Yeah. When I heard your story, and I was like, yo, okay, do you know the story? Okay and no, which is really crazy, but no more than r Now, I don't think about me stuff. You're really gonna check the staid just gonna be an ag cul like we just it was gonna be just that, I know when you really learned. So the story is that death? They had so much of her. Are you talking about the baby powder? Yeah? Yeah, that it was what your mom's asked. I think your brother, my father, my dad when this baby thought it was baby per you actually thought it was baby powder, said it, but it was it was you put it on. Yeah, that she had so much hermine in the house that they thought it was baby powder and put it on. How what what? What do you know that? I was, Hey, how did you know? Because I didn't know nothing? Was a kid. I was baby p Yeah, I was a kid. I'm going to up like after he took a shower and talking about Chrishall Johnson. Johnson was everything, so were thinking it was smell it let us smell like and me and my cousin Sharon just kept doing it. But I really was going on it and put it on, yeah, absorbed, and there was some real so so did you like you see you said your skin broke out or something like that. I was nodding all over the place. I was funny. I was growling up thing yo. This I don't know. It's only funny because she good. But it wasn't good then because of the stuff. That's how I learned about black chalking. It's crazy because as a kid, I learned about that that black chalk shit about them the stuff that they give you and all the things. Yeah, the stuff that they give you. And I learned that deal inside of Queen's General Hospital at that time when we went in, and I learned a lot of stuff. And I remember my dad, I could see him when he was there, and he was talking. He was talking whoever that you know. It was like some doctors, everybody, it was talking. But then I remember when we left with back, I was so drunk, uh you know. And it was crazy because my mother was like she was so angry because I got the brain for the ship that her husband did somebody asked the junkie, she wants something to eat, what she wants something like that wasn't my fault, Like I got blamed for going in there. That's the same thing with method on thinking it's orange juice in your damn refrigerator. You know what I'm saying. Used to had a ship in a damn refrigerator A long time I could. That's a don't like sunny Delight. I don't drink sunny Delights because sunny listen, don't don't. It's something that you had to know during that time. It's for so long, I was so ashamed of so many things that went on with me. But I was a product of my environment. This is where I came from, you know what I'm saying, Which was really really crazy because the bottles were sitting in the refrigerator. Remember I don't touch sunny Delight because the stick just like that ship it is, and I know we we had that for or the fetal position in the front at the house, not knowing what the hell is going on, you get the ship beat out of you. It will just be my ass for I didn't know any better. Because you have to still understand during that time, there was things that were still hidden from you. You could not know things like a child was to be seen but never heard. You couldn't and you could not discuss whatever went on in your household. Stage in your house, you bed not go outside and talk about none of this ship. You couldn't talk about these things. So those were all the things that were so deep. But yet you have all these people from all this time that's being judged by all these things. Think about like that. I go in to prisons and I talked to people, men and women. You know, I cry with them because I overstand what you went through. I thank god for the people that was out there that really looked out for me and taught me differently. Because when you was wanting to be lawyers and doctors, I want to be the biggest dope deal in the world out there, man like you couldn't be bigger than me. And I was gonna do something that no woman ever done. These are things that I was gonna be able to do because I was taught early going. You couldn't not tell me nothing about my daddy and what he knew. You understand what I'm saying. Look that was people must go game did you do with body Brown? You know, you know what's funny. I need to drink something. But checking one thing I did prowed you out for two million dollars. He was a good friend. Something I never sold one un to my friends. That's wherever, you know. I mean I sold people. I don't know, that's what I mean. You know, I mean Bobby, we never you know, did drugs. I know sold drugs because one time I've seen Bobby, he got out of betty Ford that he's in. He's in normal. We don't don't got here, baby, Please don't for heads man come out? So so checking you know, we were in a limo one day and I'm in the back seat with him, he in the middle. My other man here two of the guy's head. It's his model dude. He likes Canna do. I forgot his name. And he had passed Bobby. A joint was laced. So when when he when he when he tapped it, I mean, I mean, I mean I'm about the window. And I grabbed him and I said, Yo, I never believe what I heard you doing that in the front of me. Ye're just gonna see you know, I would miss it. Threw it out the window. I mean, so I don't condone my friends. Have a drink, come drink a family like I know before, like I was in Boster because you know, I was a bad kid, as usually, got sent down to Dorchester and that's what I first met them, where before they was anything. Families are so much alike, is pathetic, and they became like family, touched literally even though Benny was dipping dapping over there, but they were like family them. That's that's not it's not I'm not telling that you right here, I'm not really extension. We tell the story. We tell the story. He didn't even talk like flies, but they were like literally and for every one of them is one of us. Yeah, we were so much alike and outside of with people here in the media, when you learn these people like Nippy you know what I'm saying, like getting to sit with herd really knowing that you know that inside and who she is the real person to who she is, you know and who she really was. Were not looking at her and look at people like look at this singer, but nobody knew she really wanted to be a veterinarian. She didn't want to be a singer. And so if you really sat down with her and took yeah, she wants to be a vacinarian. She didn't want to be a singer. You understand what I'm saying. So it's because of the family and all the stuff that was there when the media secessionalized so many things and you don't really know that person, just like each one of us, Like you'll hear whatever you hear in the streets, whatever you hear the media, the social media ship, but you don't really know us exactly exactly. Make some noise for that. That was all. That's all. So let me ask you to check because I don't understand what is the no flies zone? What does what does that mean? Because I mean, I've come to Detroit and had marvelous times the movie, but when that was what does people what? What does it? Regul labels used to have like street teams, and that was back in the A and R days. You know, they would have a promo team take the artists, you know, and R take the artists two different lo locations, and it was like they were just coming to Detroit and wasn't picking up nothing. It was like they would charge the local artists to perform. They would charge the local artists to perform. The local artists would bring fifty sixty people sometimes to this event that will pay to get in. It's like, how is you charging them and they bringing you revenue? You know. And then you know when it kept happening with the little homies, and they were just doing it because they got money, like you know, fun that man just their own stage, and it was it was radio as well, like you know, the Summer Jams events didn't consist of all the mostly Detroit artists. They consist of everybody from everywhere else. And the Detroit artists would get charged, and I was like, funk that stop everything and only entertainment around this bitch gonna be what's here. So we're gonna get acquainted with what we got around these corners. And then we started letting a few trinklets in one at a time, and if anybody violated it, well deal with that a quarter, you know, because what's young bird like the first one I think you should give us take his chain on tours? You know, he's he's he was like a little you know, he just both guns on some other ship with my cousin. You know what I'm saying they didn't have nothing to do with it, because, like me, when when that happened to him, Bro, I was over there talking to him bodyguard during his assault. I was having a conversation with his bodyguard because his bodyguard was trying to bring a pistol in my club and I had a rude the only pistol packing and this motherfucker is gonna be me or the police or my security. So dude was trying to say he worked for the d A and all this, and I'm like, dude, I know this guy because you know it's basically picked up in local security. So I'm like, no, bro, you know basically you cannot bring a pistol on his chill. Don't worry about it not. The artists then came in the door and went further down the vestibute the balcony record. I'm still behind my bar, next to the free ice freezer talking to him on the other side of the bar. A fight broke out down that way. I'm moving him out of the way. Ran down there. I've seen one of my loanss with a jewel he coming in for the and hey, I wrapped him up, and that you're doing y'all, get this ship out of here, everybody, get the funk out, Get it out, turned back around, went back over to where the bodyguard was at, and started having to continue my conversation. His phone rang. He did like this and took off running out the door. That security Bird security. So he came back in. His name was friends or friends or some ship like that. He came back in and he said that was bird. And I said, who is bird? He said that was bird that just took his chain. I was like, well, motherfucker, I'm standing there talking to him telling me about what the funk I ain't seen nobody changing over. And so later on one of my other little homies, very very close little homie came to me. It was like, look, I got that big, big homie, and I said, get that ship out of here, because to me, that's evidence in the salt and the robberty, right, So get the funk out of here. The little homie start having their own little quarrel about it. Who was gonna get it? Who was gonna say, all right, tell you what, ain't nobody gonna take it? I got it. Ain't gonna do that over this ship. I'll take it. I took it home, put it in the fucking tower closet. Okay, the whole closet, top shop tiles. No, it was glass and stailing steel. So I took it. So I went to the studio normal cours of business, and my older sister Monique called me and she said, you know, your daughter on the internet with some chain and so my sisters in Evans, so she don't know none of this. Ship. She said, I've been getting calls at your daughter, Little Money is on the internet with some chain or something. And I'm like, I just dropped my head like, no fucking way like. So I called and she sent me the picture. I called my daughter put her on an immediate six month punishment. Let me back up, man, I'm thinking, day County l you can't mix that, man. You let ex spade is good shit. You know it won't mix with this with nothing up thinking, let me back up a little cup after I got it from after little Bro picked it up from the Little Homies. First, little Bro took a picture into Dzel. He took a picture with it on I think that night or the next night, and that picture boom. I'm like, fuck, That's when I tell him bro it's everdence. No, not this broke. He toold about somebody happened in my phone. Blah blah blaa. Okay. Then I took it, took it home. Then my sister called me and said my daughter. Then I went home, grabbing, grabbed the saying, brought it to the studio and called all at home and said, everybody come up here right now and take a picture with this piece of ship. So we're not gonna have just my household. You're gonna get everybody gonna Oh, we got older white way man and everything. Come on, I take my man, Brian bring his mama, Teresa DoD blessed Brian, tell mama, t come on up your dog, take a picture. They bought the mama and auntie. So you know, you got two old white ladies with it on. You got the other guys and they take listen, you take the picture. He's coming everything. You take it out, saying, you get in your car and take a picture with it. You're getting back of your card with it. You're gonna make this more fun. And then we took the bitch on tour. Ye, we took the mother fuck on the tour because it became a piece of show novelty. During this song, I got called you can get funked up? What dies will walk off the stage and me and my DJ Baby brod DJ Thriller have a little conversation right quick, and then it's like because you can get fucked up? And when the bet and dies Wil come out there with the bitch over and the audience erupted every time. Mice Kids was like, hey man, I don't know if y'all should be out here with Look at young bird. He's gonna be bad you. How can he changed? If you got returned? Oh ship mother, Yeah, it's like it's like you lost the ball over and not just lost. And you think you would help mothers get ship back all the way in Canada. Yeah, we got a little squad out there in Canada. Yeah, I mean it's almost everywhere. It's almost like change you got back or like Drewry or some ship bro, I mean getting ship back and don't even know I get it back, and it's just lying say I called you know what I mean? Like I know, Mother Gonna did the robbery out of somebody house for five hunted and the little Niggas and then gave the money back to him because because they used my name. And then I called and find out women the little we gave them money back, said you gave one money back and I'm mad because I don't give money back called myself. It's so crazy. It's so crazy because this documentary makes so much sense. It's because people don't know that about the four of us, and you gotta call them something better than the document It's better than the documentary. Man, Like listen, bro, listen, I want you to finish it. I started out knowing it's gonna be good because I know y'all stories and I love Like I said, I don't know what kind of connect y'all got there, but they the way they lined it up, we had a heltine. Listen to the two episodes they do is just to grab you in and then once you in, it's the episode three with Hastia. Jack starts talking about boy and you can tell he forgive them. It's like y'all start going deep and deep, and I was just like, yo, how they put it together? Because, like I said, like Bimmy's a story by itself, your story by yourself. You're a movie by yourself. Your movie by yourself for them to put it together and perfectly intertwined. I'll tell you all together the way they tell that together. And then every state it's like it was crazy because y'all five people don't touch every state on y'all went in the Run of Atlanta. Though I don't know why every everybody went on the Run of Atlanta, Like everybody in the Atlanta he's going on. It's black, but you know, it's crazy, the craziest thing. And even for me this was very therapeutic because I didn't we talking of being able to talk about it. It was like opening Pandora's box and releasing ship up out of there because coming from the effor that we came from, you don't talk. But then you really, even though you know about you really start learning things right, Like even for him, like I love this thing, but I started saying after I started looking at this, what the hell was wrong with you? Say something to this man? You could have really give something to you because he's really out to lunch games. This is the most gentleman. You're not. Like when I see somebody who's loud, voiceous and trying to be tough, it's usually the guy I look over the real dudes is one and holding the elevated for you holding the groceres a nice um. But I said, I just wanted you to finish up so about the jury thing. And you said, it's just not in lost ageless. No, it's not just you get everywhere. Likely even I've got close in the middle of the night like this one got bed County. But they really was going through it. But calling you in the middle of the night to three o'clock in the morning, four o'clock in the morning, your phone ringing like to drop and and they know, I'm just still not gonna do that, so don't try it, Northy. I'm not gonna throw people under the bus, go to my brands. But they know to call, like yo, let's up what you're doing? You know, being able to call somebody and to do these things like it's crazy. It's crazy because a lot of people went through a lot of things, and especially a lot of them that run around here like the gangster like really bad. It comes from because I was just I was just with my home, was it riding motorcycles? They do wear breeze And when I go to when I go to a certain places, like if I go to and I check in with bed. Right, that's my long book, and he asked me with a lot of stuff. But it's a lot of these youngsters who coming to the game, like she'd tell you, they never had more than in their life. They get a song and get hot. They get fifteen thousands, now a hundred thousands. They bring their whole cross squad with him and they're hitting the city of the city, right, And didn't they say? You know you somewhere and you see these youngsters? They on the east side at waffle House? Are there? Um? They where I see you all that? Where else? See your love? First of no, no yells that what's his name? Restaurant with tip Son? He got tip Son and they had um on the east Roscoes. They on the east side of Roscoes. I'm walking Roscoes on some different business because some other ship didn't happen, and I come in there to take care of some other bids with some week we ain't even it ain't no nice business. I walk in Rosco's. He ain't there with Tias and Tia littleson on. I got what the funds all doing there? I called Tip put someone for them. Doing there. They don't have no clue where they're where they are. They just there. They're thinking it's Roscoes. You're at the wrong Roscoe. There's two more. Pay more Rosco's. Go to one either one by my neighborhood or the water in the Holly Holley. But the Losco when the wrong all the on the east side, you gotta call Bagie. But but what I'm saying is this is our babies. So if he get a tour or something, he ain't gotta call. It's gonna be my problem regardless. But here in the room fucking place at the wrong time, and now all these all the dudes out there looking like m I to tell Leslie Man what I called her daddy sait Man to the thing. I don't be just running around here like this, you know what I mean? What's he good? Is his city? But they end up in the wrong places, they get it bad, they get a little bit, they're moving, and I had to call you know what I called the day. So this happens every single day in their life. And it happens more than even you even hear about it. Right, So when you say it's an appropriate question, how many you get back, bro, I get them back and they don't even know about it. And then you know what happens after they get another crew, they mess some dude some out there from the town. They side up and now if you get they know your name and tell them nigga that they're fucking with to sit out and fall all they end up there somewhere and you know what I mean. So now remember you remember I was, and that all somebody try to use you because they know something somebody dead to you. They were like, yo, guess where I'm at. Your guest, who's in here with me? Right now? Y'all got this here? If you wanted what's up that I'm just telling? They just want you to just give the okay to set. Yeah, yeah, they just want you to just say it. And it's just funny because you might even be talking ship and don't even know who you now, you don't know because nobody talks, nobody saying nothing. It's amazing to me how I could sit there and say ship, the people that you said, you don't even know who you was talking to me. You don't even know that I was on the phone listening to the ship, and I could have said, get him. I have a driver that a few drivers and uh and and police officers that called me and say, hey, you cool with this dude? Yeah, because he just know we're picking him up Detroit the whole Like I feel like, I know, you still get people that come in there and like just you know, but that's fine. I I ain't worried about you. The point is you're there and you haven't thought to try to find me, and somebody is only your ass already. But every my god, but you you're a cool niggah. Let us. Wouldn't it hit you up? I don't understand that. But let me ask you by let me ask you. But because it's setting a life long question right now, a drake chance question. This This is a code everybody, everybody, you made the phrase yes, that was better yes eight yes when first presented that you yes, because I've heard you saying I've heard it's been thrown around, but seeing you say it in that fix screen, on the f X screen, I just think I said, you wait in a minute, I need to ask this. So L comes to you. Now, he didn't come to me. We just come from Cali. Okay, he was little plane. Okay, I mean that was going back to in New York I or something. We can see here my seat here clearly first class class. So we're trying to figure out the name for the album. So we're going back and forth with names. So then he said he his last name. I remember, he said General Columbey. I don't know who the hell that is. When he said that, he was yeah. So he said that everybody knew I played ball. I'm a ballplayer. So one of my idols is earl to go, man go. So then I said, but that was what he was using the no he said. I him say, mohamma, I'll be the greatest time. But one thing he did say, he did say he breathing and said greatest of all time. He did say that, you know what I mean. But when I know, oh said that said when I said the goat, I said, yo, you go. You know what I'm saying, come an go And then he broke down, he broke down the letters. He said rap, you know, so he was gonna let rap and then he came with the goat, you know. And then when I came in the building, you know how I go. You go to to the president is like yo, just the name of the album. So then you know your boy Jaz got niggers like scrapping seat was what was the because he called us off the goat, so a lot of rappers was mad. I mean he talked about it. I'm like the niggas man, you know what I mean, like we we you do go, bro, you do go? Now another thing you said the thing hold on gonna cut you. Okay. I want to tell people how men you met ship man. I ain't gonna the old niggers man, I don't know you forget ship tell you how we met my little man in a wheel chair. He moved in your side. Okay, yeah, okay, I've got two guys over there. Came over there and now you was I know, huh And I said, he said, And you can't mean you had a staring match. Okay. We just looked at each other like like on some ship. But we're ready. You're ready by yourself. He walked up by yourself and he was right. You know. I was like, I mean, he was like, yo, no, no, no, he good. But you know he told you, but he good, and we we squashed. Yeah, I remember that day. But you don't let me just tell you something. This is this is something that touched me. Pause was when because I didn't know how much you deserve to be in death Chad, Like I thought just just the gangster, just being hired, right, but when you said how deep you was in the game where Tina Davis actually you said this is you actually names to say that you got always next week Gay actually named her name. You said Tina Davis and then you said you went in her office and tell your face. He said, yeah, I don't want you to have these artists, Like how you had these other artists. Yea, was that the first time? Like that's the industry ship, this industry one on one. You know what's crazy? Me and Tina had a great relationship. Like I go to a crib. I don't smoke weed. I go to cribit smoke weed. Because she came from l A. She had nobody through family, so you know, I became a family. So I come to a crib, I'm her room, me and smoking you. No, no sexual nothing, none of that. Mem just cool because you choose, you know, shoot the bass. Sheoos my boss. So mean, they got real tight. We go to the shoot to follow a movie dinner. You know, we do a lot of things together. So one day on du the West coast, I flew to the first coast first and then mean they'll see back in the chin chain or sunset. We we're doing because we're just meeting. So we're going through our things with or he said, we gotta go to Florida the Circle House. So we're little Circle House in Florida, and dumb said, Yo, my nigga, you don't want us to work together something like huh, so by surprise. So now I'll get back to New York. I go to Kenna Lives. I call, I should Tina tell my artists you didn't want to work with me? He said, Yo're gonna work that album. I go to Tina, Tina, what are you telling artists that you want to work with me? Now? Tina says, you ain't gonna have him where you got? Anybody on the label said the documentary. But I don't understand what you mean by that. But everybody, like everybody in my background, but they've seen the records I'm putting out. And then he was busting that so Zeka douse the whole album, and I got caught out there because I went to Leo they give me a point on every album, right and and and he's I said, yo, I didn't get no extra money. Chi is gonna platinum ship is and me, he said, you gotta do a diamond to get money off these albums with the pointible diamond, you know what I mean, for me to get some extra money. And I'm like, fuck, the only one doing the white people. You don't mean, I'm not you know what I mean? So so um so boom so kep kep almost going to meetings the l A I l you know what I mean, I'm not going back there. Else didn't give me your worth anyway. So so I said, I'm not gonna work. Yeah, But my point is, like, was that the first time you felt like, oh this this is not the streets. You know what I'm saying, because you know like that that ship is kind of standard in the industry. Just look at you, slight in your face, and as soon as you turn around like in the like on the streets, that's violation. But like that that was my biggest transition, was like, yo, I can't I can't strangle everybody that, you know what I mean? Like, so, what's that their first industry moment it was. It was it was like really beginning because when I come from really the trench, and so I'm being around you, you you're you know how to pipe down, You're not just sit back and just you know, be quiet, you know, watch the bullshit? Would you like? But no, ones don't come near you know what I mean? But you like, but you gotta take it. I'm in meetings, this guy talking on the term, this girl talking, he's just looking at old him, Mike. But you even when I see Kaza, he would say to me, like, I know, you get I didn't know. You're not supposed to know. But Jack said, like, heyitian, Jack said, you ain't supposed to know. So I'm not coming in here and want some bullshit. I know. Also, this table, we're all black ball already. Shure, we're coming to building. Like how you just said you just said that you street you you know what I mean? You mean? You mean that's how we always been a question. Let me let me ask you this, because this is just some real that ship. Like when you're talking about the industry and something about the streets. Right, most of the people that's in there, they used the streets inside of the building. So how do you not how do you not handle them that way when you know where they really come from? But you know what they really turned into. I left up in there one time inside it, I was so goddamn mad at a bullshit that they was doing. And I called somebody or Uncle Tom, and they everybody at the table turned down. You should have seen her. They looked at me. They was pisan and it's just where it happened, and you and I stood up. They was heated, Dad, Why would you say that the funking mean while would I say that? You know what I'm saying? Like this bitch asked niggas No, but this is what you're gonna do to me. But you know what they want you to do, and you are actually come in my face and trying to pacify me when I know what time it is. So how do you ignore something like that when you know where they came from, you know how they're plane you, You know what they're hired to come and appease you, to try to shut you down and slow you down. And it became bad because me being a woman that came in there soon. I came in there first. They didn't know they didn't put two and two together that office his big sister. Yeah, I didn't too recently. I didn't because you both left a separate like they like, let's say that's just separate word. That's like me and I want to from queens so I know her story and just like that, just make it on top like the that's like I want together yea in the film. And it was different, different when I went into the building because they would then say that's bad me sa after while because the first time I bucked up in there when we're talking about in the car, first time I bucked up in there, Todd, I ain't got gotdamn problem saying that, nobody about to start doing it. But he started his bullshit. And that's when I flipped that, you know what I'm saying, that they knew, and that's and they brought him up like you know, that's that's his system, you know what I'm saying. But we're different people were different people, you know, so and it was just it was just crazy and different theirs. When Okay, we gotta get up a body here, we gotta move away from everybody. We gotta do it because you can't play with me. When it came to me and like, did one of these things, like he just signed over on this and we do this and this and we're gonna give you. Is it harder because like at whole point you had you had like the three artists you discovered, the three biggest one three of the biggest artists. We could have a Gucci, Nikki and French, Right, Is it harder because you're a woman or see, I know I never looked at it like that. You have to understand, even if you listen to me, I didn't run with women. I had women that I was around. Like if you tell some of them, they're gonna look at you, each one of them and tell you something different. Like I learned the amount of lives that I lived, and I've learned that how it was being the multiple people that I was. It was, It's really really crazy. I hung out with man, I did a lot of ship. I was right behind him and ship and he didn't even know stuff that was going on with some of them niggas, and the stuff that I niggas was coming to me. She told Prince one day killed my brother. Yeah, it is on you killed my brother, you know what? My love Prince that's my nigga. But you talking about killing my brother. My nigga is on. I framed out through the streets, like you know what they need? What she did. She didn't even know that step him when he was coming for him. I went to him because that came to me with him. Yeah, this is another thing that's so crazy. But even when you say crazy, what'st But this is another thing that's like so ill that when you're doing all of this stuff, like even in this music industry, like you're talking about l A, you talk about the try to talking about the landing, to about New York, you're talking about going into the States. I remember, like especially with Gucci because you know everybody name mother wanted to hit his ass. You know what I'm saying. But I remember we was in the airport and I'm going down the escalator because it was so crazy. This is down the airputus F that ship. We go to New York tomorrow or whatever. But I get a phone call and it said, Yo, you got them on DOTTA out of your flight is DOTTA data You coming into data da da da And they come inside. Just got the call and they said they had to hold up your sisters with him, But you put on something, my nigga, you know where I come from. You just didn't know who I was. You understand what I'm saying, and you went to put this order out on him. But the phone call came to Queens, letting my other brother know, your sisters coming in and this is what they're doing, he said, devils in the airport right now, coming over where to let you know. Now we're making a call. Now this whole thing could have backed up and backfy on you because we held that kind of weight like that, and it's like that, what's up? Like once I called them like are you serious? You know what I'm saying. So you don't know, but that's the order because we didn't go through Burrows. We just didn't go through Manhattan to do something. And I ran everywhere. I was in multiple games when I came up. I was in multiple games. Even when the fight was I could sit in there on the bench watching everybody's fight against each other because it was cold. How many jackets did I have? Okay, I was cool with everyone, you know what I'm saying. So I was in a bunch of different things. I ain't a real click person. Yeah, Jackie, that's what it was. It was crazy like the stuff that I was doing, all the different things, but I never went somewhere like even in the like I feel like the president of the United States, and I'll come into Chroit the way they come to the airport to come get me, the way that they are there. I get crazy loving to try to love to Detroit Airport though, Yeah, airport, that's what gotta be. The Harvest Airport. You gotta. Yeah, but you got a lot of persons know that you're there. That's like, I can't go into his city and put something together that he's doing. It's just the scheport. I'm checking it. I don't think checking it. I don't think checking in anything. I don't think that's I think that the words in the ste comes with me and don't we don't check. Maybe if you're going you're saying, just say it's the word check the people think you know, the word check in seems dominant and make people think you know, like you have to like they pauns. But yes, check out a pencil and pat and take notes because we're gonna take you back to school and hope that you get educated with this. This ain't got nothing to do with that. I don't care about answering to somebody that I need this. Queens is the biggest birl, right, Queezy. I used to break down Queens like the busses and the trains because we're we're all the trains left for a Queens Bridge, a story of what'side. But then as a part you get the Bosons worter board. You only take the dollar vaans or the buses. So that's how I break down Queens. I'm dyslexic, right, so I see the queezing of the buzzer. And at one point, going to South Jamaica, you just couldn't go the side to making us had a friend, you couldn't go to Fort Cross, you couldn't go to Basie. I had to have my friend or my cousins or my uncle or somebody, and I had to hit them. And there was nothing wrong with that. But it was everything that was going on over there. It was organized and then and being organized, it was also protected. You understand what I'm saying. We was on all sides because we was on the north side and the south side. We came from both sides. You understand what I'm saying side Corona too, right, Um, but Corona was really me. Wow, Corona was me, Like there's a lot of stuff that I didn't Yeah, it's like like I did a lot of stuff in Corona. But it's like literally we could go everywhere. And then we had a sister that was international, Like she was everywhere. It is a movie about your family. Yeah, it's like she was. She was everywhere your family. It was Yeah, it was. It was a crazy how it was. But it was the corruption that we were still under because you have to understand, and it was multicultural. We know. It was great because, like you just said, we had a movie. I had like five sisters. You know, one night I'm gonna Chris, Mike Tyson is being on window pass to get it off. Yeah, Mike Tyson's being on the window for one of my sisters stopped right there. Hold on, this is Mike Tyxon. Tyson not like coming up like nothing. He's coming up. He's like champion. You know what I'm saying. But my sisters they're so wild and crazy they won't need anything. Bug out. They don't want Mike Tyson, they don't want DMC, they don't want David Eons who played George, Tom and DC made music and my mother's living room right and right side with his big forty eight old eight hundred. You look like the fourth memo. See at my point, don't you know? It's crazy Leo Cohen. He's kicking me and current Me and Hurricane on the tour to d because he's fighting every day every single went to hear every single we went to be four every we just one time. We we just do do like I found what's the road manager that Yeah he's man. He was the carriage suitcases. They're looking at him to that. So this dude he threw like like a thud, will change that run run performing like he and dudes due change on the stage that run change no change like quarters Dymonds. Yeah, disrespectful. So so me and King I got the right side, King left side, So so run look at you know, to the mic like that see him and we're like we got him right, So we so he an audience. So now to dude, throw some more change. Me and Hurricanes run acrourd stage diving audience. Get them we do we gotta do. Now we're dragging them out right. So now I got his legs. Hurricane got his top. He's out. We knocked him out in Amy. So we're dragging him out to Mookie and Garfield. That got the geld. So Mook and Garfield they said, yo, let him go, bive me, letm go, let him go. Let them go right, So now they were l L thing with us. We're running them. See l J was on the toy too. So um I said, away, how crazy? It just crazy. He's saying it like it's like ship you know, even like but like it's like I told Kane, I said, drop his legs. I'm gonna drop. I'm gonna you know. He didn't drop his legs. I dropped the nick on his head. It was the boom. So now four days later, I'm getting to that. All right, Yeah, let's taketh But for people to take notes, who's supposed to checking? No? What it cheaches you listen. One of the things that happens as this go on, after years go on, the history changes because they changed the history. Okay, if apartment, because you're gon put it like this, I checked in with you coming here. I would call you every time I came here. You had to win the ecstasy. Let's say how check that literally checking ain't got but you're getting you get. Guy gonna check expecting expect respect. It's really respect about I want to have you somebody that sucking from there. Yet I'm saying that it's relatable because the thing about it is if I don't know nobody there, you know, you know what I did in this place is and I'd love to say this place, this place, And dudes who don't Germany you love that place, literally don't. They've never met, they've never been, have been in the office. They don't know what the hell they say, but they're just you kind of make your crew. So when you're comfortable, you can live in the same way everywhere you gowhere out nothing the work stage. We go to what country? He needs to hunt right because he wants to go straight to the hood. Every time I go somewhere, I did just go straight there. I need to see what's going on in your city. I need to know who was who and what's happening there. You have to understand that even for me as the woman and what they were so upset about, Nigga, what y'all to understand the streets had me that was good to them and they say good to me, I didn't ackle. I didn't know them because I remember where I came from. I don't never forget where I come from, because I could always go back there. Everything that goes up comes down, and everything and everybody has an expliration. Date You understand what I'm saying. So I want to be able to go wherever I can go and be the same person. If you see me in a dollar tree, don't ask me what the hell I'm doing in there? What the hell you're doing in there? I'm doing what you're doing. Don't actually that you see me a warm I speak to me. Don't see me like I'm some kind of free and you got me looking at me saying, damn, what happened? You know what I'm saying. That's something with my weird cricket and something happen. They're like, what's going on in this stitch? Like you Cras, I ain't think you would be up in here, But what job you got thinking? This is a question for all of y'all. I'm ready for a shot after that thing. It's a question do y'all realize that y'all are celebrities too? Like? Yo, that's not a celebration time. Now, celebrity is about celebration to me, and what do you celebrate? I'm not ready to celebrate. I don't what does that mean? What I mean is this people who want to be you once? That is this person that want to be you. You're a celebrity, like when this this this girl somewhere, Um, that's that's gonna say. Now I'm gonna do a girl shot and do a girl shots. I'm gonna do a girl You could not disrespect that. God didn't drink on camera. Don't mr Dad drink you check out. Let me tell you. You just say I was gonna take it as a show out. You can't shot that drinking. Drink drink drink, get it all day. Don't hurt that way. Drink drinking down, drink your hole sho drink the whole shot. No, but get you. I'm just saying, you cannot disrespect little true. You've been understanding my mixed. He took it as the poor the ship but mixing. I don't know about the same. But its don't stay with him holding shot like that ship, hold on that shot. Don't you don't do that. I got a shot. I doesn't love a shot. Well, I don't listen to do what you don't know what that says. I know what it is you bought shot. Use even speak to off shows about giving people their flowers when they alive. So many people they're getting this game ten years or more and they say that they washed up, and they say that they We want to push the narrative against that. When we got tim ears or more in this game. You want to say you seasoned. That's right, you understand saying you well broomed. And we want to salute your all for y'all. I'm a fan of all y'all individuality. Like I said, I can't believe and to y'all, but I still love it. But I knew you to understand something because I can't let you go just OK. You said how easy we was not that's the good thing about it. I'm still a mother hen and I'm still everything. You paid for him, came for him, came for him, and you checked him about what he wants to mixtures drink. No, you're missing the stip. This is what I missed o the stuff. And now I told him to pull me a shot. But what I was gonna do is take shots at asa space, which is not really a shot. He was. He was doing something right. I had to get Jack. Should do it. Y'all better make sure you getting Jeff. Jeff. Remember I tell you, don't go and punishment. Be nice, be nice. I love you. I love you. I gotta wanted ahead of time. He what's up with it? Guys? Don't put them check together. Hey, we're gonna take over the world when you come back. I'm with you. Let's go Jack, you man, salute, I said, salute Dad. You can't hit me. Yeah, let me get some more? All right, all right, yeah, you're go ahead. Now, I'm just saying, what's up? That's all okay? You literally have enough time. You're like Dominican father got damn and she looked. Just then we got the mom want to hear here put it. That's what I was to one more thing. Okay, that's one. Give hers by the flowers wide here, right. I tried this funny, but you did not pull this drink from me. No, but it's gonna care because somebody could y'all spit to that. Somebody could think you put my drink and you did. Now you just took a shot from me. So I gotta get to hell. I got correctly. Yeah, we take out, they're not taking off. I got you, I got you. Yeah, what's going on? Jack is Alory? Man? Just watch your show? What's up? Baby up? I just watched your show. Man. Let me actually real quick, because you know you're the only one that's not here. But what made you want to do the show? Period? Well? You know, and you're calling me a couple of times on it, and uh, he told me it was gonna be seven different special But at the time I was as something else. I was gonna gonna gonna do so but Big you convinced. He said, listen, man, this is only gonna help whatever you're gonna do down the line. And I'm glad I listened to him and took in his fights and did this person, because now it's fulfilled me to other things. You understand what I'm saying. So was that definitely glad He stayed on top of me and man made me do this. You know it was It was the right move. Okay, I got another question for you too. Now. In the in the documentary, you addressed the TUPAC situation for the first time, the first time ever, you actually addressed the situation. You know what I'm saying. Everyone always wanted to know that and was that tough for you or that was something that it felt good after got it off your chest. Listen, I always wanted to tell a story. The problem is this, You'll never be able to change TUPOC fans minds on whatever Pox says. It's almost like the Trump fans that still believe he won the presidential race. You feel me, but I need. The thing about it is this the ny actually ribbed and shot Pop is on YouTube telling niggas he did it. You feel me, but they don't want it, and they don't want that to be the guy. Can't be the guy. You know, people believe what they want to believe. You couldn't stop them from believe. I know that he did it, not that I said them, but I know he did it because the hood, you know, whatever, everything goes down, who did what right? So they don't want to listen to him because he didn't say that. Jack was so my thing. Anybody will know me like a contold him the other day. If I do something to you right, I will tell you I didn't you understand because I don't care about what another nigga want to do in these streets because we can go head up. All you gotta do suit up and I'm with you. Then you do. But as long as the statue of limitation ran out and I don't have to worry about the law, I'll tell the world I did it. And I'm still telling you I didn't do it and I had nothing to do with it. Now this is the last question. It's the last question because I know you know you remotely? Um, did you really have Madonna? Jerk Chicken and Flatbush? Yeah, right next to to the comedy club right liket on to a seventeen and Lendon. We went on over listen Madonna as a real chick dog. She's not afraid to go on no hood. She's out because one of my partners squeezed the ass and U and Manhattan Brother she said, Hey, what are your buddies over that squeeze my ass? He's alive. Oh that's doesn't phase. We're going what yo, yo, Well, respect hasan jack. We're giving you your flowers. You know what I'm saying. You know what? We were walking around and come see you in Dominican will public drink chats Man. We won't let you know, baby, respect, respect my brother. All right? Oh my god, So that goes. That's the perfect alley you to you in another world. In another world, you're hazy. Jack might have not been cool. And I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why you got those two You got those two records lined up. I wanted this. I made these just. I mean it to everybody. But I want you to two records real cract what has made me look crazy? So if you had to shit lined up? Look, we got gettle ass because it's all okay everyone, so we all yeah, that's something right here. You still that's something right there? Yeah, that's that's good. Wait wait wait wait wait no no no, no, no no no the second way that yeah good. I'm I'm all blue ship. Yeah this because this is this is a great question I need at This is one of the room. This is the same person I want you to hear. She was not that all right, we're looking almost okay, bottom right the bottom. Yeah, it's pretty I'm just looking at that. But I was listening to Jack, right, and we all go through the same ship, man, we go through it. When when when the end of that is so powerful now with ignorance music kind of get that cripple up. I ain't gonna lie. I'll trade you. I'll trade you. Let me let me smoke down with character. You guys do it trade hell even I don't even know what's got good weading that ship, but I don't just try. You want the blunt to see that practice. I see that. You see that blue smoke. I like that BSM hat like that. Then chrish papers, but you see that blue smoke because yeah, paper so you I'm starting to get a little activated with this fight. We don't make fire by stuff when you can fight it out. I just got started. Yeah, because y'all besting up the fight that blue paper man blue smoke. But now let's just gets say because I always want to say this right, and it's just feeding up with Jackson. The ignorance is the ignorance on the internet is so so crazy and I wouldn't even feed into it. But like we were just talking, thank you jacking some ship than accuse me they've been in the accused me of media never really brought to it, just the social media, and this is like a social media platform. A motherfucker could be in jail for something, had a reason why he did it. But the bookie man got me, did you like? Yeah, who's staying in the game from it? Go deal with the people who's standing in the game from it from the motherfucker's who got his bag? Who take care of his perse? Who doing a whole life? What about that? Motherfuckers? You know what I mean? How do I you know what I mean? My man came and got me when he when he got on, when he got it, he gave me me popular he was the first one before, he was the first want to bring me into the music. But he didn't corrupt. And then and then when it went from there, did I went to prison? Do when I was doing and and and with me? While Jack is and what niggas is so funny and Jack don't tell the story. We couldn't get the story in To add the jatt Jack was in l A up in to two thousand fourteen. He says it on the documentary, Oh I know you know, no no, but he not. It's not really said. So all the l A niggers need to realize this niggas was. This nigga was in l A to two thousand fourteen. Running one of the biggest dives in l A when niggas had to pay to come to I'm gonna say that against what's the do your bar? Yeah, I'm trying. He was running. He was running. He was running um out the Marina two thousand fourteen. I come home with two thousand four The men was on ten years. I didn't even know it, not never met pocket. All of that was like I said that hold running death rold Wrue. I was gone. I left the nineteen ninety one and then people always talking about I got about two tho two tho four, two th four. So you gotta remember when I said that about shig shook in the in the in the whole death Road moment was after the riots. After the riots, there was a peace treaty movement that everybody is any starting letting people going places. Before that, it was my world and I'm missing you want and I want to know no money ship like other niggles was getting money. I already was getting I was getting money, and I was getting paid by everything in the city. Darn me. If they was getting money. So if he was getting money, he was already getting the bag. He just paying me ten thousands of money? Was who you hold anybody for? This? Are okay? From the react Listen to both of these brackets with quick oh um, I wanted to add a whole record and because oh this gouffing it stuff. Yeah, we got a just man say, it's the first time we did this kind of work. But this is is a question I need ask. This is this little you see how it's like a little for time? How you can be atographic you've been as got that? How kid this artist? Are you ready for the next record? Make sure you lined up this time? Man? It made me bunked up? How did this artists make this wack? I was my art part the other day. I'm jogging on like it. But I was jogging the other day and my art part pay he's back to back and I said this, this is crazy. Listen to this is I told something. You're right and you're gonna stand how you know y'all, but not this. Something happen this, If something happens to you, I don't gonna fuck who what win? Where A nigga's gonna turn you against everything until you get to understand pin point black, I'm not even trying to understand what the funk happened? And I'm really not even caring if you had something to do with it, you ain't turning again. But farther the certain fuck you too, huh? And I mean, and now I got I got some niggas who gonna ride with me? You know what I'm saying. I got this nigga I'm still like in real life tupacas a California guy. No, but but no, he came up an open Yeah. Yeah, it was his he's me to the whole show up the way he wrote down Louie, y'all, it's so low y'all niggas that can't break it down here if I still he was just yeah, Skelly, you know what kind of new y'all nidias from what is you've been to twenty years? People know what it is like, Yeah, but hold hold on it. In l A can tell me about l AN. I don't know l A this right round this l An tell me about restaurants and days, say, nigga, come meet me at this studio and meet me at this place. And I'm like, where the fund is that. I'm like, it's real talk. But then that don't mean they know NIGGAO. It's niggas in l A right now that's claiming the fame of other niggas ship. But then there's real things in l A who really should be getting that and they don't get it. Bring me back to this show right here, Bring me back to the show. These people right here. I could have put a whole lot of people on this show, but I need to. I don't want to think it. Who's filthy rich, It don't fit the storyline. I need the nigga who lost something. I need them, motherfucker who like her. I need kills, I need tricks, I need to nigga. I want to tell the I together I need. But no, no, look at this, chill Okay. This is the first time in history you have the East coast to west coast, the Nigwest, the South. You have four respaces on one because the South to Yeah, but you have to look at this. We're all the same people, all these same things that we had common denominators. That that's why I say, check out a princil and Paddy Chick. No, because even when my son when what was looking at us and he broke this thing down to me, like my kids are my son's even though they knew I did things, but they didn't know what I did. I had to prepare them for a lot of things also because they didn't know what the hell I did, you know what I'm saying. They just knew that there were some things going on, you know what I'm saying, That mother was rugging or whatever, But they just didn't know because the child was to be seen and not heard. But all of us, all of us are saying, let me brand this to you when I come home. Right now, I remember, I get out of prison two thousand four. I just did three years and nine months in the California shoot. That's the that's the that's that's the whole, that's the whole lot of I don't got nothing him Pop, I don't know him, Pop, I don't know. I don't know that you in the hole because of who you are. Shot demo on somebody on New York. He said he sees you in jail and you were just sitting there beating the niggas the same time. But let me, let me said, he was just talking to it like yeah, yeah, I described Africa. So so when I come home, when I come home in two thousand four. It's a whole world now that's just moving like this. I don't have no clue who nobody is. I don't even know who, dislike who. I don't even know like what's on woom? And Brian flopped me to New York and it's my first time in New York. And I don't know how many years Brian Prescott fly me to New York. Who come out? I'm tip, I don't know who, like who do who? Don't know Lou, I don't know who, like nobody. I'm just moving. So that's how meet Motherfucker's. But then I'm seeing all the different beasts that's going on and nas niggas just from somebody was was Lucas? Was that at that time Ta was on his way out um hip hop beats, And I'm looking at all these niggas and I'm saying, all these things got these all securities, like and I was just tripping off like this thing is as basketball player? What is he really? And so I'm looking at all this ship and I'm saying to myself like I'm fresh out of prison, and I'm saying to myself, like what a hip hop? Where the thugs that what the real street niggas at that in handah, So then I'm moving along and now i'm I'm I'm looking for the real niggas in hip hop. I see a lot of things that could be gay, a lot of could be whatever. Hey, you know, And I was, but but I don't find that Sugar is gone. That's my phone, Sugar is gone doing four years he's still yeah, he's still. He come on five months after I come on. But when I was home, it was a whole lot of weird ship. So I was kind of like stand office in this ship. So I with my dog for a while with ship and here you go, here I see play. We did a for like three years. Then I wouldn't gotten to start out there about your gas in pink pom, just start out there. So I was so so so now y'all, y'all still have to be from the west to the east, because even when I was going to kill my here with to New York with corround in Miami, it was still niggas who was tripping off of corruptim for what was that ship kicking up New York when he never even meant to this, y'all. I know, I know he said, you don't know that. I didn't know that after we knew can do that's my best whole friends. I know that. But back then y'all thought it was We thought it was the same way Popua. So y'all need and I'm taking you back to the park to the show you park took them. Don't learn of these go to the product. Crazy old man was only trying to show respecting this coach for a movie that dominated everything. Can you remember moved musically? We we dominated films right the West coast, We gavi we dominated the film ward like boys in the hood, dope boys, boys hood boyshoods decided all that dominant that took our culture around the world. Don't boy was based on your life, No, don't went. It was just all of us was like all of us had Jerry girls in the but it was. It was shot in the sixth He's in our neighborhood. What y'all Signton grew up at. So it was shot two blocks from my house on my big Homie Street. Like it was shouting Simaron is Simarron hash Dannass Portington where I grew up there, and it's right on the round the corner so I can walk and then me four minutes walking, I didn't find this two three minutes walking to be on the street where they shot. The whole movie was shot in our neighborhood. And the crazy thing when they shot the motherfucker. We didn't have no idea it was gonna be come nast He like asked us, do we want to be in the We have any day? Was by that movie? What are you talking about? But let me finish though, listen, so you compare that the part but y'all live part life. Okay, y'all tripped up some niggers who weren't even who was trying to say, y'all respect, I don't left okay, all right. I was the guy who did l A l A yes you are, yes you music. We thought, I don't want to load it up as I told about friends shot pay us the real stories. We didn't know, Davids this said, we didn't know, but we wanted to respond because we went so it wasn't part of the video because the video what happened They came out there and this was true. Niggas want to responding. He niggas wanted to stepping up, but listen, step he stepping up. It's after the big. We're not ret a little Big called the This is when Big said they can't be filming that here, and he called the radio and we don't know what that now, hard on, let me stop you right there again. I'm taking over the show. Okay, that's got a camera gonna happen, right, happen. So now who called one big? He did call the radio like um, So the West coast was to feel a certain kind of way. Will they be right? Yeah? Okay, But the thing was, the thing was um and this is going was hurt. Bront was because Corrupt took so much bet because he lost all of the East Coast. You gotta remember y'all destroyed one of you destroying anybody else. Let me broke up back still, let the real story. Let me take something. After we squashed it, we squashed it once you squashed we squashed it me and you was family. Corrupt still made a record hate this Spatsy Browns after it, Brown said he made it heat this anybody, I'm gonna tell you the story. This is how I knew your motherfucker's go back to the big. Okay, no, you know, actually you want to tres n. I got you, I got you. Gotta stay on. I tell you. I just told him you heard crew up. But I don't let me just take let just say something. So after that, after we squashed it, we squashed it. This is it like when we family. Now, he flies to Philly. The plane over heats, he has to land in New York. He just this DMX, He just this rough Riders, He just this. All these do is my album released, Party Bay. He lands a hit me. I can't put this on your homie, but I'm in your city. I'm in New York. I'm about to get Philly, but I gotta call you. Picked the nigger up. That's another another time. That's a whole another time. But I've tried it. I only come to them so freeze. The only cold I had was a great red Yankee jacket. And this is what I knew. These niggers said, Nope, I think you freeze it out here. You can't do it free like no, what's gonna know? Like just what they check it on. But anyway, so he just makes his co sign this, He just makes his record. Said, cause I can't go to no New York club. After I just made this. I know I was one for making it, but I said, Yo, you with me? He said the story and I throw him to Carbon Club. I looked at like the most traitorous New York dude. That was like was the stake. I was like, no, he's with me, and that was it. That was it. I never know him. I'm gonna go back sweaters on the plat. Yes the fact, Yeah, now you plot. I was looking at that you made this song. I know I did not. Yeah, we made our apply that was it wasn't it didn't look at it right. But it wasn't a disk too, they acause we didn't know. But when the video came out and the buildings was kicked down, that's when we changed our video. If you listen to the song, the song has nothing to do with the disk. It's just l A l A just responding what was to respond respond to what? Because that's what it was, right, But let's spart video. Let's don't. He said that Tupop was firing on the East coast. They were guess what listen. Yeah, like I was born. I was the brokest chick ever at that time. I was seeing this when here missing yeah, they w wasn't together like uh snoop, Corrupt wasn't on the same page. It was one block of Joe and they want all together. They was like it was like, yeah, yeah, we're death Robert. We ain't got no beef for ten and and and Corrupt was on his way out to do it right behind Drake at the time. So so it was really gonna be uh snoople the only want to being left on death road. There was really not together at that moment. While so when they were trying to make a song to show them that they had respect for him, they took it the other way. And this is what I'm trying to get you. That's like that. But he keep to me and I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest like those that was crazy because look, not your story. I said, I said, you know, I've never I've never been in the roller seat. I got, I've never been to the actually rolling the sixties hood. And before I could even finish my thought, I said, like a corrupt, your friend, that's the hood. You went to corrupt round me through there and I ain't gonna lie. And it's eight trade next to that. Yeah, they's not it's between them. It's it's the coupling one or two sets. Right before we get there, I'm trips. It is because it's Monster. I remember reading Monster Cody's book right when I read the Ship, and then when I went to the corrector with the hood, we went to get weed or some ship, and he was like, just the sixties come and I was just like this, this is a different neighborhood. Like it's like like you know, like like the same thing being pre team, Like like what kind of is that a plus or minus? Being so notorious like that it's a gift and curse. But the thing that's so hell listening to everything you guys are saying right here, and for everybody that's going to see this right think about the amount of people's lives that could have been saved had we not reacted a certain kind of way. And that's why it's important for these stories to be told. And even for me, while I wanted, I'm thinking people they lying and they say, you don't know, damn think about me, but you've seen it. Don't be better than me. Sometimes I tell people, one day I want to meet her because I don't know who you know, I don't even know who I am, But just think about the stuff, even stuff that people might have to say about me. You don't even god damn know me, but you have all these things to say about me because of something that someone said. So now you're gonna be in agreement with them. You understand what I'm saying. So just think about the reaction to you the broken kid out of them are, because you know those are the ones that's gonna kick off first. Anyway, you know what I'm saying, because I need to be seen, I need to be heard. I need somebody to know who I am. But think about all the people whose lives could still be here today, who's not locked up and in the midst of the standards of the East Coast and the West Coast fight because if we had since then, because we all know how to get money. Everybody here, we all got to get money. We came up, know how to get money. Just anybody ever told us how to keep the ship. Okay, But if we had the smarts there he said something that was in ingenius, the movies was there, the music was here. But if we had that person that could put them things together, then these people couldn't do what they do. Instead, they kept slavery there. And here's here's the thing how I summed this stuff. Every year I look to see who is going to be the house nigga this year. Okay, So they grabbed that guy whoever just coming out of jail, and he got them that sign, all of them artists. So now they get the house nigger to put the film niggers together, to shut them down, close them down so that they can work and do all the ship that they want to do. And we come in there and go and get each other with the ship. That's how the ship goes. That's all. We can't get that out of our heads. Let me tell you to keep to it. That's that's how they let me then. And I wasn't finished with Trick going to take over this because what we always roll over is what Trick was saying. We are owned by Europeans. Hip Hop is owned by Europeans who are now giving it to their kids. They're hiring their kids. They've becoming a president as a manager, and they no more than we know. And there's our life and it goes to him. It goes to him. He goes to him because like, he said, how are you telling me? How are you gonna do hip hop in my city? And you but listen to what he said though, that's what this documentary was about. So I'm like, look, let's go get the people to tell the story. She got the story to tell them about this. But we we ain't. We ain't sent thirty minutes on him. We sent thirty minutes on him because we're just passing over the fact that it's a business and we're not on the business side. What did he say? You're coming in with your radio, you bring your machine in my shit, and you ain't and ain't none of us in. You can kissing. But what I'm telling me little this, that's the whole damn thing. But I didn't realize that booty shaking song you made. I didn't know that was you all year yall together loose song. That's what I'm like, that's little way, that's that I said. I never heard that. So many jobs, that's it. That's that say. I'm like, I didn't they got it right? What's it? So you with the freaking yeah, you see these been just bouncing, all of these I hadn't make one of Yeah, that's what they're doing make some noise. Nevergor came on, and whenever reggae came on, that's no I would have lost some hundred dollars. I said, there's no way I had to cool that. I didn't trust the documentary. I said, there's no way that I made that. And then I said, only you know so this is real ship that because you that's like what I did with reggae dolls. Wa to Porter we Sei, I said, I gonna make one of all. That's when you did. Ye explained that I knew my way in had to be Yeah, boys, yeah when I get when I get, I got out a plan when I get out. But I can't come back at him, you know so? And you went gold to that did not make your think watching this documentary, just hearing a piece of it's a sentence of each person. Did it not make did it not take you back to where we started out? That? It made me? It's not. It made me feel so proud because you know what it is. They I like the word gangster because gangster doesn't mean Gangsteruff means that you take care of your family, Like you know what I'm saying, Like I grew up. I actually named it my whole company dubbed because I wanted to be that. But when I realized this, I didn't want to That wasn't the way it is. That's that's not the way. That's the other way I said have been like you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm more happy being happy, that's real, Like I'm not really I'm more happy being happy. Before I was trying to be the other version of that happy, like alright, cool, you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, it's just crazy. So how was it? Right? Let's just miss clipping a bounce it him and them calls you. You get described because he calls you that's coming right, running book? You got distracted? Though? It was beef what he calls him for to get on the rackets. Yeah yeah, let's break that down. Yeah, I mean ship were he called like a cause where you're at my mom in the hood. He's like, hey, bro, I need to see you at the studio as soon as possible. That you thought you need to back him up, was like back something, Yeah, a problem, I ain't already taking care of you. His problem was my little home because Proof was in the good squad. But you right, and stop. Okay, y'all. That was Marshall was his man. That's how I met Marshall. But so when I pulled up to the studio, so he jumped in and put the CD and and it was a song Welcome to Detroit. And I thought he was just giving me a shout out of the song. I'm like, good, look, Google, man, keep listening. I'm like, man, but he going in Damn trick trick. Damn said the police. He had a song. I mean, he said, he said, he called the police called on the trick trick. Holy moly, I expect the white guy that's that's so. Then you do think, he explained you. Yeah. Yeah. Then when when the verse one over, then the rest of the meeting was over, He's like, that's you right there. He said, that's my gifting you. He said, I don't publishing, I don't want nothing. He said, this is your record. You can happen. He said, I'll do the video whatever you need. Damn, damn. I was already working with this with the Homies signment wonder Boy, you know, so we had the playing. We was already in motion recording. I pulled up to the studio with that like man pulled up right now, you gotta hit this ship played the record for him and he just lost it like that. I was like, they go to bag right there. We're gonna still do it our way, but they go to bag right there. But that record was like that's that was a blessing because it took me to another side of the earth where I've never been, where they never knew, you know, who trick Trick was. And I used that to my benefits, you know, to product merchandise and marketing blah blah blah. So you know, I'm extremely appreciative of that. What he did, that ship was a gift and a curse almost part. Yeah, it was a curse because it was like a lot of funning. Ship was industry. Ship was happening and that in the scope universal and it was doing a lot of ship. It was like when you put it out through Motown universe were wonderful. Yeah right yeah. And the guy was you know, Silvere Ron and Eric Knicks was still fell out with my partner who was Windy Day and Windy Days, you know, Yeah, she gonna go go up against the machine the right way, you know. Man If Wendy said, it's funked up. It's fucked up, and it's SIVI and them still trying to push the button. So they still you know, they had their ship back and forth, and they put me on the same release date as Mary J. Blige and Jamie Fox when he was an R and B singer. And I was like, y'all just said this ship up there, so let me grab this bag and get the funk on. That's all, you know. But I was like, now you couldn't get back into universal system. You couldn't go back around the other way. You know what I'm saying. You know you gotta do this, But I I could say, shout, I still hear my everything was mane, did you feel a special collection to Nikki because she was from Queens and she was a girl, because she according to the documentary when I watched it, she actually moved to Atlanta because she wanted to be you needed her to move to Atlanta. She had to come. Said I'm not coming to New York. If you needed to help you, you gotta come here because I'm not coming to me. I kind of live in New York anymore. This is where I'm at. I can do whatever you need here. But I can't do this in New York, so it's not even one. Nikki is a girl that that's the first thing. And I fell in love with her, like I really did. Like listening to her and everything she told me, everything she went through. I like, you actually keeping it real. Findy find um book Gucci for a showdown in in Um Carolina. And he said, Dad, and everybody knew I wanted a girl. Okay, I'm just so pro female period. Anyway, I'm gonted a girl, but I just didn't want any girl. J right, yeah, And Finny said, damn, come here, come here. He said, I got the girl for you. I was like going to get your ast side and just get my damn money. Let me get out here, and he said no, I'm nah. He said, damn, just listen to this. On the way going and on the way going back to Atlanta, you know, I would put her tape in. And when I listened to her tape, I was like, I called him. I said, what she looked like, right, and he said, I'm gonna see me something. But instead, when we got to know, we had to go to be more. And when we was off and be more, Wayne never showed up, so they was begging me, could all all the stay on stage until Wayne got there. Nikki came across the day was like, Yo, that's Nikki right there. That's the girl, that's Nicki. And I was looking and um Gucci was trying to talk to her and she was going on and he's like, Yo, that's Nikki, you know, trying to get me to see he's really trying to give her ask, you know. But at that's how I might have going to give a funk because we was on stage for too long and nick we're not getting paid for this ship, you know. And I did get to see her, but when she talked to me, it's the underdog thing that gets me. When the first to come to me and then in trouble, those are the ones I like helping. I don't want you to be big already. I don't need you. I'm a builder. I liked building, and I was like, fucking with what they say can't happen. It's gonna have and my watch is happening. And I'm not gonna tech you if I can't do ship for you. You know what I'm saying. You just gotta listen. But Nikki was a different kind of female. Also, even though she was gonna, she very timid. She got a lot of me in up. Now I see that ship. She got a lot of me. She got some hard now. But she went through She went through a lot. She went through a lot of ship. She really didn't go through a lot. I'm super proud of her. But she listened. It don't matter what people say, all the rumors that people say. I'm never going into that ship because I don't want to give a day about that stuff. You know what I'm saying. But she listened, she got up. She was a different kind of female. It wasn't about no nigga. It wasn't about that because the chicken destroyed her whole career for nigga, but he didn't constroyed his for you. And I always tell him that she was up early in the morning. It wasn't about smoking, hanging out, being in love, going throught. She wanted this. This is what she wanted. She wanted this bad and she paid attention. And that's good that I told you. This show was about man, come on, we get me, go on, you take by gonna take a shot at them. That she was curt moment. She wasn't she was No, she had to be trained, She had to go through a lot of stuff. But what's your favorite moment you take? But what what? What these new artists? Which which one? Was it discovering Nikki seeing how get to that moment? Or was it? Is it com or is it when your son said he sucked his money up at your office? Yeah? Car, she got there, She got the car to the office and car broke down right there, nikkiks is that well the office? Actually, when we no longer worked with Nicki, they caught the toe truck. I never wanted to card go anywhere because that was the car she started and was really big to me. But they were so ready to get that call because of how everything you know was But her BMW fell down right there. And the craziest ship is I'm not really shouldn't say this, but you don't, Bless my heart. I never knew that how Safari was going together. Yeah, I thought Safari neither I thought her it was a gay guy that she and he was a helper. She never when we went when I was booking her out, She's like, Dad, I need two rooms. But the two rooms wasn't for him because she would get dressed in the other room, but Safari was I didn't know that they went together. I never knew it. He took my car from her and she called me to block him up, and then he called me, and that's when he broke down everything. He broke down everything that they was together for the year. I didn't know. She never that was one thing about her. She never any inkland that anything was going on with them, like the way she was after story. He was God forgive you know. I thought he was just a gay guy that was helping her and he was I hide it out. He was something. I just never knew anything but the putting his career bast for her, you know, when he told me that that they put everything into her to let her go. And then Bowleg and Luke called me and then that's what he told me about all of them, that they was a group like Nicky, Bowleg and lou really was the first person to have her. I didn't know that. And there was his son, um it was the son Toofari her. There was a group like they was the first thing she never told me about. The group she told me about like I'm but but you want to know something that's money. If you listen to all their stories, they omit like George has definitely omitted out everything, but that's what brought her end. Harmon should always be paid the to Georgia because that's how she broke through. So when I listened to Yeah, when I listen how about friends to his first French now, because I ain't trying to be funny, but Frinch didn't really naked that roll in Georgia. Um the first time I remember when I watched this stuff with them, I'm far. I need to be gone with this ship because something no, I didn't. I took a little sip of spin back in anyway, he didn't. He didn't really, he didn't really do is good because the first time and then yell about Gucci, Gucci didn't do French Walker thead. Gucci didn't like French because the first time he went the studio to do a song with him, he paid Gucci in five dollarand dollars good on the feature and he was just sitting the studio. She was going off the back door money left and he was like yeah, and then he called me and French was like yo, everybody the coin like go, Gucci's up, and I said, what we're talking about? And I called him. I said, goach, what the hell are you at like to take that got to the point of money and he's a man put his nigga. He wasn't doing nothing, and I said, you can't do no ship like that. French called. He's like, yo, Auntie, that's all the money I had. He's like, I had no more money, he said, yo, he just took my money. Just winning there. I'm like and I'm like, fun, Gucci, what you do this ship to way money? So he could God damn, I took the sister when a shop baby, so he he yes something that I'm right him at the gas station because here's like the old we guy to go back and um enough to have the ship all of them things. I just got that tricks to father. I was on and I said Walker, I said, walk them do something. I got walking them do. So Walker took him out. Fritz. You know, Frinch was drinking a lot at that time too, So Frinch kind of messed up with the girls street niggas and some stuff went down there. So he didn't really pan out as much like it's a lot. Christ didn't really panned out as much in Atlanta. He didn't. He didn't really do as well. People are taking him and I guess some of that ship was coming from everyone. He did, he did. He did the reason why chopping chopping down. Remember chopping chop down, Well, chopper chopping down got kicked. Nobody could chopper chopping down. And I liked the reccord. Where was the first ones to get the Obama look alike? I had not, so I changed the record to add a walker to the record, and then we shot, We did the video, We did everything, and then I made the call. Got it on the same day I got on MTV. That was like the fun get to shoot on MTV, right and god nor yet that's were broken the chopper chopping down. Nobody was letting Fritz in. There was not letting in. It wasn't about Atlanta doing it. It was that video that was shot that chopper chopper down. We did chopping. We changed chopper chopper down, the whole thing. I changed the whole record and that's what did it make? Some noise for that dare they coming down? Get everything out? Like they never add Georgia. They never add a lot of that stuff. And went went on. You know what happened there, but it did a lot for them, and New York hurt me. And I'll say that, like coming from New York, that should hurt me. I busted my ask to go to New York to find somebody from New York, to find people from New York to blow them back up, and then you give me your aster kiss. And then New York flipped. The whole thing flipped where these people were hated. NICKI couldn't even walk the streets of New York, but our girls want to slice up and do whatever. You know what I'm saying. Then y'all all flipped on me. These the people that the fans was going at them like crazy. And then y'all turn around and somebody put a rumor here from my mouth and glancles saying again, I can say my name, let me just say that, And that's how that ship started. That I'm just saying that, that's how I started. And those rumors started going out and people joined forces in the rumor because they don't know any better. But now, even when y'all just sat here and said about the whole corrupt thing, somebody's gonna see this and be like holy shit, it didn't go down like that. Do you understand what I'm saying? Or you even just check yourself shout give them a bans you're just camera literally and don't edit the ship out. So but you just check yourself because when you know, I'm thinking about the thing that's so good about this normy, when you look at this, you could actually see yourself and during what times was this like this? And what time was that like this? Like holy sh it, I didn't know this person really did that? That one didn't? Really? Do you need everyone is a little, but I should be about that. I actually like the little holy right, but it's gonna cheach people because there's so many people that became each one of us. There's so many people that spread rumors about each one of us. That's some sh is true. That everything ain't a line. Some things is true. But a little punk ash ship like what you know, that's the funk gotta eat you up. Like those are the sides of me that I had to learn to check myself and not unless you get under my skin, because those are the times that I was reacting. But those reactions was hurting me and the longer because I was really showing my hand of who I am. I just didn't do nothing to you at that time. But I'm grateful to Georgia because it changed a lot of me. It's other times I don't even want you to breathe in the end that I breathe, you don't deserve to breathe the same end that Okay, it was special, special, it was specially so I had to get the hell up out of that, you know, like that's just it's just something. It just when left field. It's like for us. What I didn't like with this particular show is that it showed, for me, for black women, that we was weak, that all we want to do is do each other and our men was to ship. You understand what I'm saying, Like I just didn't like how downgraded us. It got to be no good, no more like now it was no good that people that didn't have anything you're now using them. But that's the reality TV and do the same thing. I don't do it like that at all. I'm gonna come out of what you see about me is real. There's no in between, there's no fact is ship. I don't even know how to say a line that you give me. That's why I can have the movies, because you can't give me a lot of mistake. It's hard for me to fill into stuff like that. It's hard. It's difficult for me to do that kind of stuff, you know what I'm saying. But this right here, and I'm grateful even for all of them, because there's a fear of and there's a fear, not a physical fear, but a fear of respect because there's not very many people especially something. Man, I don't have a lot of respect for you because I'm gonna fun you do for real real, you know, and I know that you ain't about that life for real, for real, you know what I'm saying. I know that, and I know a lot of y'all. If I really tell the story. I had to stand this sometime and pull something up. That's how I got hit more times because he used me for the shield just stand what it says, and I was used to shill. I thought the nik was blocking me. Then I'm digging trying to find the gunny telling me under the it's under the chap and I started getting pinned and hit because I'm looking, but it ain't no gunn answer the goddamn chill. He had the ship sitting on the side of him the whole while he was scared, But if he moved, he would have got hit. But I caught the bullets. You know what I'm saying, I thought every one of them. And that's the stuff that is people in this game. I can tell you some shit about you know what I'm saying that I was in the position with them and you cried, don't look through, give me, don't give me. But then you're staying out there, you gainst them, you billy badass. But I'm a woman and you're putting me out here to fight, and I ain't had no problem with it. Like I had no problem was getting it off. Getting on the phone with my brother, his twin. You need to be on here, because I don't know how I'm gonna come out of this one. But I got a bunch of niggas laying on the bus screaming, and I know I got to get us somebody. Yet, you know what I'm saying, I gotta kick my own bus door over the coming out, Like what's what we're doing here? You know? But my security that I had was four knocks. That's the one that you know, I had a continue trick. Don't play nothing, he said, arsticles on you. And when PO pull over, licensed up. They were good except when he got them city and they took them, got their sheriff that I took his gun. I took this guy trying to let your boy that bought Sipson gotdamn track. I went to some ship with that boch censor. Okay, yeah, they took they got that. The police came to dit. Let me just ask something. Do you will quickly? It's a famous incident. It's a couple of famous incidents particular. But they said they locked the gates, locked the gates. They locked the gates. They said that Ross is trying to perform, but the gates were locked ship. I didn't have control of the game. I think the security locked the gate. Exactly touched the gate. What does that happen? Understood in front of the gate and told the driver of the vehicle turn around and take him back to his hotel. And then when they told the police, sir, you gotta give him out the way. The police came and said you gotta move and I said, no, I don't. I got a hunting me and out here, sixty of them armed, half of them licensed. If you don't tell that vehicle to turn around and go before it get through me, I'm put c and in on that corner for six days. Now. You're gonna get asked later as a sergeant what happened. And I'm gonna tell my side of the story too, And it's gonna be that I gave you an option, sergeant, to make this all go away and start. I've turned around and said, y'all get this vehicle the funk out of here, and we went home. That was it. I don't have no further questions. We had a club lock with Guccio on the Boss. It was happy Wait Wait, Gouci game. We had a club. It was only it was only my brother, my older brother, Yo, my brother, my twin brother was there that night. Ball Yeah, no, Joe, Joe work this, We don't yo. He told me the trick Brother, like Goose is performing. Stop the whole ship, Yo. Everything on stage was with tricking them. So you're gonna lose. You're gonna lose. So my brother Pete didn't like, but he gained contact with trick Brother. You know what I'm saying. He talked it out and goose you got got out of here, all his ship on and all that. That's what it was that I remember because but that's another time, because let's make the only tipics, you know, but a couple of things to try and you know that ship. But it was just a little story about the stage. He gave me the stage, you know, a little every way he beami ship. It was a controversy strict that that's me. Oh yeah man, this ship man, that's is so over good. What was that happened? Just all that was timex together. You can't bring together still together bread like the holis gotta say the hopes you feed your guess you gotta have a bad I got it, I can't, I gotta do, I gotta do it. Was just gonna get do you know that that would be a good shot shop because got some of these things like hi, y'all just talked about that whole check check in to check it. I'm going yeah, now, no, nory, that would be a good show. Like the misconceptions that people have about the stuff because some of those beats from back then you're still lingering now and people are still holding on to some of that ship that didn't even happen like ner. Yeah, no, you got a couple of peace Sonory. I've said that I kept stealing. I said, I know this, nigga, I know that how on this sweety two or three dollars that's doing this stuff that they're not paying attention. But what they have to understand pay attention. Look at Bill Cosby, Look at our Kelly. Look at all these people. Once they made their money, when they didn't need you no more, they found something to come in and get you and make you have nothing. Look at all of these big artists, all these big people, when they finished with you, they finished with you. Look at the bullshit they're doing with this tight into your now when y'all bringing this ship up for now irritates me every time they do it, and the people iver take me. Every time you go after people and you start doing this ship that that's how we start destroying each other. That's why we're so fucked up, because we just rage and they'll keep winning for that. If idy keep winning your slavery ship, that ship kills me. It makes my ass on a couple corfin need everybody together, We need one conversation. But trick trick, you. So you're saying, what happened when your tricks actually had a problem. It is I mean, it's documented history because him and Trick actually had a problem. It was it wasn't me and him, We didn't have a problem, but it was some some of his associates. They tried, they tried to get down on the nigger. When I was out here on some promo ship for my album at the time, it was called Revelations. This was like and we working the album and uh, passing out flyers and ship and it was at his after party. But it was just what was popular the world was they said, your name is Trick changing or something like that. I told you on the conversation that dude was happening with my homies, that dude that was happening with my homies about and he had my flyer in his hand and he was like, who the fund is this nigger? And I'm like, that's me, because what's happening. And he's like, no, you gotta change your name. You're trying to come up off the homie name basically, And I'm like what, I'm like, my nigga, my name Trick, Trick. I ain't here of trick Daddy until after I think I've been trick tricked for thoughts and years. This is a stupid conversation I'm having with this man, you know. And so I get back to the to the cars where my big brother Peanut is at my other big brother Peanut from B and B is that And he hadn't the car with that, and he won't pass me that motherfucker come not ease. Niggas will starts showing me they they blinkers and ship. I'm like, damn because the sticker he just showed his head, you know what I mean. Yeah, So they're like, you about to follow us to the after party, and my man gonna follow the other car and make sure you don't go nowhere. What the funk kind of ship is that? Homie? Now, he didn't call Trick Daddy on the phone, and we had a conversation, me and trick Dad. He had a conversation on my man phone. I told gave the phone back saying he said, give me his number. He gave me the man number. But then you know the way that panned out with them trying to, you know, get us to go to the after party, and the signals that they were throwing. I was like, dude, that was some bullshit, and everybody agreed. Everybody agreed that was some bullshit. They was gonna try to get down. Something happened where they couldn't move, and we kind of just went on our weight, like just pull off, you know, and me being put in a situation where I felt that uncomfortable, I'm not gonna rest till I get who responsible for making me feel that. As you paid for to come out there, I helped it was already happening, and then it was gonna get canceled, so I helped get some more. Ya was good for that, y'all was good for everyone was Look, what you're not gonna do is wind in my city. But I don't give off who you talk to that I promised to God. If I won't, you your ass is man. I got a thousand motherfucker's on the day you arrive, I'm telling not to get you. Right now, y'all's coming out. You know what I'm coming out, So I'm put him back there, even your man, because my big homies wasn't nothing to funk with, and I was the guy. I'm the luci. I started out the cop roast tiny on the bottom show. So I had to put minds in. I ain't just started at the fucking top. Let's started at the start of the top. Get that up to thank you know, just because they feel something wait of mean trying about themselves that they have to belittle my fucking power. They try to go against the rules. I said ahead for the benefit of my people, those that I leave, those that I protect. That was that I provide folks, you know, even if it's just you know, somebody, even if somebody I don't know. But at this time, we have a situation between me, something that's got to do with me, altercation that started between my homies and his homies and Ship. It's like they're coming. And when I got worried that they was coming and then it was gonna get castled, I was like, but why are you gonna castle? And they're like, we need some more money right here. Get that whole goddamn trained here because the people I'm looking for, it's winning and Ship they came, Yeah, you're never gonna win in my house. Like I don't win in another motherfucker's house. I wouldn't expect to it. Understand me, I respect that, But that's the whole thing. Respect it's number one, and start with respect. Respect things. I respect my motherfuck her self. So every motherfucking body I come in contact with gonna respect me because I respect myself. And guess what what I respect of myself, I expect of you because I'm gonna give you the same fucking respect I give myself. I don't want no problem with no motherfucking man. Let me tell you something. Ain't no real nigga never got into it with no real nigga because so much you need hang. Yeah, it's right, because it's in the middle. It was a thing in the middle, niggas. I gotta communicate with this man, and I got to hope on the line of communications so we can fix this. Don't know what brother saying, but let me ask you something as as as this is something that we learned from New York. We didn't understand bloods and crips, right, We totally was was with Gucci robes and all this other thing. We didn't know what that Jerry Carroll was or whatever. But then it came a point where it was so many crips that it was crypt on crypt violence more than we hurried crypt on blood violence, and I believe that's the second generation crips that it started because Raymond Washington and then from my understanding, uh, they was like almost positive halfway what the idea was supposed to be a positive idea, the idea that we created the nineteen seventy nine. But he died the same year the Crypts split up. Oh yeah, he died at semi nine. The seat was broken and semi nine, so it was Mark's hay said the sea was broke, was broken, so the sea was created. A cr Cripts came in nineteen sixty nine. Wow, ten years later they raising the Roll the sixty started beefing the gangs in the Rolling the sixties that was us and the atre gangsters that came earlier. You didn't even look at me. Well yeah, I mean I don't really know him, but I don't have you know what I mean, when it was on, it was on with me. But have you see nikas who moving They got a problem. That's because they didn't do what they're supposed to do, but they got something, you know what I mean. Like with me, it was like, hey, when I did that, I was good at what I did and how how But what I'm saying is so Crippin came in sixty nine, that's when he created crips, and then it kind of just took off. And then in seventy nine, when we was young, it's getting it's getting more to the west coast, to me, to the west side of l A. And then now you start getting numbers because there was crips first, and there wasn't numbers didn't actually started getting more games and go further. For now do start playming like eight trade, rolling sixty one or seven nine or crypts And it just started moving like that. So we started before day tra a gamest at seventy nine that calls all the crips just really started fighting each other. And then you had to get to split in a neighborhood card or he was a gamester. So it was like so l A splitting. It's the story that hasn't never been told. So either if you wouldn't neighborhood, that meant that we didn't do We are all all even numbers. I mean, we don't do nothing in trades, we don't do one. So if you're seven one, we feel like he was a gamester. If he was eight trade. He was a gamester if you was any of them numbers. So if you can't, he was like you. He was on sixty thirty queens. You can't be like you the enemy, you know what said, So we went by that bottom number and so yeah, so so it was like the rolling twenties that like Snoopers a rolling twenty. We roll the six cs rolling forties, rolling and then all into the Hunters and so but if you took on another set, you might not even really you might have even realize that. So as we started, well it was game banging. So look, in my mind is four levels of game banging, I mean crippin. So it's the game banger, the nigga who's banging over every day, what sets you from nik where you're from, the game ready to get you? Then young Kniggs that lasts about five years. Then it's the the game the gang. You know, like he's gaming but he ain't really in any frond the hood, but he ain't banging on more, but he's still representing hood. He owned the block, he's getting his money on the block, and he know one of two dudes, her mother says from jail. Then the next level is the nigga who just he not in the hood like that. Numbo got a family do what he's doing, but he's gonna pull up and he's still rock him but he ain't. He got a bunch of niggas he owned another life. Then that's me. That's the nig who's totally one out the ship. I got a bunch of linking, but I can go influence the hood. I can't go, you know what I'm saying, and do the things. And so they look at us. That's me as Mac Big d help bone all us things still like this is our babies, Like nigga, we're gonna tell you how the block gonna go because we ain't never ship it on the block. We ain't got no spoils on the block, you know what I mean, Like nigga still are block. You can't even those that just came in the block two years to tell us what the funk to do? I know, because I still got this hammered the New York, right. Yeah, that's that's the reason why we always and that's the reason why we say don't check. And we had that New York had sweuck New York for real, This is the real New Yorker got to check it in though, because I hear dude said it all the time, like like dudes come from other states and they want to represent their city. Like if you come from Florida, you come from here. But you know if you got that's three different hats. That's the forties, that's the financiest, the Hispanic game, and then I think who else were the hat which had so which exactly Florida anything with the then you were at you for this it's a crip hat. It's a scripts at. Oh yeah, your hand off see that just don't know. So you put up in our city if you got a certain hat on the wrong area while I was on, you can get your cast splay if you pull up with that as had. It's three games where the ass had the dude a cute popping in where the ass had uh supposed to kids cart south Side the rolling sixties schoolyards, but we made it really popular. So it's really really popular with us because it's the hap of sixties and the south Side and then the socks hat and all them. Every had needs something there like so you didn't have a with you don't have a crew with fireing hats. You could be in the clubs and they're gonna walk up right with and I knew the funk. That mean, what the hell what you're saying? Like that hat? Right? Did that Casey had? That's the kids and Chris it's been that got you want enough something? Here we go again. It's Chicago that used to do lists. Certain would you like when you teach it? Because these kids don't know they do all of this stuff and they don't know. And when they hit these cities when they had they don't understand why, because you don't know you want to farming land. This is not where you live. I always tell the artists that don't think because you're poppington and this ship going on, that you popping in this city too. Yeah. But the gangs in New York crypton bloods in New York ever thought that, oh ship, did you ever think that they will come there? Like? Did you ever think that they migrated out there? Yeah? And the seriously because migrating when we had cute but I we migrated wegraded there in the early night. But these kids don't understand. They don't understand that. They still don't understand. That's why this stuff is so important, and people can't turn their back on a lot of stuff. And these kids are lost, and that's why so much ship is going on, because they don't know the culture for real. They just saying hip hop? What is hip hop? You know what I'm saying? What is hip hip hop? Is just not this music. It's a colture, you know what. It's crazy. When I was in the road and and Jay said to me, I m J. He said the crips. He said, blood say crips in the field? He said, yo, sixties if New York. And I said, Jay, what what that means? Like j was telling me and the dude my fact, we want to see pictures and all that. And the ride was going on rid you but they're going crazy and the riot. You know what I'm saying, what did Jerry Caroline? Yeah, it was Jery car right aways. You well, he's going crazy. And we wore for the hallways. I'm telling you, we Hurricane and Jay. It's me Hurricane and Jay. We're walking through the hallways of the arena. We didn't care about none of that ship. You do rule upon us and said here the tattoo on his arm, and he said, rollers six, He said, Roller sixy fun with me. I represent New York and I'm doing I'm looking at Jay, don't mind you. I'm from New York. But he notice he's he's just jause. After a while, I started feeling good every time they could be like they can see me, like from New York, Like yeah, because they can tell about a game bangger the street, like when I was going on there, but like I've always see sixty things. They were like from New York, right, yea, you go, i'd't know i' with New York when he said that, my mind was quaiting. No, really Red, we didn't like l Yeah, why I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Tell me you don't red that Nigga was so much redlyn't like, no, that Nigga was so much red. They were not him. We didn't have no reason to dis like him. He just wore so much read you know who he loved though, like especially us Cool mo D because he wore black. He wanted that soon the wild, Wild West. He wanted that goes uptown down all over real tall the West Coast. Really bought that gun play, all right. That's why I said it was different and when I said that, Hell, I mean it was a Jay. When I got to Jay, I'm like, yo, He's like yo, Chris serious, serious, And I didn't know he's a serious print team. So this is what I'm trying to say. This this this is a question of both of y'all. So like, basically, more I started to come out to l A, the more I started to notice that everybody's in the game, right, everybody. Everybody's one of the moorous. One of the most secretive that no one knew anything about was the sixties. Like I don't went to watts of them, went to all of these, but the sixties was just like secretive, Like it's like you only know what sixties do if you're in the sixth the Special Forces. Like yeah, And then Nipsey Hustle comes out, Right, we had corrupt shot the black shot about Big Grass. I ain't no big growls and Big You was the same nigger we didn't, But the Nipsey comes out and sometimes I say, we want to murder you that guy. Sometimes you know, those are my brothers. But I've wondered sometimes me being famous and they're being my brothers that I hurt or add on Nip Nip because because you gotta remember at that time, the only person was hit in the l A at that time, even this game, and then La is a blue city. In fact, it's not a rich it's a blue city. It's always been more crypt in l A than than anywhere like l A come to us all the way through. But the thing when Nick was Nick, what made y'all what you've seen when Neiver you didn't realize that is nipp is the only one that came out that didn't claim a part of the city. Snoop was Long Beach, Training was Compton, um Jay Rocks, Watts. There was all claiming, like different parts of hell we claimed. I'm said the hood on it wasn't nothing else, and I was Chrisshaw. I'm Crisshaw. Like when you see the Chrisshaw, that's really me. Nipsey is Slawson. Boys like Nipsey recollated with Slawson. He got Slawson on his back. Everything about Nipsey was all slaws I went to Crentshaw. Nfcy never went to Clint Shaw. So when we came out, I had to find something as a manager to make your artists connect. So we needed something that would make him connect to the hood, because all this music was all about the hood. If he all of his early music was really about banking, it was um but they got the name shoot the block up running to shoot him as all of that. And then in the beginning of this ship, I had to go and look at all this music, look at all the videos, and make sure he wasn't this and nobody. If you remember all these early videos, his first videos, I directed them. I directed them, and I've got all I'm in all those credits because I had with my job me as somebody trying to push something out would connect to the city that everybody will respect. And I respected all these dudes, bloods, crips, messages and everybody else because I just did thirteen years of these dudes. So I wasn't gonna do thirteen years and didn't come home and change up. You know what I'm saying, Like, I just walk with you niggas, and they said you united the y'all. Yeah, that's what I did. I sitting no real talk, real talk. I did ship that mother I did sit in prison had never been done before. I had a big ass June tooth day. But we had all the blacks from every set, big ass eat. I talked classes in that motherfucker man. I talked classes, really, I talked psychology class. I talked class and the mother would really sucked me up because I are really studying dudes and really seeing like a lot of mega is just game banging. And since jail been molested, been been, I don't said it, but be molested and hurt and feel like likes gamemaking defense mechanism in a lot of sorts on ship. Did it happened to motherfucker's fool when they was closer and they're like, ain't what happened? No more? Now I'm a man. I got a gun off for the fight against this. So I used to teach classes on the yard, you know what I mean show when I came home, not for the i just did thirty teen years with these niggas. I'm not gonna good moment add to game banging. So when I went to go get my artists, have to being with shigging them, studying all them and and and and and getting me a little bad. It's time to go do me. So I found I found that and I'm like, damn. So they didn't want to suck with me, and they didn't want to with big you, big you, the thugs with sugar. You know, all this ship my name is getting their builders before I do. So then I went and got Steve little bit. I said, I gotta white jew as he was David, my wife's, my wife's niece. Steve was. And that's how I know somethe Bill and I bring Steve on as my face card and then I shoot Stephen there and we go to all the different lagels. Man we went to jama ain't gonna get mad, Jamaine. We didn't come to you, but you ain't wouldn't want to turn us down. He said, yeah, documentary tom My school was give me tom My sws. Gave us um a month, booked is out a month to record, should gave us, gave me some recording time for there, you know what I mean? And all these dudes was, yeah, you gotta remember I just I just left. I was just sure was still Hume and she was like he was helping me, you know a month, that's my guy. He was like, you want to you want to sign him? Like, gave me recording time for NI, gave me beach gave the producers. Yeah, did that early autum and so so then me and Morty Maul Jamal Jamal Rassi started the company called Blue Magic Music Group. We signed Poolbert, we signed fifteen hundreds. We did Uh, we did uh album. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta remember see this stuff that people don't know. I was doing it at the time, Harrio and Jack Ahead fifteen hunter. Oh so I don't really know, like people don't know. I gave fifty first deal left, you know what I mean, the first deal they ever had. They came from me. I did game shoe. Did you know what I'm saying, the stand that I was doing. You can that book. So but but but what I'm saying, So when this soon and when we came with him, it was a major fight. Steve got us through the door. I had to go get a white doell as you to get us to the I heard you saying the documentary that they didn't come get you when the winn a Bagel. Yeah, So we was on tour and my partner, who win a Bagel was who let us get it was on the run twelve years. His girl name, his girl his white name was Stacy. My wife name was Stacy. So when I registered and registered the mobile home and my wife name, they thought it was him. His wife. Fans hit us everywhere we go. We think that just dormal hip hop ship. We hit Portland, they hit us. We're going going up through Oregon that we get all the paperwork. They took the motherfucking uh radiator cap on, took him over apart, stuck us in our kimber. We were for three days. They took them motherfucking scanning from the route or to the to to find what they wanted on it, put it back together, gave it to us. I flew back on. We're not flying home. We get hit. I get hit home. They had twenty more people. They think they got him anyone. Making long story short. He ended up turning them self in and take the case off all of us. He gets life right for for the drugs. When that ship happened, my team is acting weird. So I'm looking at Steve, I'm looking at get a pegwork and Sony so they can see that we you know, re leasing all this ship. They're acting weird. So you know me, I'm still kind of like, you know, I'm hoiding, you know, hiding the heavy. But you know, I'm like, I can't funk with yak. So you never seen me on the tour. No more a problem, no, no problem, never happened. We didn't have a problem when nobody making no money. It was no money. We never had a problem. I just left. Then when I decided my son come home from college. He want to do music, So I'm I don't care to be When we get the equipment, we're gonna put us somewhere where we can all get to it. That's when they gotta set. He made the song. I don't rest. They never came up. It did come up, It did come out. I don't really would never pushed as a song, but it came out. And I mean, I don't wrap. And this is my label with my nigga. You know what I'm saying. This is my lad, this is my piece of rock. I fought for this nigga and gave this up. Not tell me every single day, you know what I'm saying. Like but but it goes what we was talking about the documentary Like Her, Like Him, Like you got a bunch of young niggers who only heard a big youth and then heard of that room or two that yeah, the problem never had a problem, and that problem on the documentary they actually conspiracy theorist that yeah, big you had something to do with that or that's why the first question I asked you was about the other ship, someone who knocked that out early, but that I was circling back. So and then and so he made of this song. We get into the altercation, We go to jail when his brother get out. That two days later, we meet at the at the African restaurant because you know, they Africa, because they'll keep saying that there was an actually fight there was. I mean, well, you know, come on, man, come on, you know it'll take five or six in my little nephew that you deal with me, you know, you know. And then the doctor they say that I'm pretty good. I'm fifty four and I still you know, demonstrate. But it's but anyway I found my kids, just just the facts, you know. But we it's over that night, it's over two days night. It don't go nothing. Can't nobody really see me in my city, in my town, because I'm gonna go myself if it comes to that. I don't need no need to do nothing for me. So we ain't got no beef period. We never stopped talking. We didn't go two days and nothing. We didn't have nothing nothing. You know. That's what I'm saying all the way up until he signed the deal with Atlantic Records. Let's go where the fund is it? Be Fan, he flied me to New York. I'm in the fucking video. I'm in his video? What is it? Um? And I ain't a rap? Niggas the first song gonna Victory Lap. I am the nigga who promote Victory Lap on my Instagram, through the Facebook. All these weirdos who told me who became newcy Fingers. They want promoting this ship. I don't want promoting that. I whenn't did five days in the studio recording for the least tape that was gonna come out after that. You're gonna hear me though, So where are these rumors coming from? It's just niggas using his name and his death to make some money and then the rest of the ignorant people falling off of that. You know what I mean? How you go have that and you got a man in jail but still in Dennis. Oh. It's a conspiracy where the funding the conspiracy. They clearly had a conversation. They clearly was beefing. They clearly grew up together. And it's a nigga I've never seen before. I never met. No, I ain't on that city. You gotta remember, mom, we we we At any given time, we may have fifteen homies, fifteen hunting homies throughout this on the streets, maybe be five or six thousand. But if you got fifteen, I don't know all these young niggers you got. I'm fifty four. I don't know what niggas I get my squad, you know what I mean. I ain't know. I don't know these users, Like I don't know all the unsers in New York. I don't know all in Alta. But I still get their ship though, you know what I'm saying. I have never met the kid, never met him. But you know what, you put the ship that big you table. Whyce you gonna put at the table the motherfucker's who knew him. Put it at the motherfucker table where the people who ran with him, and put it at the table of the mubbles who got's bad now put it at the table around mubbles trying to shift the sheet to somewhere else house, put it in my table. Ain't got no fact I had not in the game. He get my nigger. He came and getting me and he like, I asked myself, man, less know who's gonna do? Man, I don't want to be back in the more bullshit we said, many of you're gonna be you U. You don't do what you wanna do. We don't gonna take over. And I'm all right cool. My nigga came and got meat. You see what I'm saying? And who gating this? Only award living? How you beefing? Cauled him. I was doing a war show, nip from the eye of you. I'm the one getting man. But they gotta move you. That got You have to understand, like that's the whole thing about all of this. They have to move you out the way. Even with all of them, you're never gonna hear nothing about me. These was all stars before I touched them. If you let them tell it, they're not telling the story of being homeless and not have the ship. And to close with you, with you, I'm sorry to cut you off, but with you, you said, the only artist that that bothered you was French like after things things, But French ain't really the only person like honestly all of them in a way, because I did a lot. You understand what I'm saying. I I messed up a lot of relationships protecting them because I stood by them. And let's be clear, I don't regret it, because if I'm with you on with you, you feel what I'm saying. It's sometimes they go like that. But I protected children. Protecting you meant the short that you was good. Then you turned on me. And here's the thing, here's my story. Okay, I took puppies and turned them into vicious animals. They turned around and left me and became leashed by someone else. Okay, that's what I said. But they're the same people that I'm beating with all the people again, the same people that I was that I went in so I don't hear. The same people that I'm getting in a beet with are the people that you went up underneath. You understand what I'm saying. Then on top of that, for them, I'm protecting you. Then on top of that, you checked around and you went into an agreement with stop and I saw you in an agreement. You didn't say anything, but you said a lot when you didn't say nothing. Hold on, hold on right there, when all of that's how I feel, all these lay masks neily seemed saying it so function by not saying nothing, I feel like you was you was you? You was really sad. I'm saying something a whole lot of them, And I'm understand his family could have came out said, ain't no goddamn nothing with this ship. So I and I got any of the actually day was my relationship with the family? Fuck that I don't have one. I don't want one, because they could have came out and said what happened and shed a lot of ship down, but then let my family go through the bullshit dealer with all this ship. My kids at school, yeah, my daughter, my son a college broke my son is that college play ball? His coaches? Are they calling me like me, se daddy? You know what I'm saying, Like you know, it doesn't only trickle like the thing that was so like even with my son, like my son that committed suicide. One of the things that he did not he could stand his industry. He watched the destroy his family. He watches destroy the friends. They lost so many people. But the biggest thing is that he used to always tell me he couldn't be here not being able to see to protect me. Watching the things that people say what they did. He know what I did. Every one of them know what I did for them. Every one of them know what I went up against for them. They all know that. And that's the part that you ain't. Never have to say nothing because I don't use your name to move forward. You don't need to drink. Don't god them more, drink shot out. You gotta know and now don't gotta bring you back to the ship. Don't showing out family traits. Okay, So I'm just saying I'm sorry, but I'm just saying that that is a triple to it's a trickle effector it's a trickle effect to a lot of people. There are other people that's affected by the things that you've done. So when they sit there, like even for my kids, like a walker, this ship can't mean anything him. He grew up in this ship. So when he loved you, he loved you because he's taught that loyalty is everything. If I funk with you, I fuck with you like Chuck you like Prince to the end, and even every one of them you don't see no interviews with me, putting their business out in the street. You understand what I'm saying. When all the ship was going down, called me for a whole bunch of stuff. I could write a whole freaking book, best number one s and have you when you can't walk the streets period, I could put that out there, all of them keeping it b who is that a lot of people met? Just them for even people that they run with gonna be like, oh my god, they're gonna wake up to some Yeah, the ship that you're doing, now what you feel to realize them entourages and the people that's around me, Nigga, I've tell your business. It's people that's coming back to me, just telling me stuff that they think I want to hear it. It's like, why are you telling me that? Well, girl, we're cool. We can't be cool because you're cool with them. You're hanging out with them, you're right there with them, You're telling all their fucking business. So who's to say you ain't gonna tell me. I don't trust you. See, I can't teach you to know how you run your malcome you say you funk with me, They're funk with me. But if you start speeling some ill ship about me, nigga, I know you don't care nothing about me, and I'm gonna pay attention to you. I'm definitely paying attention to you, and I'm not gonna give you that opportunity to come get me because I'm already watching you to get you all ready. But this is the problem. We gotta stay solid and stay to the coach while these other lanes don't get to stay sat, you know. And that's the difference between what like I said, when I when when you, when I chose the people when we're choosing. I got it with the mothers who can telling the story. And me and her was talking today on the way up here, and we got such the same I mean so ship that she said to me, I had a problem with my own sons. You know what I'm saying, because these niggs grow up in my neighborhood. They believed it too. And you know, kids only know what they're here and then they're only gonna go by what their problem was. And my daddy ain't the best mother sucking the world, you know, what I'm saying, because who what who daddy is until you become a daddy. You know what I'm saying. When you becoming daddy and you gotta deal with the baby mama and the baby mama and the kids know that marama, then you're gonna be like my post was the best mother in the world. Butter tookt to that me and be beat. You know what I'm saying, that's hurting thing. That's crazy when other people come in there and do something and marry. I'm gonna keeping a hundred and put it back out here. I taught anybody I didn't know every fucking thing I know. I'd be a mother. Okay. I'm a nurturer, that's one thing I know. And I know how to take care of my nigga. I know how to do that. You understand what I'm saying. I know how to wear multiple hats. I know how to do ship other than throw my legs in the air. I could cook, I could clean, I could bring the money up in there. I could take care of you. I cook my money, okay, to cook broke me up in the family. Gay, I cook. So I know how to do one of these things because even though when I was a kid and doing all the thing, my grandmother made me dubrand getting there. I had to go in that kitchen and I had too, And she used to tell me, it's gonna come a time that you're gonna have to do more to throw your legs up in the air. You're gonna have to keep him home. You're gonna have to learn how to keep this bed clean. You're gonna have to know how to fill the stomach up. The nigs is coming home. I don't care who you get for two seconds. I can't miss without a measure. You understand what I'm saying. And I don't go digging. I don't do none of that ship. But I know you got home. That's that's real ship. Talking about that on the pockets, I did any pockets. I ain't took the telephones. I ain't gonna through all that ship. Just make sure when I go outside, they lefting with me and not at me, because then we're gonna have a problem. They becomes something totally different, you understand, But these are things that I know. When you come into my household and you start doing all this function, that's what this game became. I ain't never told nobody else that goddamn manager. They made me a manager. These people came to me because they needed help. They was in trouble in the streets. They couldn't get their shipped through. I made that happen, period, and you now everybody else would to run around and getting the credit for what I did if I want coverage, okay, don't want to gain credit y'all claiming all of this ship that y'all did. It's more than those artists, this producers. There's the sound of this game period track. I am the fucking track queen. Period. They can say what everything and that ship that's s claimed ship? You're gonna give me mind see already took minds. I don't need the validation from you. Why they're running around here and needing to talking be all on bridget all that. I don't need none of this ship my action speak. Let me tell you period when I when I was, I was able to do this right now, So I gotta do research on everybody. Can we got the tank when we put the doctor together into a t I don't know where to put her is in New York, Atlanta, Every nigga tr tr I don't know how she t I feel about it. You gotta do her the one. I respect that being like even anything that was going on, like real recognized real, and the street codes are the street cold and I'm governed by that. I'm gonna keeping a hundred. I am concrete because that's what me and and I'm a hunter with that. And I'm telling me it's like, I think, I respect what you're doing, but you just know beside them one don't make me cheers because you won't win. And that's just real ship. That's how I am about with you. I'm with you. We're gonna be chucky. We can pre press to the end. I'm a ride, I'm a doctor. My bird is my bard. I will doctor my bird. And that's just real ship. You gotta go out here, but let the show real quick, right. So you said you had a chance for f X came to you and they said, no, no, we how this show got? How this show got? Jimmy Chris came to me. He's a partner of mine. He's he's a blood, he's a part of Out of Count. Came to me to do the show. He wanted to do it with Sugar Whack and come more people. They add a little situations. He ended up, and because he had done something for me a while ago, I did it and I said, but I gotta go this way, you know what I mean. And then we gotta go get the right people. And we started moving over the story four years ago. Wow, four years ago turned down about forty different entities. Yes, so we shot the pilot. I got t I and weirds again on it. Nobody that came later that didn't come letter too. We started moving nobody understand that. Then um two years ago, years ago, something that happened I can't remember. We've made them start seeing my name and industry not when the nip didn't die and and and then that's how like Box, another European company came to the table. We had a couple of meetings that was like, okay, we understand what big you is, but who else can you bring it to the table. So then I'm like, on the person out hand I know off hand is well I got a trick, trick, Okay, we're gonna reach oh, I got haste Jack. Then like we gotta get a female on and I'm like, let's go get what's your name to do the show with you, Mona. Let's go get Mona Scott. Then they're like nah, and then the whole world starts saying never happening. Let's name is bid me the Supreme Team. Go get the Supreme Team, because that's me. I need to have big. I need to have me on the on the East Oats because it won't look right if it looks like then it looks like big you I need. I need the Supreme Team. So when I heard the Supreme Team, I don't know bay brothers and sisters. I have no clue, but I just want. I wanted to me ben me, and they tell me you already know Benny. You don't know many throughout the industry. And now my home is like hen you probably don't Recognid because he ain't big here a little dude, And I'm just like, damn, I know him, Like, but I don't want to re meet you because I already got a story. Now. So now I got her story, and then I already know his stories my brother, so her story just it's like amazing, But now I'm scared is she gonna tell it? So now we're like, damn, can I go? I go sit down with Jay Prince. I sit down with a couple of different homies. I said, down, I'm selling a lot of people, had a lot of gonna j another people. We're gonna when we come back, we're gonna do Jake. But Jay was doing a documentary already, like Haystan Hayston. Jack was already doing this documentary. So I had to talk, Hey, Jackie, man, I need for this is Jack And then Jake, I got you, bro, but I'm only gonna be able to give you so much. And what he was only able to give us would not fit in the story on how we wanted to tell because he was gonna talk about how me and him first but when I first went to prison, was talking about doing the Quan and then bringing corrupt my moan and all that stuff and under him and dealing with him. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, And so that's the story's gonna come out. And then would ask mc and OLM. So we ended up telling this story and it's just like it was like saying, we started shooting it. It took us two years to get to this point, and she became like her story to me affecting my wife, my daughter. You know when you're telling the story and you're letting your kids see it. And my daughter's like, I just wanted me dead. She said, part of your stories are regularly but hers is and it but but but it was my daughter who I felt like, damn, she get to see somebody who ain't taking their clubs clothes off. I ain't never watched um love hip hop, that's what it's called the show. I've never watched love. He watched every episode. Don't worry about it. I don't watch another because I leave pep hope. But my daughter bronic my daughter and I let my my home girl see that was like dad at me dead dead dead dead dead, And I was like, man, we gotta get more out of her. But it was ship at first. I still still like doing anymore right now, I'm like, I wasn't looking out to be honest to herod all the ship. I was like, that's the most story, Like that's how much hearings around torutic a baby because it was doing like we was going, they was going, her pop was going. But but and then like I see, we told the story, and we wanted to tell the story of the history of hip hop and the history of how it got to where we are. And the unique thing is because of where we are right now, we'll never have these stories because the camera ain't gonna let it, the one on the street corner, the phone ain't gonna let it, the one is telling everything and it's just not we're not These stories will become what the Mafia stories were because d down on TV THEYD me down. So glad that y'all telling y'all stories, because guess what will happen if y'all didn't tell your stories. Someone else will tell your story. But people have to tell that's to tell that. At first, I gave them feeble. I was like, I'm not doing this it. I think I'm not going back and forth because they want to say what they want to say to you. And with rashity and dough like I really do, even though firing him every day, but I'm like we we talk like bashiti Obi let not tell you. Obi was the thrown on my side. She made my ass on up to Corpine like tons of selling at that, like just like like strong, yeah, because you know I shoul strong as health. But Obe would not leave me alone, like I get my phone, get stuff. Because I was like thinking this will be like every other show. I don't take pictures and my time didn't take pictures. I'm not gonna tell him myself. I was with turning people, and I can't implement people that I was with to this day. There's still things that I can't talk about. I won't talk about, but I'll talk about me because I want you to now know me as much as I can talk about you. I got a better story me for you. Me and I said, Walker said, Ma, you need to tell you need to stop sitting back. Mar You don't say nothing. You don't never say enohing, you ain't got en. I'm gonna say that some people it's it's kind of not good. Some ship won't come out right. You know. What I'm saying is like nothing. I might be like like some things just won't come out right, and it it's like this. I'm telling you all. It don't matter to me what anybody say. This was therapy for me. I needed this. I had so much anger inside of me. I have so much blocking, so much depression. When you said even like about Nikki, I associated losing her with death, like literally like death. That ship hurt me so bad. I told every one of them. Even if you don't want to be with me, or if it comes that time that we're not together, go, I'm caking for about this business. I don't make money if I rolled up and down street with a shopper card, but some guy that collect bothers the kids, I'm gonna make some money. You ain't nothing to stop me from getting that. You understand what I'm saying. But I can't replace you as an individual. So when you love and you put that, let's put that much into a person. You put that much in. I'm cried with them. We went through a lot of ships. I have nothing and they left me with nothing. And that's just real ship they owed me. I got nothing out of nothing. But you want to know something, Let's be real. I'm not gonna blame that on that, because if you don't ask nothing, you ain't gonna get nothing. I can't expect you to give me something I've never asked for. I said I'd help you. I just say you have to give me this. I said I would help you, So that's what I put that in. That's why I ain't really mad about that. Franks is another thing I told him I was gonna get him. You're a different my nigga, because I knew you was gonna across me. I knew that, but other people the milliyears, nobody ever told me got you across me in a million years, nobody ever told me. Even though everybody said he saw he is. I was just with him longest he stayed there, the longest. I would have never did that. I knew that. And Juice, I did a disservice to him. And I'll say that I neglected o j. I neglected o Ja because goocher stayed. There's so much sip goo you had to be wrapped around his finger. Like I stayed. I stayed doing stuff. But also that was a part of me that I loved. That was the nurtured part of me, taking care of my babies, all of them. On my babies. Then it's still my babies. You understand what I'm saying. It's like no matter what, and it is what it is. I don't care about all of us and that stuff. You could always make money, but you can't replace people. And that for me mean something. Even when I was in the street, they had to do something to somebody. I still still doing. Get just clean the blood, get the ship up off of them, try to do something. You still try to nurtures. Didn't give them love, you know, you still trying to. That's just who I am, you know, and I love hard. So when you cross me, it's something different. It's just that they've never been in produced the hot and that's the blessing, that's the wrapping up, right. So let's just make sure anybody say something. Say so, let's start with you trip, Say what what's the next? Besides the fact that I'm telling people who have asked this ship, what is it called? Hip hop? Good? That name? So many other names I'm told I'm kind of stuff about. It's hip hop on cover and I'm I'm not having a ball doing all the press with it. Uh. I have a movie I wrote, directed, produced, called The Last twenty four. So I'm my manager there because I put you in the movie. I put you in the movie. I plugged you in that movie, the Detroit movie Let's keep it red. That movie I called you direct me be doing and I needed you to form on the road in New York. That's what happened. Little bit of room tasting, this is what happened. I'm doing the movie in Detroit. I got these They told me, I got Googles with me. These Googles is actors, and I called you up. I tell you listen, I got the most cordeous dudes playing actors. And you see me the ones like that I'm ready to do. And the next time I seen the movie us the song this is legit. So I remember I took it. I took him over the shine. I'm so sorry. So let's say last thing before we talk to tell them. Tell them what you got going on. Tell them my movie, the last twenty four, the five films with my siblings. We had a film company, and I decided to go on my studio or do another goddamn album. Yeah, we're not coming to hurt you when I get finished. All right, I'm cool, all right, what you got going on? Tell people? Okay, so you know I'm EP and growing up in hip hop really now, growing up hip hop Atlanta Blockers Okay, so Thursday nice now, growing up hip hop ten PM, we TV and whislockers at TV. They come behind this show, Okay, then they'll come out. They're getting that money. Yeah, stop getting money. Yeah that's going on. I have my dual station be one that's coming back. So I'm bringing PEP one hundreds back. I have some other stuff hopefully coming through with my new team. But they fired every day. Okay, come on a radio show to the station. Distributed company Tag Tag Destro is the distab company. Let's go. I'm listening Tag Standford, the anti group bo Yeah up plus not that. But we have Premise, which is a Kanya. It's a Kane and it's not somebody else's. It is Tag again the Auntie Brook it was the family. Yeah, we have to talk about Tag on song. I'm gonna talking a boy, all right. I like this bottle. It's a little weird as he can see. He's team. That's why I said it wanted to be something about these big things that need to be cleared up. You just brought up. That's still problems out there now, and that's all we have to get this sh We have to stop the rumors to stop, to stop that's going on because these little minions is running around thinking that they can hand you somebody's ship. He had other people's ship get in when that's the major leagues. You're not even ready right like he from my heart, I don't watch some girl to me as you know, and we we can go into it. Supreme was in prison, he was home and I'm not gonna my man just what his first gloves. I'm not gonna dispect this man. You know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna do that at all. You know what I'm saying with me personally, out of come line call wolfing and sheep clothing, wolf and sheep cloth. Let's make some noise for that. Like you gotta be a wolf, but you gotta win this ship. You a sheet, you feel me? You have me a wolf? No mean, but we gotta put some a open here. We got we got this is this is everybody put their own solo, put their own solo. You gotta go. You gotta played noory for this ship. Every drinking this bullshot. I'm supposed to you supposed to get drunk with me. This is which is supposed to do. I don't know, but every company own solo, but big you come on, Chell, We got the We got the check in no no, no check in podcast. We got the check in podcast. Like me do again? What else? So we got we got to check the podcast? Of course, you know I got a couple of the movie projects. I'm trying to get me doucers. So I'm looking for funding to get those projects off the ground. Um and then um, we got a clothing line. I'm sorry, No you need clothing with me. It's just a lot of movie projects. Man, It's like I'm asking this crush. Yeah, well it's mean, you know, it's it's a hood. Like nobody can never trade mark Crisshaway. You can try to, but there's too many people that come from Crenshaw, Like it's it's a whole nation of people. So as ridiculous for anybody to say they own it, like nobody can own that as they went to Creshaw before me after, you know. And so I don't think nobody can trade mark Crenshaw. We can't just make the brand still look better. So I'm doing I got a weed line coming out. This is the Cresshaw papers. Just decide right now. We got bloods coming it all that, But the most things I'm more important about is developing option. So that's the work I do with the kids. And with that, I got over boys that were they put through college and they put in school. My son is I got six, is gonna graduate this year with my son group. He's graduating from mom reading the vat of my youngest son. I mean, right behind him is gonna be four more of my kids who're gonna be graduating from college. So that's what we got. We gotta take it my back, you know, spring ground bags we got. I don't know so. Look, but the distribution company unique distribution. It's for people to go out pot of music. I'm not really trying to sign artists no more. Just really give artists on the platform to put their music out. So we already had that, but like I said, the distribution come in with that's for y'all. Man passed out around. Hey, looks for looks the aty movie coming out? You know the family and yeah, you are really fine? Got their bags? You fine. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by Yours Truly, d j e f N and n O r E. 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