N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, we revisit some of our favorite moments of 2020.
2020 was a wild year, to say the least. But your drunk Uncles stayed busy as they interviewed some of the biggest guests in the history of Drink Champs!
In 2020, we welcomed Lil Wayne, Floyd Mayweather, DJ Khaled, Nicky Jam, Pitbull and others to the DC table. While toasting with the legendary Goodie Mob, Dave East, Smoke DZA and more for the first time.
We continued to share laughs with DC Alumni Jack Thriller, Jadakiss, Fat Joe and others. 2020 also brought us the iconic interview w/ Pharrell Williams and hip-hop royalty Busta Rhymes.
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Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio and his drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rappers. He's like, is your boy here? No R He's a Miami hippop pioneer, up his dj e FN. Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet number one source for drunk fast drink chs motherfuckings New Year's Eve, that's it's time for drink Chance, trick up, motherfuck mother would a good beat, hopefully, would spy this is your boy? What up is d j e F And this is his drink Chance? Motherfucker yappy hour make up? We got damn lawyer, check out me feel so I'm sorry, So I'm sorry to be all over the places. But DMX was the hottest at that time. So everyone deals with these discrepancies of people saying, um uh when you're signed to an artist, if you're signed to an artists, was that something you faced im mediately or that's something that that I don't know. I was a kid, like my my fondest memories where X is like, that's an ill nigger. I remember X went to foot locker and ain't boby you no damn shoes or whatever. You a bunch of shoes when I was but I was a kid, but you were short. MS stole my first piece of pussy that I ever was gonna get this story, so the first in your life. Yes, I almost lost my virginity, but DMX though my my pussy, that's a sole. We're in Toronto, Canada. I'm with him. He's filming a movie with Steven Seagal Exit Wounds. We're out there. We're going crazy, like X is on top of the world. So we go to this club because you know, EX love to play pool, so we like he bought out this whole little club and had bitches like it was like only we were the only niggers there, but it was full of itches. So X was like, yo, you know what I'm saying, do you shorty? You know I like that little look for you. I'm upstairs. This is my first time like finger fucking a girl, Like I'm finger finger banging a girl inside the club, like smelling this scratchers never get my whole little vibe on. We get back to the hotel. We're staying at the Sutton Place hotel. So X had the big penthouse suite. I don't know. For some reason, because I was an artist, he put me in like the regular room right next to him. So you know how this ship go. I'm in an entourage. So the artist, you know, X drive like a madman. So he gets there before us. He go upstairs with vibe or whatever. I guess his vibe didn't work out. I stayed in the car for the rest for like Ali and all the other people to like take me upstairs. I go upstairs. I'll never forget. I mean, I think it was me and p K remember Pekah We go up, I get off the elevator or whatever, and I got the girl with me I'm talking about. I'm literally putting the key inside the hotel door and ex room open, like I think it's like a dog. For he open the door as soon as I'm walking in, like, ain't my uh? I think you love your person in my room? Why did you We've been these misses at the club. He ain't never been to. That bitch goes in d m X room and he took me. God that through that bet you that chick somewhere needing to beat right now, she probably needed a hit makers beating, like right now you miss your blessing the way to go through. Man, this ship I forget. I'm I'm forgetting. This is an interview. This ship is more like no, this is this family is gathering. This is like family gathering. Bro, you can I can I say something? Yeah, please say something something interviews in my lifetime. He is special one because you know how to like get you right, and then he and he get all the right ship and then you're gonna come but it's gonna come in like and then it just with a question you look at like damn, you're not mad at him, but you're like that was like you know, you know, like Jordan, he got a certain way that you know even the man will can bounce and turn around and still like you know what I'm saying. This Mannority just came with so much ship. And then while you're doing it after like some ship, like a theory is something you take a shot like gotta to some ship. You don't even know what's going on. So it's like everybody cooling it background like oh, this camera's on to so I'm not I'm trying to fig out what we do. You know, a lot of artists can't save this. You guys not only got records with Dr Dre. You guys are actually in the studio. You guys made classics with Dr Dred. This is not that it's only a handful of people I can say they was in the studio with Dr Dre and made over ten records with him. It's not that's that's it's like like maybe five, six, maybe ten people in the whole world. It is a universe. How is that working with Dr Dre? Is it Prussia? I'm learning experience because you know what I'm saying, Okay, shut the funk up and just listening. You know, when he leaves, then you go back and mess with all this hip. He'd been doing stuff. That's what we used to do. That's real, that's really that's when I was young. It's just I had a point to prove. So my point was to prove it to Dr Dre. Soor was my inspiration? You're just Gonnam. Nowadays, there's some pressure because it got the Dre. You know, he expects a certain thing from you if you say and he wants you to say, and then damn. Yeah, he wants you to get it right going INtime. It's a little bit of pressure now because Sains find dr dre as easy as when Nis. Ye know, you know what I'm saying, because he expects something out of it. You know what the show that me and you are side, we're doing all we're doing the Hall of episode. So it was so dumped up. You know what means? Have you check in with it with the young only Davies. Oh my god, oh Ship Davies. You by the one Kilt, I got that. Tell me Jess's not giving me the points and they got me on the drink ship and we we're doing who can you Call? It's good? Hey called it responed get the boot right now he's the end of viewing. Davies were having a second made called who could you Call? And I think you just made me win. Thank you so much, Kenny Smith, co my, you're gonna make erg How do you do that? Make you gonna keep calling you? Everybody makes some doors from man? What's going on? Well, I ain't know we called the ot te you didn't call it? I thank you? Great show? See that stopping squashed? I thought he just keeps coming back st't we're calling bro. We literally had I iced te Snoop Mary NASHV. That's like, all y'all sorry, you should have called him right. You don't want black King Baby she comes out, everybody's gonna be like, you'll call me no black pink j E FM Drink Champs right now you're about to catch it inside. Look at the first Quarantee Champs episode. Let's go Quarantine Chance, h I mean, think about all their serving records going back to the B n B all the way through. Guess come on, I don't know if we would have went through Swiss or Timberland, that would have not happened. I also, like, I like rock and dass all yeah you did, but you did it on stage right, But I'm talk about the virtual aspect of it. Ye love Yeah, I love on Drink Chance. We we've been talking for years about creating some kind of hip hop union or something that takes care of the pioneers in the art context of the culture and everybody moving forward. Yeah. I just yeah, I just had a real interesting conversation with Swizz about that. Um, you know, on my I G Live, I do this thing, you know every day, like five o'clock. We talk five o'clock East coast and we I mean West coast, and we talked and me and Swizz was talking about um. You know, Swiss was saying that you know, he wanted to raise you know, a hundred million dollars to um uh, you know, to take care of of some of the founders and the pioneers and the medical and the things that are important. And I have to agree with them. I would definitely donate to something like that. Obviously, you know, it has to be you know, transparent, and it needs to be vetted and taking care of, which I know it would be. But I'm I'm in agreement. I think that the pioneers definitely need to uh and the founders need to be looked after and respected. That's why I've decided that, you know, I told Swiss and I made a pledge that as I built Rock the Rock the bells, and because it's gonna be a lot bigger and a lot more to come than what you guys to see. And now right now you just kind of hear the radio station and you're not sure, but there's gonna be a whole platform and thing that's coming. Um, I'm gonna give a piece of rocketbells as a company. I'm gonna make sure that some of the founders and the pioneers have equity and have a peek to this and have ownership in it. Um. I'm gonna do what I can and make my pledge to keep moving the culture forward and keep contributing and keep giving. UM. So yeah, I'm would Swiss a hundred million percent on that UM. And I also say, you know, we started that four years ago. Well, not only did you start, but the right thing like listen, listen each iron shopping's iron right, and any good idea you have is gonna go to another level. And I think that you did. You should take credit for that because you have been given the guys their flowers and bringing people on, proving that people still had viable fan bases even though they weren't at the top of the charts at the moment. And I think that you've been very um instrumental in keeping the culture moving allward and and keeping our you know, like my generation. You're a little younger, but my generation and your generation connected to the people that they love. UM. So you know I respect that. So yeah, I'm with Swiss on that I think it's great, and it's not to not the youth, like the youth and the new generation of artists like the Offsets and the you know, the the baby and you know and Tory Lanes and you know little Baby and NBA Young Boy and all of the different They have the right to succeed and have success and get their paper and be and be kids and live life. They got that right. But as men, as we grow up, we gotta think about some other things too, because we should set the foundation for them to get to grow older and not have to worry as well. I have something because I always I always say, like I refer to SAG like something like a sag kind of like I mean, I don't know if that's the right reference, but I feel like, you know, whatever it is, it is out of it, you know whatever some subliminary conversations in that area. You know, we need something bigger than sack. And not only that, I think it should feel like a criteria like how we're doing Drink Champs, Like if you have ten years or more than we interview with you on Dream Champs. I feel like it's the same way like if a person has been working in hip hop for ten years, twelve years, fifteen years. Maybe he didn't hit the platforms that all hit. Maybe he didn't hit this ship that jay z here. Maybe he just had you know, a gold single or whatever. But he gave that same blood, sweat and tears of us and he gets sick and he gets sick. I feel like it should be people that step up us. Look like you take a guy like Special Legs, Special Letting made a huge contribution to the culture. He didn't necessarily have a thousand albums and a thousand hits, but those records were really important us and then you know, and a lot to all of us. So you know, like yes, absolutely rob based guys like that, Like listen, like it's not you know, everybody's not gonna have hit after hit after hit, just like everybody ain't gonna have twenty Grammys. You know, some people get the things happen and you get a run and it is what it is. But we should look out for everybody, you know what I'm saying for sure, And this is where I think or where I think a little differently. Also, is that not even just the pioneers, but like I said, even the youngest guys coming in who they aren't thinking about having insurance or having this or have look at COVID nineteen. Now it's hitting people and maybe they weren't prepared for it and they were an artist, if they as a culture and as an industry, we said, look, this is what you can pay into the minute you get in and then you're you have insurance and you have you know, I think what you're saying is right. I think, um, you know, I think that that's uh, there's a bigger conversation that needs that he had about that. I think that that's something that, um, it really needs to be thought about. You know what I'm saying, Like the whole idea of putting something together where there's you know, financial literacy, where there's insurance, where there's um, you know, some sort of annuity thing that you know is deductive from royalties, where there's something that kind of you know, gives the youngsters an opportunity to have something. So when they finished going through the old chain Rose Royce face, they got something left. If it wasn't in a lot of ways, if it wasn't for him, it wouldn't be a component Noriega. I'm honored to be celebrated twenty five is congratulated the most great greatest out you heard that. I told you I was about it. But we're celebrated for you right now. Half you gonna have a drink. Don't make two voices for the JA because I wanted my mom to find me, and she found me in the show How happened on the show, just like that, Bro, That's that's the part that made me cry. I'm gonna tell you another ill you and when you when you, yeah, yeah, listen, I'm gonna give you a story. Man, let's go right unbotting this ship. So I didn't like d M Max real ship. I watched DM mixing shout up to my man Denton right shout then growing up for Hall and Wue the town DM Max. You he lived in around our hood like they have put him, put him like in his build in the you know, shut out for they have dogs. He had his dog. So he battling on the corner down my battling all the niggers around me. Right, he battled, He battled in on the block on the hunt twenty first right seven, father, I shout, don't even understand classic that is begause. He battled them and the nigga he did some ship like, uh, oh, should fight me this all? Remember the falls should like you some all and like you be betiful taping my dog. She might bite you and then the dog you go and then the dog. No, no, he said, the dog, she might bite you. Something with a baby, and then the dog drowned. He's like like, chill, mom, let me get him. Listen to me, Listen to me, y man. But it was a dog, yo, listen to me. Like now it's okay, listen for guys. I tell myself Garber's cut me shaving. So this little white thing is it's a it's a little thing. It's like I got and I jumped on the stage and I said it was nis. Now jumped on the stage and I did my verse from a song called set It Off that was one one of the poets albums, and um now I did this verse from lobby to barbecue. So I wasn't even on and I still was showing love. That's how he was, you know what I'm saying. So I opened up for Arab and rock him at the Apollo. So all this stuff, Steve need to chill because he didn't he didn't do his research. He didn't like me. He took things personal. Even with the he took things personally, like you know what I think, Mac, I'm sorry to cut you off. This is I'm not I'm not defending him, but what I think was he was invested in Nas and Nas. That's it. Anything came around or disputed Nis, he just didn't want nothing to do that. You know, in the same show he told me he hated on me to my face. He said, I thought you ain't go hard nor he said that to my face. So well, I'm gonna show you just how this. When I Complex magazine interview with Steve Stout, there was an interview with Cormega saying you there was an interview with Cormega was saying that you had a role of him being kicked out the firm. Hey, Steve, he was never in the firm, man. He should have never been in the firm. Believe me, he wasn't. He truly didn't get along with some out tim out even when Nas was shouting h out on one love, they weren't cool. That was cool. He just got out of jail. It took him a while to get it acclimated to what was going on? Time out, Let me fix this right now. First of all, One Love came out, Steve, you wasn't even in the picture. You was not NAS manager until it was written. When we luck came out. I was in jail when it was. I was there with Nasa together that yes, yes, Steve wasn't around. I was there with Nasa met Steves. So right now you're giving your person that you was there. You wasn't even when NAS were shouting the mount on one Love, they weren't cool. That was cool. He just got out jail. No, I didn't get out of jail. I was in jail. That's said one love, One love at the term has been jail man got people write in jail. When I was writing the Eyes from jails would write one Love at the end of my letter. Okay, now I continue. That was cool. He just got out of jail. It took him a while to get acclimated to what was going on. In the business sense, he said, in a business sense, and his manager at the time, a lot of different things. Chris no tim out, he said in a business sense, and his manager at the time, A lot of jafferent listened to that. They didn't like bis Bich wasn't seasoned, he was new. But there goes there goes arrogant mega again. I gave somebody from the project a chance to be my manager, there goes me showing love as usual. So Biz didn't have the savvy business savvy of a mar Pits or a Steve or a Cresh, But he was somebody from the hood that I was trying to get a chance to me Screw. But Screw, you know, Screw was a real intelligent, unique guy man, even in the Mr Lean you know what I mean. I had an opportunity to meet that brother. I have to tell his story, you know. DJ Screw ain't no told his story at least but DJ Screw. When I met DJ Screw, DJ Screw was being uh extorted by an artist that was connected with me. And I didn't know nothing about the extort but I was the one supposed to be extorting it. So it was because you're back in that, yeah, DJ, he was paying artists right a monthly. It's not real ship because they was connected to you. Yeah, because because I was telling him that I had that. So after here and I had an opportunity to get together in my office. I'm looking at the staff, right, and then he's sitting looked at He said, man, you ain't nothing like they say you are, right, So I'm like what you mean? And he broke that ship down to me. Say, man, I've been had, you've been getting your money right, I don't know nothing about your ship like a lot of ship go on. You know what I mean that I don't know nothing about it, like you know, screw d up. You know, I end up falling a little with screw man. You know what I mean. But I just had to say that ship, you know, and artist was starting him yeah, using your name. Yeah, Holy I'm not going to ask for the artist. Is this I want to ask? I'm not going to let me say this about it. He did. Okay, God bless you that he's not here spected specific. So you got companies are selling them clothes for a thousand dollars and people get intention So but I ain't say that, you know what I'm saying, Like it's just like man or bro you got niggs I have saying they musling with a cross on. Ain't that you got? You got people that's saying that jewis But charge your interest to people that you know can't paid. But you know what I'm saying. You got black niggas that say black power, but there shoot up. So for nigga like me, I just look at it an't and just be like ship fun. I'm gonna fall in love. I'm gonna be laming, laming. I'm dead ass serious. But that with change, you know what I'm saying. Gemini nigs we jump everywhere. But for nigga like me, I just move in love, bro. So I know, brother, I cant popped to day and go anywhere. I know I'm going to Heaven, I know for a fact, and I'm not going here. I ain't do nothing hell bound. Ever, I don't lie of niggas. I ain't capping. I ain't. I don't have to lie to get money. I don't give a funk with you're making, bro, because if I if I'm in your pocket, Nick, I'm ready to rob you. So if anybody in your pocket I want to know what you're making, you better believe they are rob you. So I don't want you thinking like that because that's I was with all this ship and I grew up around it. So I just do shot out of love, you know, meny niggers try me and say s every day that I hate. Sometimes all hey, guy with your friend, why are you playing football? Who do you play football? That's disrespectful. I'm a big black guy, so I'd like to keep my mind together. But I love to show people, especially in this society, for the bitch made motherfucking puss that ball. As They'll be honest with you, any gratification does not exist. So therefore to be fifteen, I've been twenty years in the game. You've been in the game, what five something like that, ninety seven, so you know when you're twenty three in the game. I've been in there since ninety nine. Was my first contract with Luke. I mean, I remember getting on I remember seeing y'all about ninety five ninety six when I was around certain people in uh the women in Canada, some crazyhood. What I google you know what it says. It says your first break was on the Miami mix tape. Yeah, And I wanted to wonder, did it was that something that intertwined with you guys or break it down? Because I did a lot of mix tapes, they did a lot of mix tapes, and then we would we would get together to put together different verses on different things. But to get to any offense at the time was like getting to a flex in New York, getting to a clue. But he had to earn my stripes. I had to earn my respect. Never man, people gotta shoo listen, People gotta because I'm gonna tell you. People gotta pick and choose. That was the right time for him to say that son has got to use their weapons when they could use him. He was because he was trying to prove a clue to you, like whatever he want to see what I'm trying to say, what I'm trying. What I'm trying to say is this, and please years old, don't tell me I should feel about allowed me to speak, Yes, and I do love that, But it allowed me to speak at forty seven years old. Having a family one thing. Nobody in this world can't tell you how you feel. You feel how you feel because of a reason. It's not to say that nobody can't give you clarification about how you feel, and then maybe you feel differently after you have the discussion. That's not what was presented to me. Point Black, I love Earth. There's nothing just to clear up everything. To this day, Earth can't go through nothing. And if I'm there, I wouldn't stand there like us to the end. Still still you love me. You hear me. You stopped for you. You're my Geronimo Neigg Firs talking about my Geronimo bro. I made to watch you, my nigga crazy. I'm not in danger of jeopardize and where I stand with it. Just watch. I'm gonna watch you, guy. I'm here for you tectually always. You know that, right. So what I would say is that because of what we did as people, and because of the amount of lives that we change from just one record, I will always love love Earth. God. I don't care if IRV got He does a movie. I don't care if IRV got He doesn't love the Autist. I don't care if IRV got He does Murder ain't the reboot. I love Irving Lorenzo. All that say ship. Let me see that's also Olderman. That's all this is, This is all to be it ought to be the bone. Yeah, this is this is like like you's four thousand less than Autumn. Yeah, I paid I paid three hundreds and this is all the thousands. And then that's the thing. You shouldn't let me wait. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Yeah, if you don't mind, I'm gonna screw up on the passenger side, resting who the food? But they're trying to rob people that on your block, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they definitely did. But I pushed that another one in the name of Jesus and the Nickerson And then the police came. And and when I call the phone, when I tell you, they came on time, and I press charged to the fullest instead wall they keep my aller bell to be. You said, you gotta order beat you got give me hey, hey, what brag says? You know, even when the fredoms renting them wholes want to get in it, even when it's rinded, they want to get they know what this is, and they know what it they han't know what it should be. It should Yo, everybody can't rent a gari. Damn my life. You see what I'm talking about? Said, come on like this is one of the best replercause you let we see this is this is top of the bottom of the line. Because you don't, says, I wouldn't gonna put it on. He said, he got an older be real. The real is actually ring. Actually he's actually get to go. Let me tell you something fun fact about the ring. Right, this ring was bought by d m x uh my man his name, he was going by Buck at the time. He was just kitty but how you get kitty butlers rate. He became my personal assist him and when when he told me somebody guy advanced them and he didn't having nothing to cover, and he gave me the ring and I get that ring. Woman. I just wouldn't touch you. I just wanted may take kids. Man, you're gonna give me my ship back? You're gonna get because I'm gonna seeing this, yo, this is only real ship I got. Kids. Don't know that New York ship because I'm not gonna wait for it back. I I'm not gonna if you don't get back on my assway see you on town. So you don't get If you don't get it back, man, your nice, I ain't gonna put it on. Yeah, what is yourying to do is get that. That's how you ain't know what it's going on in. It's my color barre as a gym company. B He's very dare little darylt doing cocaine around. No, man, listen, I've been doing cocaine teen years old. Nor ain't about nobody, ain't nobody's story, nor we're not going there. Yeah, you would me. You've been in situations that we might not want to speak on right now, normy talk, I don't say cocaine. Remember, remember, remember, right, So let's just let's just let's sleep in do alright, alright, alright, murder you need alright, yeah, asking him. Wait, let's remember whose records got played on ninety SI, let's remember who back it's got back on Hot Night. Yeah, and they bam me. That's very true. We go on too that we're not going you don't want to go to the nice version. Buffalo was a different thing. A lot of people don't know the poverty of Buffalo. Like that's one of like that in Detroit is a very very very poor place. But a lot of people when they think of Buffalo, they think of the Buffalo bills, and they think of Buffalo wins. Y'all. Motherfucker's are selling cocaine, you know everywhere, Man, getto everywhere, and you know, man, it's just we just wanted to bring that film man our aspect you know what I mean, the story of the streets, man, how we do it up by our way, so you know what I mean, We just always focused on that being myself, I expect that so much, and I expect y'all because uh oh yeah, please, how y'all stay true to the game like y'all could have. Y'all could have tapped dance and did all that. Everybody, like everybody again follow you didn't You didn't follow what nowadays people was doing. What made you want to keep you so true? Um? Honestly, just just having a confidence man, and our ship, like we know, like should I ship was held too, so it's like we could be ourselves and you know what I'm saying, and we kind of lived that lifestyle anyway, this ship that you know, niggas be rapping and snapping about. But we're just doing a different way man, like you said we are now we're from that vein like y'all niggas, you know what I'm saying. So we just try to keep our ship official like that, and just be ourselves in the city. You know what, man, you got a very very rich history. Now. What I mean by that is Molly mar came on here Molly mar said in a lot of ways, no me like I need drink Champs, And he was kind of saying like like I put a lot, but he was kind of like, yeah, if it wasn't for what he did, maybe I wouldn't have been here. In a lot of ways, He's right. So I want to take it from you from the beginning of because queens seemed like you know, honestly, now a lie, I'm living it. But I didn't realize how rich I was having a Queen's Bridge affiliation. Like I didn't realize that until I actually became a Roman. But you know, let's think about it. You really had mc ship, Molly, mall uh rock sand oh Nas, you have it like y'all all from that, Like this is crazy, so prob. Didn't you know what to do? How did you know to get that? Molly? I just I'm just looking at it like this, like you know, I had I had a certain go around me that helps set the standing what I had to do. You know what I'm saying, As long as you've got st elite around me, bro hold, sorry, you want to come on the drink up space, you know what I'm saying. I see you can follow perion. I'm telling you, I'm telling jay Z when you let's go take a shot. Yeah, shot, you're gonna get the shot. Shot you get to this shot. I'm little shot you because I sent them all right, I've seen the motherfucking um what do you call it? But you we we got I'm black, we got watermelon. No, I'm like the water. I'll take on some food. Are you we got looking for you? Okay? Right right yere, I'm man. I'm man because you know y'all know, but this show was about celebrating that and trash. I ever want to get you back to that. But let me just get lots. Let me give you more flowers. In case you didn't know how much I appreciate you, like I really do you know what I'm saying. I know me and you we like each other sometimes, so we bumped heads. But just in case you don't know, if it well, it wasn't for you, I really wouldn't be here like you actually pushed when you gave me the battery on my back and you helped me mold to who I am. So in case I've never told you that to your face, I want to tell you that my face, Yeah, I know what. You know that you know what I'm saying that I want you to know that the fast also so to you what what I'm saying, man, And it all boiled down to me having a certain kind of standard around me, you know what I'm saying, Just like once I got that standard from them, I was able to all you that bag and all that standard when I when I started moving with you. You know what I'm saying. I might have been, you know, a little aggressive with my approach. That sounds, but at the same time I'm around, rapping around came and these dudes at that particular time, they shocks, they assassins, So I knew I couldn't be the little dude and get you round out. You know, we're not having that type of over you know what s I hadn't I didn't get in, you know what I'm saying. So it was definitely a learning experiments and a good alley for me, man. And I appreciate your like even to this day, I always give I always give rap Canna back with Karate Chop. Momly give them back with Cloudy Chop because they helped, you know, because that's like difference because like see him in Buffalo. Isn't the other artists from Buffalo? Right? I mean, yeah, it's been heroes, but I mean everything everything, you know what I'm saying. He was one of the you know what I mean, the elder states man. I was just nasty with his pen and the doing this thing in the town. So it's it's a's a lot of artists. That's there's a lot of you got your shape artists. Yeah, when you got to do say, we're gonna gonna get right because I said, oh, that's very good. Rio was different. Let me tell you why Maria was different because it was your turn, in my opinion, looking from the outside and not to be selfish because the my wire record is not with you by yourself. Are we clear on that? Very clear? This is the flip mold baby? Would you give it to me? You know that was what your food? What made you say I had a favor from my wire carry the princess from the Alps of everywhere as everywhere. I didn't think of anything else. She's she's such a rutiful person. She's an angel. Like every Christmas Carol should be heard sound close. She needs to use that as well. In my mind carry up a little carry fame up, dolo what you said? Let me put Let me be honest. I made the record with my crew before we called Mariah, because no, she was never planning B. She was always she was always playing A. But see, the collective of all of us was the plan A. If the collective of all of us didn't work, then I would have had to create a plan B. Almost in a good am. Yeah, he was one time man. We was in the warehouse, good ms about it before his pulps is walking up to me and told me that Paul was trying to get with us. You know, I say, want to do some music, trying to see what did you do to get what? He was in jail? And then she gave me all this information he was in Clinton at that time. So um, you know, we were just I don't even know how much being disgusted because it was just so surreal, you know what I mean that how how are you probably gonna get you all to jail? You know, we didn't know nothing about that I'm talking about. Less than a month later, he was signed of death broke, you know, looking for some family man. I want to belonged and someone to be safe me. Yeah, I mean good people were crazy. Imagine that would have been your kids too at the time. Yeah, so y'all, y'all you don't know how to handle that situation. Y'all don't know how to all? Did y'all did? We did? We did because he was a comrade. You know what I'm saying, that we ship, We would love that, we would have loved to have him on board, and so we asked to actually be a part of goody mom man. He asked be a part of the mall that what the girl was telling me at that time, I was speaking through her. I couldn't talk straight to him. He was in prison because is ready. Remember listen, we're going right back to Tupac. This is beat that time, a different era. So you hit me and said, yo, I just said Michael Jackson some beats. I'm like, I'm like, like, I didn't understand this talk because I'm like, damn, I'm not no Michael Jackson ever at all. So I'm like where you said to me? So we Nope, I don't think nor we will rhyme on that, nor will. I was like, my life is done, listen, do yo. John McClain was his manager at the time. We sat him pretty much all the stuff you guys are hearing on the first Justified album, that's all the Michael stuff. Wait, justin, justin Timberlay, all but one song, they were all written for Michael Michael. What error of Michaels remember the time era. This is right at the super colgr you rocked my world right before that, and and John McClain was like, man, Michael, don't want that ship. They want the ship that you're given. Nor I'm like, immediately thought of Michael with the crypts and the blood picture. Don't know No, he was like, yo, he wanted that super You know it wasn't another one. You're just Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by Yours truly, d j e f N and n O r E. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. Let's add Drink Champs across all platforms at the real noriegon I g at Noriaga on Twitter, mine is at Who's Crazy on I g at d J e f N on Twitter, and most importantly, stay up to date with the latest releases, news and merged by going to drink Champs dot com. 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