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Episode 238 w/ Saigon

Published Nov 27, 2020, 8:01 AM

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. 

In this episode, the guys drink it up with The Yardfather aka Saigon. The guys discuss idols becoming rivals, Love & Hip Hop, creating positive music, working on the hit television show “Entourage”, working with Just Blaze, JAY Z and a lot more!

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Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect and I heart radio and Drink chas motherfucking podcast. D's a legendary queen's rapper, He's Segre is your boy in O R He's a Miami hip hop and Mioneer is d j e f N. Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk drinks motherfucking is New Year's just time for Drink Champs. Drink up, mother mother would it could be? Hopefully what is Superus? Is your boy in O R E? What up is d j e FN? And this is motherfucking drink Champs makes up Right now, when you talk about legends and you talk about bar lord, I hate people using that right now, bar lord and bar bar guards and you know what I'm saying. And when you look at like the like the product of um. I know this is probably like heavy on it, but like the product of what Tupac would be, it's like, you know, revolutionary but still street. Like. We're looking at this brother right here, we're looking at bars. We're looking at a person who worked with trade songs, person who worked with jay Z, the person who had projects with DJ Drama first of a projects would just place oh amaze with the y'all you understand the man and the transition on y'all done what he said he played his own self in Entourage, because you know why he played himself in Entourage. Back slip it on, y'all got reality TV, got some mona checks and he's back and now he's here and he's signed to Strange motherfucking music. If you don't know what we talked about, we talking about side on yar you did as Strange special kind of deal is distracted, but I get labeled services. So they gave me. They gave me market and marketing. And that's the first thing we thought of. It was like, why has Vetin calling? Why didn't Strange Music call? You know what I'm saying? And then we do better the way you like the only third rappid late in four years. But we blamed on vetting the body. You felt like Ben had to stop and get some party favors from somewhere, from somewhere, we don't know, we're just blowing out. They were riding with the story, were riding. Let's pop that off he's gonna drink something, but we are. We're drinking one of these. We weren't drinking. We don't know how to pronounce this ship. But that ship, the fifty cent ship. You know what, when we drink it, we will get So all right, let's take it from the beginning. Yeah, when we when we first, when you first came on the scene, was just blaze discovered you na okay, No, No, I got when I got out of jail. You know when you get out, when you get out, you got the niggers that never wrote you, and ship like that and then just lays one of those. But I took all the yeah we love you money, the hundred dollars here, the fifty dollars here, and I was just writing. I was writing my whole bit. I was just writing it, writing it right. And I wrapped in the yard all day. That's where that who you all fathers ship come from. I'm rapping into yards. That bottle pope, he's the worst. So when I came home, man, I just took that little money when the studio and start recording the wraps that I had. What studio was that was not? What was that? No? That wasn't it was bullshit down in Broome Street. Did we walk up to Nah, you had to walk up a big gass flight of steps, and that's what niggas had. Rials and ship. Okay, yeah, I was called no mystery. Okay, Yeah, so that ship was like so I went in there and ship and I just was a mystery. Came a mystery because I went in that motherfucker and was like, this ship got a work. I ain't got no no plan B pointing. See, I ain't got no education, twenty two years old. I just did. Then there seven years in the joint. I gotta I gotta make this ship work. What I'm saying, I'm in jail, I'm going in and out of jail. My fucking teenage is But was this the time when you came out you said, this is my last that was my last time. This is this is it, man, this is it. I gotta do something my life and didn't have kids yet. No, Okay, you still knew. You still knew it was a better thing. Yeah, because you know, when you know, you've been in there, so when you when you know, you see them old timers will be schooling You're like, yo, lio, nigg I've been number exactly. I'm like the fun like and he's like, yeah, man, you could end up you could end up being like me. You may be a mistake. You asked to be in for us to your life. So I was like, you know what, I should always stayed in the back of my head. You know what messed me up? The other day we're speaking to Willow, and Willow sat down with us and he told us he did twenty years. I was kind of I was kind of nervous to ask him for the crime and because and then when I asked the crop it was for two robberies. I just just blown away because of the Pennsylvania Like imagine, imagine he said a murder with gut less Yeah, you would think a body for that time. That's what I thought. So I didn't really want to ask. Yeah, that's crazy. And you know that Ship. Yeah, So when I came out, man, I was like, this is gonna be it. I had a dude who knew a couple of niggers and ship Wow, who was locked up with me and Ship. You know, a couple of niggers in the street. He's like, Yo, we can get you some beats from it. Was a kid named Mark Ronson who ended up being a Yeah, I ended up putting me with Mark. Ronson was the first one to say the land line over here, yo, yo, showing off, yos, weve been coming here. I'm sorry. Bronson was the first one who like, give me beats and and put me in the studio and ship and yeah, and he was he had just started. He was a DJ. He's a DJ for all the big parties and ship all the white because what I'm saying. So he was like, Yo, I used to carry the Nigga records. I' meman one time carrying the nigger records and I see a run from run DMC Nigga, Like that's how I started showt he keep it up. I'm like, Nigga, ain't like you to talk about this aducer back then that was ready to pass crates, car create and ship's you know what I'm saying. So so I went from there. Ron I did the deal with Ronson. It was like a six month deal situation. But at the time, you know, I came home with that that stupid ass mindset. Still, so while when I got these songs, I'm giving my songs and like DJ Clue and Case Slay and all these niggas, and you know, I passed you my CD. I'm waiting for my ship to be on your mixtape munching and on your mix tapees like, we got a problem that that was my mind stage. So you got mad at the DJ. I had be for every DJ, every single DJ New York City. He me know, Case Slay was the only one. And I tell this ship all the time. Slay was the only one who sat me down. Was like, Nah, you ain't gonna get nowhere like this, my nigga. You can't make a nigga play your ship. You know what I'm saying. What you're gonna do, then don't play. You're gonna do something to him, go back to jail. That it was the Atlantic Dalky. That was just with Mark Bronson. That was with Mark Ronson. Yeah, that was with Ronson and Ship. And so when that ship didn't really pan out, it was two we were like two different far as with Yeah, it was kind of two different So then I just hit the pound the pavement again and went out there and Slave was sucking me. After that he was like, your little knucklehead, But I like your staff, what I'm saying. He was like, I like your staff, the nigga slay. I was like, yo, you host the mixtape for me and Ship and he was like, yeah, my nigga, just tell me what to say, then give me make at what you want me to say. He did the drops. I put a mixtape together and I just hit the streets with that Ship and my life changed, Supers, How did you initially link up Just Blaze? Sycamore? Sycamore? He's a legend man last Sycamore who he was a young kid at the time. Remember he used to make the instrumental mixtapes. Remember everybody around here Sycamore in the background. He used to make them the mixtapes and Ship. So I got with him. I started doing freestyles and Ship and then he's like, yo, one day he called me out the blue and I was going home and Ship. I was living in New Jersey. I was going home and nigger was like, Yo, would you want to funk with Just Blaze? And like, nigga, what the contents? That's the baseline And he was Just Blaze at the time. So he was like, you don't thinking about starting this new label and Ship? Um, you know? So he brought me down and I played on music I had and it was like, Yo, man um doing his label. You want to be my like nigger, let's do it. Because I'm thinking about the beats. I ain't thinking about his business sense. I'm just thinking about, Oh, I'm to had the best beats of the world. What I'm saying cool with his business sense, Uh, I wouldn't say it's business is. I just think he didn't care enough. You know what I'm saying. He wasn't think Sometimes signing to an artist or a label or producer, that's sometimes they put themselfs in front of. But there was for him. I don't think they know they're doing that. We don't even go hard for himself though, when I've seen that, like just could be way begger. Think about it. What was the last Just Blaze song you heard out on the or even out him and Swiss battle. We've just been quiet. But it ain't because he ain't He ain't got it no more. But he's been quiet since that battle. He was quiet before the battle. Okay, Yeah, like he only come out once in every three or four years because just thinking about and DJ. Yeah, that's his passion, like he think too. Yeah, like that nigger, he ain't hurting for nothing. So he come with Beyonce, call j Cale, you don't working on something. That's when he like Rick Ross, like he only comes for the A list big names. You know what I'm saying, He that when you have for twenty years straight, just had like a twenty year run. What I'm saying that that ain't that's that's not for a producer niggas is you're saying, once your sound is done, you're done, like and this ship man. So I got with him, but come to find out I wasn't even signing him. The niggas did the did y'all will tell us? And I ain't realized this top was trying to get out to deal. So I'm thinking the whole time, I'm signed to Just Blaze kind of production company. No, just Blaze is signed to g and how I'm signed to Jail and you signed to them niggas without even really really you signed to the nigger that signed to the nigga exactly. That's what that was a fact. And I ain't realized that until I was trying to get out the deal. When I'm like Mike, it was called rock the Mike. They had made a whole another company called Rock the Mike, and I'm like everything was rocking it. Know what I'm saying. It was all see Rock the Mike, like the Rock the Mic. I thought it was about the term. Look in that those two ceo the best super hips in the game. You look you go. I got in the car with hip hop one time. Oh he played with Alchemist all alchemists like it didn't care about with an artist was so he knows hip and then g I imagine has to be the same. So what could have happened with hot because that was to me seemed like when I Donna went through your music today and yesterday and I was going through and I was just listening to it. I was like, that seemed like the perfect CEOs for you. So I'm very curious, like you you suck my ship up me? Yeah, no playing up? What are you talking about? No? I definitely my nigger you in compone fu my life up just saying that. Man, I'm gonna break it down right down, that whole mom deep ship, that whole mom deep ship. When that when that, when that incident happened, If you remember that night, Yeah, I was I was I can't. I only went there and that I know I had a problem with let me tell you, I'm gonna tell you, tell your kids go. He was saving it to the middle of the interview, going on, you know, always a lot, it's so bad man, Okay, someone because you really tell you y'all double fucking me up because I don't know what without knowing, so boom. It was a CNN reunion. I was doing a reunion show. No, it wasn't a seeing them use a Hot ninety seven with the protest problem. It was the first time they wanted CNN and morb Deep had them perform the both albums in the Society. So we're supposed to beform War Report and he were supposed to reform exactly. That's my bad. That's had problem. That's exactly what it was. I know I had problems, man, because true life, because true life. Yeah you know what I'm saying, but you know true like my brother. And so I go on to Joint. I'm thinking, I just want to see t O and Wine and I'm getting an up at it, like that's where that's my favorite the world. I'm like, I thought, I see these niggas do on why I'm getting the funk out of here. I'm thinking it's s obs. I could I could be low in the corner, you know what I'm saying, and get the funk up out of here. I think I niggas do what you do. I believe were supposed to go first, but they went first for some reasons. Seven okay, because of the fight. That's why they ended up just going on stage. Because when you look at the video, because there was nothing that happened with your backstage. When we look at the video, you see when when the fight breakout, you see all the niggas on stage with me that ain't high. I started. I was on stage by myself. What happened the nigga? No can niggas walk so many years ago, so stage don't. And then I see these niggas coming from both sides of the stag. Oully was there. I'm like to do a bully, right, that's the backs my memory. So the bully watch this. I just listened to his music. I didn't even know to go there as far. Yeah, I'm going I'm going into what the funk happened? So I started out by myself on stage, when when people on YouTube and look at it and they see all the niggas on stage, and the niggas wasn't on stage when and I wasn't even go on stage until Peter Rosenberg was like, Yo, you got that? Come on baby, yeah, come on, babysh it is hot you got I said, this ain't the place because like I understand what you're saying. You got a hot record, you perform it and get it. Now. I'm telling you, man, this is what I said. This ain't that man, But they got it. They got hit on over. But so he I do it the ship anyway, and while I'm doing it, all the niggas walk on stage and you know, I get through it, but Havoc is Havoc is hugging me, saying it ain't no beef, ain't no beefs I'm like, your nigga is on stage for it. Yeah, yet this kid to celebrate me, Like what the y'all know? I thought it was to go because it was mine. So the nigga he's hagging me like it ain't no beef while you're performing while I don't performing. If you look at the ship, I'm broking back and forth. He's rocking with me. I see his cousin, Prince, who I knew since I was young, and Brooklyn and he got cousin Ain't Prince, Who's getting super busy. When I see Prince, I'm like, I'm like what I'm saying. He like, what nigga? I'm like I'm good. He's like, yeah, you good nigger. So I was like, oh ship. That's when I started smelling like, oh ship, I'm good, Like Prince, ain't got let it? You know what I mean. But let me ask you something, had anything physical ever happened with y'all prior to that? Almost Okay, we were about to get it on in another club, you know what I'm saying. But but ain't should happened because told about I was like, let's bank, let's fight, and he's like, now we won't fight, we shoot. I was like, all right, whatever. So so that ship wasn't about nothing. It was the whole ship wasn't about nothing because me and p had a relationship just like bro man, they don't don't don't. And the one thing I didn't like, and I don't really to talk about Prody too much because he's not here to defend the defendis that would have happened if he was here, he would say the same. Yeah, he was telling facts, feelings, facts over feelings, be doing let's ask. Let's ask because I'm going for watermelon because I am like nigger. I'm but I like I am like, I am like I am the day, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really like watermelons. So I just want to throw it out there. It's not a room. I'm going watermelon. You can go do say you feel like a brown looking a type of guy? Yeah? Okay, And you know you're the only dude in four years I got a verse for from Hole. You know what I'm saying, noise for that. But let's stick into the story. Let's still let's that's not the only person I got, especially at that time. And he's still hard to get a verse from Hope. But okay, so you wouldn't have have Okay, now I'm remembering the story. Yeah, I never remember. I'm not even remembering the YouTube. I remember me from being there. I'm good. From from me being there, I'm good. Story Okay, all right? So and it was the hand you would have had the arm around. Yeah, okay, I see Prince and princes like I asked, prince, and I ain't no problems, like nine no problems. So now when I go to walk off the stage, you know what I'm saying, that's when I guess to call itself the bully whatever you us. He grabbed me from behind, and that's when the whole ship went down. That's when I put my back on the wall and ship ship went dawmn. You know what, man, I get home, my nigga that night, I knew what I just did. You know. I get home, I go on World Store. You were like the first viral rapper. Good and bad. Right, that's good and now that was terrible at the time. Put out the nigger named Jordan Towers. I think his name, Okay, I don't. I like regular plastic. That's his name. The nigga used to nigger went yeah white. When I seen him sing, I will slap him today just for that. And this was thirteen years ago. Because when I went home, like I felt like a hero when I went because I ain't a lie. I thought I was gonna die at that club. Monegga went. I go on World Store and this nigga, they got me your sagons under the table we stopped on the mother to take You don't remember they put out a video with Chase going out the club. Oh, look at them. They niggas put fucking subtitles. Yeah, they put out ugly. It was ugly, my nigga. So I'm sitting there like, ain't this some ship, my nigga. So I'm looking at the comments, They're like, oh ship sad day, and then pop, I'm looking at this nigger career is over. And they had the title mob deep Chase his side on. Okay, that title, I see. I didn't see under the thing because it wasn't to the next day. I think that they actually showed you hitting yeah for the first couple And I understand you're saying, but I'll be taking a shot for that big salt salt so people. I couldn't even go outside. No. So, so in your mind, are you hoping that this put has come out? I didn't, your nigga. I'm praying if this comes out, you know you kind of want that against I don't make you feel bad. I'm gonna make you feel better and make your team feel better, make everybody feel better. I had an inference Beef. Oh yeah, yeah, when Peas book came out. I lost my mind, and the reason why I lost my mind, I'm not bragging. I'm not saying and that men want with it kind of felt like to me like someone came up to me and smacked me and then I beat the ship out of him. And then years later the person said I smacked Northy and I'm like, great, you did. Let's be clear. So I'm not you know, you know, everything is strong peace, you know what I'm saying all that, but this is history. If Prodigy was here, he would have a podcast and he would be saying this right now. So you know, godless and dead. We want to be clear, but this is a part of history. So you take it from this. Why that fu rock don't got a cap on it? Bro Come on, look, I'm on point listen, I'm on pointy. So so so when that video was out, I mean, I'm getting killed. I'm getting I stopped reading the comment, I started leading the leading. My social media isn't all that ship. This this is world, the star wars everything, and this is this is a bad moment. Whoever it was taping, a s ob comes out with a tape like this is the real story. And that ship redeemed me. Bro. That ship was redemption. You talk about a happy nigga. I was like, thank you, this is what really happened. And I was I wouldn't never remember. I remember you didn't say I didn't run. Of course I didn't one. You know, I'm not even run. I eskate like that. It was then and what you're conscious of the person you was swinging that or you just I knew. I knew it was because he was walking up to me like I got you now. And in my mind, I'm like, these niggas gonna stop a bone out my ass. After this, I thought I was gonna get sucked out. I made the conscious decision like even if they fucked me up, this nigga is gonna understand I ain't on to play with like what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm gonna going. I'm gonna go out on mons. And they happened to let me get away, you know, And I ain't like I just punched it get I'm still stayed. For two or three minutes after the sitting, it was like, oh, ship escape route and we got the funk up out of it because they was chasing the wrong nigga. What happened? It was all chasing the wrong and they get first. It was like the nigga, they was chasing another nigga. Swear to God, if you look, you see everybody chasing another nigga until what nigga was like, no, he's still. Then they started regrouping this ship. That's when I was like, it's trying to get the funk up out of here. So what was the first time you said this? That was the second time. This was the second incident. What was the first ti It was in the club, and I knew I had the problem with the nigga because now because you wasn't dead, when true life is burning the CDs, wasn't that okay? Yeah, but that was It wasn't about the CDs. It was about when when to life robbed them niggas over that verse ship over the ship with the verse. It wasn't even about to see these because we had a stack of c ds. It wasn't just a mall beef c D. It was we went to the bootleggers and like, give us the whole stack, and we burned the whole fucking stack. I mean, nobody was singling them niggers out. They just happened to be in a stack. And what I'm saying it was really over that Beef DVD where where they showed where and yeah, yeah, yeah, it was all the basketball exactly. That's what that ship was over. So I bumped and like I said, me and you had a relationship. So I see him in the club when with Sycamore at the time, again a Sycamore, that's my little broke and I'm like, yo, fam, like like I go to try to dap him up and his man one of the big niggers around him, just like I'm like, he ain't say nothing. I waiting for him to be like nah, like let's talk because I'm like, Fam, like I ain't y'all beef is y'all beef my nigga. You know what I'm saying, Well, you do understand how he could have took it if you know that person, you're right, right, because I just imagine, yeah, way, but you know me and but me and he got a relationship, so me, you know what I'm saying, That's that's how that's how I was coming to him. I'm like, fam, like, you know what I'm saying, Like if we could have talked sometimes communication, get your father, that's what we need to learn that. And I learned how to grow up and become a man to learn that ship something like yo, you know what. So once he was like he got on some rob. I'm like, let's go outside, my nigga, like we can we could box. No, I can fight nigga, like you want to fight, motherfucker, Like we could fight. I told the nigga and Samore, I said, I'll fight any one of your nigga's straight up one back, just don't jump me. I'll fight any one of you, the big nigga, the small niggative, ugly nigg in the back, fight any one of your And then was like, yo, we don't fight nigga. We don't do that. And his man had a hammer. When I've seen this man, his man showed the hammer. When I seen that, comes like, I you know what I'm saying, Just no, just no. 'alliggas don't want to fight. Yeah, nigga ain't got no guns. So you got it. And that was that. And then then the second incident was at the S O B Ship. Now this is where Compona Noriega comes back. This is how come back and to the site, so boom. Now now you know how Atlantic Records this is. I'm a brand new artist. I ain't have my deal. Now you're in Atlantic. Ye to come on, baby, we got the jay Z remix already, so we're trying to just let the regular ship bubble and make it look like it got so hot Jay hopped on the remix that we already had the verse and Ola. And that's funny because I played the ship for e Bro and they just used to always be like, yeah, why you funk with E Bro? He's a sucker. I like, nah, Hero cool, I was, Yeah, I used to beat the nigga for this nigga. Like y'all bugging now that nigga is a sucker. I'm like, nah, man, Hero was a good nigga. That's me like a fucking dummy, So yeah, cover the nigga did to me. So Bro fucking calls Atlantic and was like, Yo, Sigon was involved in the altercation s obs at a Hot ninety seven event and he's banned from the Hot ninety seven four years. We can't play nothing. Atlantic was like, what that's all they give a about his radio up there? If you ain't on the radio. We weren't on the box, and that nigga would say, they're not working with you. So I called ebro. I said, I'm a new artist, one nigger, I'm a brand new artist. Bro, doing this is like cutting it. You might as well just suck sucking my ship up right now. I'm like, bro number one. Nobody got hurt. It was a little scuffle. No police didn't come. Niggas performed after that, Yo my g. Every time he sat my G. I wanted to slap the nigga through the phone my nigga, Yo my G. Yeah right, but oh my god, Yo, Yo, I'm like fan doing this ship's you're killing me Bro. The nigga goes, Yo, it's policy ax ax component Oria, I said. The niggas shot out of the definitely yeah yo Yo. I was like, yo, this is what your niggas. But I said, fan. First of all, I wasn't the seven. I was s OBEs like I didn't Yeah, I didn't see a good point, bro, yeah seven. He compared it to what your niggas did, and I said, Yo, I was walking out of your mind. Let me stop you right there. I let you leave. Brother. I wasn't jaid, by the way, I was not there. I was not there. I was not there, but continue know I was in West Highway. But I actually had a rhyme to keep it real. I said I wasn't there, but if I wasn't, been a lot more yeah going off than it was. I actually got a rhyme where I said that I got another bar. You guys want to ask you about okay, okay right now, or you want to build it up, build it up like got sometimes because of Vincent and his ship that hit me on and you know, he's a great guy and my nickname for him is Lamborghini and what's going on. So when he said that, I was like, you got now seems like it's personal, bro, because you gotta look at it like this, My nigga, you you know the importance of I said I worked. I went as far as saying, hero, I worked my whole life to get here. Man, I worked my whole life, and you don't have the jay Z versus this point. Yeah, I played it for him personally, He's gonna look at this and be played the form in the hand. Wait a minute, my nigga, he knew you had a jay Z version and I watched this right now and staid, a good, good good, where's the campra, nigga, you're lucky and you're lucky. Something ain't happened to your suck ass. Because I was the nigger. It was vouching for this nigger. Everybody was like, you funk with that suck ass. You know what you're saying. He fronted on the jay Z version, Bro, he took me off the red. He fronted on any song your whole career that you're okay, And I got banned from the radio for a year when they played Devil's Advocate ahead they did ban us niggas was let hot knocking niggas. Yeah, that's the whole different. In his defense, I can't see our incident is an incident. How my nigga held do that? The higeros don't even know that should happened. You're paying attention. But I can see his position at the time. Now I'm just being paying advocate. But I can see is they're just looking at violence is being violenced. That's the one thing I learned. But the media bust. Now, let me double your devils out what violence is violence? But but what about when you're defending yourself and then the tape shows you're walking off peacefully and then Nigga grabbed you from the back. Whatever, what am I supposed to be like? Ship, I wouldn't defend myself. What a hot nineties seven that was? That was our story too, I'll just benderstand And we couldn't say that to the fens. Is that snitches, So we had to say that's the only hot thing. He said was like, y'are figuring when the fens can. I'm sorry right now, it's very true. It wasn't. Yeah, I'm not saying he wasn't treated Pauli when I was saying it. I'm kind of glad that people was treated back thinking it was just me like what I was saying. So when the cable seeing that they wasn't with me at all, they was like, oh, you're a troublemaker, nigga. You out here, you can't get on the radio. So they was like nigga and it was against mom Deep and mom Deep had a reprotation to being the troublemakers and you trouble making. His troublemaker and true life and the supreme troublemaker at the time, so he was in trouble all the time. So it was like, oh, this thing is a liability. You know what I'm saying. He and we ain't putting the wing, pumping the moment, and he's trying to make positive ship because they didn't want me making a positive music. That's the good thing about you, right, that's the best thing they hated that ship. Your balance. Yeah, I love your balance, like I love the fact that I can listen to you and I could want to punch a person in the face and the time, you know what I'm saying that because you understand that being together. But that's why I compared to the pocket. I know when I was saying the other thing that's the most thing that I got from POC was Park was conscious enough to say we gotta stand together. What's the conscious enough to say, as we're standing together, if you step on my toe to the duality and said, I might want you yea, And that's what's crazy. But that's actually yeah, that's the story. That's been a story of my life. Bro. I was never all the trouble I used to get in. It's because somebody was taking my kindness for weakness. And then nigger would be like oh, this nigga smile too fucking much, or this niggas you know what I'm saying. He said, pleasing, thank you way too much. Nigga. My mother gave me many ladies, and I going to be one of those guys. And people instead of people appreciating that ship, they look at it and go, oh, this nigga must be soft, this nigga must be pussy. And I got a lie. I was not gonna look the outside of looking at him. Everyone in this room could probably look in your face and say you don't have the pussy guy face, but it might have been your ago. I don't know, man, because I don't see anybody can look at in this room and say how this guy looks. He has to looks like a pussy, you know. I don't. Oh, I cut this ship out, Dougie Fresh, Okay, okay, I look bad. It was like a guy like, yeah, I can dig his pocket, I can talk to him and and and once people realize I wasn't that guy's kind of like did some ship that was extreme and I put jam myself up. So that's where the duality come from. When I got into music, But because I did so much fucked up ship in the street. I used to I used to act bad guard and I made a promise to God when I was in prison. I said, God, you do get me. Let me out of here first, because you know you could. You can die in that motherfucker easily. I'm like, if you get me out of here and you let them get on, it's just rap ship. I'm not gonna kick that ship, just sending niggers in here. I'm a kid because I used to listen to speaking the mob dep when I needed to say to all the killers in a hundred dollar billings. When I'm a little fifteen year old kid, I'm ready to grip up. Know I'm saying, I'm like, real, niggas, you ain't got no feelings. I ain't got no feelings because ipssim, nigga, how is your idels becoming your rivals? How? I mean like, because I just had to ask that question through. I went through it with sticky fingers. I went through it with so many of these niggas. He's pussy, He's super pussy. These niggas are pussy, bro, These niggas are pussy. Though this is the thing, let me not say pussy because that sound they soft. They soft, my nigga, they soft. Because this is why. Then that's why I said, because number one is true and number two is like any any nigga who has that kind of you know, you got that kind of influence, you're gonna pull that ship back, especially when you see ship happening, like oh ship, my songs is getting I had a song come again, like saying come again. That song in Connecticut was getting niggas with like let me perform it, and it was like I'm like, why can't They was like, cause nigga starts shooting when that ship come on, they start wilding. So that made me mindful enough to not make no ship like that. I didn't want to be responsible for a nigga getting killed because of my music. I didn't look at that ship like my niggas get hyped and turn up and start that. I didn't feel proud about that ship. I was like, damn, I don't want to be there with some innocent body. Something they start shooting, some girls is shot in the neck, or some dumb ship happened, or a little kid gets shot. Because I don't want to be responsible for that. So that's what that's another thing that made me toned down. But at the same time, you know, but but but that's the thing. I don't know why, but it would happen there. Oh, because I said some you know, the Murder Dog magazine. I did an article and I was saying, I was telling the nigga how I grew up listening to a lot of niggas and their music was so influential it made me do dumb ship and I throw your guns was another one. My nigga, I wasn't like, nigga that ship you started the video and all, and they got the crooked I'm watching this as a little kid like this nigga's a killer. Know what I'm saying. He got you know they that's it looks so real and and that's why I said, I know the power of music. The power of music is so something go wrong because we we did it. We ended up doing a show because I did an interview and the nigger was like, Yo, my niggas has been brought to my attention. You have to fun to say about my group. I was like, yeah, I said a few things, you know what I'm saying. He was like, were Switzerland, I'm going to show you feel like you got this we're doing. We're doing the show. Me let me back up a little bit. We're doing a show in Switzerland, and we both want the bill. This is a fucking we want to describe Switzerland. Yeah, probably one of the best. I love beautiful place. I'm gonna just say that. Continue. Yeah, yeah, it is beautiful. But when we one of the nice hotels with ain't nothing, but we're the only black skin and everybody's whit white, white, white, winter white. They look at Donald Trump like you two aren't. Yeah. So I see the nigger and and he approaches me and ship like you know, I heard you had some things to say about my group and ship, and so I guess the gym. I just feel like I was in the gym. Now, we was in the We was in the lobby and ship, and I'm like, you know, I said some things like I ain't gonna I ain't gonna backcut on, don't throw a rocket, hid my hands, nigger, Yeah, I said some ship. So he's like, yo, we don't take night, we don't take you know, he got the voice on and ship, we don't take nicely this ship like that, I'm like, fam check this out. Because he started getting a little too too much, too much moving, So I said, yo, you're staying in this hotel? He said yeah. I said, well I got a room here, You got a room here. We can go. We can go handle this like men like we can. We even gotta do all of this ship and and be beat the niggas making yell. Now we started to get to a point, so I'm like, if you want to fight, that's what I told I always offer a nigger the fan one. I'm a jail nigger, Like, we can let's do the shoot the five and then we can take it from there. And we ain't gotta always the other day with me. You gotta respect you shot it. They liked the nigger picture to try to trying to like that that dislikeded me and then come and try to give me a five. I said, you gotta leave. I kicked m out of his and then when he came it came uman want to fight, like immediately jumped up and he was like, no, I don't want to fight Poppy because they think I'm nor I'm not. Continue. So that's exactly what he did. I guess he thought I was gonna cour and when I didn't cower, I'm like, fam, we could, we could, we can get this ship off our chest. And we got a problem, Like that's this is easy. You stand in this hell, tell me in to let's box, nigger like, and then we can. Nigga was like, you know you drink, fan, this is the funny part of this ship, Like where are you going with this? Yeah? I drink, Like, let's go to Boston. And then Nigga bought me drinks all night. So while he buying me drinks, I'm like, you could have approached me like this and getting it. But what about it just slapped you Like he came with me on some r R ship And when he said I was when he seen that I was willing to take it there. He wanted to go have a drink. We could have had a drink from the red you know what I'm saying. And this is the thing with these niggas. It's like because these niggas are rappers, like you said, I'm not. I just happened to not a rap good. I love it, But I fucking the ship, the ship I've been through, the ship that I the work. I put it in the street, my nigga, I know good and well, it might be one of two of these niggas who who went down that road and you wanted them. I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, it's not a lot of it's not a lot of how conflicted it is right for you? Right specifically because you actually have not as yourself. You can listen to you and you know that you read books, you know, you know wife from room, you know that you know everything that's going on. How hard was it not? Not now? Because I imagine now you gotta be super super wise wise, But from back then, was you ever dealing with a conflicted conflict like you know? Yeah? Yeah, That's why I named myself Saigon Bro, because Saigon was a war torn city. Saigon was a city in Vietnam. That's where that's where the name comes from and and where America invaded. Yeah, like fact, but the black soldiers over there was like yo, the Vietcong. The natives used to tell the black soldiers, like, yo is killing us for Yeah, not only home, go go go home to where they don't even treat They treat you like ship. You're a fighting for a country to hate your ass to treat you like ship, and you will and kill us for a country because it was us. It was over there putting in the work, you know what I'm saying. It was us getting super busy, you know, like we do. So they're like, yo, what the funk a y'all, what are y'all doing? The you don't even got rights? You're drinking out of dirty water fantains and ship you can't even go to you know what I mean, you ain't got So a lot of them motherfuckers stayed there. They a walled out there on me. They never came back to America. This motherfucker's still there right now. Who's probably all age, a little older, who's mixed with black and you know what I mean, black and Vietnamese. You know, it's a crazy ship. When I went to Asian countries and ask me how they treated the black man, like God always always best with me. They're following you down the street like we're like, we're like anxiety. Sorry, you know you know how so look, you know we don't get said, well, who the c c different? You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm sorry, I'm married, so you know it's real. But you know what I mean like that's how they look at you. And then you go to Japan, You're like they'd be just looking at you. You're thinking like they they don't even know the world racist. At this time when I was going, they were just looking at me like I was a specimen. You feel like a positive energy and energies, like oh my god, thinking about digging your mouth. It was great, It's wonderful. You feel like black man, not a Russia them. Remember that I thought it was gonna die together. Were in Russians, y'all. Remember the time he was going up the stairs and there's a Russian soccer game going down. I just looked like we had a great one. He was not gonna make it out. By the way, they're sold racist in Russia at this time that they won't even make eye contact with They'll just look straight, they say, got and just look straight. I'm sorry. Differently say you've never been a Russia. Thank god, let's make noise you'd never be in the rush the work that we we gotta try to Russia in general, because it's just down. When when their crew was against Russist against racist, which when you know, landing wrong, when the dude spies is saying rusts against racist and you're like, when the is going on, we got the wrong joints was heavy. But so yeah, so that's the ship man finger. Yeah, that's that's where he was at Sticky And then you know it wasn't even that big of a deal. I just it just it's just an example. And I used him because of how influenced I was by him. That's the only is why I use it. Ain't like I'm I'm I'm picking like picking on the nigga that you love. That's why I hate. That's why I hate gangster rap to this day. I hate that guy. Hate gangster rap because it's it is. It's stupid. It's part of the reason why we don't grow when they like it marginalizes us. We're more than gangsters the gangster movies. We don't. They keep telling the same mob tales over and over. How about Wakanda. Let's stop for a second. Home we just passed. I want everyone to be quiet. Just give him a fifteen seconds of ready called the father baby, it's crazy. You got to take a picture with you. Right, we met, We bumped into him in Hollywood on the premier Right, you know how you know the premiere when you go on Instagram, you see how many people talk good about this guy. You know, you know what the selfish ship was for me. So it's immediately I thought, who's gonna play black Pants? That's selfish of me, right, that's kind of self kids, it's very selfish. Who's gonna play? But I want black Printing too? Who canna play him? Now? Y'all? I don't know. They bet not gonna get Westley's nights old as for that, they've been not do that. It could be the villain Brad. Don't we know he didn't already film something. They already find what I wanted somebody to say, that's what I wanted somebody to say, we filmed until said they knew he had that for four years that he's been showing, knowing that he never to keep it, not to get into something. Yeah, yeah, he was fighting for four years. Is that bad or good? Now? I mean I think it's good because you don't want I think it's good that he and he was visiting cancer patients pictures of him but not saying that he had it, because now you go, now look like now you see you gonna get the sympathy, and then that ship might start wearing on your win on your head, because I think a lot of that ship is your mind. Bro, That's why I'm in the age. Be like, yo, you gotta go get tested for cancer. I'm like, nah, man that, because then they tell me I got it, that's what's gonna probably kill me. I'd rather just not wake up one that they tell you. You know, I'm gonna tell you something. I was up knowing for the nigga, and they told the nigga he as my nigger. They told me at age he was HIV positive. The nigga started losing weight, start getting skinny, start looking sick, all that ship. Nigga's like, oh ship, so I'm about to die for whatever happened. They made a mistake. They told the nigger, yo, you should keep coming back negative. We fucked up, walked up. Yeah, we funked up. We gave you the wrong diagnosis. And the nigga was literally his mind was killing him. Bro, the stress Please say that story again. I'm sorry, even not even listeners and the followers. Yeah, that's a fact. I was up and off with the nigga. He was a nap. I think and yeah it was nat. They told the nigger he had HIV, he had aged. The nigga was a healthy nigga. Big he started stressing so much and stressing now about his life. Nigga started to think he had it, thinking he had the monkey on his fucking back, start getting skinny, and all that ship coming seeks cheeks, looking like he was gonna be looking like he was dying to the point we're like, oh, any day now and then and then he comes that pops up that this nigger never had it. It made the mistake, y'all, and then he started dying. Yeah. Man, tricks the body tricks about your mind. Mine mind controls everything, Monega, Your mind controls everything. The same way you look at a female asked and your dick get hard. That's your mind telling your your dick. You attracted to that, and then you you're like, ship, there's many guys here have this covers smacking. Bro, here, you gotta be careful. Yeah, that's the fact. And so that's why when you're dealing with mine, when you're dealing with the powers of the mind, that ship is crazy, bro, pull them up too, Like, here's the only place somebody walked up to me. It's like, yeah, you want some steroids. Like it's like you ever got open steroids in it? I feel hey, man, it wasn't open the steroids at the same time, and like, you know, you're just walking around out here. They're crazy. Come on, you got your shot, man, and I don't been seeing your shots been poured and I did I didn Alright, cool, Solo, this is because listen, so I go. We don't know if you know, but we celebrate our artists over here, so many people. You got that. First of all, let me say it's an honor be up here, not not for you. First of all, you one of my favorite hip hop artists all the time. Thank you. That's why I got a question for you this right, cool, cool, Let's say the shot first, Salo. Come on, you know, I'm not trying to be funny, but this is always something I always wondered in the back of my mind. All right, I'm ready. Tragedy Kadafi, Right, I understand a little bit, man, go wherever you want to go. I understand. Like he y'all started off with with with with tragedy. You know, Kadi has been in the game since we was babies. And ship and but when y'all got into your little beef, you said something in the line it just may be, like I wonder if this is true or not. You said, when I met this cat, he was eating veggie burger? Was he really was wrong with you? But the way he flip that when I met this guy, he was eating veggie burgers. They ain't talking about murder. That made me look for I was like, damn, I just don't. I don't know this because I want to answer this because me and Trash we've been through so much. I want to answer this honestly, and I want to answer this truthfully. When I first met Trash, he was Muslim, um orthodox Muslim, So you know what I mean? Was the white crown tell you? Yeah, I don't know about it was it was It was so in my mind here at that time, like that I was a kid. I was you know, that was like, that's really like the power of music. Because when you said that, I just kept about it was I seeing the nigger. I wanted this. By the way, Trash, that's what this day I love track. You got a show called on the Child, Yeah, I like as a show off. Forget the other show. But he's doing this yn't go through so much, and we still continue to go through so much. But it's loved there. And I'm just answering your question. You you answered that, so you asked me that it wasn't it wasn't really No, No, I mean in my mind, if you wouldn't ask me if it's real, Yeah, because that's what I thought people in all white eight at that time. I just tought to everyone, you know, when you see people doing something, you're doing something. To the end to this day, I see people are white though, like they're vegan. You know what I'm saying. I'm saying I'm definitely not vegan. Vegan ship wasn't popping back. This is not it's not now now everybody, everybody, but back then, back then, it was like a slight dis Yeah, exactly, That's what. Yeah, I was trying to like, I was just you tell your home you veggie Burger, not not veggie whapper. Yes, today, goddamnit from a birthday an you don't like them, that is that I'm eating meat, but you know you ain't even eating You don't know what then you don't know what, don't know what, you don't know what the possible to tell what is impossible? Yeah, I even impossible to know what the same thing about the whole vegan ship, right, I ain't here, but people people that are, and you know, niggers really want to eat me because they try to make everything taste like me. So you really want to eat what I'm saying. Look it tastes just like me. Nigga eat something talking to me. So my whole thing is like, all right, we know we're all gonna die. When my mother used to say, as soon as you're born, you start dying, right, and that's that's that's that's a fact. The second you're born, you start dying. So you're telling me, I'm gonna deprived myself for really what I want to eat so I could probably live like four more years. I ain't doing that something. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm not. That's what Like a lot of people who I know who done Heroin, they said the same thing, because I would have deprived myself getting this eyes I could get. No, that's a whole different theory that's gonna kill you quick ain't been proven. I keep your scientific with you. I can't eat a bergen d like, and he's stinking be like I'm gonna does a tribute to colon cancer ship like that, like giving him a jail will be sipping in killing definitely. By the way, let me pick what's running up. I'm in the bing right this being, and I keep seeing this this. This wasn't cat who got he got twenty four months, got he got straight, two years in the bank, and he keeps seeing me in there for two, three, four or six months coming back. So dude says to me one day, you're savage. I hated that word savage because I was cool with the god bodies. I knew what he meant by it, and I said, what, I don't eat pork, said anything that makes you other than yourself cigarettes all. So he told me try not to eat a burger. I got out the bang, I didn't eat a burger. I didn't have a fight. Two or three weeks later, I ate a burger right back in the motherfucking banger, right of course from right you know said you ate a burger, didn't you, And now you like you said it earlier? My mind if this might only work for me, But this might only work for me. Animal instance, when I when I indulge those type of meats, I always fight. So no, not that's true because it might just be for me. This might not work for the sister. That's something behind it. But I kick you when I stopped eating beef, I stopped being his body. Yeah, I kick you because they pumped. Think about it. Think about this right a nigga order you go to spot, you order order of wings? How many wings you get? Eight? So that's the least if you get wings, because I want to stop you if you're just man, hey man battles. I want. But the whole thing is like, okay, eight wings. Is a chicken got two wings, So that's the least four chickens right there. Think about all the order things going on all over the world. You're telling me this is this ship is genetically modified. You only this little wings. You do one thing about going to Europe? The first thing I want to go to Europe. They had the little chickens and the little cows. That's said, hey, your chickens and cows, and he said, no, mother, your chickens and cows are sick because the cows like this looks like chicken like that. You know, a free range chicken means that means they're supposed to have the range to be free to go wherever they to rome. Yeah, yeah, to be natural. But we're supposed to be able to check it out. But technically they can give a nigger four feet and if you could walk in and out that four feet, they could label on a product line. Organic too is a bunch of bulls. Bullshit, it's all marketing. Ship tearing me up. Yeah, they thinking they're eating good. You showing the store. You're paying more for that ship too, Like, no, I got the free range. Yeah, they're killing man. Don't we pay extra? Yeah, they're still giving, Like anybody, grow your own, you know what you're put in your body, My nigga, stick you in True at a former group, Well, I was, I was like, remember I said, I know, I know, I don't true since were teenagers, so we always was close from huh and yeah. So when when he got his deal and ship and so it was like, yo, nigga, we're gonna My first song I recorded that that really made noise was a song called Bust your Guns with Me and True Life and True made to beat. I Ain't he ed? True was the fuck fun that nigga. Nigger, that's what I call him. That nigga, Yo, This nigg got some beat your funk, that nigga. We don't need that nigga beats yo. This nigga deal. Yeah, And you know what, he's one of the kindest, nicest, motherfucking guys in the world. But he got one little line. If you cross that ship, this nigger got like a hair trigger, like he'll give you the true will give you the fucking shirt off his back. My nigga, who was a great, great, great guy. His name stands for the righteous united living, the righteous united those living in the fantasy environment. That's the acronym for his name. And how did y'all say, y'all, Matt, we know we met. I was in prison. I was a teenager. Somebody who knew he rapped put me on the phone with a nigger. So we our friendships started over to Jack, you know what I'm saying. So he like, when you get home, son, I'm fu I'm like sixteen seventeens. Oh, where was that? That was the first time you met him? He was in President spoke to him and then when they was on the run, they was at my crib money they stepped when when when when they caught that body problem? Now they went to jail for it. They called down, they did they time, okay, But when I said when I hold it happened, they came. They came right to Damn. I did the clapp of it. I'm sorry, Now, I can't be doing that. We can't do that. Yeah, we understand, but you know what I mean. I took I took your clap. Usually do that part. But yeah, but but when it went But when And that's the funny he was talking about that because when when the niggas, when it happened him and his brother, they came to my crib and ship because the niggas police was kicking down every door the way they thought these niggas would be. And I you know, I had some ship up in the woods. So I'm like, yo, we just come to lay low here. And I'm seeing him talking to nigger. I'm like, damn, so look God, look at the look at the the difference. Like now you know you're probably gonna go and do some time and I'm gonna be out here and now I gotta be holding you down because true, he stole me down. When I was up there, you know what I'm saying. So it was like that was that that that that was a sad time. That's why when the Niggas came home and and adapted and got he got back to where he wanted to be. And not just him but his brother Mark. You know what I'm saying, but those are my doesn't didn't you come home and just drop his jay z and he got jay Z and os records, He got fatch over, he's still got I'm like, what are you sitting on the easy him and yeah, I like, yeah, you're the best guy, and he sat on that ship. I would have boot like the ship out of myself. You know what he said when I asked the mine fu Niggas man, I would have dropped it. He's the fold you fucking Japan. Yeah, like you don't even gotta like that, And it would have sued him. Everybody loved True Man. Everybody loved one thing about True Life, True Life, even when the whole Jim Jones ship was happening. I met Jim Jones to True Life before they even got We used to sit and have dinner with them. To the two niggas was cold. They was friends that's why I when ship went south, I used to be then. I used to try to be the voice of reason. Like yo, they say nothing you can fix and ship like niggas man, he get on that the biggest ship, the biggest and that's and that's how he is. But he's like, he got a harder goal, manigger, he got a harder goal. And he's a nicer. He's the nicest. You're the nicest people. I know. He's just he's just not to be played with. And that's the thing, the reason why we get we we like minded in that way. You know, I'm a nigga that I hate. I used to hate bullies growing up. Man. I remember there was this kid in my school named Jamal. Nigga was dirty, smells like peeing ship and yeah, niggas a teaser. I got more fights over this nigger then over my own self. He was your friend. Ye I didn't even know. I didn't when am I just when Nigga was teasing him and be like, you know, leaving the funk alone. What I'm saying, Jamal wasn't a bully. He was being able to was being bullied, yeah, because he because you know, he didn't have you know his family was man Paul. He had a new clothes you know what I mean. He used to come to school with you know, hand me downs and ship and nigga you know niggas would and I got in like four or five fights over this kid and me and this kid probably never said more than three words to each other. It feels like for sure, Nah, this was Newberg. That's now, that's New Burger. Is the worst place in New York state. Bro, you don't want to go to Newberg. That's where the kid party party Fontaine is from. That's a little ass town city and Risk County. No, no, no, no, no, no, that's above Yonkers. Yeah, that's that's that's like Chester. That's like not Orange Orange County, Orange County, California. Nah, you went too far. It's like it's not but not like Newburg. Newburg, My nigga, I ain't got I don't. It's the only place that got robbed, nigga, Brownsville. I lived in Brownsville. I lived all over Brooklyn, bench Style, Flatbush. I got robbed in Newberg. Money. I'm talking about twelve noon. I'm like, why, First, I think I feel like in the past, na bro, I want to pick up my little sister, my nigga and niggas to get your little system in front of the theydn't kid didn't give they knew what all that, They didn't even fun This is a method. Yeah, it's little brother, godless soul, my little brother, God bless his soul. Overdose on dust. And I've never heard this in my life. Twenty years old, twenty year old kidney. They found him in the alleyway in the church. Found him in the alleyway in the church in the rain. And it always it always made me wonder, like was he going to that church to like find God or some ship because they found him at the church, Like, yeah, they found the nigga is dead in the church and early in the morning, somebody's walking by it was raining, and they've seen him, seen him laid out. And the thing is my mom had already passed away, God bless her soul. So his whole funeral arrangement and all that ship and what they used to call me and be like yo, I mean you're talking about some motherfucker's with no no heart. Because it's their business. Niggas will call me and be like yo, I just I never had to. I never seen this Nigga's birth certificate, but I here I am with his death certificate, which is crazy. They used to call me and be like, yo, what you want us to do with the body? Man starting to stink in like like like like this nigga wasn't a human being. And I used to be like, what do I usually do? I don't know nothing about the process of burying somebody, especially come yeah, this is yeah, this is this is four years ago, this is recently. You know what I'm saying. So they leave it all up to me. So I gotta do the whole memorials. So I'm trying to get family together, and I'm seeing this ship like yo, man, this this new berkship. Nice to tell my mother, like, Mom, you gotta get out of here. Like I never made it to the point where I was able to move her out because I was working around. I would get money and then blow it. I put in an apartment, can't can't finish, you can't finish paying for it, so she like, I had to go with somewhere where I could afford the rent. And that's the reason why I'm so crazy. Anywhere you put whether Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, Brownsville, East New York. Anywhere you put where it's fucked up ship at it's the most porous places. That's that's the common denominator. Yeah, that's upstate. Like with with Prinzelda, niggas buffalo, you have been a buffalo money them niggas give it up up. You go up there thinking here, this is upstairs on the border Rochester. The niggas got so many unsolved murders up there, and they're right by Detroit. But this just like fucking Detroit, my nigga. They're closer to Detroit than they are to us. So the niggas. So the niggas over there lived like that, My nigga. They when they say the niggas give it up up there, they give it up. Bro. Me and this nigga went up there, did a show up there. Bitches had us climbing through the window. My nigga, We backed some bitches in the club. These bitches is like, YO, come to our crib. We go with the bitches. They're like, yeah, we ain't got our key. So they're like, Yo, what we're gonna through. They're like, YO, want youall climbed through the window. So I'm like, yo, this is not a good idea, son. We don't know these business We're just snagging the hood like I want some pussy. But y'all trip, y'all your weight hiding. Yeah, guess what Spider Man niggers climbing up the wall like this. I'm like, man, you're gonna fall. You're like, get I'm just dead ass. And we smacked. You know, when you wan the hood, you're a nigga from the hood, and I want where you acting. You know, when you're in the hood. Pretty much SA, it's pretty much the same everywhere. The potholes, the junkies ain't the Yeah, the ship stinks. You're like, oh, we we're death smacking the ghetto and these bitches wasn't even bad like you said, we was triple h yeah. And so so when you go through these when you go through these changes in life, man, that's the reason why I always felt a sense of responsibility and music because I'm like, damn, I'm at the opportunity to talk to and they always say hip hop us for the kids. You know, that's kids, that's the kids ship. So we if we're gonna if This ship is for the kids for real, like we say it is. What are we telling the future? We don't tell these Shoot gang bang, go gang bang, Go go go go, go fuck as many bitches as you can and catch some ship you can't get rid of. Go you know what, man, Go go go funk up the minds of these young women and act like you really care about them when you just try and get some pussy and funk up their mind. Once that happens to a woman, three or four times, they stopped trusting men and they get sucked up in the mind. You ever meet the best have been hurt like four times, and you do one thing, you're like nigga, like all on because they don't been through that ship so much. And one little sign of you being like Tyrrell or Nikawn or they did some fucked up ship and she got you pegged. And then they grow up and they become scorned. They scoring women, And we're responsible for a lot of that ship. We all my nigga, because we know what we feel. And then we meet a bit she had thought she did she that that? Well, when we were responsible for that, When are we gonna fucking step up as black men? And say all right, man, we gotta do better. God damn man, know right, I'm gonna stop up and say we gotta do better. It's easy to point fingers and be like, all that bitches a whole. That bitches that that bitch is that. First of all, you don't even know how this girl grew up. Man. She might have had she might not have fallen in her life. You know what I'm saying. She had a baby. You're right, You're absolutely correct, and we and that Brenda had a baby. That's a great example of why why I like tupockets and artists. Because if he made that record, and if he made Dead Mama today, they'd be like, we ain't working with that. If he made other fucking they wouldn't sunk with that today. If he may keep your head up today, they'd be like, nah, that ain't it. All the records in the last ten years wouldn't work. I'm gonna let you finish before stop you because the records were not They wouldn't even sunk with the records. But here's the crazy shit about you. Right, I'm gonna change subject a little because that's what we drinks. You might have been on the best television show ever. Then also on the worst television show ever. Would you like to start from the best of the worst, sir, the best being in the best game first, Okay, let's start for the best. That entrepagee is the property. Let me just tell you something, bro, when I see you, I thought for that. I thought for that. This is one of my best television shows. Every pulled pulled turtle over to the ship. It was all type of crazy ship. All right, how does this happen? Did you go to what the fun enowarch is already? It's art, you go for the road or it's not. Let nobody, nobody even knows what it is? Season one, this is not came season two season so they were shooting. So I'm not even excited about the ship. Yeah, I'm just thinking whatever. Only the only thing excitement I had was so this is even though he's not really in it, it's his ship, so it's about his life. It's so it's Lucy based on his life. So there's a chance to ship my pop. So g Robinson is the one who got me to see the best and hip hop. I ain't a lot of the niggas. They they silent assassins. Bro ain't give me no money, but I like, like, like, I love you all anyway, though didn't give me no money, like managing no no no, got the bad but I watch sometimes you just got to be in direct bag and they just get back is back and sometimes got you. Okay, So he got me the audition and ship it was between me and Young Jesus, and yeah, can you imagine that it could be like your turn between me and Young Jeez for the part, you know what I'm saying real, And so when I go out there on audition, I'm thinking, Ship, I'm not really an actor, and if they fucking me, they suck with me. That's Young Jeez in the room. And this is I'm not gonna this is the other X because he was he was brand new at the time. I'm saying that, I'm saying he didn't show up, so you like, he probably didn't show up, but okay. One of the exacts told me she was like, yeah, they were looking for a new artist is up and coming, So it's between you and this guy named Young Jeezy. So they didn't even know who he wasn't the star yet. This is before Soul Survivor really all that should really cracked. I know him from Street Ship, you know I'm saying because Ka slavey. Yeah, I know him before when he just had Trapper die, and you know what I'm saying, he wasn't the star yet they wanted somebody who was on the brink, you know what I'm saying. So I get the part and ship, but nobody really knows the show is gonna be a hit. I knew it. No nobody knew. Four dudes some quez in Hollywood it's gonna work. Continue. So I'm sorry, I get that. Yeah, I get the part, and I just told I told the writer, I said, yo, can you write They had me some funny name. I forgot the name, but I was like, yo, can you write me in the Saigon? Keep keep my my real rap name. So, which was a gift and the curse. As much as it worked, the chip backfired. I kind of wish I were mc G because so the show comes out and then right after gate first season ships popping. So now I know that ship is in the bag, already filmed it. I'm like, oh shoot, I'm on season two because they had shot season two while they was for a second, so as season one starts to pump up you already has that's how the white people doing. Look, there was already filming season two. They knew they had a hit, and they had though they were right. They were right. They're definitely right. So now now I'm starting getting exciting, like, oh ship, everybody's talking about this show. So now this is when I'm still have a bit of a I'm still on Atlantic. This is after the Ebro ship and all that, but I'm still on Atlantic. So I go to Atlantic. I go, look, this time, the music with this fucking show can't go wrong. So they was, it's the best promo in the fucking world. So they was like it might be right. So I gonna We're gonna give you some more budget. You know how they played the budget. Put you back in the studio, even though you're fucked up and funked up with that last he broke ship. We're gonna put you back in the studio. I go back in the studio. My hearteaded, ask is still on some we gotta save the children. John, you know what you're gonna make? What kind of records are gonna make? I'm making regular believe it. You gotta believe it is about saving the children. Again. I'm like, bro, I'm sticking to the script. What I'm saying. I'm too I'm too into deep to this show. I put out Pain in my Life already. I put out Color Purple about the gang violence and ship. Instead I didn't believe it. Yeah, I gotta believe it. Baby already came out, Come on Babies already, Verse Real already came out. That wasn't out. I gotta relax, but believe it was. I thought it was. That song ended up being It ended up being Lived your Life because Just Blaze roll or three of them songs and it end up being fucking When Just Blaze wrote all three of them songs, you gotta be very careful. Everybody's gonna think that Just Blaze he didn't write there. But the only thing, the only thing he really didn't write was their verses. But he made the beat and he came up with the melodies in the which sells the song. That's what sells the song. Just adverse. It's like, and they canna give you a hit and just say just adverse. I know, I know t I had the idea for um live your Life with I mean with Rihanna song. Yeah, that's the one, right, Yeah, that's the one. Listen to my song. You gotta believe who that listen to may No song to go? Yeah? Whoa just Blaze sent back just like so I gonna watch I'm gonna do it again. I'm gonna remake believe it again. It's gonna be a hit, and I'll go, you bullshit. He does it again. It's a hit again. And I'm like, look at these motherfuckers because we did it first. It was first and it was like nah, then t Paine try to charge eight k. You know. Paine charged me eighty thousand to do the fun and we already had the ship wrote, just wrote it already. But after you do a song with jay Z, like everybody think you got it. But I'm a brand new water. So I'm like, that's my years. So if you got a jay Z versus, I ain't gonna do you know. Do you know how I got to jay Z vers No one knows this. Some people know because that it ain't just like he was but this story he was into. Right now, let's finish that story first. They give me another shot, and I'm like, let's time it with this TV show like this is going nowge Entourage, let's time it with Entoerage. So I'm I'm hype. I'm like, I'm about my music about to come out, my my TV show. I'm on the biggest show in the world, and I'm talking about in the world, my nigga like that to this day, to this day, I introduced myself to people at Saigon. You know what they say, Oh like no, oh, like the nigga from Enterag Like yeah, exactly, That's why. That's why was so big. It sucked me up because they don't put the face. They can't know anything, like a lot of people records are bigger than them. Yeah, you don't know people Ice grilled me to. I'm like, nig you gotta relax. Yeah. So so yeah, So we put out believe it. The label was like, well, we didn't even we played it for them. They was like, we we ain't working with it, but not because it's positive. Yeah, you think that the label was well, I mean not to say that I record wasn't positive or other one was positive, but he had Rihanna on it and the other record of te Pain, who at the time was hot as fish Grease. It was just me on my ship, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like I had that Superstar feature, Like we tried to get te Pain but he wanted eighty dollars and the hope was already wrote. So you hear a record right now, that's a reference for t Pain, Just reference Dick. So I just talking about again, gotta believe it, put it up, put it up, put up, believe real quickly. And and listen to the similarities between this uh rihanna rihanna, t I Racket and the Domino and and and and and um all the above. Come on. Huh uh it's very similar. Ah, because Jeff Blade is sitting well, I said, oh yeah, we thought we was out of here. Yeah, that's not keeping, that's no, that's just Blades. Do we sent to paying that already wrote, already written. He's like, yeah, I like it out doing it for eighty thousand, like Nigga's and the ugly dragging the video like that's all Nigga said, k that sounds like the funds to me, my heartheaded saying we'll give you forty I go to just like now you saying I'm go to that s leave. We don't need them leave it like that, and we shot the video and all that with just and then what's the next record to come out of that? You said after that they wasn't working with that. That's what I come about. The next record that copy that you said, oh oh just live your life? Oh you yeah? With Rianna? Yeah yeah, the man joint Platinum that she wants Platum. I didn't hit on the above that much. I heard to be only above huge bro, hear it, You're right? And Atlantic Altic did. They kept getting chicken. That's why I did. With niggas, I was making them reggor saying. Everybody was like, you better make it over. I'm like, understand still on entourge this kids get back, I'm still on. So I'm crazy crazy with the white women at this time. I mean, you must be knocking them down. You must be knocking them down. Everybody named Brittany, Karen and Ashley, they had a piece of side on. It's like baby, come on, man. And I used to have a fetish for white girls because I used to watch like Afro Center, which makes it better. Go ahead. I have some TV so like who's the bass and over? Yeah, I mean one of over and when I got on entour ours money and they'll just sit there and wait. My nay, they'll be right outside your trailer. Like, actually, do you go to Standard Hotel after that? Because that's when you felt the stand film understanding when Standard was upside down? You ever go back to you a legend of the Standard Hotel? But it was looking for you, remember looking for you understanding. You know, I watched watch very very very famili remember you you had got the deal and then you bounced on Turtle. Yeah, I bounced on Turtle because we babing them niggers came. Was like, we made let's explain this, let's explain this as as as this is really by the way, to me, this is real life exactly, it's real life. So when we made what happened right Turtle and got to deal in the skull HBO connect, did they get you a deal with interscope Turtle on them? Yeah, they got me in big deal. And then but we made had you a deal with me on some hode the city down, but you rolled them and then you still gave Turtle the seventy I gave him the band because you know what you know, if you noticing even in that show when they find my because they start they're smart, like Doug Allen and them guys are geniuses because the white guy named Doug a Doug Allen, he's he's a creative show. So even if you look at the park where they found my cit and and then homies Maserati maserati and they color. They was like, yo, we want to use your song for the movie. That's how they want the fun You want to put my song and Queens boulevardbo they want to put. Remember the first thing I asked the niggas, is there any brothers in the movies, any black niggers? Because now my man said, I think I've seen one in that barity he's like any brothers, he said, yeah, I think I've seen one in that bar like some funny ship. But at the same time, it's like they understood, like, oh, this guy is a guy who cares about conscious this, so let's write it in his story. Oh it so wait a minute, time out. Yeah you see what I'm saying. They was playing. Yeah, that wasn't your Nah, I wasn't they did that was his name again, Doug, Doug Ellen. I'll respect you. Yeah, they did something I'm gonna spray someone. Your Mike said. My mind was, come on, give me aid that works. Jesus, Doug Ellen, he's working. It's a brand new work. Twist. Don't don't spray to Mike, not Copeter. Alright, just Doug Ellen. Was his name? Dog Gallant? Pretty sis you had it. This is power power, Yes, guy had satimes that even noticed we also sponsored by the champagne the logo man, yes, you see the power and told me this log on hire and that's just what we got to watch. This doesn't under say. It's different money, fifties, different money, and we're supporting them over here. We support rapper. You gotta fun, you gotta support for this support and that's just smells ship. Look look the one girl in the whole build and said, white girl and this whole fool sticks some pocket sticks and we all look at crazy. Alright, cool, let's go back to what we were talking about. This is so interesting. What was we talking about this? Nigga? Now, now, hold on, you did you did the season? I did two seasons? No, and then they called you back for the movie yond there and then they cut my part out. I had a Lawrence had I thought the five was ill off, like, yeah, it just just showed me on the scene doing that. I'm so show as a fan of the show, like one moment and they burn out. I was like, you know what, I'm gonna keep it being that was me on dog like, Yo, you can't do this movie without me. Niggah you did, nigga, I was harassing. I was on this nigga body like, come on fan because the movie came out kind of late. But I'm still like, you know, I did a lot of seasons after my Sex in the City. I'm sorry my like act like I'm too involved with television because sexon City. I'm not supposed to go about Sex City, but I think, no, no, no, I watched Sex in the City. They got two movies. Yeah, they have two movies. Sopranos ain't got one. No, it's about to come out though, they're about to have without I'm not a prequel, so yeah, all before the whole story. They better get it right, right they ask you question the wire, right, Sopranos, you can't real carefull you're going with this Sex in the City. Onto take Sex the City out of here, please, It's let's just keep this this is like the Wire, Sopranos, Entourage, Were you going? He hasn't seen either. I've seen all of them. What are you talking about? Where you go wire? Yeah? Where you gonna wire? I gotta go next? What Why are Sopranos? Which one? Which one you went? I can't say why. Entourage, you can't ask it. You can say at this point is your game? No? This is no. I just said, I can't say. Can't you want to make it? One word? Motherfucker? And was listen and I love, I loves when I realized when I go back and watch Sopranos, I get hungry and they're racist and I fucked me up like soducts using the more to be Sometimes I'll be looking like Holy Ship when but I didn't know that when it was out there, like I didn't. I actually really didn't pique that, Like I was like, oh ship, and it was in the context of how they was using it. Now in today's climate, it doesn't feel good. Yeah, it doesn't feel like go read back and watching it age. Well, let's just put it a lot of things in agel. But these were white guys from Queens, Yeah, queens. Queens. Queen's is the biggest you know what I like about Let me get you. I got you. Listen, we said this girl there is So if there's anybody who's supposed to be racist, is supposed to be some white guys from question. Oh my god, what you know, like your man in the world. Let me finish and I let me finish. So the fact is anybody who's not supposed to be racists supposed to be some white guys from Queens. I said, anybody supposed to be anybody who's not supposed to be because you know why, you grew up with every fucking nationality you grew over Jean Paul Gutier. You didn't know that the years from Haiti like Sunday's grandfather. Then you go out with a guy named Leonardo. He's supposed to give a public by the way, your yes, possible study that comes around. So when you get you get to see the car. There's three you know, you know, you know we used to get teams and ship Yeah yeah, let me everybody want the zone every where coming back to that hold on. So when you see these these guys from Queens and they make it in Hollywood, it's it's an inspiration because although they were white, they took the queen's mentality Italian right, absolutely didn't matter. It was a generic it was it was because no, they were they were Irish, two of them were Irish and two of them were Italian. So they were white. But the queen's thing is you make it, you wing your boys. And the fact is it didn't matter they were white. They could have been purple, they could have been everything. That was a queen's mentality. So that show, miss, so one of your long explanation that that's the one you're picking. No, I can't you fucking a speech, because you know why. This was not one word answer. This was a longevity answer. So for you being on the show, is that your pick? Of course, this is because I was on. It's because that was hard. I got It was hard because you got to see how the industry work a little bit about what the wire did to show you the politics the police. But a lot of people didn't live in and they got to know about that ship, you know sense it was like this this I go on in fact, okay, with that, you get to see how the agents, how agents work, how when you're important, everybody loved you. And because I got I got when I was on the show, and that was to an agent that you got about how like Ari and Ship was Chris Lighty and no, no he was really and yeah he said, yeah it was No, it wasn't Facings one of those based on the Homies Brothers actually to a guy named real Already's actually a real Harvey win on Entourage as Harvey wise him. He didn't play Already wants but in the Poconos when they went to the Slates. Yeah, yeah, he was, Oh should I just realized that's the same, that's the same other show. Better you, bro, I'm telling you, Emanuel friend Chicago. That was an Obama's administration brother. Yeah, I'm not arguing with that. I was arguing with Harvey Winston. Good argument. I'm saying Harvey was actually they actually um and when they went to not can's excuse me, when they went to the slopes. I think that's when he got when he got when he got Aquamans when Sunday, that's the thing was when he got Acquaman. They had to do it for Harvey and and and James Cameron, yeah, and and Harvey offered him some like crazy, don't you know any mean right now. I met James Cameron. I met Paul His name Paul hack Hackett, like to do who made fucking huge movies like pla, I'm gonna tell you some funny shut that PAULA. It makes sure, make sure because I feel like he thought something else. Want to make sure. One time I got drunk with Marcolberg. Mo nigga right that niggain you're talking about a chick magnet. My nigga. Bitches is standing around stair at this nigger like, I'm like this gotta be uncomfortable with. Like you're in the club and it's like thirty women just looking at you like this, like not talking to each other and that turning their head. And he's I guess he's so used to it because he was from the you know, Calvin Klein model. He'd been that nigga for wow. So to him is that they're like oblivious to him. They're like, he don't see him. But I'm looking like, damn, my nigga, you got a nice pick of the letter right here, like to take any one of these that's just like looking at like this is crazy. You love the white busches at the top, my nigger. I was living vicariously through the snigger for the moment. So how many cameras camera, how many cameras you think you took down? I ain't saying that. I ain't saying that he's my pussy cat? You cap it was pretty like this. It was more than it was, you know, because you gotta live in the moment. Man. I said, the bises wouldn't be fun on me if I was on the show. The boom was Entowage, Oh my god. I mean jay Z song was cool to just blaze deeal was cool, you know, the record deal being on the show with Mark double Excel cover and all that was cool. But that Entobage ship was dead. Is different? I know, was he different? Never talk about murders, yo, but yeah, that was that was like I was sucking actresses like bitches. I knew I was out of my league, was way out of my league. I love that out of the was out of my league. No, I wish I met her. Though she's alcoholic, you're going there. She used to get drunk. Yo. I'm talking about the industry parties with niggas can't get in. I remember one time when you hang out with these niggas, you're getting them l A parties that NBA niggas can't get in rappers. It's like, oh, you're fucking kidding me. You ain't you like yo? You know I'm staying like nigga, get beat your feet, nigger. I was in the party. A dude came up to me said, cut in a second, ILL give you an eight for it. I said, wait a minute, he offered me coch niggas asked me about party. I didn't know what this ship meant party. I said, I love the party. Nigga. Nah, I don't think. I thought, like, damn you, let's get it ship. Now, I'm working with that. You that your answer? All that ship was like three years of my life. And I would say more than three because and lingered and then and then they start showing rerun. So I redid it again. I'm still watching red ones of that ship. That ship a great job. I had some thank you man, thank you I had. I had some great times in my life. And when I said it was a gift and the curses, because what's the curse, the curse was heard. The gift you sucked anything white, I'll did. Let's do it, damn man. So sorry, I felt like a male smut Listen, we all had male smut moments. Yeah, you've been famous for seriously had plum My wife is eight, maybe that's fifteen years ago. Yeah, I had there. I said twenty years because I got that much time, and you know what, you know, that's what I love. I love. So it was a curse because I need to hit a curse park when I went when when it was over or when they started to die down for me from for my character and ship like that one from the show. And I started putting off the music. I started trying to do the music. The show was so big. Start looking at you like the show artists nigga, Yeah, this nigg is really trying to be a rapper. And it was literally I'm like, yo, I'm like, have you never heard the sw you're trying to play that? Your music wasn't dumb on the street. You never heard like I ain't got time. Now you know what smoked up for you because your music wasn't dumb down on the show. If a person actually watched the show and listen to the music and come against on that show, yeah, a lot of ps on that show. Rap cool, cool rat like I was he getting Yeah, we was. We was giving these niggas because the show was so bad, actually trying to this nigger fell off the show. Now you're really trying to pursue a rap career. You got niggas to this day see me Rabbit and be like, nigga, you'll never make it without Turtle and they really really my nigga really believe in Turtle on power and every day. Yeah you don't die. See he posted on my new album, W was like, look so I gonna win ran off with technolog Yeah like that that. I love that nigga. Jerry, like me and Jerry became close friends. But his name is his name was Jerd. We don't don't know that little people like his mom kicking with his mom's and all. Like that's how close we got from from doing Entourage because he was always making so comfortable for me because I used to be like, yo, my my fucking up, like like I'm not y'all professionals. This is what y'all do. So we had a connection and he's like, Yo, this is this is what it is. My nigga. You're doing good or not? Relax Relax like you're overdoing it. You're over trying to overact the situation. So he was coaching me without the directors and ship on the side, and that's how we developed our little a Paul. So then when we whenever he would come back to the East Coast, we link up and ship. He and my like my daughter. I got pitched him holding my daughter when she eight months old, nine months old baby, Like you know what I'm saying. That's why he just had a baby. He got a son named Jacob. Shout to Ja for rather because he makes a noise for Jacob and the turtle and ship. And we made a friendship. And even with Doug Allend, like Doug Island, I'm like, yo, man, because of them guys gave me an opportunity that people don't come buy in life, Like I could show my grandkids that ship, like that's like that's like being on a honeymoons. Because I'm gonna be honest. Anybody who talk to me and to say I want to enter the music business, I say, watch Entourage. That's one of my first things I say. I say, watched Entourage and master Entourage, like it's lesson to the five you you you watch hit me with these episodes. You tell me when I wonder when when when Larry David walked through the office, when Ari Gold, Because that's HBO putting two shows together. That was super successful. That was three hundred and six hundred million dollars that was making right then and there. You tell me when Larry David put pull up in there and I talked to you about the music industry. If you ain't motherfucking like, don't do the band. I never, I never. I never connected it like that because it shows you the ups and downs of the game, because it was times when Vince was fucked up and well I ain't back to move back to Queens like yo, Fellas is over and we were that. Now that's how I related that ended on the worst show in my life. All right, Now, I was gonna that you, But that's how that's how ended up. How did that got The bag was low, my nigger? The bag I ain't gonna lie. I probably had thirteen hundred dollars to my name, my nigga. But let's say maybe the bag wasn't low. You start to live to a certain extent, my course up because but just checks I got it. I had a half minute publishing with jay Z. No one here could said they had to record with Jason Backs. And not only that, he cleared it to where he allowed me to. When you going to the stores, you probably you know you could put feature in jay Z on the stipper. That's he don't allow that ship. I put his name bigger than my ship on them like that nigger glitter. I was like, put that in the first featuring jay Z, Like so when you walk into the store to catch your out jay Z and it picturing me with tape on my mouth, like I didn't do that sh one of my but it was, you know what, And he allowed, he cleared that ship. So at the time, and then we're getting right back to the love of hip hop. So at the time, did you kid, was it a favor for you because because you was a high artist like people were really was it a favor for just No, it was a it was a favor for me, but indirectly. But what happened was and this is why me and just me and just used to get to the point. And I canna tell this story because we don't drink champs. I gotta I think we need more. I got the craziest Just Blaze story in the world. It was Just Blaze managed his birthday right, And I'm gonna segue into how that I got the jay Z record, but it just goes to show you how me, how close me and Just Blaze God, and how much I love a snigger like I love Just You'll never ever ever hit me publicly regards to how to deal with how the situation went. I would never in my life say anything negative about that man. And this is this is one of the reasons. It's a multiple reason, but this is one of them. One day Justice having a party, right, well, his managers having a party. He goes, I want to invite you too. He would He's like them niggas, the Browns were niggas. Keep them niggas away from the party. And if you bring them niggas. If Vince told me at Denver, I told him you can't, it's not gonna happen. You bring them niggas, I hope you can control them. So I'm like, I'm just coming. I'm just gonna bring my man, my man black. You're good. Nigg from four Green, he's not even from the Bell He's from Brooklyn, but from four Green because it's arrogant, you know what I'm saying. But bus how this ship go down? My nigga, We go to the motherfucking joint, too crazy, figuring that water about just whisper here, Bro, every time was slid hang out with puff hang out. So this is this is a true story and just just just a verified yes. So this is a real family and friends and his only event, no man, his close family, her close family. This is his man of jaw and so we're in there. We're having a good time. Next thing, though, my man starts Roman. I bring a nigger name Black with me, grimey nigga from for Green. But he's telling me gonna be on his best behavior. I ses, I don't know what the fun he's drinking. I just knew the nigger was. We had the speech Monday, and we sat and we talked. I said, family, this ain't the hood, my nigga, We're not the Yeah, we gotta really gotta relax, like man, you're trying to like like I can't conduct myself exactly. This is where she gets spooky. The first thing that say, I got it. This is where it got super spooky. We're in the joint. Next thing, you know, I see a scuffle in sue this this place shouldn't be a scuffle. It's nothing but older. His mother's there. His aunts ain't no goons only going in that mother because me and my friend. I see a scuffle, so right, and then I don't see my friend. So I'm like, let me go over there and see what the fun if he's involved, and show enough it's him versus the security. Right, So I walk over the studio the security of the club. This was club. It wasn't even a club, like a restaurant lounge. Yeah, I see him in the security, back and forth with it, nigga. So I'm like, here we go. I walk over there. I'm like, fan, what's going on? How the snigger the snigger valley? So the security nigga is not big niggas. He might be by a little bit taller than you, but y your build slim kind of slim. So my man be gassing my man. My man is like this, and I'm gonna tell a story. It's probably got my man gonna get mad at me. It's truth. The truth is the truth. The truth is the truth. And I'm not gonna get into how the details of it. But when I make it over there, these niggas is in each other's face and the dude is mad, calm like, he's just looking at my man like so my man is the one to go no shame fuck. So I'm like, what's going on? How this nigger more stinking to my man? I'm like, Yo, we're leaving. So just walks over there, like, what's going on? Don't worry about it? Yeah, So he like, Sigon, sig On, like, this is what I told you not to bring into the environment. So I said, we leave it. When just said it, he said browns Ville. Correct, No, just said, nigga, this this kind of element. Okay, the thug ship. Not to bring this ship. He like and he didn't even say that. He just he's insinuating it. You. He liked that, sig On, this is this is what I'm talking about. You know what I'm saying. Because he's seen me. He's seen me funk up a couple of times. That's I'm sorry, man. I'm in this story, man, this story, so say it. So story and I love I love my mom. His mother is like my mother. So he likes, this is what I'm talking about. So my man is all in the nigga face. The nigga just got his demeanor like he's calm and ship. I'm like for this nigga to be like my man. So my man says some ship that must have hit him the wrong way, no justice, saying sigon, this is the ship I told you not to bring around. So when he says that, I'm like, we're leaving. I grabbed my man like we out. We ain't gonna sun up this ship. We're leaving. So my man's he's too in his raw rack ship. He tells the Kareem nigga. He tells this nigga, come outside, nigga, you're gonna die. You know what that nigga said, Let's go man, today, Today's seems a good day to die. The nigga out, I wasn't I know, I wasn't ready, was ready. Kar was skate security for a reason. I'm like, how is this nigga security? Nigga? Yeah, he said, the nigga said today it feels like a good day to die. My man's kicking and come outside, nigga like he got the slammer, let's go follow the nigga outside. Were all walking I'm like, what's gonna go on now? Because I know we ain't got no hammer. I came with the nigga, so I don't know why he's selling wolf tickets or whatever, but that's what he's going. Come outside, you're gonna die, Like we're gonna We're gonna bring a bottle and stand because ain't no weapons outside. So yo. He follows the nigga outside. These nigga square up my nigga. This nigga did some move roundhouse, kicking green nigga round house, my man round house. My man knocked them to the floor, and the man fools to the floor. I'm like, oh ship, the nigga jumps on top of my man about doing filthy. I jumped on back, you know when I jump on Kareem's back, when I talk on Karee's back. No, I ain't gonna let you do like, don't hit me with that ship. But no, man, I can't let you do them filthy. Just Blaze Mom's jumps on my back like breaking it up, Like stop stop. When just Blaze jumps on my back, I forgot my what the man gully was with us? Be small he sees somebody he don't know. It's his mom's. He pushes just blaze. Mom's off me, get the pushes, just blaze moms. She turns around like the shut squear's up with the nigga, make this ship up. Just blaze moms squears up with the nigga, Like what's popping my nigga. So I'm like, Yo, that's just just places like this. You know, I ain't never seen just this gangster my Like I'm I'm like, what the fucker's going on? I'm like, the goes my deal. I'm looking at the like, yeah, my whole ship is gone, my nigga. I'm looking at this nigga. I'm like, what the funk? I wanted to wake up? Like that was some fun up dreams, my nigga. This ship man has some the other day, yo, my nigga. Yeah. So once it finally calms down, I'm like, yo, I'm sitting there apologizing, like, yo, my nigga, I'm sorry. He was like, see this is what the funk I was talking about. My mom sat on my mom's I'm like, but hold on man. So just Blaze Bomb was ready hands up hearing Kareem side by side. Yeah, yo, see she was ready for the action though, you just damn I was ready. She was ready to get busy money. Okay, So now let's go, how did you so boom? And you did two seasons? How many one? I did a half? But Mona was smart enough to keep me, maybe make me finish. She kicked that violator ship on me. She kicked that because I know Mona, I was. I was on violator at the point I was with Kristen and when she had a little office, he was on violator. So you remember what Mona was right there in the corner. Yeah, Mona was right there. Like that's learning and sweeping up the game from Chris, you know what I'm saying. So she's smarter ship. That's the thing of Mowna. She's a she's a visionary. So long story longer, motherfucker. I'm damn I'm sucked up at this point. My mom just died. My money's fucked up. Yeah, my money's super fun up. I'd like to the point where I'm like, damn, I'm gonna end up being back in the hood, and that as as an artist, that's that's only your worst nightmares, like ending up back to where you chipping in for forties. Niggas after entourage, after all that, because that's what niggas want more. Niggas act like they're cheering you on, but they would love to see you back there in the same position there, And like, what happened nigga? You know, man, what happen with the bends at nigga? You know, I mean with the Jews nigga? Where that? And I was like, damn, I don't I was. I dreaded that ship, you know, I dreaded it. And I'm like, and this has happened to me a couple of times, ain't the first time? Like almost hit rock bottom? I was then there at rock bottom, like I had two I got two kids five weeks apart because my mom. When my mom's died, I kind of went temporarily and saying like my mother was my everything. She was the only person when I was getting in all that trouble, the only person that would write me a letter, the only person to send me. She didn't even had it. She'll send me ten hours. You know, they ain't shipping commissary, but it's something in there. And that's all she had. And she used to write me like, yo, I know it ain't a lot, but this is all I could do. I got four other kids, you know what I'm saying. But I ain't get no letters from my aunts. I got nine aunts, monigga. Not one of them wrote me a letter said how are you doing? Not even you said people shop on you when he was everybody you know, it's like being buried alive. That's what I tell nigg isn't who you go to prison, You're gonna know what it feels like to be dead, temporarily dead, right because niggas ain't sucking. Niggas ain't. I got cousins in jail right now, and sometimes I called my other family. But like, yo, when's the last time you wrote mr? Yeah, oh oh have you? When's the last time you thought about this motherfucker? Like if I didn't bring him up, but you even remember that he exists because you you you buried alive. No, that's why this whole abandoned nation, this whole abandon nation ship. I started like you abandoned. Niggas abandoned you when you get a test. Yeah, but but yeah, like I was saying, like this is how so when when I went kind of crazy because I used to be the condom king like all them bitches. I I was trapped up. One thing I never worried about was my I wasn't. I wasn't the band back, very responsible, very responsible with the song with the slang. Yeah, I was very responsible with the slan. I don't know where we're going with this, but this is the point. The point was sick a shot, sack a shot for Yeah. The point was I love this ship. I keep going, so you got to the shot this account. You gonna have me in here like Lama older, like yo, niggas trying to play. You gotta take. You gotta finish it. Though you're gonna finish it. You gotta finish it. You gotta queens. You gotta gotta finish Puertoregan. It's not even queens about Porean No, I'm just saying about that. When do you want to show you're Puerto Rican when you're going on this show. You gotta finish. Our ship gets you. It's your very injurious the let's go so boom. I'm funcked up in the game. This is what I was going with the Condom ship. So now I started going to love and hip hop. That's I know this isn't get there. It's how I end up on the show with her. You noticed I got a DNA test on the Show's the shorter than you. I ain't know this bit from a hole in the wall. I kind of know a little bit. I don't know. I know ever, a lot of niggas know what. Okay, Oh damn. Matter of fact, I'm sorry. You know why I did would because she just lost her father two days ago, God bless God, bless Erica. My son's grandfather, and he loves grandfather. So and plus I'm trying to get to a point where her because me and I ain't been friends since that show. I don't sunk with U. I don't once. I can't trust you, I can't fun with you. What what happened? She let's get let's let's get into it, just so let you rob when my mom died. My mom died two thousand and eight. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. She makes some noisome moms. I mean, let's be quiet for moms. Second one, two, ten, second back mama side, I love it. IM took the fence on, I said, tattooed on my neck. God damn it. You know what I'm saying, so, so when this whole bullshit happened, Damn was that the right side? Is this side? Right? I don't wonder them. Okay, we got the more from cameras got you whatever side you got me, got you, brot. I'm excited about being around one of my favorite artists and ship another story, compt pone story and Compono has got it on. Let's keep them what's got it on? Without realizing who? Because ye come back to that, okay, ye, so check it out? Ye. So, but I'm telling you how you said how I got on the show? I said, how I got on this show? Like, because I ain't this this was some funny ship. So when my mom's died, I went into a temporary sanity mo. Like I said, I used to be the most responsible nigger, but I went to a phase but I ain't care about my life. That's when I got robbed and ship and I went up like after like you said, but after the reason why they never because they took my ship. But the reason why my ship never went on toll like when we got signed on because I went there and shot the ship up. I shot my cousin. Yeah, yeah, I got busy. I got a super big because I didn't care at that point. My mother just died. So so at this point the women in my life at the time, who they weren't really in my life. You know when you got them girls you call when when when, like you said, triple h when you're horing in ship like and I hate to hate to throw them under the bus, but the truth over truthful of feelings like this is the truth. This is our story and ship. So I didn't have I didn't know these women. I just knowing him for you know what you're doing. I used to call a girl like, you got a boyfriend this week? All right, hit me back and like so we can, so we can hook up and then I'll call you in six months like that kind of like we never went on dates. It was none of it was rapper ship, know what I'm saying. So when my mom's died, I had gotten two women pregnant at the same time because I started slinging row kids, not getting kin no more, was trying to die. I'll like it. I ain't got no mom. I'm singing no more, no more. Out of window period of time I made. I made the mistake of not just came home. This is I'm signing I'm cold after swinging broad deck. So Paul yo, so so hona. This is a true story, my nigga, this drink chance. We gotta keep it being right. So I get two women pregnant at the same time, and while they're pregnant, I snapped back into reality, like mom, I can't bring my mother back and me fucking up my life. It's not something she'd want, like, oh, my mom's dad, Let me throw my life away, because that's that's what I was on that path and my my my my excuse was my mother. My mother's not head, the only person that loved me, and the whole world's gone. So fuck it. I don't care about nothing. I'll kill him. I was. I was. I went through a real retarded phase for about eighteen nineteen months. And during this phase, I got two women pregnant at the same time. So when I snapped back out of reality and these children are born, I'm trying to be there every step of the way, like, Okay, now I got my my mother's not coming back. Me acting like an asshole ain't gonna bring up back. So let me get my ship together and what my mother would tell me was, Nigga, you made a mistake. This mistake you made. You gotta fix it. Now, you gotta live with it, and you gotta take care of them kids. You gotta beat there for them kids. You gotta be the best father you could be. So I so now, Erica. I've never even seen Erica pregnant, my son's mother. I never seen a pregnant not a picture, not a big belly, nothing. She just came and told me I'm pregnant in its yours And I was like, fuck it, where is he at? Bring him brim because I got a daughter. Who's how old is he? Eight months? I got another eight months over here. So I had the same same time. The other one. No, the other one she said she was, but she said she is having abortion. She was like, man, you ain't in no position. And I don't even funk with you. I don't even know you. Huh No, My nigga has just had them kind of relationships to where we happened. It happened, you know what I'm saying. I had more of a relationship with with her than Erica. But we weren't in the space type of baby we weren't those face stop child to bring a chown in the world again, listen that start relax. Let him know. I saying, you know when you shouldn't have a baby with you know what I'm saying. So long story short, right, I got these two kids who I got all the time. Now I'm trying to do the right thing. And this is like when they eight nine ten months stay so they baby babies. So a girl I used to knock down from Toronto pops up out of my life nowhere because I'm posting my kids on on Instagram. I don't remember what it's going. She's saying, you got a third one? No tell I got on the show. This girl pops up out of my life. Who I used to just knock down another one I was knocking pretty girl right. So she comes and goes, yo, I love how who you are with your kids. I see you, I respect you as a man. Is there anything I could do? I'm like, just a lot you could. I'm trying to do this. I don't funk with their mothers, but I'm trying to be the best father. She starts coming around, she starts buying the kids clothes, helping me, helping me with my kids. So I'm like, damn, this ain't like shorty, because sure they never seemed like this kind of girl before something like that. You know what I know, But I used to know she's from she's from Canada. I used to just knock her down. Yeah, I was knocking a damn years ago before this stuff. But she pops up back in my life, helping me with the kids or like girls again. Na, na, she's she's making stop pretty girl, real pretty taking Christmas Carrey, Christmas car about the bed. Yeah, she what's that ship? A couple of us ships, cameras ship, that's more friend that's more friendship, that's more friends. So no real ship. So she's starts coming around. So after about three weeks of her being in consistently, she pops the question like would you do loving him? And I thought you could ask you married. I asked me what I do love in hip hop? And you know back then, every nigga's answering for that. Hell no, I ain't doing that right. Girl asked me what I do the show like you was knocking her down. She was for loving him. She asked me what I do know like with her? No, she asked me, what, like, would you go on this show? You get randomly? Well it's on, like would you do this? And I'm like, nah, he don't. No, nigga's be bugging on that that I ain't doing that ratchet ship. I kicked the whole speech. She was like that sucks because I got us? Or did she with Mona? I said what she said, yeah, this Friday, they want us to go read for the part. Then oh oh, that's why she hitad was told Mona she was in a relationship with mer Oh this was the Canadian damn around. So she had ulterior motive the whole time they was trying to line you up. She was using me to get on the show. This is what she did. She went to get on the show. They liked her and was like, Yo, you gotta have a nigg and it's loving hip hop. Who's your hip hop connection? You know how folk with the nigga saigon from on her she ran that ran down like she's the last your girl. So Bona was like a word I know, Yeah, okay, so that's why she's coming around helping me. But she she was so smart. She didn't do it right away. She did it like after a couple of weeks. But the girl, the girl, she lured me in to do to do, to go read because you gotta go read for the ship, and they make you audition for that ship too. So I'm like, first, I'm like, hell damn. When she told me we had an audition, was like, I started thinking about the baby bag I had, like a little my funds was and then I'm like, you're probably not gonna get it. It's probably it's just one of the shows that its peak. I'm like, I'm like, fuck it, like worst case scenario. They say no something like. First, I was like, that's fat what you did, because I peep game right away. I was like, that's why you've been helping me, that's why you over here, because you need me to get on this show. So we go read for the show. She hustled the shit out of me. We go get on it, We go read for the show. We get the part. Me and huh, Me and the girl. They're like, we love y'all. They start filming us. While they're filming us, they realized that the hugs ain't tight enough, the kisses ain't passionate enough. So Mona is so smart. She's like sign ain't right here. She was like something about this dynamic because we had a bullshit storyline. You know, we were in love. And then my nigga she moaning, um, knew right away this is a fluke. So morn I was like, Yo, this ship is from gazing. We watch it back. Y'all niggas don't look like y'all funk with each other, Like I don't even look like y'all like each other, Like this ship is not gonna happen. So the jiggers up. Yeah, this was a one nice thing, and I can tell something like fucking the jiggers up. So they fired Shorty and came to me, was like, Yo, we don't funk with her, but we like you. You got you ain't got no business you can bring in the show with you. I said, three baby momas you talking about? So then I'm like, which one of my baby mamas gave me the less headache? And it was Erica. So I'm like, I call ericas Erica listen because she knew I was doing like a hip hop because we shot like for three weeks with that Canadian before they fired us. They was looking back at the footage just saying this ship don't resonate, so they fired her. Came to me and was like, yo, we still want to keep you, but your story. We need a better storyline. But you ain't got no business and that nigga with you out here slacking. I'm like, I got nigga, I'm my ship is you want my real story? And I told her what was going on in my life and she was like, oh, we love it. And that's how I ended up in there with my son's mom. I called my son's mom and I said, look, I got an opportunity for us light now that love and hip hop. They don't want that other bit, and I could bring you on the show. I don't know. I don't know. I said, listen, you always complain about money. You always. This is an opportunity for you to get money. Or you gotta do is follow my lead because they want it's all about drama from Jamaica, you know. I said, Yo, it's all about drama. We don't need to drama ship. Just follow my lead and then we can make this ship work. We got disguised. The limit with this ship is four million million people watching you every Monday. Six million like this is they handles their social media. Yeah, huge, something like this ship is huge. The only thing I need you to do is trusting me. This is my first She was like, I don't know about putting my life out there like that. I said, just trusting me, Please, just trusting me. I'm gonna guide you. We have a son together, so I'm not going this is forever. Men. You whether we like each other or not, we gotta deal with each other forever. So I'm like, I'm putting you on this is this is a come up. You know what I'm saying. So for the first two or three shootings, she did everything she was. Everything was going smooth. Her friends got in her head like you made it, you made it. Then she was like episodes came out. Then she started coming at you. Let's be clear, didn't I didn't even see half the ship that she was saying. That didn't make the scream my nigga. That's why I was like, this called me gay one time on tape. This was like, you gay ass nigga. I said him, gay, my nigga, you ever heard about me being with a fucking dude or something? She was like, my butt was fake. It is I didn't lie you like. So, I'm like, yeah, facts over facts over feelings. I said, I know how to react to it. The best called me getting that's when that's when the act. That's when I said, the gloves is off you. Really, they didn't never aired it, so I never had to even say it. You know what I'm saying. Nobody would have never if I didn't come on Drink Champce and say it. But I'm I'm I'm thorough, I'm transparent. That's what made me say, oh, if you're willing to go on TV and try to belittle me to this after I bought you into a situation that could have been amazing for both of us, But your friends is in it? The bitch told me one time, I mean the one, the female. She was like, it ain't you. I'm like, Erica, you're gonna make this go bad. You're gonna do You're gonna let a temporary situation. Yo, it ain't your show, nigga, This ain't George, I said, but it was my situation. I asked you to Nigga, this is love and hip hop. I do me. That's how she was talking to me, and I'm like, are you kidding me? So I said, Erica, we have a son together. When this show is not hot no more, we still have to raise his kids. You make you letting temporary ship do things that's gonna have permanent result, permanent damage. Like I'm different than don't play with me like this. And she was like, nigga, you ain't nobody I mean going far word my nigga to the point where I'm like, Erica, I put you in this situation. Nobody even funk with your music. Nigga, you're a bums all of that, and I'm saying like wow, That's why I was like, Yo, I'm like, I can't trust you once. I can't trust you to that magnitude. That's why it was so it came out to t on TV the way it did, because that's why I said. When I quit in the middle, I told Mona. I said, Mona, I can't, I can't do this with this girl. I'll funk around, punch this bitch in the face on TV. Something something's gonna click in me and I'm gonna end up looking like the nigga that beat up a girl on TV. Because I'm deff. My my brain's wired a little bit. I said, Mona, she's doing She's She's taking me to a point where I don't want to go. She's taking me to a point where I'm gonna sunk up for myself. I know myself. I know when my lips started doing this ship and I'm about to do some stupid ship, That's what I'm like. And she's bringing me to a point where I don't want to go. So I can't do the show no more so, Mona, I said, Mona for asked me to finish the season. Mona was like, Yo, you know this is if you quit this Fox up the money and vir Calm owns this show and he wasn't let me do it like you and Joe button dropping at the time. Whatever I know, did you and Joe? Yeah? Yeah? But not on hip hop hip hop? We have we have rap rap ship. Okay, I sorry, the cook came on the mic. Okay, all right, I had to cooking on the monkey. That was it. After the love of hip hop, After loving hip hop, I never sucked with it again until that till the other day when she called me and told me, so, this is seven years ain't with this girl, So this is kind of guy. Baby, Mom, I'm sorry, yeah, man, that much of ya y'all mouse No, I was looking at one point, you know what, broth. But I just want you to tell your story. I want you to tell your story because you know your story is very, very very rich. Thank you. I wish I was rich my story. No, No, I mean, like you know what I mean now it is I wrote a book during the quarantine, and I wrote a book. That's why when I'm doing these interviews, I'm like, but the book is so much more detail. So I'm like, I could tell because that's gonna make it. We did these visuals right now you're talking, so you know what to be because a lot of people, you know, like this is like most death just like top Liver QUI leaders like carebrus One doing loving hip hop. You're the first one to conscious rapper that got on it. Yeah, the first and last. I don't think. I think you was the first and example of not doing it because I thought we were honestly and I told Erica this, we can this demographic needs. My whole point of the show, Like I even showed y F a show that I was creating called Father Figures, and my whole point of doing the show I was like, Erica, our our story, it's gonna be even though we're not together, we have a child. I want to show that demographic that you don't have to be with the woman for y'all to co parent correctly to raise a child. So the producer started calling our head, saying y'are boring. They saying y'are boring, y'are born. So she thought we need to turn up because yeah, so I'm telling her. I'm like, now, this is respect the love of hip hop. Producers don't respect y'all for falling for it. It wasn't. Y'all was hugged because I told her what was gonna I said, Erica, you know he bit At that point, I said, way more ship than that. Y'all got to the point where they would come shoot up. I watched the show for real, so Bro, it was it was. It was worse, always the worst than what the first time all that this first time I ever seen it was. It was a psycho music black woman. It was way worse. STI We're not gonna do the quick time is line? What is it right? Right? Huh? We gotta go seven more minutes? Leave us alone? Bro, you want Bro I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but that was the first time I was like, damn, bro because you was you was our poor righteous teachers. You was our new Yeah. And ain't know what it was. It was the fact that you don't matter. They can break you. Know, they can't break you. Because she broke me. It wasn't the show. It was she respected you know what I respect. She broke me, and that's why I didn't talk to her for sixty six years. Bro. Like, like I said, like once, once I lose your trust to me, trust is everything. Once I can't trust you, what's the point of talking to you. I don't even know it's coming out your mouth, is real or not. I can't even trust any fucking thing you say. You can't be like I really mean this, spitch you true? You said that last time. And the PA the relationship now because the father died. I'm trying. I want because I want a relationship with my son. I don't have the relationship with my son. If you look at my post my daughters, Yeah, because killed it. They killed it, killed it, They killed it, it killed it, killed it, killed Like my son is about to be nine years old next week, and I hardly know him. I hardly know him like I wanted on him. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's craziness because and I explained to this young lady, I said, look, you can't raise this little black man like I can't. Man, I don't give a fun what niggers come in and out of your life. Nobody's gonna love this thing unconditionally. Stop sucking keeping him away from me. Stop doing that because you do. You hate me more than you love him, because you're not. You're hurting him more than you're hurting me. You're thinking, oh, I'm gonna keep him over here, but you're hurting him because he's growing up without his father man, and you're doing this ship. This ship made me want to cry. You know what, you can you know what. I'm gonna doing something. But let's talk about Let's take another shot that's about this strange music. You want take the shot that's about the strange music. I love this because of about the straight I feel you. You're ever stepping away. Not a real quick shout out to you doing Fatherhood. He was he's a Fatherhood's podcast. Im not. I love that was told me like I know, I know how in the days she's cool. What are you talking? Happened to me so much? You know what's funny? Swiss subject switch to some mother switz to Like I said, my strange, you're good Strange music, Strange music, this beauty. Damn no rey to. I gotta add Noory to the list, like Noria Strange. We just doined like damn rais music. So I gotta had stuff to pull on the list. Stuff I do have no on that place is found money. No, come on, we don't you talking about on the list? Yeah's some real ship because all things what makes what make you say? You know what? Tech? No? Oh, like best in the world, independent, independent, best in the world. And it's not just Tech. Tech is just to face because he's the artist. But Tech has a partner named Travis. Travis is one of the list. List. Like, we just came from Kansas City. You see my man rocking strange music. Ship. The city is strange music. Yeahs music has got construction companies, They got buildings, studios and studio. They told me when we was out there, if y'all get pulled over by the police, just telling me you were strange, they left you. Yeah, the whole Yeah, so you think it's a major label. It's bigger than a major label when you're label my nigga. It was a no brainer, especially at this point. You describe a situation though, because everything everything happened, he's been it's been doing people. Hold let me describe it. Let me just give you the intro to it. You've been doing everything, loving hip hop everything after that, Now time to make music. No, I didn't. It was there was no music. It didn't go from it went from Entourage gave me a lot of relationships. So I met this kid named Mike Seman who owned a tech company. No, no, no, no, don't please, don't do that. Bothers him furniture. You know the furniture too, Sophia, Mike semen Bro, that's his name, but he spelled different, spelled different. Where is he from? A tech? He's a tech genius. No, he runs a five on the minot company. So he's stepping to you. Where are you at? This was I'm a wrapper, but I'm doing Entourage. So we met because a couple of years probably after, but they know me from the show and we established a friendship. So, but he's like a tech one of those super high genius telephone Valley, Silicone Valley, guys, but from but from New York. And you know, I made up an idea. I had an idea of what I wanted to start, like a a Facebook, but for artists. So it's called hip Hop My Way. So I said, I came there and I pitched the idea. He always to always tell me, yo, listen because he became friends. I'm like, Yo, let's do some business and let me get some money with you people like you. Come up with an idea that work, that I think could work, and I'll fund that out on me. So we came up with this Hip Hop My Way. I don't know if you heard of it, but it's one of the biggest sites out niggas didn't even know it was. I owned it from Rick Ross is on there, the Davies to everybody who everybody mostly ma I mean millions, weny, millions of dollars. But is even is the time you're taking the shot a millionaire moment. That's my brother guys, who was like, I gotta train you on a drink chance when you salute, you gotta take the whole shot. Here we go radiol there like you drinking too much brings m M. Look at that side. So he's drunking, and everybody when the host is drunking to me, nig nigga, nigga. I built this multimillion out of company, little tech called hip hop. My way is still still running to this day. Shout out, blessed, Shout out everybody, Mike, everybody who's running it with me, and like ship is doing great, right, but at the the rapper in me don't stop recording. So I'm not putting the music out, but I'm recording. I'm recording. I did a whole album with Street Runner. That one's out now, So shout the street running fucking phenomenal producer, Bro Granny Granny Award whenever streets facts fact because we fucking sig on. You know, he just did cart Mega Ship like he's look at Miami Alchemists something exactly exactly. That is a hard analogy. It is Miami Alchemists, so check it. Though, you gotta get another bottle. So I'm recording all these songs. So one day I look at my I look in my computer, I'm like, damn, I got a huntred and fifty records. That not bumming and ship like good records, even though making money doing his tech ship. I'm like, damn man, and most of my out of a hundred fifty records, there's probably twenty that's like sig On on his gangster ship, like just to see if I still had it, hunting thirty of them, since it's save the childs and ships. What I'm saying again, Sure, I think it's another white Star nowhere because I'm sorry, signed now you got it. I feel like there's another white Star somewhere. Now. You gotta drink that fifty cent Joe joint stage because we love it. We're gonna keep it in the show for a while. We love we gott keep it the showing fur to the cycle. I'm sorry, continuous. Unless you want, you want to pop it, you can pop it right there. If you pop it, we're gonna pop it. Which one you want on? Which one you want? Come? On? Which one you come? You aft? Cent? Got problems? Right? No? No more? I hope not all right? So so listen if if I love so, then if which one you want to pop? Bro? What's up to you? No? Normal? You know this is a guest, no guessing exactly. It's the guest choice B but being and you got twities. Do one, that's do one else we have we have as many as you want. If you were like and like you, we're like, yes, you gotta do the that's not that's not white star, is it? No? No? Yes? Rightifty cent? Yeah? Yeah, they don't say what they want. Fifties of renaissance man, fifty this ship they're noneing no rap? Okay, can you wait for me for a second, offend, I only take two seconds. I thought I was gonna be the first thing I thought I was gonna be. I cain't ben ready to throw up? Say two words. He's out in the second word, quick, quick as piss evan, So yeah, quick, trying to take a question. And then he comes right and wait for sime before we popped this lit. So let's get into the deal. The deal was strange. So I got all these records. I got all these records with strange music. I mean, I got his records. So I'm talking to Trap. I'm like, trap man, I got it. But did you have a report with Trav from before I met him? I got a group signed over there may Day and recognized Yeah, we just joined with Kendrick and Tech. We did we did that join. Yeah, I've been in the vide that he had an old TV over there. You know. I remember when I was there when Jay Rock and Kendrick was the hype man for you, Trawns, the whole black hippie, the black he ain't like he gave it. He gave it. What you do. He's doing the right thing. He's doing the right double man. Yeah, that's why I funk with him. Is an honorable guy. Everything that man said he was gonna do, he did it. Yeah. Yeah, And that's so hard to find in this day and age. Man, it's so hard to find him, motherfucker to do what they said they're gonna do that. It is rare. It's like finding a bag of money. But I don't mean that. Wipe me down, bigger boy, like you got brothers. Damn, you only touch your dick, nigger Damn. He said, he said that said, I watched my hands. That's real. He said, I know what I know. Wash my head first down ship this ship pop unexpectedly, but listen, just said, fuck it, it's cremate Julie and Jacin, let's go, let's do it. No, come to the hood. Look like that called with my fingers. Let's do it wrapped up. We were toasting up for me. We're getting this. I'm gonna have you like you went on me. Okay, it's okay, that's okay. Drinking. I'm going for it. So now right now I'm looking at your glass like, man, is it glasses? Gucci glasses? Now the's is from Amazon. These are ten Hollars. I just went through ships. You know why I could sit on him and last you know, I did that before I bought the finding all the ships and I still don't. I don't wear them. But because we stopped boycott Gucci, Yeah, we should have come on, but our boycotts only last a week. This is on the NBA. Yeah, we took two days old. He just stop that, niggo nigga. Seeing the NBA stop for a day, I ain't realized that. Yeah, niggas took two days old. We're back back, we're gonna we're gonna boycotts. Jake, that that's unfort come on, Jacob Blake. And then two days later, Yeah, they're about there playing tonight. Man. Yeah it's over. But what happened we done that? Like there's only is always a name like niggas be like Brianna tell or arrest justice for Brianna Taylor? First of all, what's justice for her? If they if they arrested him, that ain't justice. If they didn't get six months, we said, we'll forget about it. They could arrest and then give him a year. He could come home and live his life, and we won't bring it back up because we get caught up in the hype of just being a part of nahun. That ain't justice for her. First of all, we keep saying, yo, we got we need What is justice for We have defined what that would be. Is that him getting life? Is that him getting the electric chair? Or is that him just getting arrested and indicted because that they can indict this fucking glass They murdered hard her sleep. They murdered her in her sleep. So what's justice for Because everybody's saying Brianna Taylor because it's trendy, it's the thing to do, it's the thing to post for likes. Niggers do that ship for life. That's why I said on my what's the wrong part about that? The wrong part? Because if it ain't real, if you're not gonna see it through all the way. Like I always tell me the reason why I'm not out there, because if I go out there to protests, I'm gonna tell my kids, don't wait up, my nigga, I'm not coming home. I'm not going out there with a fucking pick a song. Kid, what's wrong? Like people like my song doing that. I don't think that's wrong. I commend my song if if and I know him personally, so I know how he feels. He's out there. Yeah, I know, Yeah, I know what my and and my song ain't. Ain't no sucker bone in his body. I know my song. So he's out there. If ship do get funky, he's gonna get he's gonna get arrested with everybody else. Now, it's not even that, but he understands the danger he's putting himself in by putting himself out there. He know that if he gets powerful enough and enough people start following him, they'll clip him. He understands that, and he's still out there. He that's my brother, So he understands and knows that. And that's why I tell him, Bro, we gotta protect things like that or of course, because we ain't doing it if I go out there and doing it. I'm not gonna ask today because I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna show you what we need to do. Bang bang bang, I'm gonna do a ki on bang with the police. I'm gonna do like your partner. But were begging the white guy, the white guy, what's that the white guy gonna arrest the kid on him? When he said, you come about holly banging with the police? You your partner? Oh, ship just over. Yeah, we already told how he got the whole verse. Brother, you gotta relax, you're running right, He said, how did you get the whole verse? We already established that correct? Oh yeah, oh no, we didn't. We did this? Can we do? Can we can we get into that? I would love to get to that How I got the verse right? That verse? Actually, so this is how the verse happened. I'm making my album. I'm going to make my album, just blaze doing the whole album. So I'm in there while he's making the beats. So I'm in there while he's banging on the fucking NPC. I'm bopping up, like you, this is crazy. I need that you want this? No down dope whole got it next day, Lenny. Yes, cause men, y'all got um that beat just gave you ja ja ja? Like, how then did he hear it? First of all, how did it? Did he hear it? When I was I'm saying that to play that from Jake? You know what I'm saying. So I told him nigga, I wanted that ship. So I'm like, all right, there was one beat. I'm like, fucking second one is come on, baby, come in. I'm like this, don't do I feel like I'm here with you. I said, Yo, I need this is it? We got our five. That's what we did in the studio. I'm mad at here. I'm ad at here with this one. This is the ship I'm talking about because Fat Joe used to always be like I used to running the Fat jo used to be like, you know how that Joeys make that nigga give you joints. Make that nigga get you one of them joints. Long story, Yeah, I always just say that, make that one of them joints. Every So I thought, come on, baby, was it? I get a call from Lenny s your sie I need to have let you, oh ship? What is this about? Lenny, you know that, come on baby joint Jay Jay likes it? How the fund did he hear that? So now called just yo, why are you playing beats that you made for me for JA? Like this ship don't make sense, bro, Like I'm y'all, I'm supposed to be your artist. Even I'm sign the rock to make and ship all this. So I'm like, yo, fan, what the fun is going on? And he goes, Yo, you know he heard it somehow somebody played it for him and he took it. And you know that's the big homie, Like did they put me in the game and he put me on? It's hard to say no to this thick you know what I'm saying. That's what he was saying. I respect that as well, but I'm like, fan, we're doing it At this time, I'm thinking on his label, like we're building I'm your flagship artists. So I'm like, fuck it. So and then then he has tells me and he recorded to it. He was like, yo, he liked it so much. He recorded to the ship last night. So I was like, that's going So we were in there a couple of weeks later. I will be Kingdom Come He's making King. Yeah James listening, Bro, I'm like, damn, that's my single. I'm out of here. Come you to a killing Nigger King? Come over in mind? That was my beat vibe said, I'm sitting there. How do I tact this? Yeah? Yeah? And then I signed on my yeah alright and looking cover please yeeah com that was my beat moment, Please be the rookie coming. What are you looking at us? I don't want you want to who he's like, said, I wanted to pay time drunk? Hows how you drink? Drink there? Ship is fine. This is the first time I've seen it in person, Like, I don't Yeah, killing cover, No, that's a crazy record, man. That beat was fucking you gotta sitting there. You gotta put out the mix tape. Huh code sat You had that first with me a documentary verse grinding it first, but that's not your verse on the remix. Check this though. Once he took come on baby, he took another beat. He took a man Jesus Christ right that Kingdom comes ship the Rick James sample. I said, no, Lenny, no, Bro, I said, I don't I know where you're going with this. Nigga na He was like no, wait, wait, wait, wait, I haven't wait. I said, no, I gotta I gotta grow a set my nigga. I gotta put my I gotta put my nuts on the table something because this can't you doing right now? Let me ask? Oh that's when FaceTime, yes, oh wow, what's going on? What's going He's talking about how you jacked him. I was telling about how how the Kingdom come beating all that ship. You know how it used to be like lis coo he and be like, oh I got news many know the big hollies said he like, I was telling you that's how. That's how I got to come on baby birth. It was like how you got to come on baby birth. I was like, yeah, that's how I got to come on baby birth because Jay hadn't did the birth already, so yeah, just yo, nid jake. At that point, them like Jack, give me the Kingdom come sick, and you can keep that, you can keep them bass, but to come on babysit right, I was like keep that. Take it, hey, yo, you listen to Jay verse. He didn't even come on baby He didn't even perfect it. If you tell it was just like fucking with it. No, man, that's good enough. That's good enough for me. That's good enough for me. We're seeing on everything. Goddamnit. We got a grade. It's in the building. Jesus, y'all you thank you. I see you later. Conserving the story, conserving whatever you know exactly ross great. You can't make this up. It was a great story. Great. So so let me tell you how finishes. Let's kid tell you. So when you try to take them come, I put my foot down. I'm like, nah son, somebody, nah bro, I understand it's jay Z, but I'm not gonna ever have an album if this thing keep coming, taking it, how's my sins most to come together? So he was like, you know what, give him the kingdom come beat because he recorded a verse, don't coming baby, He's gonna give you that back With the verse I said, and say say no more. I'll take that. And that's how I got come on baby back. Because you got looking at verse. Listen, there's fifteen hundred thousand rappers. It's only thirteen of them, maybe fourteen, feel jay z Z. I'm honor. I got to think enough, but I'm still stars. Yeah, I got a D but I asked reverse to this day. I don't did a lot. Jay walking up and be like, oh, all right, listen to you. Clear was it you asked for it? Like you he walked the baseline, he said, you're homebie. Nah was like yeah, it's like you got civic gona, I said the nigga said, because Kingdom come? Was that was the way I said, Kingdom come, this is this is my single. Like then he was like, nah, you remember the other one you took that You like, yeah, you like that one too. I'm gonna give you that back with my vocals on it. So I'm like, nigga, take Kingdom, Come take Queendom, Come take the whole beck of cars. Nigga. Yeah, they go, and I'm on my way because I'm like, I gotta Jay Burns And I'm like, yo, I didn't believe it for a long time. How different was he feel? This is how this is how much I ain't believe it. I used to call just plays like every day and be like, yo, Jay didn't call and change his money right like every three months later, I'm like, yo, the Jay's changes none him nobody nah Son. It got to the point where the day before it came out I'm like you sure we good because you know his whole any giving moment hole shut down your whole fucking everything with a phone call like stop it. He's different in our culture. He not only in our culture and American culture's jay Z's top of the food chain, but nigger like jay Z is up there with the president. He might have above the president, maybe beating the nigga sometimes too, huh the president. But you know that's this new president. You're seeing a clip with me telling Kanye I don't care about black people him in his face like this, I ain't seen that. Pull it up. I'll pull USh it up now, show us you show us has So I'm gonna tell you the whole story, right and tell you the whole story. You know, far Gray Far Gray is like one of the youngest richest black millionaires whoever there ever was. He was like a millionaire fifteen and sixteen, and it made a lot of money and then and then went and went viral. So one day we all at this event, me, him, Kanye, bunch of big wigs, and I'm talking to this nigger on my black ship, like yo, because he's like when he's looking scared to death, this nigger is like this, it's about Kanye. No father Gray first, okay, so fare Gray, I'm talking this nigga like, yo, mon, nigga, you in the position to make us. Look in a week, we invented we I'm gonna show you we started this whole country. We we invented. YadA YadA ya. Kanye walks over and we're like, yeah, what's going on with I talked about? So I'm like, Kanye, I'm trying to talk to this snig about the black plate and how we need to do this and we need to do that, and how we need to do this, and he's eating He's like what something like, man, this another I'm sure this nigger right here is this think you don't give a ship about the people though, because he was big. He was Kanye West. Look look at this ship. I can't make this ship out king. I don't. I don't, I don't lie. I'm lying on flying cars. I'm not Superman yet look at that ship. Yeah, look look here you go. Ye. Look I scared. I never listen to talking. That's far great, Google, and I mean that's cute to beat super Yet I don't want to die. I don't make sure. Yeah, you gotta keep that right. Talk about us again, got skinny. Look who who thinks nigg talking? We're talking some very little too. That's a lot of flower right from Clay work on kicking the same ship and there like look at the pleasure. But who who what dude? He took it to? Huh? Who do the dude calling you to? Somebody calling you because you're very important? Not? Now, who's the dude call you him? Man? Why the fun would you? Man? I want? I want you gotta see the fair gray you got him American businessman, inventor. Yeah, he's an inventor, a very important nigga. I want to keep myself super important. Nigger, my nigga, I'm sitting in it. Look how Skinny is like this nigga is talking to my money looking talking his black ship. Stop sucking calling me man, I want to continue. I skipped it. I said when you ain't walking. Look, so now I'm still I'm spending saint to the canyon. It's a lot of flowers, right, but I tell you I'm trying to spread it to him and hand. You don't care about the people. Man, he's funny. You know black record that I'm sitting in and like, nigga, you meet a businessman, you think I don't care about the people. That's how I used to do these, nigga, That's what it ain't like in his face. You know I did that because he told George but he said that about about black people. And now you're running for president and you Donald Trump does this was recently right now? That was? That was? No, that wasn't recently. That was that was. But the point is, now, how you how you gonna say that about George Bush? And I've been checked you on it, but then you're running with Donald Trump. You funk with Trump. Trump cared about us. How are you gonna tell George Bush don't care about black people? But you were sunk with Donald Trump? And they get it shipped on us worse and Wayne worse than George has ever did. Niggas be lost, Niggas be lost, and you know what they get the money, money be fucking niggs up and money. You know, you had a lot of money. I had a lot of money. I don't I mean, but but you understand you understand that. Now, Okay, you're still getting another money. I'm not guess what I'm still that y'all day. Bro, I ain't breaking for nobody. That's what I'm that's breaking. That's my point, because where is your happiness come from? Your family? Right? Your wife? You know what? Seeing your wife smile, seeing your kids happy, seeing them hug you, and say, that's what. You can't buy that, I and my brothers and your brother you can't buy that love money. I don't even if you had a trillion dollars, you can't buy that. You could be the king on top of the castle with everything and ain't no longer around you when you're gonna be miserable, You're gonna be miserable. You could be the fucking on top of the food chain with everything if you ain't got loved, if you ain't got niggas that make your heart smile when you look at their face. The ship is worth nothing, bro, And they they teach us your chase money, money is to end all be all. That ship is bullshit, Bro, that's all figuring our imagination. And we're so caught up on I'm getting this money. I'm getting this money. That ship is sucking us up. We should be like, I'm happy. That's why I like that For realtion because that on Yeah, you put you run from that. I don't. I hope not. I think that's big in the game. You know, that's the beautiful thing. Yeah, I don't know. You know I went to just when he was up there. You was already the Niggers. You said, cool shot Vaginia got some ship fun with him. That's the difference that you know what you know, what's I go? What's woke up? Every day? I said, I woke up. I love you, wake up. I wake up baby day and I'm a great person. You are. I was excited to come ask everybody was a came like, yo, I'm about to see no re bro like, you don't understand. This takes me back to my when young, Like I got the album up, norf what's seeing the drop? I was, no, So I'm heard this ship and the niggers who who y'all was like some just left here? Oh, I definitely shot it right. I was like, I'm not gonna lie. I was the shot up like this nigga and was that busy? So I'm not that's just me. I don't know. Let me along. You're telling me that's not inspiration for nigga who's in there, and you see some niggas who just got out of there make it. And that's why even Main told me that one time. You're like, nigga, we've seen yall niggas get on He's like, we can get on my phone. I love I love man out here right now trying to get on me on the boat. Shot to me on the boat. Yeah, because it's his birthday. Like hood niggas come out here and celebrate. I don't know what was that somebody bumping to do. Let's sleep. Let's listen. Who is we have murder Gardens relaxed, probably sees we still don told Murder Gardens the hood that murder Guarden. This is legit, right, Okay, I don't know, yo, Signe. I can't thank you more than enough. I can't thank it's been fun. That's been I'm being honestly, but you are in the top three of the three things that came late. I blame you. I didn't when they told me like I need them Lamborghini to I funked up. Okay, we just need to understand who we're supposed to blame. By the way, we're gonna blame him anyway. If you want to ride with it anyway because he's our family. But if you want to be real, but you know what, it was my time. Can I plug my ebble man because we didn't understand who's for you late first? Okay, I gotta take I gotta take partial about if I didn't put her a hunting, I'm gonna take two. It's Vinny's fault. Do you understand I was the one like, this is my shot, nigger. What if they've changed their minds, but we love you never changed the other day and we talked about this. He he said he loved you, though he should sad because I said, yo, and it's gonna probably play. He said yo. I said yo. I said yo, I'm going drink chimps this week. So, um, do you mind if no he should drop her? He no, I'm ruined my ship. I said, well, um, I should have asked you before I started this interview. So he said, would you telling me if you If I would have said no, oh, you wouldn't have did it. I said, absolutely not. I wouldn't did this ship. That's you. I said that. He said, you know what he said, I respect the honesty, I respect God. Any with that, I said not when it did it, bro, whenever when it came up here. Because let's just be clear. You're not in competition. I know, that's what I'm saying. Come on, I want to be clear, like like either the Swag swag, like the black Gloves. Never excuse me. We have never, of course, been a competition to anybody, anybody, anybody anybody. Yeah, when I say we're real, my nigga, you noriemember noriega, na nigger? You know DJ J, That's what I'm saying. Bro, y'all, look, let open up for nas. That's gootball, not that nigga. You're a noriegar nigga. That's right. Yeah, do you know what that? I know this e f bro everybody else, God bless you whatever you got and whatever the funk they do, whatever the fun they do. If you're paying hip hop history to whoever, nobody. But here's a young boy. The young they young, they know better than that. He knew, brother, he knew, he knew, you knew, but he me credit for no one. He knew, he knew, he played that, he played that. But when it comes to real hip hop, real commentary, Yeah, I don't care about whoever will ever do because nobody the enemy fun with us. Yea, who don't fun with you? You know, like they want to come into us. I think, Dad, he can't everybody. I mean, you know who asked to come father your paring. He asked me, it's about time. OH got you. We're gonna hold you down as good because your belt and I was coming in. They say y'all fantastic, And you asked, I told you I got you. Blessed as manager Brownsville. He said, Yo, yourns album, you're nos albums over say so album. Yeah, yeah, my album was coming out the next week. I was shaking in my boots because what made this? But I kept doing it, kept up with him though strange music, but my ship is a classic bro. I got so much of this ain't too many. I got a song with g rap We first we did the letter p where we did all P words, Papa, pussy person for purposely perpetrating, point the pistol and pull at this punkers in person neating my people pack p E d nins for prime time. They parolling my popsey. I'm picking up pomp pounds personally. I preached prophecy. These punks putting out poems and pimping, pushing the property. Please, people ain't prepared to be persuaded by political path phrases they're printing in the papers on position in my piers pump pumper, put the down to the pig and just I'll pull with you people into peach to let it people what it put in the paragraph so perfectly, but now we didn't know one little worse and that we did in that, let's do it, tell it out what we're calling. And so we're gonna start a solo. Then we're gonna bring it like they call it ms motherfucking metaphorical fire, most fair, my flow, my fashions, more flyer, matter of fact, the mass is familiar, getting my fun, for my family, my future, my friends, my four or five tuk, my fault, my face, my favorite, my father, my feelings, my friend for mama, favorite material. God, there we go, watching motherfucker's mich eating for my fate is to be more famous than Morgan seeming more fighting, making fucking microphones now function When in that fuss room, your motherfucker's mom is a muffin man. If that's the mythus and Mike I don't little the white person anyway, A little little white person got at me, so I didn't I did. That was the DNA said, I don't read any fighting little a little You're sweetest, sweetest. That one was sweetest the sick. Look like what one time we're doing in fing whatever that was. We're following you, bro, whatever you go, whatever you go, bro, whatever you go, you gotta start to clap to us. Well you could do it. It's like this is like the no no, not to You're you're killing it so much. And you know, IMNA say, you know what I'm saying, knows I see. I looked, but I looked. I said, you want to beat, You want to beat. You don't think you'll think your story be It's not like it's not loud. No, we don't need to be. Didn't it beat? You don't need to beat. Just one more give us like twenty six, Just give us a like rap your whole fucking album. I understand. This is one of the best days of my days in this big music business. It's one of our best days. We'll also make you run. Nori, Super's just drinking. Let's do it, super Norri brow many time I said that away here. I said, we love you, bro I was telling me all that. I said, no, this ain't just drink it. Let's give us let no sound good. Yeah, funk with a little baby. But little pump is a little chump. I bought a little yachtie and give him some little lumps, probably just because I'm older and got me a little grump. I'm gonna kids get in the rover a little out of getting some bumps, a little dirt, putting them work the fucking little perk through space to slap the ship out. That little smirk, little boothy told a little boozy take up that little skirt. Someone still chilling this fellers just got a little hurt little and keep a little gram and this little and that can be high that dips at bird killer kid a little fish fissical that he was hot for a little bit. Me a little fame at little beef over little ship. You will endo that story, beef man, No, because faming like how could you niggle? We had to pack, but that rhynd was crazy. You don't want to finish that round. It's all I'm gonna finishing from the album. That's all. I feel like you should have finished the whole rhynd. I'm letting go the whole. Just what I'm saying here, the rest of that ship. Get the Triple seven were killed. That you killed that. But what happened when you a little fame? What happened? We made a song, we didn't like it, and we decided to box over. You fought a little fame. Yeah, I always challenged nigger to I challenge you to a dull, little fake cald fight. Let me please tell me he could fight, because I feel like he can't. He can fight. They can punch me in my face for no reason. That was wrong. There was a reason. We're just going there, felt Billy is Billy famous, my nigger, that's my brother. This is brother's fight. This fight again. No, I told you what I said early on. It was mine. It got to the point everybody was like, we thought you were scared of the nigga. I'm please my verse. They say, I don't like your verse, they said, he said they punched me in the face. It was my song and I wanted them on it. No, he pushed me in the face and said your verse. No. He because it was a money thing. And I thought he thought, you know, it's shout the little fame man because it's hard to talk. It's hard to talk about your brother, even though it's it's real. But he punched me. The thing I don't like about the situation is he punched me in my face for no reason. You said you change your verse. No, I changed the reason why you shouldn't should have never pushed me the faces a lot of money. He said it over money. I let him understand. I'm not the right neggata punch in the face. But like that, y'all square it up. I'm very confused because you know he jumped on the bad No, all right, check it out. I had an idea. It was the beat was like seventy thousand beats per minute. It was the fastest in the world. It was d M and my idea was called d m ope. So I'm like, yo, I got this idea d M O P. Where y'all niggas is wrapping the record came out crazy to me, Like to me, never came out. I never put it out because can we hear it? I could play for you. Let's finish the story first, and it's firest to me. To me, it's super fire. Maybe I'm the losing believe. I feel like it's Fame Fame with crazy. Let me let me tell this story. Never came out ever, Let's go ever ever, ever, this is super exclusive. Let's go. So me and Fame did a lot of records to Famous, like one of my closest friends in the business, and the music its like now in the street, but in the music ship. I love Fame, My friends love Fame like we we all funk with We all funk with each other. So me and him never charge each other for records. So me, we did a lot of records with each other's static and all that ship, and we don't charge each other. So when I had an idea, I don't I never really that with Billy. I don't know Billy. I know Fame. Me and Fame got like six seven records together. I never fuck but with E D m o P. It ain't it ain't MP without Billy. So I gotta Beth for them. So I go to my goal. I got this idea is called E D m OP. You think you can get Billy on it? He was like yeah, hell yeah, So I said, yo, I got a band for y'all. Listen to this a band for y'all, A thousand dollars for now, me and me and Fame don't charge each other for records. Got a band for y'all to do in our record and that's what And he said, funk the money. Nah, I can't just be free. But it ain't a lot. But it's something, Lisa Studio whatever, whatever you do that for you, blunt, whatever, it's final. To me, it's fine. I was a piece. So while the record is being created, I'm fucking meeting Billy is going back and forth, were getting the record done. He's being more like responsive than than Fame at the time. So once the record is done, I just sent Billy the thousand dollars and say yo, thousand dollars and was like, Yo, thank y'all. I love it. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't know how they felt about it at the time. So Fame felt like, yo, where's my thousand and I was like no, I said that band for y'all, Like, that's a thousand dollars five hunt of the piece. Like, first of all, we don't even charge each other for I would never charge you, and you called me to do a verse. I'm not charging you. He didn't even asks. I offered the money. You know what I'm saying. I offered it. So then that him then too, because I sent the thousand dollars to Billy and I don't know. I guess Billy kept it. Yeah, I don't know Billy because he was like, Yo, you said Billy has been with my thousand. I said, nah, I sent him that because me and he was talking every day and I wanted to get that out of the way. So after that, it was like, I'm like, bro, But then I come like, yo, I'll give you a thousand dollars. What I'm saying like, I don't, but he wants it seemed like he wanted it to be a problem because I came. I said, like, Yo, my nigga, I'll pay you with How can I make this right because I'm not This is what I told. I'm not never gonna use the record because you're not champion and the ship. If y'all don't champion. If I do a record with you, Nori and you don't love it, I'm not gonna put it out, my nigga. Um I could love it. I love that wreck the E D M O P Ship. I loved it. Them niggas was on the fence with it. So I was like, if y'all want the fence with it, this is y'all brand. Y'all got a way bigger brand than Saigon, So I'm not gonna put it out even though out of a thousand dollars, But fame was whole ship, Like you o me a thousand dollar too, and I'm like, fam, why are you treating me like like you're not treating me like your brother right now? I'm like fans relationship. Yeah, my fame was my nigger. This is where I won't go into details about. We got to hear the record though, I'm not gonna say what happened in the fight, but I'm just gonna let you know who that you said the record, but you wanted to say the fight, and I respected that. I don't you brought the fight, he said record, And I just told you punched me in the fact. You thought nig punched me and that was it. You thought he thought that was that way, and they forgot that part. Yeah, yeah, I just told you punched me my face. It's Brownsville nigger. Mike Tyson can't punched me in the face without without repercussions. I don't you punch. You punched. Men's not brown, flat like, it's black brown browns. Where happened happening downtown Brooklyn. Indeed, right downtown Brooklyn. Coogi Rat was there, Bernard Debt, Sean Brice wife had just slid off for he punched me because we I bought these niggers. To my man like, it's see, this is we should have started. It's a lot, man. I needed five hour to me to get into all my ship. Bro, I'm being honest. You have the guy. He comes with you, bro the whole night. He's first, I apologize, I said, Bro, if it was a miscommunication, how can I make it right? Can I pay you a thousand dollars in it? No? It ain't about the money. Yeah, it ain't about the money, man. So I'm like, what is it about? I said, I'm not using the record. I'm already out of a thousand dollars. I can't recoup that because there's no records coming out. How can we make this right? And he goes, don't you worry about it? Man? So I'm like, we're good. He's like, yeah, the be good. Ten minutes later he's nigga sick on me on some sucker ship. He said that in front of you, in front of everybody, in front of he said it ten times. Everybody kending me was like, yeah, we thought you was scared. And I ain't a lie like him. And Coucibra was there. I try to take like a selfie of us. Nick smack my hand. I was like, wow, and it's that. If that was anybody else in the whole entire world, they ain't smack my hand down. And that's when I was like, what did I didn't do nothing wrong to this that that's just the good guys. I'm over I guess you could overrespect the nigga. Nigga was smacking my hand and this is why I would talk about it, because he did this so he can't look at it and be like, Yo, nigga, Nigga, you did this and you're wrong. He was wrong for that and you We supposed to be brothers and ship and Nigga was the whole day. Brady's here right now, the whole day. Nigga was treating me like ship. I bought everybody to eat and my man Spot in Brooklyn, who owns the spot. We ate probably two thousand dollars for food for free, drinks, food, everything for free, and and the nigga still was just awesome. So when we finally got to leave, the nigger just said the wrong thing and he said, you know, the nigga sigons on this nigger. So I'm like, I'm tapping up everybody, like you know, peace man like side on you. You gotta get you be on something. You gotta get off that bit ship. So I said, my nigga, never put my name and bitching the same since again in your life. He's like, what I said, you heard, don't put my name in bitch in a sentence again in your life, my nigga, He's like, you acting like you want to fight. I said, you want to fight? So when I'm going to take off my ship and then punch me in the face and the rest is drink Champsons, I'm not gonna tell you. You get him up here and asked some happing at that, who a little thing? A little But when you get him up here and be like I heard, but we got you here, bro. Oh, I can't tell you what happened to that, because then I'll be going against the code I'll just tell you I never got that's probably the third or fourth time in my life. And nigga punch my face in forty years, Managa, where nigga punched me my face, that little fair little face for no reason, my nigga. Sure you don't want to address what happened after that? She was dressing because lou face, he's gonna dress everything. No, he won't. He won't say what happened. Let's just he won't say what happened after that. Let's say what happen. Put it like this, man, I don't take too kindly to the nigger putting his hand on me. And if they put his hands on me, it's gonna be repercussions and it's gonna be some damage done. That's It's Brown's real ship all day. And and look at me like when when Brownsville, I'm a d Browns with transplant. I'm not up here like I don't do that. And every song I probably said Browns in one song in my career because I lived in brown was four years, three and a half years of my life. I lived in best Style Flatbush. I'm just Brooklyn what I'm saying. So, but Brownsville is where I got my bones. Ain't a lot. That's where I learned around freight trains and yap change and walk up on niggas and be like you snuff my little brother and be like what like if you had them changed and veil? I woke upon you, like why you slap my sister? Like when you're talking about us, not the change? Do you you're thinking? And it was it was a joke because that that's the ship we was doing in the vil. And so but I lived all over, So I'm not one of the niggas that depend on the place to make me talk. A lot of niggas who talk brown's Ville, Brooklyn Davis, pussy. You ain't what made Brooklyn tough? You you coachailling Floyd from Browns Yeah he made Browns Yes, Shannon Riddick bow redneck bows from the Veil, even Za Judith from the Veil, all these niggas from brown Yeah, but but that's not Yah Smith want still family. That's family. Bro. This this guy right here, you ever see that? Do you mind talk about Blue? You don't see that? Michael Jackson Van that is the staple of Brownsville with the bit with the big Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston logo's on the side that goes Dawn Mother gassing the stone at well Mother is the same from Belmont and and and and fucking Rockaway all every fucking day. That's Blue. That's his father. This is my This is my one of my best this it probably is my best friend in the world. Brady Cash. I hate him sometimes, but I love him to death because we grew up together, so I love him. I'll die for this guy. He'll die for me, so you know what I'm saying. We fight all the time about the smallest ship. Today we almost had a fight with two chicken fingers. Tell me to eat. Yeah, we busted y'all that we had sicken sick and let you know, like, let's get some sicken bigger any Lamborghini. Lamborghini said, we're getting chicken fingers. Whether she likes it or not. Where's the uber Listen? I was texting, Yeah, can we left for telling? This is about we're late? Are we getting them up now? And let's go let's forget it moving right along with yo, I'm not gonna lie. Take at the picture, be look at that picture. Let's get out of there. We're going to the motherfuckering Italian restaurant the village. She's like, you're this guy's camel girl. Right. I'm sorry, I'm not sure if the camel girl and a camel girl. She's an artist. Her name is Danielle Artist. You can put on. Come on, come on, come on, come look at you Italian? Right. We can't tell you. I'll tell you all right, let me let me icing game. Great, I'm great, Yeah, good, let's go. No, great, my friend, let's take let's take a picture. Baby. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, d J E F and n O r E. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. Let's at drink Champs across all platforms at the Real Noriegon, I g at Noriega on Twitter, mine is at Who's Crazy on I g at d J E F N on Twitter, and most importantly, stay up to date with the latest releases, news and merch by going to drink champs dot com. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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