The most serious pollution problem the world faces may just be the corporate contamination of our information systems. In Drilled founder Amy Westervelt’s new book, Brought to You By: How Corporations Warped the Truth, Conned the Public, and Broke Democracy, she reveals how a handful of ideologues, propagandists, and corporate consultants reshaped knowledge production systems using think tanks, courtrooms, universities, and social media. DeSmog investigations editor Matthew Green interviews Amy about the book, followed by a conversation between Drilled senior editor Alleen Brown and Nick Tilsen, founder and CEO of the nonprofit NDN Collective. Nick describes how he and his organization have repeatedly found themselves in the crosshairs of President Trump’s crackdown on the environmental movement. 

Reading list from today's show:

1. Amy Westervelt's new book, Brought to You By: How Corporations Warped the Truth, Conned the Public, and Broke Democracy

2. Matthew Green's interview with Amy Westervelt for Desmog, "Q&A: Amy Westervelt on the Corporate Poisoning of the Information Aquifer — and How to Undo the Harm."

3. Alleen Brown's investigation for Drilled into criminal charges, which appeared to be politically motivated, filed against Nick Tilsen. "An Indigenous Activist was Accused of Trying to Run Over a Cop. Body Cam Footage Shows What Really Happened."

4. Body cam and surveillance footage of Nick Tilsen's arrest.

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The most serious pollution problem the world faces may just be the corporate contamination of our information systems. In Drilled founder Amy Westervelt&rsquo;s new book, Brought to You By: How Corporations Warped the Truth, Conned the Public, and Broke Democracy, she reveals how a handful of ideologues, propagandists, and corporate consultants reshaped knowledge production systems using think tanks, courtrooms, universities, and social media. DeSmog investigations editor Matthew Green interviews Amy about the book, followed by a conversation between Drilled senior editor Alleen Brown and Nick Tilsen, founder and CEO of the nonprofit NDN Collective. Nick describes how he and his organization have repeatedly found themselves in the crosshairs of President Trump&rsquo;s crackdown on the environmental movement.&nbsp;
Reading list from today's show: 1. Amy Westervelt's new book, <a href="https://geni.us/broughttoyouby">Brought to You By: How Corporations Warped the Truth, Conned the Public, and Broke Democracy</a> 2. Matthew Green's interview with Amy Westervelt for Desmog, "<a href="https://www.desmog.com/2026/09/21/qa-amy-westervelt-on-the-corporate-poisoning-of-the-information-aquifer-and-how-to-undo-the-harm/">Q&amp;A: Amy Westervelt on the Corporate Poisoning of the Information Aquifer &mdash; and How to Undo the Harm.</a>" 3. Alleen Brown's investigation for Drilled into criminal charges, which appeared to be politically motivated, filed against Nick Tilsen. "<a href="https://drilled.media/news/tilsen/">An Indigenous Activist was Accused of Trying to Run Over a Cop. Body Cam Footage Shows What Really Happened.</a>" 4. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfzPMlDNo-U">Body cam and surveillance footage</a> of Nick Tilsen's arrest. Like what you heard? You can support Drilled and The Spill by making a <a href="https://fundraising.fracturedatlas.org/critical-frequency">tax-deductible donation</a> or by <a href="https://drilled.media/newsletter/">becoming a paid subscriber</a> to our newsletter.

By 2050, one in eight people are expected to have been displaced by climate change, forcing millions of people to leave their hometowns, their countries of origin, and in many cases their identities behind. For communities all over the world, that time has already come. In this three-part mini series, Drilled global climate justice reporter Nina Lakhani takes us to three Latin American communities, each dealing with climate displacement—and the race to save their community—in a different way, to give listeners a window into the complexities of this issue. Imagine if your kid's school was suddenly submerged in the ocean, or if the government gave you a new house but it was 20 miles away and looked like everyone else's, or if the same country that made the drought worse in your village stole your stuff and put you in prison for the crime of trying to feed your family?



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Drilled is a true-crime climate change podcast exposing how corporate corruption and political operatives built decades of climate denial and delay. Hosted and reported by award-winning investigative climate journalists and led by Amy Westervelt, each season unravels new evidence of deception, disinformation, and the power structures keeping real climate solutions out of reach.

By 2050, one in eight people are expected to have been displaced by climate change, forcing millions of people to leave their hometowns, their countries of origin, and in many cases their identities behind. For communities all over the world, that time has already come. In this three-part mini series, Drilled global climate justice reporter Nina Lakhani takes us to three Latin American communities, each dealing with climate displacement&mdash;and the race to save their community&mdash;in a different way, to give listeners a window into the complexities of this issue. Imagine if your kid's school was suddenly submerged in the ocean, or if the government gave you a new house but it was 20 miles away and looked like everyone else's, or if the same country that made the drought worse in your village stole your stuff and put you in prison for the crime of trying to feed your family?

Get all episodes of Drilled: Displaced early and ad-free with a Pushkin+ subscription. Find Pushkin+ on the Drilled show page on Apple Podcasts or at <a href="http://pushkin.fm/plus">pushkin.fm/plus</a>.

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Drilled is a true-crime climate change podcast exposing how corporate corruption and political operatives built decades of climate denial and delay. Hosted and reported by award-winning investigative climate journalists and led by Amy Westervelt, each season unravels new evidence of deception, disinformation, and the power structures keeping real climate solutions out of reach.

A true-crime podcast about climate change, hosted and reported by award-winning investigative journalist Amy Westervelt.

Drilled: Displaced

By 2050, one in eight people are expected to have been displaced by climate change, forcing millions of people to leave their hometowns, their countries of origin, and in many cases their identities behind. For communities all over the world, that time has already come. In this three-part mini series, Drilled global climate justice reporter Nina Lakhani takes us to three Latin American communities, each dealing with climate displacement—and the race to save their community—in a different way, to give listeners a window into the complexities of this issue. Imagine if your kid's school was suddenly submerged in the ocean, or if the government gave you a new house but it was 20 miles away and looked like everyone else's, or if the same country that made the drought worse in your village stole your stuff and put you in prison for the crime of trying to feed your family?

Drilled is a true-crime climate change podcast exposing how corporate corruption and political operatives built decades of climate denial and delay. Hosted and reported by award-winning investigative climate journalists and led by Amy Westervelt, each season unravels new evidence of deception, disinformation, and the power structures keeping real climate solutions out of reach.

By 2050, one in eight people are expected to have been displaced by climate change, forcing millions of people to leave their hometowns, their countries of origin, and in many cases their identities behind. For communities all over the world, that time has already come. In this three-part mini series, Drilled global climate justice reporter Nina Lakhani takes us to three Latin American communities, each dealing with climate displacement&mdash;and the race to save their community&mdash;in a different way, to give listeners a window into the complexities of this issue. Imagine if your kid's school was suddenly submerged in the ocean, or if the government gave you a new house but it was 20 miles away and looked like everyone else's, or if the same country that made the drought worse in your village stole your stuff and put you in prison for the crime of trying to feed your family?
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Drilled is a true-crime climate change podcast exposing how corporate corruption and political operatives built decades of climate denial and delay. Hosted and reported by award-winning investigative climate journalists and led by Amy Westervelt, each season unravels new evidence of deception, disinformation, and the power structures keeping real climate solutions out of reach.

How to Confront a Polluted Information System | The Spill

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