In  More and More and More, Jean-Baptiste Fressoz shows that the human history of energy is one of accumulation, not substitution.

Here, he talks to reporter Adam Lowenstein about how the "energy transition" frame got so entrenched, why clean-energy innovation is not the same thing as decarbonization; how the fossil fuel industry helped launder pipe dreams of dysfunctional technologies into mainstream climate “solutions”; and much more (and more and more).






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In More and More and More, Jean-Baptiste Fressoz shows that the human history of energy is one of accumulation, not substitution.
Here, he talks to reporter Adam Lowenstein about how the "energy transition" frame got so entrenched, why clean-energy innovation is not the same thing as decarbonization; how the fossil fuel industry helped launder pipe dreams of dysfunctional technologies into mainstream climate “solutions”; and much more (and more and more).
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Drilled is a true-crime climate change podcast exposing how corporate corruption and political operatives built decades of climate denial and delay. Hosted and reported by award-winning investigative climate journalists and led by Amy Westervelt, each season unravels new evidence of deception, disinformation, and the power structures keeping real climate solutions out of reach.

Season 15 coming April 2026.

Drilled is a true-crime climate change podcast exposing how corporate corruption and political operatives built decades of climate denial and delay. Hosted and reported by award-winning investigative climate journalists and led by Amy Westervelt, each season unravels new evidence of deception, disinformation, and the power structures keeping real climate solutions out of reach.
Season 15 coming April 2026.

A true-crime podcast about climate change, hosted and reported by award-winning investigative journalist Amy Westervelt.

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A "Green Transition"? If Only It Were That Simple

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Fernanda Hopenhaym, member of the UN Working Group on Business and Human Rights walks Drilled senior global climate justice reporter Nina Lakhani through the many legal pitfalls companies getting involved in the U.S. seizure of the Venezuelan oil industry might be facing. 

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Fernanda Hopenhaym, member of the<a href="https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/wg-business/members#:~:text=Ms.%20Fernanda%20Hopenhaym%20is%20Co%2DExecutive,America%20dedicated%20to%20corporate%20accountability."> UN Working Group on Business and Human Rights </a>walks Drilled senior global climate justice reporter Nina Lakhani through the many legal pitfalls companies getting involved in the U.S. seizure of the Venezuelan oil industry might be facing. 
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Just Because the U.S. Says It's Legal Doesn't Make It So: Companies Trading in Illegally Seized Venezuelan Oil Face Legal Risk

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It's easy to feel like climate "doesn't matter" as the U.S. descends into fascism. As if climate and democracy are somehow separate issues. In this episode, researcher Oscar Berglund and journalist Amy Westervelt connect the dots between the global backlash to climate protest and the broader repression we're seeing in supposedly democratic countries around the world. 



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It's easy to feel like climate "doesn't matter" as the U.S. descends into fascism. As if climate and democracy are somehow separate issues. In this episode, researcher Oscar Berglund and journalist Amy Westervelt connect the dots between the global backlash to climate protest and the broader repression we're seeing in supposedly democratic countries around the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

How the Backlash to Climate Protest Laid the Groundwork for What We're Seeing in U.S. Cities Today

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When activists Jessica Reznicek and Ruby Montoya take drastic 
measures to halt construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline, they have 
no idea that a shadowy private security contractor called TigerSwan has 
them in its sights. 




Special thanks to:

Alleen Brown and The Intercept (https://theintercept.com/2018/12/30/tigerswan-infiltrator-dakota-access-pipeline-standing-rock/)

You Strike A Match by Julia Shipley (https://grist.org/protest/dakota-access-pipeline-activists-property-destruction/)

Democracy Now (https://www.democracynow.org/)




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When activists Jessica Reznicek and Ruby Montoya take drastic 
measures to halt construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline, they have 
no idea that a shadowy private security contractor called TigerSwan has 
them in its sights. 
 
Special thanks to:
Alleen Brown and The Intercept (<a href="https://theintercept.com/2018/12/30/tigerswan-infiltrator-dakota-access-pipeline-standing-rock/">https://theintercept.com/2018/12/30/tigerswan-infiltrator-dakota-access-pipeline-standing-rock/</a>)
You Strike A Match by Julia Shipley (https://grist.org/protest/dakota-access-pipeline-activists-property-destruction/)
Democracy Now (<a href="https://www.democracynow.org/">https://www.democracynow.org/</a>)
 
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Introducing Lawless Planet: "Surveillance and Sabotage on the Dakota Access Pipeline"

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A "Green Transition"? If Only It Were That Simple

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