Draft is now officially open. This is draft season. John Schmoke and Tony Pauline back with you. Happy holidays everybody. We are getting towards the end of twenty twenty three yearing up for the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. Some declarations, some senior bole invitations, We have a lot of stuff to talk about. Twitter questions. Then we're gonna continue going through our twenty twenty three draft cast players on defense, which will go a lot faster than the offensive side of the ball. So, Tony, how are you right a role?

Draft is now officially open. This is draft season. John Schmoke and Tony Pauline back with you. Happy holidays everybody. We are getting towards the end of twenty twenty three yearing up for the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. Some declarations, some senior bole invitations, We have a lot of stuff to talk about. Twitter questions. Then we're gonna continue going through our twenty twenty three draft cast players on defense, which will go a lot faster than the offensive side of the ball. So, Tony, how are you right a role?

Let's do it, John, hit the other side of the field, the other side of the line of scrimmage, and talk about these defensive rookies, some who have really stood out.

Let's do it, John, hit the other side of the field, the other side of the line of scrimmage, and talk about these defensive rookies, some who have really stood out.

Yeah, they really haven't I think yet. Start in the defensive line where we've had some of those standout players, Tony and I think you have to start with Jalen Carter. I think both of us had him as our top player on the board last year in terms of talent and grade, just dominant. And it was the off the field stuff that had people concerned and worried, But his on the field production has been as dominant as I think we thought it could have been and for a defensive tackle to do that in this rookie year at a position where it sometimes takes some time for these guys to round in the form he's been as advertised.

Yeah, they really haven't I think yet. Start in the defensive line where we've had some of those standout players, Tony and I think you have to start with Jalen Carter. I think both of us had him as our top player on the board last year in terms of talent and grade, just dominant. And it was the off the field stuff that had people concerned and worried, But his on the field production has been as dominant as I think we thought it could have been and for a defensive tackle to do that in this rookie year at a position where it sometimes takes some time for these guys to round in the form he's been as advertised.

And credit to the Eagles, I mean they did it more than a decade ago with the Shan Jackson, the guy who had a lot of off the field issues. Did it with Jordan Davis. I mean, you bring a guy in, you get him out of his element, you get him around all the players and listen, Carter, like you said, was the number one player on the most everybody's draft board, and there was a question of where the Bears going to select him with the number one pick. And then that story broke with all the with the off the field issues or the I should say, the concerns with the that tragic car accident at the Combine. I remember we were at the Combine when that story broke, and then there were some other issues that he was a guy who got by on natural ability, didn't work that hard. But I mean, this is the Jalen Carter that we expected to see. This is the guy that was created number one in the draft. This is the guy that you know, the Bears passed on and then traded down twice actually from the number one pick, and then traded down again with Philadelphia so they could get up and grab him. It's good to see. I mean, it's good to see that, you know, the light has gone on for Carter and he's really, you know, being more than just a real good athlete on the football field. He's working hard and everything's clicking for him.

And credit to the Eagles, I mean they did it more than a decade ago with the Shan Jackson, the guy who had a lot of off the field issues. Did it with Jordan Davis. I mean, you bring a guy in, you get him out of his element, you get him around all the players and listen, Carter, like you said, was the number one player on the most everybody's draft board, and there was a question of where the Bears going to select him with the number one pick. And then that story broke with all the with the off the field issues or the I should say, the concerns with the that tragic car accident at the Combine. I remember we were at the Combine when that story broke, and then there were some other issues that he was a guy who got by on natural ability, didn't work that hard. But I mean, this is the Jalen Carter that we expected to see. This is the guy that was created number one in the draft. This is the guy that you know, the Bears passed on and then traded down twice actually from the number one pick, and then traded down again with Philadelphia so they could get up and grab him. It's good to see. I mean, it's good to see that, you know, the light has gone on for Carter and he's really, you know, being more than just a real good athlete on the football field. He's working hard and everything's clicking for him.

And then two other defensive tackles Tony and these were both Day Day well, Benton was a Day two big Keanu Benton who was with the Steelers in Claijah Canzi. He was a first round pick. You know, two very different players, but both of them have been pretty effective this year and the roles they've been asked to play.

And then two other defensive tackles Tony and these were both Day Day well, Benton was a Day two big Keanu Benton who was with the Steelers in Claijah Canzi. He was a first round pick. You know, two very different players, but both of them have been pretty effective this year and the roles they've been asked to play.

I think Benton has done well in that situation. You didn't know if he was going to hold up a nose tackle. He's done very well at that position. He's had thirty three tackles, he started more than half the season. I think it's been a big win for him and Kancy. Like you said, different type of player. He's more of a one gap type of three technique tackle. Had some more three season injuries, had a hamstring injury, which really set him back. But there were a lot of people, including myself, who weren't really sold on Cancy because of the fact that he was a bit one dimensional. But he was explosive, he was quick, plays with great leverage, and he plays very hard and he's proven that on Sunday.

I think Benton has done well in that situation. You didn't know if he was going to hold up a nose tackle. He's done very well at that position. He's had thirty three tackles, he started more than half the season. I think it's been a big win for him and Kancy. Like you said, different type of player. He's more of a one gap type of three technique tackle. Had some more three season injuries, had a hamstring injury, which really set him back. But there were a lot of people, including myself, who weren't really sold on Cancy because of the fact that he was a bit one dimensional. But he was explosive, he was quick, plays with great leverage, and he plays very hard and he's proven that on Sunday.

Yeah, I was concerned about his power too, Tony. You know, all his wins were quickness. He didn't really run through guys at all. You wondered how he'd hold up there in an NFL season, and he's done, I think better than I thought he would, especially in his first year. One other guy that I thought has done pretty well is Touy Pulotu, who was also a Day two pick. I know, both of us loved his motor coming out last year, and he has turned out to be a very solid player.

Yeah, I was concerned about his power too, Tony. You know, all his wins were quickness. He didn't really run through guys at all. You wondered how he'd hold up there in an NFL season, and he's done, I think better than I thought he would, especially in his first year. One other guy that I thought has done pretty well is Touy Pulotu, who was also a Day two pick. I know, both of us loved his motor coming out last year, and he has turned out to be a very solid player.

Real good pass rusher, a guy who gets a lot of penetration, a disruptive force. They use him standing over tackle, they use him out of a three point stance. You know, it's the fact that Bosa had an injury. Now he's the only guy out there they can key on him. But he's done exceptionally well. And there was talk early on. He could be a late first round pick, fell into the second round, and he's done an exceptional job in a variety of ways, not just a pass rusher. If you watch him play, he's got a good change of direction, makes plays in backside pursuit. And really he's only going to get better as he physically matures and gets bigger and strong, because remember he came out as as another classman, So he's a younger guy, and I think his best football is ahead of him.

Real good pass rusher, a guy who gets a lot of penetration, a disruptive force. They use him standing over tackle, they use him out of a three point stance. You know, it's the fact that Bosa had an injury. Now he's the only guy out there they can key on him. But he's done exceptionally well. And there was talk early on. He could be a late first round pick, fell into the second round, and he's done an exceptional job in a variety of ways, not just a pass rusher. If you watch him play, he's got a good change of direction, makes plays in backside pursuit. And really he's only going to get better as he physically matures and gets bigger and strong, because remember he came out as as another classman, So he's a younger guy, and I think his best football is ahead of him.

All right, let's go out to the edge now, Tony, unless there's another defensive tackle you want to mention.

All right, let's go out to the edge now, Tony, unless there's another defensive tackle you want to mention.

Yeah, the other guy that you got to mention is you know, and we're going to talk about We talked about Steve Avilla last week. I mean again, the the Rams did it with Kobe Turner, the Wake Forest player who a guy who transferred from Richmond, went to wake Forest, had a solid senior year, went to the Shrine game, blew it up at the Shrine game. More again, sort of like your Elijah can't see one gap, three technique tackle. But a guy who for where he was taking a lot of people were surprised he went in the third round. Has had a real good season.

Yeah, the other guy that you got to mention is you know, and we're going to talk about We talked about Steve Avilla last week. I mean again, the the Rams did it with Kobe Turner, the Wake Forest player who a guy who transferred from Richmond, went to wake Forest, had a solid senior year, went to the Shrine game, blew it up at the Shrine game. More again, sort of like your Elijah can't see one gap, three technique tackle. But a guy who for where he was taking a lot of people were surprised he went in the third round. Has had a real good season.

Yeah, and you know we're gonna switch over to the edge now. And you mentioned the Rams, and he was even on my initial list, but you mentioned the Rams, and I think it kind of reminded me of this player. It's someone we talked a lot about last year. And the Rams did not have any high picks last year, but around three they took Byron Young at a Tennessee Tony and he has a revelation, might be a little strong, but he's been a really, really good player for them this year. They've had to rely on a lot of young players on defense, and Byron Young, quite frankly, has been one of them. And he's done a really nice job for them coming out as a rookie.

Yeah, and you know we're gonna switch over to the edge now. And you mentioned the Rams, and he was even on my initial list, but you mentioned the Rams, and I think it kind of reminded me of this player. It's someone we talked a lot about last year. And the Rams did not have any high picks last year, but around three they took Byron Young at a Tennessee Tony and he has a revelation, might be a little strong, but he's been a really, really good player for them this year. They've had to rely on a lot of young players on defense, and Byron Young, quite frankly, has been one of them. And he's done a really nice job for them coming out as a rookie.

He's done an exceptional job for him. I mean, he's a guy who you know, that same quickness and explosion that we saw at Tennessee and then we sow at the senior ball. I mean, he's been unstoppable at times. He was. He was so good that two weeks into camp the Rams penciled him as a starter. And you know, you look at the Rams. You said they had no high picks. That's because they traded them all, you know, for the Staffords and Jay all these other James Stan, all these other players, and you know, they really didn't care about the draft. Now they find that they have to rebuild, and they've done a great job with you know, mid later round picks, late day two picks, and Byron Young is one of them. Somebody I took to somebody in the league. They said, the only reason Byron Young was not a first round pick is because he's twenty five years old, old run, and they feel that he's tapped out. But heck, you know, even if he's tapped out, he's done an exceptional job, creating a lot of pressure up to field, very tough to stop and good for Young and good for the Rams.

He's done an exceptional job for him. I mean, he's a guy who you know, that same quickness and explosion that we saw at Tennessee and then we sow at the senior ball. I mean, he's been unstoppable at times. He was. He was so good that two weeks into camp the Rams penciled him as a starter. And you know, you look at the Rams. You said they had no high picks. That's because they traded them all, you know, for the Staffords and Jay all these other James Stan, all these other players, and you know, they really didn't care about the draft. Now they find that they have to rebuild, and they've done a great job with you know, mid later round picks, late day two picks, and Byron Young is one of them. Somebody I took to somebody in the league. They said, the only reason Byron Young was not a first round pick is because he's twenty five years old, old run, and they feel that he's tapped out. But heck, you know, even if he's tapped out, he's done an exceptional job, creating a lot of pressure up to field, very tough to stop and good for Young and good for the Rams.

Yeah, really nice job by both Young and the Rams. Again, those twenty five year olds. People worry about that, but he stepped in. He's done a really nice job. Of course, one of the top players in the entire draft last year, Tony certainly the top edge guy was will Anderson, and he's come in. You know, I still don't know about the price Houston paid to move up to take him, but at the very least he's certainly shown the league and everyone else why Houston wanted to go up to number threeter draft and he's been pretty darn good on.

Yeah, really nice job by both Young and the Rams. Again, those twenty five year olds. People worry about that, but he stepped in. He's done a really nice job. Of course, one of the top players in the entire draft last year, Tony certainly the top edge guy was will Anderson, and he's come in. You know, I still don't know about the price Houston paid to move up to take him, but at the very least he's certainly shown the league and everyone else why Houston wanted to go up to number threeter draft and he's been pretty darn good on.

The edge, real leader on the field and in the locker room. This is a guy I believe was like week three, his teammates voted him as team captain, So that says something about him. I know he's been nicked up at times, but still, you know, we knew he was a great player, a guy who can rush the passer, did it for three years at Alabama. His sophomore year, the numbers were off the charts. Good change the direction, and again I think it's also one of the reasons that they traded up to get him was because of the leadership and what he showed during the interviews. And that's proven because, as I said, early in the season, his teammates voted him as team captain, which says a lot for a guy who wasn't even in the league for had not even played a month of regular season games at that point.

The edge, real leader on the field and in the locker room. This is a guy I believe was like week three, his teammates voted him as team captain, So that says something about him. I know he's been nicked up at times, but still, you know, we knew he was a great player, a guy who can rush the passer, did it for three years at Alabama. His sophomore year, the numbers were off the charts. Good change the direction, and again I think it's also one of the reasons that they traded up to get him was because of the leadership and what he showed during the interviews. And that's proven because, as I said, early in the season, his teammates voted him as team captain, which says a lot for a guy who wasn't even in the league for had not even played a month of regular season games at that point.

Yeah. A couple other guys I want to mention here, two guys that one I would consider a disappointment. That's Tyree Wilson for the Raiders, Tony who was picked seventh overall. He really hasn't done much of anything this year. And look, we knew about the physical tools. He only had one year of a real production at Texas Tech. And then you know, Lucas van nescat picked at thirteen both of us. I thought that was a little high. He was raw, he's flashed physical ability, but I think that's going to be a couple of year process to kind of get him up and running.

Yeah. A couple other guys I want to mention here, two guys that one I would consider a disappointment. That's Tyree Wilson for the Raiders, Tony who was picked seventh overall. He really hasn't done much of anything this year. And look, we knew about the physical tools. He only had one year of a real production at Texas Tech. And then you know, Lucas van nescat picked at thirteen both of us. I thought that was a little high. He was raw, he's flashed physical ability, but I think that's going to be a couple of year process to kind of get him up and running.

I mean, Wilson came into the draft with an injury. I think was a surprise that the Raiders took him with number seven. So and again you know like van Ness, great size, great speed, great computer numbers, but van Ness wasn't even was not even a consistent starter in Iowa. So when you took these guys, you had to know there were going to be bumps in the road. Maybe they turned out to be really productive, really dynamic defenders down the road, but based on their college film and the you know, the inconsistency, and with Wilson, you know, the injury, you had to know you weren't at least I felt that you weren't going to get a lot of production out of him as rookies and van Ness I was never very high on you know, you know, he's more Barke than bite. Maybe he turns out to be that player, but he was never a really consistent force or consistent starter on an Iowa defense.

I mean, Wilson came into the draft with an injury. I think was a surprise that the Raiders took him with number seven. So and again you know like van Ness, great size, great speed, great computer numbers, but van Ness wasn't even was not even a consistent starter in Iowa. So when you took these guys, you had to know there were going to be bumps in the road. Maybe they turned out to be really productive, really dynamic defenders down the road, but based on their college film and the you know, the inconsistency, and with Wilson, you know, the injury, you had to know you weren't at least I felt that you weren't going to get a lot of production out of him as rookies and van Ness I was never very high on you know, you know, he's more Barke than bite. Maybe he turns out to be that player, but he was never a really consistent force or consistent starter on an Iowa defense.

And then Will McDonald got picked just one selection after van nested by the Jets two selections. Sorry, van Ness went thirteen and when McDonald went number fifteen. And he's part of a passers spike committee. But I think when he's been out there Tony, we've seen that pass rush ability which made the Jets pick him at fifteenth overall.

And then Will McDonald got picked just one selection after van nested by the Jets two selections. Sorry, van Ness went thirteen and when McDonald went number fifteen. And he's part of a passers spike committee. But I think when he's been out there Tony, we've seen that pass rush ability which made the Jets pick him at fifteenth overall.

I mean, I guess I can't disagree with you. You talk to people in the league. They say he's going to be a very good player. He's got to get a little bit bigger, he's got to get a little bit stronger, but they like the flashes. I'm not down on Will McDonald the player. I just think it was a luxury pick and an unnecessary pick for the New York Jets, who are in a win now mode, really needed offensive lineman. If you remember they sat around. They let the Steelers move up and take Broderick Jones, who's doing a good job from it right tackle. A team like the Jets, they also need a receivers. You saw you were watching what Jackson Smith mcgigba is doing. Will McDonald will be a good player two or three years. I just don't understand the fit there for a team that was in a win now mode.

I mean, I guess I can't disagree with you. You talk to people in the league. They say he's going to be a very good player. He's got to get a little bit bigger, he's got to get a little bit stronger, but they like the flashes. I'm not down on Will McDonald the player. I just think it was a luxury pick and an unnecessary pick for the New York Jets, who are in a win now mode, really needed offensive lineman. If you remember they sat around. They let the Steelers move up and take Broderick Jones, who's doing a good job from it right tackle. A team like the Jets, they also need a receivers. You saw you were watching what Jackson Smith mcgigba is doing. Will McDonald will be a good player two or three years. I just don't understand the fit there for a team that was in a win now mode.

Keon White, I think is shown exactly what you expect in terms of him playing in New England, kind of a power rusher. The other guy I want to mention is Bjoji Tony Oh I thought dropped a little bit in the draft. I loved his tape. He dealt with an injury pretty much all offseason. I don't eve think he played in the preseason in the NFL, but he's really come on and he's shown those pass rushing chops that we saw on tape at LSU.

Keon White, I think is shown exactly what you expect in terms of him playing in New England, kind of a power rusher. The other guy I want to mention is Bjoji Tony Oh I thought dropped a little bit in the draft. I loved his tape. He dealt with an injury pretty much all offseason. I don't eve think he played in the preseason in the NFL, but he's really come on and he's shown those pass rushing chops that we saw on tape at LSU.

Big thing guy, underclassman, so you had to know that. You know, he was gonna have to get bigger, he was going to have to get stronger, and he was gonna have to get used to playing at that bigger, stronger weight. So again, sort of like van Ness, sort of like Will McDonald. Ojelari was a guy that you know when you watched him play at LSU. He was very athletic and he was more than just a pass rusher. He could drop off the line. He covered a lot of area in space. He'd get down the line of scrimmage in pursuit with that speed. But it was just a matter of getting accustomed to the size and the strength on Sunday. I think over time, Ojilari could be a real outstanding pick, just as long as he stays healthy and is able to play at a heavier weight.

Big thing guy, underclassman, so you had to know that. You know, he was gonna have to get bigger, he was going to have to get stronger, and he was gonna have to get used to playing at that bigger, stronger weight. So again, sort of like van Ness, sort of like Will McDonald. Ojelari was a guy that you know when you watched him play at LSU. He was very athletic and he was more than just a pass rusher. He could drop off the line. He covered a lot of area in space. He'd get down the line of scrimmage in pursuit with that speed. But it was just a matter of getting accustomed to the size and the strength on Sunday. I think over time, Ojilari could be a real outstanding pick, just as long as he stays healthy and is able to play at a heavier weight.

All right, let's inside linebacker here, Tony Jack Campbell. He was the first linebacker off the board, a first round pick by the Detroit Lions. And obviously, you know, year one for linebackers in this league where basically offenses in a lot of ways are designed to pick on linebackers, you're gonna have moments that aren't the best. But I think Campbell has shown the lines exactly what they wanted when they picked him. And I think all the evidences out there that he's going to be a solid pro.

All right, let's inside linebacker here, Tony Jack Campbell. He was the first linebacker off the board, a first round pick by the Detroit Lions. And obviously, you know, year one for linebackers in this league where basically offenses in a lot of ways are designed to pick on linebackers, you're gonna have moments that aren't the best. But I think Campbell has shown the lines exactly what they wanted when they picked him. And I think all the evidences out there that he's going to be a solid pro.

Yeah, absolutely. And it was a surprise pick. You know, no one really thought that Jack Campbell was going to go as early as he did.

Yeah, absolutely. And it was a surprise pick. You know, no one really thought that Jack Campbell was going to go as early as he did.

But you know, he was.

But you know, he was.

Really solid in all areas. He was well developed, He wasn't dynamic, he wasn't that impact player, but he could play against that. He was a terrific run defender. He was good in pursuit. He was outstanding or he was very confident, I should say, not outstanding in coverage. So you were getting a complete three down linebacker. He was kind of boring if you will, you know, when you compare him to say the Will McDonald's. He didn't have that dynamic persona about his game. But he was just really good in every area and that's what the lines you're getting.

Really solid in all areas. He was well developed, He wasn't dynamic, he wasn't that impact player, but he could play against that. He was a terrific run defender. He was good in pursuit. He was outstanding or he was very confident, I should say, not outstanding in coverage. So you were getting a complete three down linebacker. He was kind of boring if you will, you know, when you compare him to say the Will McDonald's. He didn't have that dynamic persona about his game. But he was just really good in every area and that's what the lines you're getting.

Yeah, a player that wasn't boring is a guy that wasn't even drafted. But we did talk about him a fair amount during the process last year. And that's ivan pace Tony. We saw him at the Senior Bowl. Runs around like a lunatic, fast, violent athletic, but he was just five to ten I think two ten or two fifteen, really undersized linebacker. Was a great blitzer in college and that's carried over and he I think very fortunate he wound up in a defense that does like the blitz a lot.

Yeah, a player that wasn't boring is a guy that wasn't even drafted. But we did talk about him a fair amount during the process last year. And that's ivan pace Tony. We saw him at the Senior Bowl. Runs around like a lunatic, fast, violent athletic, but he was just five to ten I think two ten or two fifteen, really undersized linebacker. Was a great blitzer in college and that's carried over and he I think very fortunate he wound up in a defense that does like the blitz a lot.

Didn't really run all that fast and all lead up to the draft, so you had a guy who was small, or at least he was short, didn't run super fast. But when you watch the film. In college at Cincinnati, he played like his hair was on fire. He was a guy who was constantly around the ball, constantly making plays. And he's a guy who justifies the measurables. He plays a lot bigger and a lot faster. He's football fast and a lot of it is are the instincts. He's got it going on between the ears. And you know, good for him because he's taken hold of his opportunity. I believe he's got seventy seven tackles this season. He's constantly around the action, you know, sells out to make plays. That's what he was in college with Ivan Page. It's just a situation that he didn't meet the measures. He didn't have the computer numbers that teams want. Took a flyar in the as a PFA undrafted free agent, and it's worked for him.

Didn't really run all that fast and all lead up to the draft, so you had a guy who was small, or at least he was short, didn't run super fast. But when you watch the film. In college at Cincinnati, he played like his hair was on fire. He was a guy who was constantly around the ball, constantly making plays. And he's a guy who justifies the measurables. He plays a lot bigger and a lot faster. He's football fast and a lot of it is are the instincts. He's got it going on between the ears. And you know, good for him because he's taken hold of his opportunity. I believe he's got seventy seven tackles this season. He's constantly around the action, you know, sells out to make plays. That's what he was in college with Ivan Page. It's just a situation that he didn't meet the measures. He didn't have the computer numbers that teams want. Took a flyar in the as a PFA undrafted free agent, and it's worked for him.

Yeah. You know, Brian Flores loves the blitz with Minnesota, so he certainly is fit in there, something he did well in college. Let's go to cornerback here, Tony Less. There's any other linebackers you want to bring up before we move on?

Yeah. You know, Brian Flores loves the blitz with Minnesota, so he certainly is fit in there, something he did well in college. Let's go to cornerback here, Tony Less. There's any other linebackers you want to bring up before we move on?

Nope, No, none other perfect.

Nope, No, none other perfect.

Let's go to the defensive backs here. First, few defensive backs selected. I really think except for one, and we'll get to that, you have to be happy with what they've shown you so far. Tony before he got hurt, Christian de Zalez was playing a high brand of football. Devin Witherspoon's dealing with an injury. When he's played, he's been phenomenal. And then even Brian Branch I know it was a safety, but he's like really more of a inside slot cornerback. He was another pick by the Lions in this draft. He's played extremely well. And then throwing Joey Porter Junior. He didn't start the year for Pittsburgh. They like to bring their rookies around slowly. We saw that with the offensive tackle we talked about last week, but since he's been in there, he's played really good football, really good early returns for those four players, which are.

Let's go to the defensive backs here. First, few defensive backs selected. I really think except for one, and we'll get to that, you have to be happy with what they've shown you so far. Tony before he got hurt, Christian de Zalez was playing a high brand of football. Devin Witherspoon's dealing with an injury. When he's played, he's been phenomenal. And then even Brian Branch I know it was a safety, but he's like really more of a inside slot cornerback. He was another pick by the Lions in this draft. He's played extremely well. And then throwing Joey Porter Junior. He didn't start the year for Pittsburgh. They like to bring their rookies around slowly. We saw that with the offensive tackle we talked about last week, but since he's been in there, he's played really good football, really good early returns for those four players, which are.

For the top five DB's picked. Yeah, I think with Porter it's a situation where he's got to learn not to hold receivers because that's going to be a penalty, especially on Sunday, and that was the big knock on him, and he's starting to do that. He's a big, physical guy, he's very athletic, excellent bloodlines, and he's really showing why a lot of us thought he was going to be the third or fourth cornerback first round pick off the board last year, and he fell. Weatherspoon was phenomenal. I mean, when he's on the field, he is phenomenal. He was sort of like saws Gardner from a year ago in his playing, his ability to make plays, his ability to shut down the opponents. Christian Gonzalez was really good from the get go before the injury. And it's kind of interesting because Bill Belichick usually likes to red shirt his rookie players, not him. Christian Gonzalez was so good from the get go he had to put him on the field. Brian Branch is a guy who I loved, I mean I love him throughout the process. I love this tape. The only thing about Brian Branch was he ran a four or five eight to the combine. So what do you draft the guy with four or five ad to combine. You can't draft a defensive fact, you can't draft them in the first round. But as we're seeing, as we talked about with Ivan Pace, you know, Brian Branch may not be forty fast, but he's football fast and he's got it going on between the ears. He's very instinctive and he's a terrific safety without standing ball skills that you can line up over the slot receiver and he's not going to be a liability. So good for Brian Branch.

For the top five DB's picked. Yeah, I think with Porter it's a situation where he's got to learn not to hold receivers because that's going to be a penalty, especially on Sunday, and that was the big knock on him, and he's starting to do that. He's a big, physical guy, he's very athletic, excellent bloodlines, and he's really showing why a lot of us thought he was going to be the third or fourth cornerback first round pick off the board last year, and he fell. Weatherspoon was phenomenal. I mean, when he's on the field, he is phenomenal. He was sort of like saws Gardner from a year ago in his playing, his ability to make plays, his ability to shut down the opponents. Christian Gonzalez was really good from the get go before the injury. And it's kind of interesting because Bill Belichick usually likes to red shirt his rookie players, not him. Christian Gonzalez was so good from the get go he had to put him on the field. Brian Branch is a guy who I loved, I mean I love him throughout the process. I love this tape. The only thing about Brian Branch was he ran a four or five eight to the combine. So what do you draft the guy with four or five ad to combine. You can't draft a defensive fact, you can't draft them in the first round. But as we're seeing, as we talked about with Ivan Pace, you know, Brian Branch may not be forty fast, but he's football fast and he's got it going on between the ears. He's very instinctive and he's a terrific safety without standing ball skills that you can line up over the slot receiver and he's not going to be a liability. So good for Brian Branch.

Now a different type of safety, by the way, But I think we're seeing now with Kyle Hamilton too, right the Ravens are putting him in a right spot. He didn't run all that well. Is that leticism wasn't great, But I think with the safety position, so much of this is instincts and being able to read things and get there quickly and react and stuff like that. And you know, obviously hit Branch and they have very different players in terms of where they play on the field and stuff like that, but just you know, instincts in football fast, those things are really important. Tony one first round corner that we did not mention because he has not really met expectations for Washington this year. That's Emmanuel Forbes. He did start for them at corner to begin the year, did not play well. He had to get bench. He's been playing more since they've brought him back into the lineup, but we all thought he was a little early at sixteen, getting picked ahead of Christian gon Zals a lot of ball production in college, very slender player, and it's been a little bit of a rough go for him to start his NFL career.

Now a different type of safety, by the way, But I think we're seeing now with Kyle Hamilton too, right the Ravens are putting him in a right spot. He didn't run all that well. Is that leticism wasn't great, But I think with the safety position, so much of this is instincts and being able to read things and get there quickly and react and stuff like that. And you know, obviously hit Branch and they have very different players in terms of where they play on the field and stuff like that, but just you know, instincts in football fast, those things are really important. Tony one first round corner that we did not mention because he has not really met expectations for Washington this year. That's Emmanuel Forbes. He did start for them at corner to begin the year, did not play well. He had to get bench. He's been playing more since they've brought him back into the lineup, but we all thought he was a little early at sixteen, getting picked ahead of Christian gon Zals a lot of ball production in college, very slender player, and it's been a little bit of a rough go for him to start his NFL career.

I think he's got a huge number of pass defenses if you look at the stats. But I'm not surprised by this. I never understood the would love for Emmanuel Forbes. He was a twelve thin guy, and you knew he was going to get beaten down on Sundays. I mean, he was more, in my opinion, he was more opportunistic on the college level than he was a real good cornerback. And like you said, yeah, when they took him at sixteen, it was a major surprise. And when you have a need at the cornerback position and you take a guy at sixteen, you expect him to be starting early on. And Forbes can't even break into the starting lineup, which is a major red flag. We'll see what happens. Obviously, there's going to be a lot of changes in that Washington organization. I'm not surprised because I never, at any point in time bought into the low for Forbes.

I think he's got a huge number of pass defenses if you look at the stats. But I'm not surprised by this. I never understood the would love for Emmanuel Forbes. He was a twelve thin guy, and you knew he was going to get beaten down on Sundays. I mean, he was more, in my opinion, he was more opportunistic on the college level than he was a real good cornerback. And like you said, yeah, when they took him at sixteen, it was a major surprise. And when you have a need at the cornerback position and you take a guy at sixteen, you expect him to be starting early on. And Forbes can't even break into the starting lineup, which is a major red flag. We'll see what happens. Obviously, there's going to be a lot of changes in that Washington organization. I'm not surprised because I never, at any point in time bought into the low for Forbes.

Yeah, picked the selection before Christian Gonzales and obviously Joey Porter Junior Winn at the top of round two. So disappointing returns there so far. Two of the guys I want to mention DJ Turner. If I remember Tony, he was one of your favorites, right, Yeah, he's played a lot this year. He has given up some plays this year. Your thoughts on him as a later round pick. And then Makai Blackman has played a lot too, and I think he's had some success early in his NFL career.

Yeah, picked the selection before Christian Gonzales and obviously Joey Porter Junior Winn at the top of round two. So disappointing returns there so far. Two of the guys I want to mention DJ Turner. If I remember Tony, he was one of your favorites, right, Yeah, he's played a lot this year. He has given up some plays this year. Your thoughts on him as a later round pick. And then Makai Blackman has played a lot too, and I think he's had some success early in his NFL career.

Yeah, Micky Beckten has played relatively well for the Minnesota Vikings, who seem eternally in need of a cornerback. So I think that's a good fit there is they started two games before, a guy who selected where he was. He's got a good amount of upside. He's got to get his feet underneath him. And DJ Turner, I mean, Dj Turner's a lot of people thought he could go late first round. I don't know he's his starting corner, but he's going to be. He's a real good nickelback. He's a feisty guy who's constantly around the ball. I mean, you're going to have those bumps in the road but still where Cincinnati got him late in the second round compared to the production that they've gotten back from him, I think that's turned out to be a real good pick.

Yeah, Micky Beckten has played relatively well for the Minnesota Vikings, who seem eternally in need of a cornerback. So I think that's a good fit there is they started two games before, a guy who selected where he was. He's got a good amount of upside. He's got to get his feet underneath him. And DJ Turner, I mean, Dj Turner's a lot of people thought he could go late first round. I don't know he's his starting corner, but he's going to be. He's a real good nickelback. He's a feisty guy who's constantly around the ball. I mean, you're going to have those bumps in the road but still where Cincinnati got him late in the second round compared to the production that they've gotten back from him, I think that's turned out to be a real good pick.

And then safety Jordan Battle, he's played well and I think we all kind of saw him. You know, he didn't test great we talk about safeties, but he's been solid. He was a good all round player at Alabama, and I think he's shown that early in his NFL career as well.

And then safety Jordan Battle, he's played well and I think we all kind of saw him. You know, he didn't test great we talk about safeties, but he's been solid. He was a good all round player at Alabama, and I think he's shown that early in his NFL career as well.

More of your traditional strong safety, if there is such a thing. A guy who's big and physical, guy who can plain in the box, fires up the field. You know, you look at his numbers, his numbers to reflect that. Not the fastest guys, you said, not a sideline to a sideline guy, but more of a downhill safety who's done very well.

More of your traditional strong safety, if there is such a thing. A guy who's big and physical, guy who can plain in the box, fires up the field. You know, you look at his numbers, his numbers to reflect that. Not the fastest guys, you said, not a sideline to a sideline guy, but more of a downhill safety who's done very well.

All right, and I'm gonna bring up one of the rookie year Tony, unless you want to have any other defenders you want to bring up before I give my last little wildcard.

All right, and I'm gonna bring up one of the rookie year Tony, unless you want to have any other defenders you want to bring up before I give my last little wildcard.

Here undrafted safety out of the Rutgers Christianizing and who's with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I mean, here's a guy who is sort of the he's undersized, who's five to ninety change. Ran like a four to four one during his pro day. But he started, has started, hasn't started. He's been used in sort of dining packages. He's got two interceptions. He's been on the field for the Buccaneers, been very productive as a nickel safety. And you know when you get a guy like that as a as a undrafted free agent. I'm looking at a statue right here. Fifty four tackles for the year for Isaian for a guy who wasn't drafted, as well as the interceptions and two pass defenses, I think he's done a terrific job. And that's what he showed at Rutgers. I mean the pamas is he's really short, but he goes sideline to sideline. You know, he plays heads up football and he's very fierce.

Here undrafted safety out of the Rutgers Christianizing and who's with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I mean, here's a guy who is sort of the he's undersized, who's five to ninety change. Ran like a four to four one during his pro day. But he started, has started, hasn't started. He's been used in sort of dining packages. He's got two interceptions. He's been on the field for the Buccaneers, been very productive as a nickel safety. And you know when you get a guy like that as a as a undrafted free agent. I'm looking at a statue right here. Fifty four tackles for the year for Isaian for a guy who wasn't drafted, as well as the interceptions and two pass defenses, I think he's done a terrific job. And that's what he showed at Rutgers. I mean the pamas is he's really short, but he goes sideline to sideline. You know, he plays heads up football and he's very fierce.

All right, Tony, I'm gonna give you one more guy here. And there aren't that many twenty eight year old rookies in the National Football League, but Cowboys kicker Brandon Aubrey has been unbelievable this year. For people that don't know the story, he went to school and Notre Dame. I believe it, won a national championship playing soccer for them, ended up running around. His wife tried to get him to go kick you know, NFL footballs instead of soccer balls. He goes, he goes to the XFL, all these other small leagues, winds up with the Cowboys. All he's done this year Tony is go thirty one of thirty one on his field goals, including eight of eight from fifty plus he's made one from sixty and that when he made from sixty, it looked it hit the net. It looked like it would have been good from seventy. This guy has been the best kicker on football and just an absolute revelation as the Cowboys placekicker. It's an unbelievable story. And he's just been phenomenal this year. It's ridiculous.

All right, Tony, I'm gonna give you one more guy here. And there aren't that many twenty eight year old rookies in the National Football League, but Cowboys kicker Brandon Aubrey has been unbelievable this year. For people that don't know the story, he went to school and Notre Dame. I believe it, won a national championship playing soccer for them, ended up running around. His wife tried to get him to go kick you know, NFL footballs instead of soccer balls. He goes, he goes to the XFL, all these other small leagues, winds up with the Cowboys. All he's done this year Tony is go thirty one of thirty one on his field goals, including eight of eight from fifty plus he's made one from sixty and that when he made from sixty, it looked it hit the net. It looked like it would have been good from seventy. This guy has been the best kicker on football and just an absolute revelation as the Cowboys placekicker. It's an unbelievable story. And he's just been phenomenal this year. It's ridiculous.

And he originally signed with to San Francisco forty nine ers and the Niners cut him, and then the Cowboys didn't realize that. Wow, the Cowboys picked him of the waiver wire. I guess the moral of the story here is listen to your wife, because she knows. She knows what's best for everybody. Of course she knows. You know. Your wife knows that too. Your wife will tell you that to do, But listen to your wife, as Brandon Aubrey's Brandon Aubrey's will tell you.

And he originally signed with to San Francisco forty nine ers and the Niners cut him, and then the Cowboys didn't realize that. Wow, the Cowboys picked him of the waiver wire. I guess the moral of the story here is listen to your wife, because she knows. She knows what's best for everybody. Of course she knows. You know. Your wife knows that too. Your wife will tell you that to do, But listen to your wife, as Brandon Aubrey's Brandon Aubrey's will tell you.

Yeah, just an unbelievable story, unbelievable rookie year for him. All right, let's go through the things sowing to Tony. We getting some bowl games coming up here. We had the Toastery Bowl already happened, which you know, obviously there's a lot of tradition there. You know, a lot of excitement for that one game. I know you wanted to mention which has some interesting players, And is Troy visiting Duke in the Birmingham Bowl. And there are a couple of players here, including one that's going to be in the Senior Bowl.

Yeah, just an unbelievable story, unbelievable rookie year for him. All right, let's go through the things sowing to Tony. We getting some bowl games coming up here. We had the Toastery Bowl already happened, which you know, obviously there's a lot of tradition there. You know, a lot of excitement for that one game. I know you wanted to mention which has some interesting players, And is Troy visiting Duke in the Birmingham Bowl. And there are a couple of players here, including one that's going to be in the Senior Bowl.

Well, Graham Barton, the left tackle for Duke. He's a very athletic guy, six four and a half, just under three hundred and ten pounds, probably going to run under five of the combine. He's an athletic pass rusher who's going to be kicked inside the guard on Sunday, and it's probably gonna be using his own blocking system.

Well, Graham Barton, the left tackle for Duke. He's a very athletic guy, six four and a half, just under three hundred and ten pounds, probably going to run under five of the combine. He's an athletic pass rusher who's going to be kicked inside the guard on Sunday, and it's probably gonna be using his own blocking system.

I heard it the Senior boll Tony. They're gonna put Hi at center a little bit too, to see if he probably can do that.

I heard it the Senior boll Tony. They're gonna put Hi at center a little bit too, to see if he probably can do that.

Yeah, and the better he does it all the positions, the more histoic will will rise because the more value has for teams. Now he's going up against Troy, and Troy has a pair of outstanding pass rush to keep an eye on. Javon Solomon. I've not seen his name on any of the postseason All Star games. I may be missing that.

Yeah, and the better he does it all the positions, the more histoic will will rise because the more value has for teams. Now he's going up against Troy, and Troy has a pair of outstanding pass rush to keep an eye on. Javon Solomon. I've not seen his name on any of the postseason All Star games. I may be missing that.

But actually it was announced a couple of days ago. He actually accepted an invite to the Senior Bowl, so he will be in Mobile and that makes.

But actually it was announced a couple of days ago. He actually accepted an invite to the Senior Bowl, so he will be in Mobile and that makes.

A lot of sense. I mean Troy. He goes to Troy, Troyes and Alabama, so a little hometown flavor there. I mean, this is a guy who is He's athletic, he's explosive, makes a lot of plays up the field. I think he's more of your traditional three to four outside linebacker. I think he's a little bit more than just a pass rusher. He ruinds me a little bit of the excuse me the kid from Appalachian State last year that went in the third fourth round that we saw at the Senior Bowl. A little bit undersize, but very athletic, makes a lot of plays up the field. And they have another kid by the name of Richard Juveniuri thirty three pounds went back for another senior season. Both of these guys are real good up the field type guys who'll get a lot of pressure, who can create a lot of havocs. It's going to be a good matchup against Barton of Duke going up against the against these two guys.

A lot of sense. I mean Troy. He goes to Troy, Troyes and Alabama, so a little hometown flavor there. I mean, this is a guy who is He's athletic, he's explosive, makes a lot of plays up the field. I think he's more of your traditional three to four outside linebacker. I think he's a little bit more than just a pass rusher. He ruinds me a little bit of the excuse me the kid from Appalachian State last year that went in the third fourth round that we saw at the Senior Bowl. A little bit undersize, but very athletic, makes a lot of plays up the field. And they have another kid by the name of Richard Juveniuri thirty three pounds went back for another senior season. Both of these guys are real good up the field type guys who'll get a lot of pressure, who can create a lot of havocs. It's going to be a good matchup against Barton of Duke going up against the against these two guys.

A couple of declarations over the past week, Tony, I don't think we mentioned Jeremiah Trotter junior. He did declare from Clemson. Leonard Taylor from Miami, the defensive tackle who we've talked about, he declared. And then the big one is Jaden Daniels put out his declaration as well that he's leaving LSU and going into the NFL Draft. No word to whether or not he's going to go to Mobile with the Senior Bowl, which I think would be smart if he did. And we've seen, you know, guys like Justin Herbert go there, Guys like Baker Mayfield, like really good quarterbacks have gone there, and I think that could help so litify him. You know, I think he's seen as a top fifteen pick right now, but could he be a top ten pick, a top five pick. I think doing Mobile would would help that a lot. If he decided to go that route, it's.

A couple of declarations over the past week, Tony, I don't think we mentioned Jeremiah Trotter junior. He did declare from Clemson. Leonard Taylor from Miami, the defensive tackle who we've talked about, he declared. And then the big one is Jaden Daniels put out his declaration as well that he's leaving LSU and going into the NFL Draft. No word to whether or not he's going to go to Mobile with the Senior Bowl, which I think would be smart if he did. And we've seen, you know, guys like Justin Herbert go there, Guys like Baker Mayfield, like really good quarterbacks have gone there, and I think that could help so litify him. You know, I think he's seen as a top fifteen pick right now, but could he be a top ten pick, a top five pick. I think doing Mobile would would help that a lot. If he decided to go that route, it's.

Kind of it's kind of an interesting situation because if his team, if his agent is getting feedback that Daniels is already a top twelve pick. I doubt we see him at the Senior Bowl because you know, he's not going to bypass Caleb Williams or Drake may No. So if they're pretty certain that he's going to be a top twelve picked, they're probably not going to go to mobile. There's no reason to go to mobile. The other thing with the you know, with with the Senior Bowl is with the quarterbacks, it's basically every position players and specifically their representation and their team have to know what the player's limitations are because you can't go to mobile and basically bomb. Because you go to mobile and your bomb, you're gonna go in the other direction, you go from toal golfpick to you know, bottom around one pick. So that they've got enough there they'll know what they're gonna be has to do in mobile with the pro style passing. Is he capable of that? So you've got to look at it. I agree with you. You got to look at it from both sides of the Spectrum. I agree with you. I think especially at the quarterback position. Philip Rivers, we can go on and on and on. Guys you know Donovan McNabb through the history who went to see you Bowl just had great weeks, Matt Jones, you know, had great weeks and watch their draft stock go through the roof. I think that opportunity is there for capable, especially since we're not going to see for of Jade Daniels, especially since we're not going to see Caleb Williams of Drake May there. It's a it's an interesting decision, but I think what will happen is if his if his team, if his representation is getting feedback that Daniels is you don't want to say a lot, but very likely top twelve pick. We won't see him in h in Mobile at the Senior.

Kind of it's kind of an interesting situation because if his team, if his agent is getting feedback that Daniels is already a top twelve pick. I doubt we see him at the Senior Bowl because you know, he's not going to bypass Caleb Williams or Drake may No. So if they're pretty certain that he's going to be a top twelve picked, they're probably not going to go to mobile. There's no reason to go to mobile. The other thing with the you know, with with the Senior Bowl is with the quarterbacks, it's basically every position players and specifically their representation and their team have to know what the player's limitations are because you can't go to mobile and basically bomb. Because you go to mobile and your bomb, you're gonna go in the other direction, you go from toal golfpick to you know, bottom around one pick. So that they've got enough there they'll know what they're gonna be has to do in mobile with the pro style passing. Is he capable of that? So you've got to look at it. I agree with you. You got to look at it from both sides of the Spectrum. I agree with you. I think especially at the quarterback position. Philip Rivers, we can go on and on and on. Guys you know Donovan McNabb through the history who went to see you Bowl just had great weeks, Matt Jones, you know, had great weeks and watch their draft stock go through the roof. I think that opportunity is there for capable, especially since we're not going to see for of Jade Daniels, especially since we're not going to see Caleb Williams of Drake May there. It's a it's an interesting decision, but I think what will happen is if his if his team, if his representation is getting feedback that Daniels is you don't want to say a lot, but very likely top twelve pick. We won't see him in h in Mobile at the Senior.

Ball yeah, and we Drake May has made his declaration correct, but we have not seen anything from Caleb Williams yet or Marvin Harrison junior. So those are a couple of the big names that we're kind of waiting for in terms of official declarations. Tony. A couple of Senior Bowl acceptances that I want to talk to you about. Two big offensive linemen, and this offensive line class at the Senior Bowl Tony is looking like it's going to be somewhat special. We're probably not going to see Alter or Fashanu there now, you know you can. I guess they are on the classmen, so they can be invited. I'd be surprised if either one went. I hope they do. We'll see. But you know, we talked about a couple offensive Linelan last week that accepted their invitations, but Tyler getting to Lucy Fuaga both accepted this week. So you're looking at those are two potential first round picks. Guitan out of Oklahoma, Fuaga out of Oregon State. We're gonna end. You mentioned Graham Bartn already. That's gonna be a heck of an offensive line group in Mobile Will.

Ball yeah, and we Drake May has made his declaration correct, but we have not seen anything from Caleb Williams yet or Marvin Harrison junior. So those are a couple of the big names that we're kind of waiting for in terms of official declarations. Tony. A couple of Senior Bowl acceptances that I want to talk to you about. Two big offensive linemen, and this offensive line class at the Senior Bowl Tony is looking like it's going to be somewhat special. We're probably not going to see Alter or Fashanu there now, you know you can. I guess they are on the classmen, so they can be invited. I'd be surprised if either one went. I hope they do. We'll see. But you know, we talked about a couple offensive Linelan last week that accepted their invitations, but Tyler getting to Lucy Fuaga both accepted this week. So you're looking at those are two potential first round picks. Guitan out of Oklahoma, Fuaga out of Oregon State. We're gonna end. You mentioned Graham Bartn already. That's gonna be a heck of an offensive line group in Mobile Will.

I just handed in. I just sent in my first mock draft at sports skid It.

I just handed in. I just sent in my first mock draft at sports skid It.

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It was a top nineteen draft. What I did was I didn't go through all thirty two teams. I just did teams that were five hundred or below. Okay, because you don't know what's gonna happen. And both Gotten and Fuega we're in my top nineteen. Guyton is a player from Okley offensive tack from Oklahoma that is loved in some areas of the scouting community. I mean, there was talk about him from some scouts, not everybody, of him being a top ten pick back in October. Because he's big, he's mobile, he's athletics, he's just unpolished.

It was a top nineteen draft. What I did was I didn't go through all thirty two teams. I just did teams that were five hundred or below. Okay, because you don't know what's gonna happen. And both Gotten and Fuega we're in my top nineteen. Guyton is a player from Okley offensive tack from Oklahoma that is loved in some areas of the scouting community. I mean, there was talk about him from some scouts, not everybody, of him being a top ten pick back in October. Because he's big, he's mobile, he's athletics, he's just unpolished.

So there are scouts that have him as as the third offensive lineman in this class.

So there are scouts that have him as as the third offensive lineman in this class.

Then correct ASO and I have him as a third offensive line right now. Fuega, We've talked about him a couple of times. I think he's going to be a top twenty pick because everybody talks about the quarterbacks. Offensive tackle, especially these days, has always been a priority in the draft. He's a right tackle, but he's very athletic. He's strong and he's powerful, but he's not a stiff right tackle. He's not one of these small area right tackles that you've seen in the past. He can get out on the second level, he can pass block, and again for both of these guys, I mean, you know, we see it in those one on one drills all the time through our binocules as we're sitting on the bit of the yard line. If they do well against the smaller pass rushers, you know their draft stock is going to shoot through the roof. You know, Dwan Jones just didn't complete complete the process a couple of years ago last year, I should say, but if he did, he would have been a very early pick based on what he showed in those one on one pass blocking drills the first day of Senior Bowl practice.

Then correct ASO and I have him as a third offensive line right now. Fuega, We've talked about him a couple of times. I think he's going to be a top twenty pick because everybody talks about the quarterbacks. Offensive tackle, especially these days, has always been a priority in the draft. He's a right tackle, but he's very athletic. He's strong and he's powerful, but he's not a stiff right tackle. He's not one of these small area right tackles that you've seen in the past. He can get out on the second level, he can pass block, and again for both of these guys, I mean, you know, we see it in those one on one drills all the time through our binocules as we're sitting on the bit of the yard line. If they do well against the smaller pass rushers, you know their draft stock is going to shoot through the roof. You know, Dwan Jones just didn't complete complete the process a couple of years ago last year, I should say, but if he did, he would have been a very early pick based on what he showed in those one on one pass blocking drills the first day of Senior Bowl practice.

All right, Tony, I am now going to list the other acceptances that the Senior Bowl has announced on Twitter. You don't have to comment on all these names, but pick out one or two that you think are significant and you can knock them off. And I'm gonna butcher some of these names, so I apologize ahead of time. All Right, here we go. We got defensive back out of Kentucky, Andrew Phillips, Tanner BARDERLINI offensive lineman at Wisconsin. We know the history of that program in developing offensive lineman. Johnny Dixon defensive back out of Penn State. Andrew Raim, offensive lineman out of Oklahoma. J D. Bertrand, linebacker out of Notre Dame. Justin E. Boakebee defensive lineman out of Alabama. I probably butchered that long snapper conversation William Molte out of Georgia Lookout. We mentioned Javon Solomon out of Troy at Aefanu Oluhio linebacker out of Washington, Brandon Dorles defensive linemanut of Oregon, Jalen Ford linebacker out of Texas, Theo Johnson Penn State tight end, and Nathaniel Watson linebacker at of Mississippi State. All those guys accepted invitations this week. Take that any direction you want, Tony, Let's go with.

All right, Tony, I am now going to list the other acceptances that the Senior Bowl has announced on Twitter. You don't have to comment on all these names, but pick out one or two that you think are significant and you can knock them off. And I'm gonna butcher some of these names, so I apologize ahead of time. All Right, here we go. We got defensive back out of Kentucky, Andrew Phillips, Tanner BARDERLINI offensive lineman at Wisconsin. We know the history of that program in developing offensive lineman. Johnny Dixon defensive back out of Penn State. Andrew Raim, offensive lineman out of Oklahoma. J D. Bertrand, linebacker out of Notre Dame. Justin E. Boakebee defensive lineman out of Alabama. I probably butchered that long snapper conversation William Molte out of Georgia Lookout. We mentioned Javon Solomon out of Troy at Aefanu Oluhio linebacker out of Washington, Brandon Dorles defensive linemanut of Oregon, Jalen Ford linebacker out of Texas, Theo Johnson Penn State tight end, and Nathaniel Watson linebacker at of Mississippi State. All those guys accepted invitations this week. Take that any direction you want, Tony, Let's go with.

The two Penn State guys. DEEO. Johnson is a guy who's He's got great size, he's got great athleticism. His production is garbage. I mean he when you look at the side speed, he looks like a top seventy five pick. When you look at the consistency on the field and the production, he's more like a UDDFA. So let's see what we get at the Inmobile. Johnny Dixon is interesting. I've always liked Johnny Dixon. I've always thought all along that Caitlin King, their one cornerback has been was overrated coming into the season, and we saw he did not play well this year. And Johnny Dixon is an underrated cornerback. The question with him is speed, So we're gonna watch him, you know, in those deep past drills. And then the uh the linebacker from Washington whose name I won't even attempt to pronounce. He was a real good player for two or three years at Washington, suffered a significant injury and is on the mend. He is a terrific inside linebacker who's got solid cover skills. He's a good run stuffer. It's gonna be why, it's gonna be one of those things where how does he do in the coverage drills against the against the tight ends, against the running backs. Remember the kid from Washington State whose name escapes me right now last year who was just outstanding the linebackerm watching date, who's outstanding in those coverage drills and really elevated his draft stock because he was staying downfield twenty five thirty yards with the running backs, with the tight ends, and you doing a great job in coverage. Knocked away a couple of passes in the end zone. That's what you want to see from the linebackers. That's what the Washington kids got to show when he's in mobile.

The two Penn State guys. DEEO. Johnson is a guy who's He's got great size, he's got great athleticism. His production is garbage. I mean he when you look at the side speed, he looks like a top seventy five pick. When you look at the consistency on the field and the production, he's more like a UDDFA. So let's see what we get at the Inmobile. Johnny Dixon is interesting. I've always liked Johnny Dixon. I've always thought all along that Caitlin King, their one cornerback has been was overrated coming into the season, and we saw he did not play well this year. And Johnny Dixon is an underrated cornerback. The question with him is speed, So we're gonna watch him, you know, in those deep past drills. And then the uh the linebacker from Washington whose name I won't even attempt to pronounce. He was a real good player for two or three years at Washington, suffered a significant injury and is on the mend. He is a terrific inside linebacker who's got solid cover skills. He's a good run stuffer. It's gonna be why, it's gonna be one of those things where how does he do in the coverage drills against the against the tight ends, against the running backs. Remember the kid from Washington State whose name escapes me right now last year who was just outstanding the linebackerm watching date, who's outstanding in those coverage drills and really elevated his draft stock because he was staying downfield twenty five thirty yards with the running backs, with the tight ends, and you doing a great job in coverage. Knocked away a couple of passes in the end zone. That's what you want to see from the linebackers. That's what the Washington kids got to show when he's in mobile.

Yeah, absolutely, And the name of the Washington State player escapes me as well. But he was really good in coverage and he ran really well at the combine as well. All Right, we got a bunch of questions Tony still coming in on Twitter, so we'll get to as many of these as we can in the next ten minutes or so before we say goodbye. A couple questions from Emelia. We'll get to this first one.

Yeah, absolutely, And the name of the Washington State player escapes me as well. But he was really good in coverage and he ran really well at the combine as well. All Right, we got a bunch of questions Tony still coming in on Twitter, so we'll get to as many of these as we can in the next ten minutes or so before we say goodbye. A couple questions from Emelia. We'll get to this first one.

Yeah, just Daily Henley. That name was gonna kill me. Deayon Henley was who was the Washington State linebacker taking in a third round by the Los Angeles Chargers.

Yeah, just Daily Henley. That name was gonna kill me. Deayon Henley was who was the Washington State linebacker taking in a third round by the Los Angeles Chargers.

There you go, Thank you, Emiliol this question for him on Twitter. How good is Malik Neighbors? Do you think he is going to be worthy of a top ten pick in this year's draft?

There you go, Thank you, Emiliol this question for him on Twitter. How good is Malik Neighbors? Do you think he is going to be worthy of a top ten pick in this year's draft?

No. I think he's a very nice wide receiver. But as we've talked about time and time again, he is in my top nineteen in the my mock draft of sports Skeeter. But you're asking top ten. You know, is there a team in the top ten it's gonna need another receiver. As we've talked about before, it's Marvin Harrison and everybody else, and I think Melik Neighbors is the first receiver of that group of everybody else, but I don't think he's good enough to be a top ten selection.

No. I think he's a very nice wide receiver. But as we've talked about time and time again, he is in my top nineteen in the my mock draft of sports Skeeter. But you're asking top ten. You know, is there a team in the top ten it's gonna need another receiver. As we've talked about before, it's Marvin Harrison and everybody else, and I think Melik Neighbors is the first receiver of that group of everybody else, but I don't think he's good enough to be a top ten selection.

Would you have him ahead of all the wide receivers in last year's draft. It's a question from me, not from Twitter. So Jordan Addison, Jackson Statin Jigba, Quentin Johnston. I think those are probably the top three I had there.

Would you have him ahead of all the wide receivers in last year's draft. It's a question from me, not from Twitter. So Jordan Addison, Jackson Statin Jigba, Quentin Johnston. I think those are probably the top three I had there.

Yeah, I'm gonna say now I was partial to Jackson, Smith Nijigba. I had him rated higher the most. I would not put Mylik Neighbors ahead of Smith ni Jigger. There are different types of receivers. I mean, Smith Nigibber is just a tremendous route round where Malik Neighbors is probably more of a better vertical threat, more of a better downfield pass rusher. But I would have a Smith nick Jigba rated higher. Then again, I was very partial towards him.

Yeah, I'm gonna say now I was partial to Jackson, Smith Nijigba. I had him rated higher the most. I would not put Mylik Neighbors ahead of Smith ni Jigger. There are different types of receivers. I mean, Smith Nigibber is just a tremendous route round where Malik Neighbors is probably more of a better vertical threat, more of a better downfield pass rusher. But I would have a Smith nick Jigba rated higher. Then again, I was very partial towards him.

This question in from at Big Blue Hope. What do you think it would take for the Giants? And I'll ask this to any team to move up to the first or second spot in the NFL Draft to get a quarterback. And my initial answer here, Tony, is that, first of all the teams that are in the one and two spots have to not want a quarterback because if they want a quarterback, they ain't going anywhere. They're sitting in there picking. So that would be the first thing I say to that answer. But if let's say the Bears decide to roll with Justin Fields right, and they are willing to move that pick, if they're picking first with the with the Panthers draft pick, I got to imagine there's gonna be a line of at least a half dozen teams offering their house, their vacation house, maybe a child if they have one of those, in an effort to move up to one. Considering the skill level of the top two quarterbacks in this class, so that is going to be a bidding war, and it is going to be expensive.

This question in from at Big Blue Hope. What do you think it would take for the Giants? And I'll ask this to any team to move up to the first or second spot in the NFL Draft to get a quarterback. And my initial answer here, Tony, is that, first of all the teams that are in the one and two spots have to not want a quarterback because if they want a quarterback, they ain't going anywhere. They're sitting in there picking. So that would be the first thing I say to that answer. But if let's say the Bears decide to roll with Justin Fields right, and they are willing to move that pick, if they're picking first with the with the Panthers draft pick, I got to imagine there's gonna be a line of at least a half dozen teams offering their house, their vacation house, maybe a child if they have one of those, in an effort to move up to one. Considering the skill level of the top two quarterbacks in this class, so that is going to be a bidding war, and it is going to be expensive.

What is it going to take. It's probably gonna take a lot more than what the Carolina Panthers had to pay last year because Caleb Williams and Drake May are much higher rated quarterbacks than Bryce Young Probably you could probably say they're much higher rated quarterbacks than Justin Fields. So it's a situation where I agree with you. You know, if New England's sitting there in the two spot, they're taking a quarterback. If Chicago somehow decides they're they're going to roll with Justin Fields, I think that they're asking christ is going to be much higher than what they got from the Panthers last year, who made that move up to get Bryce Young. Even though you know you're the Degiants right now, you're looking at one, two, three, four, fifth or six pick, it's not going to be as big of a jump.

What is it going to take. It's probably gonna take a lot more than what the Carolina Panthers had to pay last year because Caleb Williams and Drake May are much higher rated quarterbacks than Bryce Young Probably you could probably say they're much higher rated quarterbacks than Justin Fields. So it's a situation where I agree with you. You know, if New England's sitting there in the two spot, they're taking a quarterback. If Chicago somehow decides they're they're going to roll with Justin Fields, I think that they're asking christ is going to be much higher than what they got from the Panthers last year, who made that move up to get Bryce Young. Even though you know you're the Degiants right now, you're looking at one, two, three, four, fifth or six pick, it's not going to be as big of a jump.

Yeah, I mean, I think you're looking at minimum of two ones and a really good player, or three ones if you're not going to send the good player in the deal. So that is going to get very very pricey at lofton six. And this is the perfect question for you, Tony, but you're the president of the fan club. Chop Robinson looks much smaller than his height weight and his arms look too short. Am I missing something?

Yeah, I mean, I think you're looking at minimum of two ones and a really good player, or three ones if you're not going to send the good player in the deal. So that is going to get very very pricey at lofton six. And this is the perfect question for you, Tony, but you're the president of the fan club. Chop Robinson looks much smaller than his height weight and his arms look too short. Am I missing something?

Watch the film? You know again, we just went over a bunch of defensive rookies who you know, fell on the draft or weren't even drafted because of the fact that they didn't have those measurables. Chop Robinson is the guy. He does look a little bit small, you know, if his arm length is thirty two inches versus thirty four inches at defensive end. You know, as a pass rusher. It's not a huge deal for me as to say, versus if he was a left tackle. But the guy is just a disruptive force. He's not a wide edge rusher. He's not just a guy that runs wide around the offensive tackle. So if we're watching him play, he has an inside move, he'll slice through double team blocks, he gets out into space and makes a lot of places he can drop off the line of scrimmage. And I mean, and he's been a consistent force and his game is ever improving. So yeah, I want to see what his height and his weight is. I mean, unless his arms are twenty eight inches, it's really not a huge concern of mine between a guy who's got you know, thirty four thirty five inch arms the defensive end and versus say, thirty three inch arms.

Watch the film? You know again, we just went over a bunch of defensive rookies who you know, fell on the draft or weren't even drafted because of the fact that they didn't have those measurables. Chop Robinson is the guy. He does look a little bit small, you know, if his arm length is thirty two inches versus thirty four inches at defensive end. You know, as a pass rusher. It's not a huge deal for me as to say, versus if he was a left tackle. But the guy is just a disruptive force. He's not a wide edge rusher. He's not just a guy that runs wide around the offensive tackle. So if we're watching him play, he has an inside move, he'll slice through double team blocks, he gets out into space and makes a lot of places he can drop off the line of scrimmage. And I mean, and he's been a consistent force and his game is ever improving. So yeah, I want to see what his height and his weight is. I mean, unless his arms are twenty eight inches, it's really not a huge concern of mine between a guy who's got you know, thirty four thirty five inch arms the defensive end and versus say, thirty three inch arms.

All right, this at John Underscore Latini, Where do you think a good spot for Zach Zinder could be? Coming off of the fact that he broke his leg At the end of the year, he might be the draft's best guard, Tony, how do you think that injury affects where he might get picked? And even before the injury where did you have him going?