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The official fear sponsor of the New England Patriots. And we're excited here to be back in studio for another episode of Patriots Draft Countdown. Guys, we had free agency, a lot of moves made by the Patriots, specifically on the defensive side of the ball, and what we just want to discuss here is how's it gonna affect their draft plans? Paul, they were heavy on the defensive side of the ball. What are your takeaways and how they might affect the draft.

The official fear sponsor of the New England Patriots. And we're excited here to be back in studio for another episode of Patriots Draft Countdown. Guys, we had free agency, a lot of moves made by the Patriots, specifically on the defensive side of the ball, and what we just want to discuss here is how's it gonna affect their draft plans? Paul, they were heavy on the defensive side of the ball. What are your takeaways and how they might affect the draft.

Yeah, starting to hear a lot of people being let's say, worried, might be an understatement about neglecting the offense. I have to think that they're going to lean a little bit more heavily on that side of the ball come draft time. Now, the problem with that is that's great in theory, but how does it work out in practice?

Yeah, starting to hear a lot of people being let's say, worried, might be an understatement about neglecting the offense. I have to think that they're going to lean a little bit more heavily on that side of the ball come draft time. Now, the problem with that is that's great in theory, but how does it work out in practice?

Who's available?

Who's available?

You need a left tackle, you need more than just a left tackle up front, you need a wide receiver. Will those spots be worthy of taking someone at number four with those positions? I should say that time will tell, but I have to think they're going to weigh heavily on offense.

You need a left tackle, you need more than just a left tackle up front, you need a wide receiver. Will those spots be worthy of taking someone at number four with those positions? I should say that time will tell, but I have to think they're going to weigh heavily on offense.

Mike Evan, you.

Mike Evan, you.

Put out another mock draft this week. How did the free agency affect your thoughts.

Put out another mock draft this week. How did the free agency affect your thoughts.

That went into this Monck draft?

That went into this Monck draft?

Yeah, offense. Offense was the first two picks. I mean, I took Campbell and Jayden Higgins from ioways stay with my first two picks. But I think that's really what it came down to when I did that mock drafts order of operations, like at which position do you want to address first? Obviously it's going to depend on which player you have great at higher you know, is it Ted McMillan, and then a tackle, is it Campbell?

Yeah, offense. Offense was the first two picks. I mean, I took Campbell and Jayden Higgins from ioways stay with my first two picks. But I think that's really what it came down to when I did that mock drafts order of operations, like at which position do you want to address first? Obviously it's going to depend on which player you have great at higher you know, is it Ted McMillan, and then a tackle, is it Campbell?

And then a receiver.

And then a receiver.

I think that's the direction that we're headed in. But it's just a matter of, you know, finding the value of where it hit those spots. You mentioned that they need more than just tackle. Do you think one of the benefits of this draft is a very good guard class, a very deep You could probably find a third or fourth round starters at guard in particular, especially with all the tackles that could be guards from college to the pros. So I feel pretty good about them finding another guard that can compete at left guard, maybe even somebody that can flex the center as well. It's gonna be those two positions though, and just what order do you go in and how do you find that best value there?

I think that's the direction that we're headed in. But it's just a matter of, you know, finding the value of where it hit those spots. You mentioned that they need more than just tackle. Do you think one of the benefits of this draft is a very good guard class, a very deep You could probably find a third or fourth round starters at guard in particular, especially with all the tackles that could be guards from college to the pros. So I feel pretty good about them finding another guard that can compete at left guard, maybe even somebody that can flex the center as well. It's gonna be those two positions though, and just what order do you go in and how do you find that best value there?

Yeah, let's took out to you matismos from this last week of free agency.

Yeah, let's took out to you matismos from this last week of free agency.

I mean, the defense is all you want to say, taken care of now, but we still have questions at receiver. The O line has some questions. I think some Patriots fans were a little upset that there are some trades made around the league, and I think the Patriots maybe could have got involved in that. But I mean, now it's April. See what happens at receiver.

I mean, the defense is all you want to say, taken care of now, but we still have questions at receiver. The O line has some questions. I think some Patriots fans were a little upset that there are some trades made around the league, and I think the Patriots maybe could have got involved in that. But I mean, now it's April. See what happens at receiver.

So coming up later in the show, Matisa and Chris Cassidy satdown broke down some of the mock drafts. How teams are you know other I guess pundits around the league view what the Patriots are gonna do. But guys, it seems like we're always kind of coming back to the same names up there at fourth.

So coming up later in the show, Matisa and Chris Cassidy satdown broke down some of the mock drafts. How teams are you know other I guess pundits around the league view what the Patriots are gonna do. But guys, it seems like we're always kind of coming back to the same names up there at fourth.

Overall.

Overall.

For me, though, it seems like a no brainer if Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter is there. And I know we've been saying this for months now, but if those two guys are there, Paul is, are those the slam dunk guys? Is that the best case scenario one of those two.

For me, though, it seems like a no brainer if Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter is there. And I know we've been saying this for months now, but if those two guys are there, Paul is, are those the slam dunk guys? Is that the best case scenario one of those two.

They would be.

They would be.

For me, I absolutely would jump all over Travis Hunter if he were to slip to four. Mike, I'm a little bit more interested in what you might do if those two guys were to not be on the board at number four.

For me, I absolutely would jump all over Travis Hunter if he were to slip to four. Mike, I'm a little bit more interested in what you might do if those two guys were to not be on the board at number four.

Well, that's the hard decision, and I put out a mock traft last week that we'll get into it.

Well, that's the hard decision, and I put out a mock traft last week that we'll get into it.

I'm sure Matisa and.

I'm sure Matisa and.

Chris are going to tear it apart, but you know, just making a case or at least bringing up the discussion for you know, player like Ashtrion genty in. Look, I understand running back, it's a devalue position a little bit this year, and the Patriots have a lot of needs.

Chris are going to tear it apart, but you know, just making a case or at least bringing up the discussion for you know, player like Ashtrion genty in. Look, I understand running back, it's a devalue position a little bit this year, and the Patriots have a lot of needs.

Though, it's just standing out.

Though, it's just standing out.

In my eye that the Patriots were a terrible run team last year, and that might be a way to support Drake May.

In my eye that the Patriots were a terrible run team last year, and that might be a way to support Drake May.

But I think there are a.

But I think there are a.

Lot of, you know, different options. We've talked about Daniel Jeremiah his view of this draft going from ten to thirty even not a lot of change. So it really puts I think, have pressure on the scouting staff to get it right. We don't want to be looking back five years from now and saying, man, we had the stud staring at us in the face at fourth overall and we were trying to fill a need, or we went away from our board and we tried to make something work. I think they just have to nail this pick and get a talented player.

Lot of, you know, different options. We've talked about Daniel Jeremiah his view of this draft going from ten to thirty even not a lot of change. So it really puts I think, have pressure on the scouting staff to get it right. We don't want to be looking back five years from now and saying, man, we had the stud staring at us in the face at fourth overall and we were trying to fill a need, or we went away from our board and we tried to make something work. I think they just have to nail this pick and get a talented player.

Yeah, there's always a chance that that happens in any draft, that somebody slips through the cracks or falls a little bit that ends up being, you know, a great generational player. But I think in a draft like this, fit is going to be a big part of it, whether that's positional needs or just to fit in your system and in your program. And I think for a guy like Mike Rabel that is going to hold some weight in this draft because there's not a big talent gap between the others, not Abdul Carter and Travis Hunter, but everybody else, character and intangibles and fit in. How he's going to help them, you know, and run this program and establish this program might end up being as a big factor in this decision because you might look at the board and you might say, picks four through twelve, we kind of have everybody graded similarly.

Yeah, there's always a chance that that happens in any draft, that somebody slips through the cracks or falls a little bit that ends up being, you know, a great generational player. But I think in a draft like this, fit is going to be a big part of it, whether that's positional needs or just to fit in your system and in your program. And I think for a guy like Mike Rabel that is going to hold some weight in this draft because there's not a big talent gap between the others, not Abdul Carter and Travis Hunter, but everybody else, character and intangibles and fit in. How he's going to help them, you know, and run this program and establish this program might end up being as a big factor in this decision because you might look at the board and you might say, picks four through twelve, we kind of have everybody graded similarly.

So what are going to be the deal breakers?

So what are going to be the deal breakers?

The position that they play, and if the staff likes the guy or not, right like, those are going to end up ultimately being the deal breakers. And that's why when I hear just pick the best player available, I don't know if that necessarily applies to a draft like this.

The position that they play, and if the staff likes the guy or not, right like, those are going to end up ultimately being the deal breakers. And that's why when I hear just pick the best player available, I don't know if that necessarily applies to a draft like this.

And that's an interesting factor that Evan brings up because there are a lot of people that see this as a very level draft in terms whatever number you want to go down to. Is it four, is at five, you know, ten to forty? Is it more like four to forty. There's a lot of people that think there's not a lot to choose from these different guys. So the factors that Evan's talking about might make the difference as to where you lean and Mike, I think you made a really good point about the draft in general, and it's true every year you have to make sure you hit on the picks so you can do what Evan said in say Campbell and Hawkins with your first two picks and say, well, we're addressing the offense.

And that's an interesting factor that Evan brings up because there are a lot of people that see this as a very level draft in terms whatever number you want to go down to. Is it four, is at five, you know, ten to forty? Is it more like four to forty. There's a lot of people that think there's not a lot to choose from these different guys. So the factors that Evan's talking about might make the difference as to where you lean and Mike, I think you made a really good point about the draft in general, and it's true every year you have to make sure you hit on the picks so you can do what Evan said in say Campbell and Hawkins with your first two picks and say, well, we're addressing the offense.

Well, that's if.

Well, that's if.

Those two guys can play so and there's no guarantees of that, and that's what makes it a little bit more difficult. And I think the challenge this year is finding difference making players regardless of position. That's why I kind of lean on the best player available. But I understand what Evan's talking about with fit and culture and all those other things, because there's not a lot to choose from between say Tep McMillan and Tyler Warren and Ashton genty and and you know, Will Campbell this. You know, there's something for everybody. It depends on what your preference happens to be.

Those two guys can play so and there's no guarantees of that, and that's what makes it a little bit more difficult. And I think the challenge this year is finding difference making players regardless of position. That's why I kind of lean on the best player available. But I understand what Evan's talking about with fit and culture and all those other things, because there's not a lot to choose from between say Tep McMillan and Tyler Warren and Ashton genty and and you know, Will Campbell this. You know, there's something for everybody. It depends on what your preference happens to be.

Yeah, like Tech McMillan, sorry Duce, but like Teed McMillan is such a great example of the fit thing because he would be the first receiver since Mike Evans in twenty fourteen to go top fifteen that ran a four or five plus in the forty yard dash. So when you draft Tep McMillan, you have to have a plan of how are we going to use Tep McMillan, How does he fit into our offense?

Yeah, like Tech McMillan, sorry Duce, but like Teed McMillan is such a great example of the fit thing because he would be the first receiver since Mike Evans in twenty fourteen to go top fifteen that ran a four or five plus in the forty yard dash. So when you draft Tep McMillan, you have to have a plan of how are we going to use Tep McMillan, How does he fit into our offense?

And if Josh McDaniels says he's not really my.

And if Josh McDaniels says he's not really my.

Type of receiver, then you don't reach on a player like that in a draft like this because of that.

Type of receiver, then you don't reach on a player like that in a draft like this because of that.

So, like there's so many examples of that.

So, like there's so many examples of that.

You know, Mason Graham, does he have too much overlap with Milon Williams? Like is there going to be redundancy there that now all of a sudden, there's value just isn't as high to the Patriots.

You know, Mason Graham, does he have too much overlap with Milon Williams? Like is there going to be redundancy there that now all of a sudden, there's value just isn't as high to the Patriots.

So you have to be careful in this draft.

So you have to be careful in this draft.

I think of, you know, what's the plan for this player, what's the vision, where's the playing time for him? You know, where is his role going to be in your offense or your defense? Because if you can't make the player work, then then you're in a really tough spot.

I think of, you know, what's the plan for this player, what's the vision, where's the playing time for him? You know, where is his role going to be in your offense or your defense? Because if you can't make the player work, then then you're in a really tough spot.

He's free agency isn't quite over yet though, and there are still some players out there. Kim Robinson's a popular name, you know, Amari Cooper, Stefan Diggs. The Patriots could still make some additions. Do you feel like they still have some holes to plug. With some of those veterans who might cost you a little bit more money, you might not quite get the return you want.

He's free agency isn't quite over yet though, and there are still some players out there. Kim Robinson's a popular name, you know, Amari Cooper, Stefan Diggs. The Patriots could still make some additions. Do you feel like they still have some holes to plug. With some of those veterans who might cost you a little bit more money, you might not quite get the return you want.

I think there are definitely some holes, but we've whiffed on so many receivers. I think a guy like Stefan Diggs, you faced him for the past three years in Buffalo, you played him again last year with the Texans, like I think bringing somebody in like that brings a lot of value to the team. Similar with a Marii Cooper and Mac Hollins kind of brings that in. But you gotta hit nail head there.

I think there are definitely some holes, but we've whiffed on so many receivers. I think a guy like Stefan Diggs, you faced him for the past three years in Buffalo, you played him again last year with the Texans, like I think bringing somebody in like that brings a lot of value to the team. Similar with a Marii Cooper and Mac Hollins kind of brings that in. But you gotta hit nail head there.

All right, Well, that's gonna do it here at this first segment. But we've got a jam Pack show. Hope you'll stick around. We got Evan's got a film breakdown coming up, and then later in the show we'll also break down the quarterbacks in addition to Chris and Matis breaking down the recent mock draft. So jam Pack Show, check out Evan's film review here.

All right, Well, that's gonna do it here at this first segment. But we've got a jam Pack show. Hope you'll stick around. We got Evan's got a film breakdown coming up, and then later in the show we'll also break down the quarterbacks in addition to Chris and Matis breaking down the recent mock draft. So jam Pack Show, check out Evan's film review here.

What's up, everybody, It's Evan Lazarre. Welcome into the Page Treats Draft Countdown film Room. We're gonna talk about the tight ends here today. My top five tight ends in this draft. We're gonna break all these guys down individually here in a second, But I want to start at the top with Penn State's tight end Tyler Warren, top ten projected pick in this class. We get to his film here and show you why he's so highly coveted here in this draft cycle. And I look at Tyler Warren a couple different things that stand out about him on film, the first one being we can play bully ball. We can just be a man amongst boys. This is gronk esque from him in the red zone. So we're gonna just run the sem here out of the slot. And as we roll this play, we're gonna get off some physical coverage. We're gonna get up the seam, and we're just gonna make ourselves available. We're gonna high point the ball over the defender in massam. Right. That's what we can do at six foot five, two hundred and sixty pounds that other tight ends simply cannot do. Now, we know he can play bullyball, we know he can out muscle guys. But I also think that he's got some bursts and some wiggle at the top of the route. So he's gonn run a litle option here, get himself open, and then turn up the field. Nice little inch concept there by Penn State, and then this next clip right now show off that versatility. Now, I don't think that the wildcat is gonna be a big part of what he's gonna bring to the table if he's drafted by the Patriots. But the reason why I want to show you him operating in the wildcat is because of how smooth and explosive he is as a ball carrier in the open field. Again, remember this is a six foot five, two hundred and fifty plus tight end that is moving like a running back. And watch him tightrope the sideline and nearly get into the end zone here. That's pretty rare at that size. The last one here, we have the receiving ability, we have the yards after the catch, and the ball carrying skill. Let's get to the blocking right here on the end of the line of scrimmage, we're gonna get to We're gonna bump this guy over first. Then we're gonna get to the dB here on the outside. And look at the rushing waye that he creates right there for his running back.

What's up, everybody, It's Evan Lazarre. Welcome into the Page Treats Draft Countdown film Room. We're gonna talk about the tight ends here today. My top five tight ends in this draft. We're gonna break all these guys down individually here in a second, But I want to start at the top with Penn State's tight end Tyler Warren, top ten projected pick in this class. We get to his film here and show you why he's so highly coveted here in this draft cycle. And I look at Tyler Warren a couple different things that stand out about him on film, the first one being we can play bully ball. We can just be a man amongst boys. This is gronk esque from him in the red zone. So we're gonna just run the sem here out of the slot. And as we roll this play, we're gonna get off some physical coverage. We're gonna get up the seam, and we're just gonna make ourselves available. We're gonna high point the ball over the defender in massam. Right. That's what we can do at six foot five, two hundred and sixty pounds that other tight ends simply cannot do. Now, we know he can play bullyball, we know he can out muscle guys. But I also think that he's got some bursts and some wiggle at the top of the route. So he's gonn run a litle option here, get himself open, and then turn up the field. Nice little inch concept there by Penn State, and then this next clip right now show off that versatility. Now, I don't think that the wildcat is gonna be a big part of what he's gonna bring to the table if he's drafted by the Patriots. But the reason why I want to show you him operating in the wildcat is because of how smooth and explosive he is as a ball carrier in the open field. Again, remember this is a six foot five, two hundred and fifty plus tight end that is moving like a running back. And watch him tightrope the sideline and nearly get into the end zone here. That's pretty rare at that size. The last one here, we have the receiving ability, we have the yards after the catch, and the ball carrying skill. Let's get to the blocking right here on the end of the line of scrimmage, we're gonna get to We're gonna bump this guy over first. Then we're gonna get to the dB here on the outside. And look at the rushing waye that he creates right there for his running back.

So you can block.

So you can block.

He can catch passes. He can run with the football in his hands. That's why Tyler Warren is a projected top ten pick in this year's class. A couple of other guys I want to highlight here before we wrap this up. Colson Lovelin from Michigan, big, big fan of his. He is more in Natt Travis Kelcey Brock Bauers archetype. If Tyler Warren is like baby Gronk, I would say Colson Lovelin similar to those guys. Explosive receiver bersie and his routes really can make big plays happen in the passing game. He's not a nothing blocker. I'd say he's an above average blocker. But really, what you're getting with Colson Lovelin is a jumbo receiver that can make big plays. A couple other guys here on day two. You want your seam runner, your crosser artist right there with Elijah Royo from Miami. Harold Fannin had that big year last year, record breaking season for Bowling Green. But the last name I want to highlight here is Mason Taylor. We know all about his father, Jason Taylor, from his days with the Miami Dolphins, he's a younger prospect, had a great Senior Bowl week, fantastic ball skills, really natural hands catcher there by Mason Taylor. So those are my top five tight ends. Tyler Warren obvious slee in play there at number four overall for the Patriots, but just in general, a really strong class.

He can catch passes. He can run with the football in his hands. That's why Tyler Warren is a projected top ten pick in this year's class. A couple of other guys I want to highlight here before we wrap this up. Colson Lovelin from Michigan, big, big fan of his. He is more in Natt Travis Kelcey Brock Bauers archetype. If Tyler Warren is like baby Gronk, I would say Colson Lovelin similar to those guys. Explosive receiver bersie and his routes really can make big plays happen in the passing game. He's not a nothing blocker. I'd say he's an above average blocker. But really, what you're getting with Colson Lovelin is a jumbo receiver that can make big plays. A couple other guys here on day two. You want your seam runner, your crosser artist right there with Elijah Royo from Miami. Harold Fannin had that big year last year, record breaking season for Bowling Green. But the last name I want to highlight here is Mason Taylor. We know all about his father, Jason Taylor, from his days with the Miami Dolphins, he's a younger prospect, had a great Senior Bowl week, fantastic ball skills, really natural hands catcher there by Mason Taylor. So those are my top five tight ends. Tyler Warren obvious slee in play there at number four overall for the Patriots, but just in general, a really strong class.

What's up, everybody, I'm a tease bowmen here with Chris Cassi. We got a new segment on the Patriots Draft Countdown podcast presented by Bud Light. We're gonna break down some of the Patriots mock drafts from the experts around the league. This is all available on the patriots dot com mock draft track. We want to talk about it live, so Chris our very own Mike do so we'll get started with it.

What's up, everybody, I'm a tease bowmen here with Chris Cassi. We got a new segment on the Patriots Draft Countdown podcast presented by Bud Light. We're gonna break down some of the Patriots mock drafts from the experts around the league. This is all available on the patriots dot com mock draft track. We want to talk about it live, so Chris our very own Mike do so we'll get started with it.

Sure it up with money?

Sure it up with money?

Has the Patriots select an Ashton genty from Boise State?

Has the Patriots select an Ashton genty from Boise State?

I mean, all right, this is my take on that. All right, Patriots will need a running back in this draft. In my opinion, I think there's a lot of running backs, a lot of depth there. I don't know if you take Ashton, gents have four. Yeah. My only thought here is there's more important needs to be filled and you need you need the ausome tackle. You need a left tackle. You got Morgan Moses. We can play right tackle forever, who has played right tackle forever.

I mean, all right, this is my take on that. All right, Patriots will need a running back in this draft. In my opinion, I think there's a lot of running backs, a lot of depth there. I don't know if you take Ashton, gents have four. Yeah. My only thought here is there's more important needs to be filled and you need you need the ausome tackle. You need a left tackle. You got Morgan Moses. We can play right tackle forever, who has played right tackle forever.

I wish you could play for it.

I wish you could play for it.

Yeah, yeah, but you need the wide receiver and you need the left tackle. You know, Travis Hunter is really appealing there at four Ashton Gentsy. I don't know if he really gets it done for you there. Yeah, I think there's more valuable options if you want to get Ashton gents maybe trade back some sort of scenario like that.

Yeah, yeah, but you need the wide receiver and you need the left tackle. You know, Travis Hunter is really appealing there at four Ashton Gentsy. I don't know if he really gets it done for you there. Yeah, I think there's more valuable options if you want to get Ashton gents maybe trade back some sort of scenario like that.

But so I viewed genty as a luxury pick. I think if the Patriots sooner situation similar to the Bengals in twenty twenty one, I believe, where Joe Burrow hurt his knee, but the team was pretty set. They hurt his knee, they get Jamar Chase. Look where they are Patriots aren't in that situation. We have the quarterback, but we have so many other needs that I don't think it's the right pick.

But so I viewed genty as a luxury pick. I think if the Patriots sooner situation similar to the Bengals in twenty twenty one, I believe, where Joe Burrow hurt his knee, but the team was pretty set. They hurt his knee, they get Jamar Chase. Look where they are Patriots aren't in that situation. We have the quarterback, but we have so many other needs that I don't think it's the right pick.

What I would compare it to as well, though, is like the Derrick Henry coming into the draft, like he has that much promise and he's that good at his position, but he needs to go to a team that specifically needs that needs to fill their running back hole.

What I would compare it to as well, though, is like the Derrick Henry coming into the draft, like he has that much promise and he's that good at his position, but he needs to go to a team that specifically needs that needs to fill their running back hole.

And that being said, Chris, we'll get to this in the next couple episodes. This is a pretty deep running back class. So if you if you pass on genty, you're good. But Deuce, I love the h the ambition, I like it. I like it got the pep talking. So Chris, we move on to Daniel Jeremiah mel kiper ESPN, and we also throw Evan Lazar in there with his mock Draft one point zero. Travis Hunter cornerback, wide receiver.

And that being said, Chris, we'll get to this in the next couple episodes. This is a pretty deep running back class. So if you if you pass on genty, you're good. But Deuce, I love the h the ambition, I like it. I like it got the pep talking. So Chris, we move on to Daniel Jeremiah mel kiper ESPN, and we also throw Evan Lazar in there with his mock Draft one point zero. Travis Hunter cornerback, wide receiver.

I mean, I think that's the most appealing pick YEP in this draft. I mean, you're one two punch in the draft in this twenty twenty five draft. Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter. I think those are your one two guy top two guys in the draft really can step up immediate starters depending on where they're putting them on the ball. Travis Hunter, as we're talking about right now, I mean, he could be your wide receiver one if he wanted to better himself. I think he needs to get his hands in a better spot. I think he's a little bit better defensively. That's just my opinion. But the Patriots need like both sides, you know what I mean. So, however you want to use him, I think Travis Hunter's your guy. You can kind of utilize it and work around it any way you want.

I mean, I think that's the most appealing pick YEP in this draft. I mean, you're one two punch in the draft in this twenty twenty five draft. Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter. I think those are your one two guy top two guys in the draft really can step up immediate starters depending on where they're putting them on the ball. Travis Hunter, as we're talking about right now, I mean, he could be your wide receiver one if he wanted to better himself. I think he needs to get his hands in a better spot. I think he's a little bit better defensively. That's just my opinion. But the Patriots need like both sides, you know what I mean. So, however you want to use him, I think Travis Hunter's your guy. You can kind of utilize it and work around it any way you want.

Yeah, he's optioned one B for me. One A we'll get to later, but one be just him being a receiver. That instinct really helps him be a cornerback as well. But the Patriots added Carlton Davis, so you got Gonzo Davis, you could put Travis Hunter there. So, hey, if you get him, you're scary already.

Yeah, he's optioned one B for me. One A we'll get to later, but one be just him being a receiver. That instinct really helps him be a cornerback as well. But the Patriots added Carlton Davis, so you got Gonzo Davis, you could put Travis Hunter there. So, hey, if you get him, you're scary already.

If you want to use Travis Hunter as a wide receiver primarily, you can still use him in your nickel package. He is, like, he has so much experience playing both sides of the ball. You could throw him out there for twenty five percent of the defensive snaps in a game and he'll be productive for you.

If you want to use Travis Hunter as a wide receiver primarily, you can still use him in your nickel package. He is, like, he has so much experience playing both sides of the ball. You could throw him out there for twenty five percent of the defensive snaps in a game and he'll be productive for you.

And Chris, So those are those are three big names there, Dan, Jemiah melkiper Junior, and our own Evan Lazar. But we'll get onto the pick number three. From mock draft number three, we got Josh Edwards, Chris Japasso from CBS Sports, and Evan Lazar's most recent mock draft two point zero which just went up on Patriots dot Com. They have him taking Will Campbell offensive tackle l now.

And Chris, So those are those are three big names there, Dan, Jemiah melkiper Junior, and our own Evan Lazar. But we'll get onto the pick number three. From mock draft number three, we got Josh Edwards, Chris Japasso from CBS Sports, and Evan Lazar's most recent mock draft two point zero which just went up on Patriots dot Com. They have him taking Will Campbell offensive tackle l now.

Now Will Campbell another guy. I mean, I don't want do you want? Does Armlake matter? Absolutely? I don't think it matters in the case for Will Campbell. I think he's one of the best offensive line blockers in college football. I think he's he's got great speed. Whatever you need him to do, he'll do it. So that being said, as a tackle, you could put him there, I'm sure he'll be productive. Could he maybe be more productive on an interior line position possibly, which we need now? Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, So you kind of have to gauge that situation. I do think Will Campbell will be productive out of tackle spot. Me personally, I don't know if I would go to the Campbell route. I just I don't know. I feel like, again, I'm so set on the Travis Hunter and.

Now Will Campbell another guy. I mean, I don't want do you want? Does Armlake matter? Absolutely? I don't think it matters in the case for Will Campbell. I think he's one of the best offensive line blockers in college football. I think he's he's got great speed. Whatever you need him to do, he'll do it. So that being said, as a tackle, you could put him there, I'm sure he'll be productive. Could he maybe be more productive on an interior line position possibly, which we need now? Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, So you kind of have to gauge that situation. I do think Will Campbell will be productive out of tackle spot. Me personally, I don't know if I would go to the Campbell route. I just I don't know. I feel like, again, I'm so set on the Travis Hunter and.

Well, definitely Chris that being said, But that being said, it's not the sexy pick. That's the least sexy out of all of it. But he's he's a grinder and people forget beginning of the year for twenty four. I mean, he was consensus pick number one before Hunter hit the scene. An Abdol Carter. So, I mean, I don't really believe the arm length thing. I kind of put it like DK Metcalf with the three cone drill. If he can play, you can play. But I'd be okay with it. But out of the people we've mentioned so far, my least favorite.

Well, definitely Chris that being said, But that being said, it's not the sexy pick. That's the least sexy out of all of it. But he's he's a grinder and people forget beginning of the year for twenty four. I mean, he was consensus pick number one before Hunter hit the scene. An Abdol Carter. So, I mean, I don't really believe the arm length thing. I kind of put it like DK Metcalf with the three cone drill. If he can play, you can play. But I'd be okay with it. But out of the people we've mentioned so far, my least favorite.

Yeah, again, I like him a lot, but I think there's more through left tackles in this draft.

Yeah, again, I like him a lot, but I think there's more through left tackles in this draft.

Yep, all right, so Chris, we move on for me. Pick one A. We got Field Yates, Charles Davis, Abdull Carter, Penn State number four, overall.

Yep, all right, so Chris, we move on for me. Pick one A. We got Field Yates, Charles Davis, Abdull Carter, Penn State number four, overall.

Absolute menace on the field. I mean his body like he's your pure edge rusher, Like he's the guy you want to line up week one, and he's going to have immedia production on the field. And I just think on everyone's draft boards, regardless of needs, he's everybody's one one. Yeah, it just comes down to what teams specifically need at that point.

Absolute menace on the field. I mean his body like he's your pure edge rusher, Like he's the guy you want to line up week one, and he's going to have immedia production on the field. And I just think on everyone's draft boards, regardless of needs, he's everybody's one one. Yeah, it just comes down to what teams specifically need at that point.

I mean, Chris, if the Titans take cam Ward, Browns take Sudarry, you're getting one of those other three guys we've said. That being said Abdul Carter, it kind of reminds me of the twenty seventeen draft. The Browns took Miles Garrett. They needed a quarterback. Listen, that draft had Mahomes, Watson, Christian McCaffrey, and they picked Miles Garrett. And I think the Patriots are their best spot because we have the quarterback. So if we can take Abdol cart Are at four, it's from the football guys, you run with it and you're good.

I mean, Chris, if the Titans take cam Ward, Browns take Sudarry, you're getting one of those other three guys we've said. That being said Abdul Carter, it kind of reminds me of the twenty seventeen draft. The Browns took Miles Garrett. They needed a quarterback. Listen, that draft had Mahomes, Watson, Christian McCaffrey, and they picked Miles Garrett. And I think the Patriots are their best spot because we have the quarterback. So if we can take Abdol cart Are at four, it's from the football guys, you run with it and you're good.

I agree. I think he's your one A. Like like you said earlier, I think one A Abdula Carter, one B Travis Hunter. And people are gonna be back and forth on the Travis Hunter pick because they're like, oh, well we have gone zone. Yes, we signed Carlton Davis. Of course those are important, and people again are skeptical at some points of Travis Hunter's wide receiver game. But I just athletically and what you'd be able to do with these guys on the field, I think those have to year one A, one B.

I agree. I think he's your one A. Like like you said earlier, I think one A Abdula Carter, one B Travis Hunter. And people are gonna be back and forth on the Travis Hunter pick because they're like, oh, well we have gone zone. Yes, we signed Carlton Davis. Of course those are important, and people again are skeptical at some points of Travis Hunter's wide receiver game. But I just athletically and what you'd be able to do with these guys on the field, I think those have to year one A, one B.

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Okay, the first position we're breaking down here is the position guys I'm glad that we got last year because it's pretty barren out there as far as the quarterbacks this year. Two guys atop the list though, cam Ward Shadur Sanders, two guys that I think we're all hoping that maybe go in the top five or sorry, top three really and push down Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter maybe to the Patriots. That's probably the most interesting thing about these quarterbacks this year. But Paul's start with you, just what are your impression with those top two guys.

Okay, the first position we're breaking down here is the position guys I'm glad that we got last year because it's pretty barren out there as far as the quarterbacks this year. Two guys atop the list though, cam Ward Shadur Sanders, two guys that I think we're all hoping that maybe go in the top five or sorry, top three really and push down Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter maybe to the Patriots. That's probably the most interesting thing about these quarterbacks this year. But Paul's start with you, just what are your impression with those top two guys.

I would think you nailed the setting there. That's exactly what the Patriots are hoping for both of those guys to go in the top three. I don't think it's gonna happen because to me, it's really not the top two guys. It's the top one guy, cam Ward and then the next guy, Shado Sanders, and I do think there's a gap between Sanders and the rest, but I think there's also a gap between Ward and Sanders. So I'm sort of intrigued. I liked cam Ward at Washington State a lot. I didn't see him as much last year in Miami. I know he was a little sort of up and down. They had an explosive offense, but there's a lot of skills there I think to work with, and I think that you guys would know better coming back from the combine a few weeks ago. It seems like the NFL guys are a little bit more sold on him than they are the rest.

I would think you nailed the setting there. That's exactly what the Patriots are hoping for both of those guys to go in the top three. I don't think it's gonna happen because to me, it's really not the top two guys. It's the top one guy, cam Ward and then the next guy, Shado Sanders, and I do think there's a gap between Sanders and the rest, but I think there's also a gap between Ward and Sanders. So I'm sort of intrigued. I liked cam Ward at Washington State a lot. I didn't see him as much last year in Miami. I know he was a little sort of up and down. They had an explosive offense, but there's a lot of skills there I think to work with, and I think that you guys would know better coming back from the combine a few weeks ago. It seems like the NFL guys are a little bit more sold on him than they are the rest.

Yeah, I think you broke it down perfectly those tiers. The question is just where does Schador fit into all of this and what's his ceiling, what's his floor in terms of where he goes in the draft. Cam Ward feels like a top quarterback prospect a way that he's being discussed by, you know, people that we spoke to at the combine deuce and things like that. So he's a he's got a free arm, you know, loose arm, really can whip the ball anywhere from different arm angles, has that whole like you know, gunslinger playmaker thing that everybody likes nowadays, can run a little bit. I would say that his skill set reminds me the most of like a Russell Wilson type, you know, prime Russell Wilson, with the way that he can throw the ball deep and you know, move around and things like that. But he's he's being talked about it a little bit differently than the rest of this class. And if you're a quarterback needy team, it's just a matter of, you know, do you draft Shadoor Sanders in the first round or do you draft a similar high floor guy like Will Howard or something like that on Day two? And I feel like that's where the Patriots are are circling, you know, crossing their fingers that somebody jumps early Tez we.

Yeah, I think you broke it down perfectly those tiers. The question is just where does Schador fit into all of this and what's his ceiling, what's his floor in terms of where he goes in the draft. Cam Ward feels like a top quarterback prospect a way that he's being discussed by, you know, people that we spoke to at the combine deuce and things like that. So he's a he's got a free arm, you know, loose arm, really can whip the ball anywhere from different arm angles, has that whole like you know, gunslinger playmaker thing that everybody likes nowadays, can run a little bit. I would say that his skill set reminds me the most of like a Russell Wilson type, you know, prime Russell Wilson, with the way that he can throw the ball deep and you know, move around and things like that. But he's he's being talked about it a little bit differently than the rest of this class. And if you're a quarterback needy team, it's just a matter of, you know, do you draft Shadoor Sanders in the first round or do you draft a similar high floor guy like Will Howard or something like that on Day two? And I feel like that's where the Patriots are are circling, you know, crossing their fingers that somebody jumps early Tez we.

Saw Should Sanders at the combine. Does not lack for confidence at all. I said, I think he's got all this dad's confidence, maybe not quite all his dad's skill.

Saw Should Sanders at the combine. Does not lack for confidence at all. I said, I think he's got all this dad's confidence, maybe not quite all his dad's skill.

But what do you think is Should would if this was your team, would you make the move for him? I am a chador guy, But that being said, this is just it's not a strong class. You always see quarterbacks be hyped up. Every year has shades of twenty twenty two with Pickett and rock Party, which is funny because Pickett just won a Super Bowl, won a Super Bowl and party's mister irrelevant. But that being said, I like Shador. He's more of a pro typical quarterback compared to cam Ward. I think the question is if you're one of those teams, is this the guy like you're drafted in one or two? Is that like you're gonna have to bank on him for a couple of years? You want to go through the growing pains again, or maybe get a better player like Abdol Carter or Travis Hunter, which would be bad for the Patriots obviously, and then deal with the growing pains.

But what do you think is Should would if this was your team, would you make the move for him? I am a chador guy, But that being said, this is just it's not a strong class. You always see quarterbacks be hyped up. Every year has shades of twenty twenty two with Pickett and rock Party, which is funny because Pickett just won a Super Bowl, won a Super Bowl and party's mister irrelevant. But that being said, I like Shador. He's more of a pro typical quarterback compared to cam Ward. I think the question is if you're one of those teams, is this the guy like you're drafted in one or two? Is that like you're gonna have to bank on him for a couple of years? You want to go through the growing pains again, or maybe get a better player like Abdol Carter or Travis Hunter, which would be bad for the Patriots obviously, and then deal with the growing pains.

So I was hoping you were gonna talk me into the going overall.

So I was hoping you were gonna talk me into the going overall.

Hey, I feel like I, you know, we come across like Shador can't play at all.

Hey, I feel like I, you know, we come across like Shador can't play at all.

Sometimes I think he's a good player.

Sometimes I think he's a good player.

Yeah, I just think that there's questions of out how good of a player is he going to be?

Yeah, I just think that there's questions of out how good of a player is he going to be?

What's his ceiling?

What's his ceiling?

I think he's really polished actually for this point, you know, pocket poised mechanics. He throws a good ball, but there isn't that wow factor when you watch his tape.

I think he's really polished actually for this point, you know, pocket poised mechanics. He throws a good ball, but there isn't that wow factor when you watch his tape.

Well, that being said too, he's playing behind a very bad offensive line. That being said, some of the teams draft him, would that would draft him don't have the best line, but it'd be interesting to see if he falls in the right place what his potential could be.

Well, that being said too, he's playing behind a very bad offensive line. That being said, some of the teams draft him, would that would draft him don't have the best line, but it'd be interesting to see if he falls in the right place what his potential could be.

Yeah, moving down the list a little bit, Jackson Dart.

Yeah, moving down the list a little bit, Jackson Dart.

Did you see him down to the Senior Bowl?

Did you see him down to the Senior Bowl?

Oh?

Oh?

Yeah, so you got to see the ball week ever apparently.

Yeah, so you got to see the ball week ever apparently.

Well it was for a while there we were talking about he's gonna elevate. It seems like that's maybe settled in a little bit. He's that maybe I don't want to say B level because I'm not sure that Shador is at B level guy, but he's that maybe seems like that third guy to come.

Well it was for a while there we were talking about he's gonna elevate. It seems like that's maybe settled in a little bit. He's that maybe I don't want to say B level because I'm not sure that Shador is at B level guy, but he's that maybe seems like that third guy to come.

He's the wild card.

He's the wild card.

You could fall in love with the traits with Jackson Dart and I would totally understand it. If it was seven on seven, Jackson Dart would would be a top five pick, right. Like, guy can really sling it. He throws a great ball, He's got a great arm. He can throw on the run, he can throw from the pocket. He really has no limitations from a physical standpoint. But he played in one of those college air raid systems. You know, there's a lot of RPO, there's a lot of one read things that were going on for him there at Ole Miss, so like he's going to have to prove that, you know, he can do a little bit more than I think some of the things he showed in college at the next level. But he's got a lot of traits that you can fall in love with. And when you see him in a practice setting, like down in Mobile where he's wearing a non contact jersey and he's just kind of standing there throwing balls in practice, I can tell why people would watch that and say, this guy's got something going here.

You could fall in love with the traits with Jackson Dart and I would totally understand it. If it was seven on seven, Jackson Dart would would be a top five pick, right. Like, guy can really sling it. He throws a great ball, He's got a great arm. He can throw on the run, he can throw from the pocket. He really has no limitations from a physical standpoint. But he played in one of those college air raid systems. You know, there's a lot of RPO, there's a lot of one read things that were going on for him there at Ole Miss, so like he's going to have to prove that, you know, he can do a little bit more than I think some of the things he showed in college at the next level. But he's got a lot of traits that you can fall in love with. And when you see him in a practice setting, like down in Mobile where he's wearing a non contact jersey and he's just kind of standing there throwing balls in practice, I can tell why people would watch that and say, this guy's got something going here.

But you watch his.

But you watch his.

College tape and it's just a roller coaster. It's just a lot of ups and downs.

College tape and it's just a roller coaster. It's just a lot of ups and downs.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, from a pure skills standpoint, I think you can make an argument he's more skilled than Sanders. But everything Evan said is right in that whole Old Miss system. And there's a reason why those quarterbacks and there's some good guys with good skills, like Matt Carrall was a guy obviously the Patriots fans are, you know, mildly familiar with. There's a reason why different teams are giving those guys opportunities because they were enamored with the skill sets. But I think that the system down there, while it's a very effective college system hasn't necessariarily translated. I think if you look back to like Texas Tech, you know, the old Mike Leech Air raid, you know.

I mean, from a pure skills standpoint, I think you can make an argument he's more skilled than Sanders. But everything Evan said is right in that whole Old Miss system. And there's a reason why those quarterbacks and there's some good guys with good skills, like Matt Carrall was a guy obviously the Patriots fans are, you know, mildly familiar with. There's a reason why different teams are giving those guys opportunities because they were enamored with the skill sets. But I think that the system down there, while it's a very effective college system hasn't necessariarily translated. I think if you look back to like Texas Tech, you know, the old Mike Leech Air raid, you know.

Kind of a thing.

Kind of a thing.

A lot of those guys just didn't work, you know when they got to the NFL, and then all of a sudden, Patrick Mahomes came. So maybe Jackson Dart's the guy that sort of breaks them old. I'd be a little bit more skeptical the way Evan sounded. I think he can play. I think physically he's a guy I wouldn't mind taking a chance on in day two as a developmental guy. You mentioned Will Howard also, I would be in on those guys as a developmental guy. But if you think you're gonna like, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna beat the system. I'm gonna take Jackson Dart at twenty two and I'm going to have my guy, I don't think it's gonna work out for you.

A lot of those guys just didn't work, you know when they got to the NFL, and then all of a sudden, Patrick Mahomes came. So maybe Jackson Dart's the guy that sort of breaks them old. I'd be a little bit more skeptical the way Evan sounded. I think he can play. I think physically he's a guy I wouldn't mind taking a chance on in day two as a developmental guy. You mentioned Will Howard also, I would be in on those guys as a developmental guy. But if you think you're gonna like, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna beat the system. I'm gonna take Jackson Dart at twenty two and I'm going to have my guy, I don't think it's gonna work out for you.

Yeah, but I want you don't need to believe in this position too much. But you guys mentioned Will Howard, Riley Leonard, two guys that faced each other in the National Championship Game, and Quinn your is another name I would just throw in there guys that are to have some name brand recognition. But as we get to the draft, you mentioned Will Howard is maybe a guy with a floor and maybe worth working with. But what do you guys think of those those three teas.

Yeah, but I want you don't need to believe in this position too much. But you guys mentioned Will Howard, Riley Leonard, two guys that faced each other in the National Championship Game, and Quinn your is another name I would just throw in there guys that are to have some name brand recognition. But as we get to the draft, you mentioned Will Howard is maybe a guy with a floor and maybe worth working with. But what do you guys think of those those three teas.

It's just interesting you see Quin yours, Will Howard, all those guys, I wonder where they're gonna end up falling because the drop is pre significant. You also have guys like Jalen Milroe, Like, they all have some positive traits. So I think they're gonna end up in the fourth round, like you could take a shot on them. But if that case, you probably said a quarterback, they're gonna develop for a couple of years.

It's just interesting you see Quin yours, Will Howard, all those guys, I wonder where they're gonna end up falling because the drop is pre significant. You also have guys like Jalen Milroe, Like, they all have some positive traits. So I think they're gonna end up in the fourth round, like you could take a shot on them. But if that case, you probably said a quarterback, they're gonna develop for a couple of years.

Day three guys I would agree with with tease, and you know I would. You know, Tyler Shock is a guy that you know, I don't know if if there's ever been a more experienced quarterback.

Day three guys I would agree with with tease, and you know I would. You know, Tyler Shock is a guy that you know, I don't know if if there's ever been a more experienced quarterback.

Coming out of college.

Coming out of college.

I mean seven seasons three at Oregon, three at Texas Tech, and last year at Louisville. Maybe he's too old.

I mean seven seasons three at Oregon, three at Texas Tech, and last year at Louisville. Maybe he's too old.

I really liked him at the Combine in the podium, I just found him. I thought he presented himself well, you.

I really liked him at the Combine in the podium, I just found him. I thought he presented himself well, you.

Know, obviously, you know everybody looks at Jayden Daniels. Now you know he played six years and how you need that experience and.

Know, obviously, you know everybody looks at Jayden Daniels. Now you know he played six years and how you need that experience and.

That's how you do it. So maybe he'll get a look as a Day three guy. Maybe not, I don't know.

That's how you do it. So maybe he'll get a look as a Day three guy. Maybe not, I don't know.

But he's a guy that sort of had some periods of productivity in college.

But he's a guy that sort of had some periods of productivity in college.

Yeah, you mentioned the Howards, the Leonards. I think those guys are backups to maybe low end starter talents just in terms of their ceiling. But Tyler Show is one of those guys that had six foot five, two hundred and twenty five pounds, and.

Yeah, you mentioned the Howards, the Leonards. I think those guys are backups to maybe low end starter talents just in terms of their ceiling. But Tyler Show is one of those guys that had six foot five, two hundred and twenty five pounds, and.

You watch his tape.

You watch his tape.

He's like kind of the Draft Knicks favorite quarterback in this class because he just makes some throws that are just you know, from ridiculous arm angles and stuff like that. There's one of him in the red zone where I don't really know if a human arm is supposed to go at that angle, and he just like kind of flips it almost like underhand to a receiver. And so he does a lot of that kind of stuff on tape that gets clipped and put on Twitter and things like that, and makes the rounds.

He's like kind of the Draft Knicks favorite quarterback in this class because he just makes some throws that are just you know, from ridiculous arm angles and stuff like that. There's one of him in the red zone where I don't really know if a human arm is supposed to go at that angle, and he just like kind of flips it almost like underhand to a receiver. And so he does a lot of that kind of stuff on tape that gets clipped and put on Twitter and things like that, and makes the rounds.

The other guy.

The other guy.

I think that has some upside that teams could take a chance on his Jalen Milroe, I just look at him. His ability to run obviously is a big part of it. But if you build an offense around him like Philly did with Jalen Hurts, and it specializes in the things that he can do, then I do think that you could make a productive offense around Jalen Milroe. A little raw still as a passer, but can really whip it, can run. I would look at him as someone that if you want to bet on trades, you know, those two guys are the trades guys, and then Howard and Riley Leonard and those guys are sort of the floor, you know, backup types.

I think that has some upside that teams could take a chance on his Jalen Milroe, I just look at him. His ability to run obviously is a big part of it. But if you build an offense around him like Philly did with Jalen Hurts, and it specializes in the things that he can do, then I do think that you could make a productive offense around Jalen Milroe. A little raw still as a passer, but can really whip it, can run. I would look at him as someone that if you want to bet on trades, you know, those two guys are the trades guys, and then Howard and Riley Leonard and those guys are sort of the floor, you know, backup types.

I mean, I agree with Evan also with Milroe. You look at the beginning of the college season. I mean they were saying he was going to go top five. So, I mean the talent is there and it'll be very interesting. Maybe gets that backup role, somebody gets hurt, give him a chance, see what happens.

I mean, I agree with Evan also with Milroe. You look at the beginning of the college season. I mean they were saying he was going to go top five. So, I mean the talent is there and it'll be very interesting. Maybe gets that backup role, somebody gets hurt, give him a chance, see what happens.

Yeah, anybody else that I didn't mention that you guys are a particularly interested in and not a big position to need for the Patriots.

Yeah, anybody else that I didn't mention that you guys are a particularly interested in and not a big position to need for the Patriots.

Patriots got lucky. That's all I'm gonna say.

Patriots got lucky. That's all I'm gonna say.

True enough, Drake May last year, so that's going to do it for the quarterback positional preview as well as this episode of Patriots Draft Countdown. We'll back next week when I have a jam packed episode

True enough, Drake May last year, so that's going to do it for the quarterback positional preview as well as this episode of Patriots Draft Countdown. We'll back next week when I have a jam packed episode