If you move somewhere new and hate it… do you stick it out or start over? Mandy and Kathryn have very different answers. In this episode, they get into moving regret, how to decide whether to stay or leave, and the emotional reality of starting over in a new place. Also: creative and surprising ways to cope with grief, the rituals that keep people we’ve lost close, and Kathryn reveals her secret, longstanding hatred of jokes. Mandy and Kathryn’s guest is Carla Fernandez, author of Renegade Grief: A Guide to the Wild Ride of Life After Loss. 

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