Fatherhood does not come with a manual. For a lot of men, it comes with pressure, fear, old patterns, and the quiet belief that they are supposed to figure it out on their own.

In this episode of the Don’t Change Much Podcast, hosts Mike Cameron and Trevor Botkin sit down with Brandon Hay and Dr. David Kuhl for a grounded conversation about fatherhood, community, and the places men finally talk. Mike brings the lens of a proud father watching his son step into adulthood, while Trevor connects the conversation to recovery, ceremony, and the power of finding yourself in a room with other men who understand.

Brandon shares the work behind Black Daddies Club, Sunday Dinners, barbershop conversations, hikes, and community spaces built with Black fathers and men, not for them from a distance. David adds his perspective on why men’s health support works best when it goes where men already are and creates the right conditions for honesty.

Together, they explore what happens when men have spaces where the mask can come down, mentorship can happen naturally, and fatherhood can be figured out in community.

You’ll hear:
Why fatherhood can feel isolating, even when men care deeply
How community spaces help men speak honestly without forcing it
Why support has to be built with men, not handed down to them
How mentorship, food, ceremony, and shared experience can change what men believe is possible

This is a conversation about men, fatherhood, and connection. Not a lecture. Not a fix. Just a reminder that men do not have to figure it all out alone

 

Support This Podcast and Canadian Men's Health Foundation

https://menshealthfoundation.ca/donate/

 

Follow Brandon Hay
Black Daddies Club - https://theblackdaddiesclub.com/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brandonhay8
TedX - Redefining Fatherhood - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__OVH9UnDVk&
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-hay-mes-business-021a332a/





Follow Canadian Men’s Health Foundation
Website - https://menshealthfoundation.ca/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/menshealthfdn/
Facebook - https://facebook.com/menshealthfoundation

 

Follow Mike Cameron
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mikecameron.ca/
Youtube - https://youtube.com/mikecameronspeaks 
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/mikedavidcameron/
X - Mike Cameron (@axiommike) / X 
LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/mikecameron
Website - https://mikecameron.ca/
TedX Talk - https://www.ted.com/talks/mike_cameron_redefining_badass_the_way_we_think_about_strong_is_wrong

 

Follow Trevor Botkin
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/gsnscreative
Muster Point IG - https://www.instagram.com/the_musterpoint
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/gsnscreative
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/trevor-botkin-869ab5143/

Fatherhood does not come with a manual. For a lot of men, it comes with pressure, fear, old patterns, and the quiet belief that they are supposed to figure it out on their own.
In this episode of the Don&rsquo;t Change Much Podcast, hosts Mike Cameron and Trevor Botkin sit down with Brandon Hay and Dr. David Kuhl for a grounded conversation about fatherhood, community, and the places men finally talk. Mike brings the lens of a proud father watching his son step into adulthood, while Trevor connects the conversation to recovery, ceremony, and the power of finding yourself in a room with other men who understand.
Brandon shares the work behind Black Daddies Club, Sunday Dinners, barbershop conversations, hikes, and community spaces built with Black fathers and men, not for them from a distance. David adds his perspective on why men&rsquo;s health support works best when it goes where men already are and creates the right conditions for honesty.
Together, they explore what happens when men have spaces where the mask can come down, mentorship can happen naturally, and fatherhood can be figured out in community.
You&rsquo;ll hear:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Why fatherhood can feel isolating, even when men care deeply</li>
<li aria-level="1">How community spaces help men speak honestly without forcing it</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why support has to be built with men, not handed down to them</li>
<li aria-level="1">How mentorship, food, ceremony, and shared experience can change what men believe is possible</li>
</ul>
This is a conversation about men, fatherhood, and connection. Not a lecture. Not a fix. Just a reminder that men do not have to figure it all out alone
&nbsp;
Support This Podcast and Canadian Men's Health Foundation
<a href="https://menshealthfoundation.ca/donate/">https://menshealthfoundation.ca/donate/</a>
&nbsp;
Follow Brandon Hay
<ul>
<li>Black Daddies Club - <a href="https://theblackdaddiesclub.com/">https://theblackdaddiesclub.com/</a></li>
<li>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/brandonhay8">https://www.instagram.com/brandonhay8</a></li>
<li>TedX - Redefining Fatherhood - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__OVH9UnDVk&amp;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__OVH9UnDVk&amp;</a></li>
<li>LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-hay-mes-business-021a332a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-hay-mes-business-021a332a/</a></li>
</ul>
 
Follow Canadian Men&rsquo;s Health Foundation
<ul>
<li>Website - <a href="https://menshealthfoundation.ca/">https://menshealthfoundation.ca/</a></li>
<li>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/menshealthfdn/">https://www.instagram.com/menshealthfdn/</a></li>
<li>Facebook - https://facebook.com/menshealthfoundation</li>
</ul>
&nbsp;
Follow Mike Cameron
<ul>
<li>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mikecameron.ca/">https://www.instagram.com/mikecameron.ca/</a></li>
<li>Youtube - <a href="https://youtube.com/mikecameronspeaks">https://youtube.com/mikecameronspeaks</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li>Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/mikedavidcameron/">https://www.facebook.com/mikedavidcameron/</a></li>
<li>X - <a href="https://x.com/axiommike">Mike Cameron (@axiommike) / X</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li>LinkedIn -<a href="https://linkedin.com/in/mikecameron"> https://linkedin.com/in/mikecameron </a>Website - <a href="https://mikecameron.ca/">https://mikecameron.ca/ </a>TedX Talk - <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/mike_cameron_redefining_badass_the_way_we_think_about_strong_is_wrong">https://www.ted.com/talks/mike_cameron_redefining_badass_the_way_we_think_about_strong_is_wrong</a></li>
</ul>
&nbsp;
Follow Trevor Botkin
<ul>
<li>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gsnscreative">https://www.instagram.com/gsnscreative</a></li>
<li>Muster Point IG - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/the_musterpoint">https://www.instagram.com/the_musterpoint</a></li>
<li>Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/gsnscreative">https://www.facebook.com/gsnscreative</a></li>
<li>LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/trevor-botkin-869ab5143/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/trevor-botkin-869ab5143/</a></li>
</ul>

The Don’t Change Much Podcast is about men’s mental and physical health and conversations that build awareness, educate and provide simple lifestyle tips to help men and their families take action for better well-being. 

Each episode, host Dan Murphy is joined by Canada’s top influencers, world class athletes and subject matter experts who share their lived experiences and insights for better mental and physical health. 

The goal is to have real conversations about the things so many of us don’t prioritize: lowering stress, eating healthier, getting active and the impacts of not taking care of ourselves. 

Don’t Change Much is all about encouraging men to make simple changes that can have a big impact on their health, their families and their communities. Better health doesn’t have to mean a lifestyle overhaul.

Disclaimer: This podcast is intended for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to provide diagnosis or be a substitute for professional medical advice from a healthcare practitioner. You should not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a medical or health condition. If you have or suspect you have a medical or health problem, promptly consult your healthcare practitioner. While this podcast is carefully reviewed, the Canadian Men's Health Foundation does not take responsibility or liability for the medical accuracy of the information provided by its host or guests and is not liable for any direct or indirect claim, loss or damage arising from use of this podcast. It is the listeners' responsibility to check the accuracy and relevance of the information.

The Don&rsquo;t Change Much Podcast is about men&rsquo;s mental and physical health and conversations that build awareness, educate and provide simple lifestyle tips to help men and their families take action for better well-being.&nbsp;
Each episode, host Dan Murphy is joined by Canada&rsquo;s top influencers, world class athletes and subject matter experts who share their lived experiences and insights for better mental and physical health.&nbsp;
The goal is to have real conversations about the things so many of us don&rsquo;t prioritize: lowering stress, eating healthier, getting active and the impacts of not taking care of ourselves.&nbsp;
Don&rsquo;t Change Much is all about encouraging men to make simple changes that can have a big impact on their health, their families and their communities. Better health doesn&rsquo;t have to mean a lifestyle overhaul.
Disclaimer: This podcast is intended for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to provide diagnosis or be a substitute for professional medical advice from a healthcare practitioner.&nbsp;You should not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a medical or health condition. If you have or suspect you have a medical or health problem, promptly consult your healthcare practitioner. While this podcast is carefully reviewed, the Canadian Men's Health Foundation does not take responsibility or liability for the medical accuracy of the information provided by its host or guests and is not liable for any direct or indirect claim, loss or damage arising from use of this podcast. It is the listeners' responsibility to check the accuracy and relevance of the information.

Don't Change Much

The Don’t Change Much Podcast is a men’s mental and physical health podcast for men who feel overwhelmed, under pressure, or quietly carrying more than they let on.

Hosted by Trevor Botkin and Mike Cameron, the show features honest, stigma-free conversations about men’s health — from mental health and emotional well-being to physical health, stress, anger, relationships, addiction, and resilience.

Twice a month, Trevor and Mike sit down with athletes, health experts, influential Canadians, and people with lived experience to talk about what men are facing right now. These are real conversations about feeling disconnected, struggling in silence, navigating loss or illness, rebuilding after crisis, and learning how to ask for help without shame.

Created by the Canadian Men’s Health Foundation, the trusted voice of men’s health, this podcast blends lived experience with expert-backed insight to help men take action earlier, prevent illness, and build healthier lives for themselves, their families, and their communities.

You don’t need to change everything.
Sometimes, not changing much, but changing something, can save your life.

The Don&rsquo;t Change Much Podcast is a men&rsquo;s mental and physical health podcast for men who feel overwhelmed, under pressure, or quietly carrying more than they let on.
Hosted by Trevor Botkin and Mike Cameron, the show features honest, stigma-free conversations about men&rsquo;s health &mdash; from mental health and emotional well-being to physical health, stress, anger, relationships, addiction, and resilience.
Twice a month, Trevor and Mike sit down with athletes, health experts, influential Canadians, and people with lived experience to talk about what men are facing right now. These are real conversations about feeling disconnected, struggling in silence, navigating loss or illness, rebuilding after crisis, and learning how to ask for help without shame.
Created by the Canadian Men&rsquo;s Health Foundation, the trusted voice of men&rsquo;s health, this podcast blends lived experience with expert-backed insight to help men take action earlier, prevent illness, and build healthier lives for themselves, their families, and their communities.
You don&rsquo;t need to change everything. Sometimes, not changing much, but changing something, can save your life.