In this episode, Mike and Trevor sit down with former federal Health Minister Mark Holland for a conversation about what can happen when looking strong becomes more important than admitting you’re struggling.

 

After losing his seat in 2011, Holland watched much of the life he had built unravel. His political career was gone, his marriage ended, his relationship with his children suffered, and at his lowest point, he made an attempt on his life. But instead of asking for help, he tried to hide what was happening because he was afraid of being seen as weak.

 

Holland talks about where that need to prove himself came from, the toll of spending years in public life, and the realization that some of his worst decisions came when he was completely depleted. He also shares what helped pull him back, including purpose, meaningful work, and his relationship with his kids. The conversation explores what he does differently today, how he recognizes when he’s starting to run himself down, and why working less ultimately helped him become more effective.

 

They also turn to the bigger picture of men’s health in Canada and what Holland learned from leading the country’s health portfolio. For a man who once believed strength meant keeping everything to himself, his experience has given him a very different perspective on what strength actually looks like.





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In this episode, Mike and Trevor sit down with former federal Health Minister Mark Holland for a conversation about what can happen when looking strong becomes more important than admitting you&rsquo;re struggling.
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After losing his seat in 2011, Holland watched much of the life he had built unravel. His political career was gone, his marriage ended, his relationship with his children suffered, and at his lowest point, he made an attempt on his life. But instead of asking for help, he tried to hide what was happening because he was afraid of being seen as weak.
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Holland talks about where that need to prove himself came from, the toll of spending years in public life, and the realization that some of his worst decisions came when he was completely depleted. He also shares what helped pull him back, including purpose, meaningful work, and his relationship with his kids. The conversation explores what he does differently today, how he recognizes when he&rsquo;s starting to run himself down, and why working less ultimately helped him become more effective.
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They also turn to the bigger picture of men&rsquo;s health in Canada and what Holland learned from leading the country&rsquo;s health portfolio. For a man who once believed strength meant keeping everything to himself, his experience has given him a very different perspective on what strength actually looks like.
 
Support This Podcast and Canadian Men's Health Foundation
<a href="https://menshealthfoundation.ca/donate/">https://menshealthfoundation.ca/donate/</a>
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Follow Mark Holland
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Linkedin - <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/mark-holland-70966135">linkedin.com/in/mark-holland-70966135</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
X - @markhollandCA&nbsp;
 
Follow Canadian Men&rsquo;s Health Foundation
Website - <a href="https://menshealthfoundation.ca/">https://menshealthfoundation.ca/</a>
Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/menshealthfdn/">https://www.instagram.com/menshealthfdn/</a>
Facebook - https://facebook.com/menshealthfoundation
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The Don’t Change Much Podcast is about men’s mental and physical health and conversations that build awareness, educate and provide simple lifestyle tips to help men and their families take action for better well-being. 

Each episode, host Dan Murphy is joined by Canada’s top influencers, world class athletes and subject matter experts who share their lived experiences and insights for better mental and physical health. 

The goal is to have real conversations about the things so many of us don’t prioritize: lowering stress, eating healthier, getting active and the impacts of not taking care of ourselves. 

Don’t Change Much is all about encouraging men to make simple changes that can have a big impact on their health, their families and their communities. Better health doesn’t have to mean a lifestyle overhaul.

Disclaimer: This podcast is intended for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to provide diagnosis or be a substitute for professional medical advice from a healthcare practitioner. You should not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a medical or health condition. If you have or suspect you have a medical or health problem, promptly consult your healthcare practitioner. While this podcast is carefully reviewed, the Canadian Men's Health Foundation does not take responsibility or liability for the medical accuracy of the information provided by its host or guests and is not liable for any direct or indirect claim, loss or damage arising from use of this podcast. It is the listeners' responsibility to check the accuracy and relevance of the information.

The Don&rsquo;t Change Much Podcast is about men&rsquo;s mental and physical health and conversations that build awareness, educate and provide simple lifestyle tips to help men and their families take action for better well-being.&nbsp;
Each episode, host Dan Murphy is joined by Canada&rsquo;s top influencers, world class athletes and subject matter experts who share their lived experiences and insights for better mental and physical health.&nbsp;
The goal is to have real conversations about the things so many of us don&rsquo;t prioritize: lowering stress, eating healthier, getting active and the impacts of not taking care of ourselves.&nbsp;
Don&rsquo;t Change Much is all about encouraging men to make simple changes that can have a big impact on their health, their families and their communities. Better health doesn&rsquo;t have to mean a lifestyle overhaul.
Disclaimer: This podcast is intended for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to provide diagnosis or be a substitute for professional medical advice from a healthcare practitioner.&nbsp;You should not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a medical or health condition. If you have or suspect you have a medical or health problem, promptly consult your healthcare practitioner. While this podcast is carefully reviewed, the Canadian Men's Health Foundation does not take responsibility or liability for the medical accuracy of the information provided by its host or guests and is not liable for any direct or indirect claim, loss or damage arising from use of this podcast. It is the listeners' responsibility to check the accuracy and relevance of the information.

Don't Change Much

The Don’t Change Much Podcast is a men’s mental and physical health podcast for men who feel overwhelmed, under pressure, or quietly carrying more than they let on.

Hosted by Trevor Botkin and Mike Cameron, the show features honest, stigma-free conversations about men’s health — from mental health and emotional well-being to physical health, stress, anger, relationships, addiction, and resilience.

Twice a month, Trevor and Mike sit down with athletes, health experts, influential Canadians, and people with lived experience to talk about what men are facing right now. These are real conversations about feeling disconnected, struggling in silence, navigating loss or illness, rebuilding after crisis, and learning how to ask for help without shame.

Created by the Canadian Men’s Health Foundation, the trusted voice of men’s health, this podcast blends lived experience with expert-backed insight to help men take action earlier, prevent illness, and build healthier lives for themselves, their families, and their communities.

You don’t need to change everything. Sometimes, not changing much, but changing something, can save your life.

The Don&rsquo;t Change Much Podcast is a men&rsquo;s mental and physical health podcast for men who feel overwhelmed, under pressure, or quietly carrying more than they let on.
Hosted by Trevor Botkin and Mike Cameron, the show features honest, stigma-free conversations about men&rsquo;s health &mdash; from mental health and emotional well-being to physical health, stress, anger, relationships, addiction, and resilience.
Twice a month, Trevor and Mike sit down with athletes, health experts, influential Canadians, and people with lived experience to talk about what men are facing right now. These are real conversations about feeling disconnected, struggling in silence, navigating loss or illness, rebuilding after crisis, and learning how to ask for help without shame.
Created by the Canadian Men&rsquo;s Health Foundation, the trusted voice of men&rsquo;s health, this podcast blends lived experience with expert-backed insight to help men take action earlier, prevent illness, and build healthier lives for themselves, their families, and their communities.
You don&rsquo;t need to change everything.&nbsp;Sometimes, not changing much, but changing something, can save your life.