In this episode, Mike and Trevor sit down for a conversation about something most of us are dealing with more often: how do you talk to someone you fundamentally disagree with without getting angry, shutting down, or losing yourself in the process?

They get into the difference between listening to someone and accepting what they believe, why compassion still requires boundaries and accountability, and when protecting your own mental health means simply walking away. Mike shares his "lighthouse, not tugboat" approach: you can shine a light and offer support, but you can't steer someone else's ship for them.

The conversation also turns to ego and the pressure to be right. Trevor talks about learning to admit when he's wrong, questioning beliefs he once held tightly, and recognizing that some of the behaviours that protected him earlier in life don't serve him anymore. Mike and Trevor explore why changing your mind isn't weakness, and why challenging the idea instead of the person can completely change a difficult conversation.

It's an honest conversation about disagreement, boundaries, masculinity, self-awareness, and giving yourself permission to evolve.

 

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In this episode, Mike and Trevor sit down for a conversation about something most of us are dealing with more often: how do you talk to someone you fundamentally disagree with without getting angry, shutting down, or losing yourself in the process?
They get into the difference between listening to someone and accepting what they believe, why compassion still requires boundaries and accountability, and when protecting your own mental health means simply walking away. Mike shares his "lighthouse, not tugboat" approach: you can shine a light and offer support, but you can't steer someone else's ship for them.
The conversation also turns to ego and the pressure to be right. Trevor talks about learning to admit when he's wrong, questioning beliefs he once held tightly, and recognizing that some of the behaviours that protected him earlier in life don't serve him anymore. Mike and Trevor explore why changing your mind isn't weakness, and why challenging the idea instead of the person can completely change a difficult conversation.
It's an honest conversation about disagreement, boundaries, masculinity, self-awareness, and giving yourself permission to evolve.
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Support This Podcast and Canadian Men's Health Foundation
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The Don’t Change Much Podcast is about men’s mental and physical health and conversations that build awareness, educate and provide simple lifestyle tips to help men and their families take action for better well-being. 

Each episode, host Dan Murphy is joined by Canada’s top influencers, world class athletes and subject matter experts who share their lived experiences and insights for better mental and physical health. 

The goal is to have real conversations about the things so many of us don’t prioritize: lowering stress, eating healthier, getting active and the impacts of not taking care of ourselves. 

Don’t Change Much is all about encouraging men to make simple changes that can have a big impact on their health, their families and their communities. Better health doesn’t have to mean a lifestyle overhaul.

Disclaimer: This podcast is intended for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to provide diagnosis or be a substitute for professional medical advice from a healthcare practitioner. You should not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a medical or health condition. If you have or suspect you have a medical or health problem, promptly consult your healthcare practitioner. While this podcast is carefully reviewed, the Canadian Men's Health Foundation does not take responsibility or liability for the medical accuracy of the information provided by its host or guests and is not liable for any direct or indirect claim, loss or damage arising from use of this podcast. It is the listeners' responsibility to check the accuracy and relevance of the information.

The Don&rsquo;t Change Much Podcast is about men&rsquo;s mental and physical health and conversations that build awareness, educate and provide simple lifestyle tips to help men and their families take action for better well-being.&nbsp;
Each episode, host Dan Murphy is joined by Canada&rsquo;s top influencers, world class athletes and subject matter experts who share their lived experiences and insights for better mental and physical health.&nbsp;
The goal is to have real conversations about the things so many of us don&rsquo;t prioritize: lowering stress, eating healthier, getting active and the impacts of not taking care of ourselves.&nbsp;
Don&rsquo;t Change Much is all about encouraging men to make simple changes that can have a big impact on their health, their families and their communities. Better health doesn&rsquo;t have to mean a lifestyle overhaul.
Disclaimer: This podcast is intended for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to provide diagnosis or be a substitute for professional medical advice from a healthcare practitioner.&nbsp;You should not use the information provided in this podcast for diagnosing or treating a medical or health condition. If you have or suspect you have a medical or health problem, promptly consult your healthcare practitioner. While this podcast is carefully reviewed, the Canadian Men's Health Foundation does not take responsibility or liability for the medical accuracy of the information provided by its host or guests and is not liable for any direct or indirect claim, loss or damage arising from use of this podcast. It is the listeners' responsibility to check the accuracy and relevance of the information.

Don't Change Much

The Don’t Change Much Podcast is a men’s mental and physical health podcast for men who feel overwhelmed, under pressure, or quietly carrying more than they let on.

Hosted by Trevor Botkin and Mike Cameron, the show features honest, stigma-free conversations about men’s health — from mental health and emotional well-being to physical health, stress, anger, relationships, addiction, and resilience.

Twice a month, Trevor and Mike sit down with athletes, health experts, influential Canadians, and people with lived experience to talk about what men are facing right now. These are real conversations about feeling disconnected, struggling in silence, navigating loss or illness, rebuilding after crisis, and learning how to ask for help without shame.

Created by the Canadian Men’s Health Foundation, the trusted voice of men’s health, this podcast blends lived experience with expert-backed insight to help men take action earlier, prevent illness, and build healthier lives for themselves, their families, and their communities.

You don’t need to change everything. Sometimes, not changing much, but changing something, can save your life.

The Don&rsquo;t Change Much Podcast is a men&rsquo;s mental and physical health podcast for men who feel overwhelmed, under pressure, or quietly carrying more than they let on.
Hosted by Trevor Botkin and Mike Cameron, the show features honest, stigma-free conversations about men&rsquo;s health &mdash; from mental health and emotional well-being to physical health, stress, anger, relationships, addiction, and resilience.
Twice a month, Trevor and Mike sit down with athletes, health experts, influential Canadians, and people with lived experience to talk about what men are facing right now. These are real conversations about feeling disconnected, struggling in silence, navigating loss or illness, rebuilding after crisis, and learning how to ask for help without shame.
Created by the Canadian Men&rsquo;s Health Foundation, the trusted voice of men&rsquo;s health, this podcast blends lived experience with expert-backed insight to help men take action earlier, prevent illness, and build healthier lives for themselves, their families, and their communities.
You don&rsquo;t need to change everything.&nbsp;Sometimes, not changing much, but changing something, can save your life.