Are you leaving?

Are you leaving?

I you wanna way back home?

I you wanna way back home?

Either way, we want to be there, doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us time and they terminol and gay. We want to send you off in style.

Either way, we want to be there, doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us time and they terminol and gay. We want to send you off in style.

Do you wanna welcome you back home? Tell us all about it? We scared? Or was it fine? Malborn? Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride? Do your need to ride? Do you need to ride?

Do you wanna welcome you back home? Tell us all about it? We scared? Or was it fine? Malborn? Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride? Do your need to ride? Do you need to ride?

Do you need to ride?

Do you need to ride?

Ride with Karen and Chris.

Ride with Karen and Chris.

Welcome to Do you need to ride? This is Chris.

Welcome to Do you need to ride? This is Chris.

Fairbanks and this is Karen Tilgareth the entire way. You know, I do a lot of research whenever we have a guest. I read the sheet and I was reminded of today's guests comic book called Minor Threats, which made me listen to Minor.

Fairbanks and this is Karen Tilgareth the entire way. You know, I do a lot of research whenever we have a guest. I read the sheet and I was reminded of today's guests comic book called Minor Threats, which made me listen to Minor.

Threat the whole way nice, which is.

Threat the whole way nice, which is.

High octane, high energy punk rock, punk rock, which.

High octane, high energy punk rock, punk rock, which.

You know I'm into now.

You know I'm into now.

Is that your new thing? Punk rock?

Is that your new thing? Punk rock?

It has to sort of be, because I've been practicing. I had another Curb Dogs show and we yes, I'd say that so hesitantly. But I do karaoke with a live band of songs. None of you have ever heard of except for the Dinosaur Junior one probably, and I need to listen to it to get into that mode.

It has to sort of be, because I've been practicing. I had another Curb Dogs show and we yes, I'd say that so hesitantly. But I do karaoke with a live band of songs. None of you have ever heard of except for the Dinosaur Junior one probably, and I need to listen to it to get into that mode.

It helped.

It helped.

And then we rehearsed more than once this last time, and that helped a lot. Yeah, and the audience was all fifty something skateboarders, which really really helped.

And then we rehearsed more than once this last time, and that helped a lot. Yeah, and the audience was all fifty something skateboarders, which really really helped.

Man, I have to go to those shows.

Man, I have to go to those shows.

I yeah, we have yet to do one that isn't somewhere in Montana or Washington at a skate park opening. But this was in a town called Big Sandy, which can't even be a thousand people.

I yeah, we have yet to do one that isn't somewhere in Montana or Washington at a skate park opening. But this was in a town called Big Sandy, which can't even be a thousand people.

Big Sandy, Montana.

Big Sandy, Montana.

It's where one of the Montana senators is from and where Jeff meant from Pearl Jam is from Nice. And so once we hit this little town driving around, I just was thinking of Jeff as a little kid, thinking, oh, I want to be a rock star one day in this town that is.

It's where one of the Montana senators is from and where Jeff meant from Pearl Jam is from Nice. And so once we hit this little town driving around, I just was thinking of Jeff as a little kid, thinking, oh, I want to be a rock star one day in this town that is.

Eight blocks wide and high.

Eight blocks wide and high.

And then all of a sudden, there he was on a bike, and oh, yeah, he was just adult Jeff Man riding a bike around, reminiscing about when he was a child riding a bike around.

And then all of a sudden, there he was on a bike, and oh, yeah, he was just adult Jeff Man riding a bike around, reminiscing about when he was a child riding a bike around.

So he moved back to his hometown, or maybe never moved out.

So he moved back to his hometown, or maybe never moved out.

He goes back.

He goes back.

He lives a few places I think because Pearl Jam I think makes good money for him.

He lives a few places I think because Pearl Jam I think makes good money for him.

I bet they do.

I bet they do.

I bet they do.

I bet they do.

And no, he's got like a skate team with little kids in the area that skate for his team. It's quite wholesome and fun. And then we played a loud show in a bar. So I've been listening to punk rock and that is my story that I've started on this episode of Do You Need a Ride?

And no, he's got like a skate team with little kids in the area that skate for his team. It's quite wholesome and fun. And then we played a loud show in a bar. So I've been listening to punk rock and that is my story that I've started on this episode of Do You Need a Ride?

Great story, thank you.

Great story, thank you.

I think at the end it kind of went down. He did well energy wise. I think it was still very compelling.

I think at the end it kind of went down. He did well energy wise. I think it was still very compelling.

Well, there's a lot of pressure with stories at the end because we're comics to have a big closing statement.

Well, there's a lot of pressure with stories at the end because we're comics to have a big closing statement.

What would you be doing, sir?

What would you be doing, sir?

Like what?

Like what?

He wasn't turning the wheel at all. He was just coming into me.

He wasn't turning the wheel at all. He was just coming into me.

There was no reason for him to turn that wide. That car was twenty feet away. He just wanted to kiss our lane to feel like what.

There was no reason for him to turn that wide. That car was twenty feet away. He just wanted to kiss our lane to feel like what.

It felt like.

It felt like.

It looked like he was looking at this huge median blocker like he was thinking about driving over it to get to go left, like you wanted to go left so bad. He was just going to drive through some bushes to do it.

It looked like he was looking at this huge median blocker like he was thinking about driving over it to get to go left, like you wanted to go left so bad. He was just going to drive through some bushes to do it.

I like to give people the benefit of a doubt or the doubt or any doubt age doubt.

I like to give people the benefit of a doubt or the doubt or any doubt age doubt.

Perhaps he was having a medical emergency.

Perhaps he was having a medical emergency.

His mouth was foaming, he was biting on a belt, and that makes you take a wide turn. Yeah, I wish him well, is what I'm saying.

His mouth was foaming, he was biting on a belt, and that makes you take a wide turn. Yeah, I wish him well, is what I'm saying.

I don't, you don't.

I don't, you don't.

I was more like, I'll kill you la style, yeah, road rage.

I was more like, I'll kill you la style, yeah, road rage.

Style, or you just do it with your eyes.

Style, or you just do it with your eyes.

Yeah, and just kind of like any chance to kind of get bad feeling going about your fellow man in another car who might be making a mistake, just jump on that chance, because it just makes your life awful.

Yeah, and just kind of like any chance to kind of get bad feeling going about your fellow man in another car who might be making a mistake, just jump on that chance, because it just makes your life awful.

Yeah, right, that was one thing I got used to in Los Angeles. That kind of aggression doesn't usually go anywhere. People get very they'll honk their horn, they'll flip you off, which in Montana means both cars are going to pull over and you're gonna square off on the dirt shoulder the soft shoulder, and people get real hard on the soft shoulder when it comes to WHOA, I'm still I have terrible memories.

Yeah, right, that was one thing I got used to in Los Angeles. That kind of aggression doesn't usually go anywhere. People get very they'll honk their horn, they'll flip you off, which in Montana means both cars are going to pull over and you're gonna square off on the dirt shoulder the soft shoulder, and people get real hard on the soft shoulder when it comes to WHOA, I'm still I have terrible memories.

That's kind of funny because Los Angeles being how it is. You're right, it's all fake threats from people who have no intention of ever getting out of their car to fight you or really to do anything.

That's kind of funny because Los Angeles being how it is. You're right, it's all fake threats from people who have no intention of ever getting out of their car to fight you or really to do anything.

I'm start get home.

I'm start get home.

I'm starting to not even believe a lot on the like NWA lyrics and rap groups.

I'm starting to not even believe a lot on the like NWA lyrics and rap groups.

I grew up listening to you.

I grew up listening to you.

You think they were lying?

You think they were lying?

I think ice Cube was always are we there yet?

I think ice Cube was always are we there yet?

Ice Cube?

Ice Cube?

I don't think caps were busted ever, And I hope you're listening.

I don't think caps were busted ever, And I hope you're listening.

Cube, Oh my god, Cube, if you're listening, I love you.

Cube, Oh my god, Cube, if you're listening, I love you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean I wanted your approval when we were both on the same Conan episode, but I ended up just talking to Wayne Gratsky the.

I mean I wanted your approval when we were both on the same Conan episode, but I ended up just talking to Wayne Gratsky the.

Idea that you would. I mean, it's very natural to want approval from ice Cube, yes, but to expect it, I don't.

Idea that you would. I mean, it's very natural to want approval from ice Cube, yes, but to expect it, I don't.

That's I did not expect it. I went into it with low expectations. And once he walked down the hall and I saw his eyebrows that are just like a caricature drawing of ice Cube.

That's I did not expect it. I went into it with low expectations. And once he walked down the hall and I saw his eyebrows that are just like a caricature drawing of ice Cube.

They are not welcoming.

They are not welcoming.

They are furrowed right, and they come up in the middle at the top of his nose and curl up, and it seems like.

They are furrowed right, and they come up in the middle at the top of his nose and curl up, and it seems like.

And he also has those flared nostrils can like consistently flared nostrils. He does absolutely look like he's waiting for a fight at any point, and of course, being the person I am, I really love that. I relate to it. I love a resting bitch face. I love the energy of shut the fuck up. It's my favorite.

And he also has those flared nostrils can like consistently flared nostrils. He does absolutely look like he's waiting for a fight at any point, and of course, being the person I am, I really love that. I relate to it. I love a resting bitch face. I love the energy of shut the fuck up. It's my favorite.

Yeah, and it'll stop me from going Hi. I'm a big fan because he doesn't need to hear that.

Yeah, and it'll stop me from going Hi. I'm a big fan because he doesn't need to hear that.

But did you did anyone tell you? Did he watch your set? Like when it was all I.

But did you did anyone tell you? Did he watch your set? Like when it was all I.

Doubt he probably was in and out. I didn't watch his set.

Doubt he probably was in and out. I didn't watch his set.

Wait. I mean that's understandable because you can't, like five minutes before you do stand up caality on TV, you can't hear or see anything.

Wait. I mean that's understandable because you can't, like five minutes before you do stand up caality on TV, you can't hear or see anything.

And I remember you called me before that set and said, very reassure you got this, you belong there, you know what you're doing. I did, yes, and we were just getting to know each other at the time, right, So thank you for that.

And I remember you called me before that set and said, very reassure you got this, you belong there, you know what you're doing. I did, yes, and we were just getting to know each other at the time, right, So thank you for that.

You're welcome. I meant it.

You're welcome. I meant it.

I'm afraid it didn't work as nervous as hell, but I appreciate.

I'm afraid it didn't work as nervous as hell, but I appreciate.

But the nervousness is good because it's the it's the engine you had it. That set is legendary. The sweater was legendary.

But the nervousness is good because it's the it's the engine you had it. That set is legendary. The sweater was legendary.

I was doubting that sweater, and I right before I went through the curtains, I looked at just the guy that works on the crew that was his job in that moment to open the curtain, and he had a headset and like, I'm gonna take that sweater off, and he's like, you keep that sweater off, very much approof of the sweater, and it gave me that final boost of confidence.

I was doubting that sweater, and I right before I went through the curtains, I looked at just the guy that works on the crew that was his job in that moment to open the curtain, and he had a headset and like, I'm gonna take that sweater off, and he's like, you keep that sweater off, very much approof of the sweater, and it gave me that final boost of confidence.

I hated the.

I hated the.

Unsung crew members on shows daily shows where people it's so hard. On talk shows, it's hard work. People are under pressure constantly. It's very hard to make a show every day, and there are crew members like that. They understand that, especially stand up comics like a crew member on Conan would understand this is like a chance is being given. There's a lot of pressure, but they know that ultimately it's like you're here to do what you do. You got picked because you're good. But the idea that they're then conveying that to you like you've got this, yeah, I just love that. Or I felt I had the same experience with those with the crew on Conan, where they're just like, there, you do it, and they they allow you to kind of like entertain them. They're not like jaded or looking down or anything. They're in it with you.

Unsung crew members on shows daily shows where people it's so hard. On talk shows, it's hard work. People are under pressure constantly. It's very hard to make a show every day, and there are crew members like that. They understand that, especially stand up comics like a crew member on Conan would understand this is like a chance is being given. There's a lot of pressure, but they know that ultimately it's like you're here to do what you do. You got picked because you're good. But the idea that they're then conveying that to you like you've got this, yeah, I just love that. Or I felt I had the same experience with those with the crew on Conan, where they're just like, there, you do it, and they they allow you to kind of like entertain them. They're not like jaded or looking down or anything. They're in it with you.

It's beautiful.

It's beautiful.

Yeah, they were, and they know what they're doing.

Yeah, they were, and they know what they're doing.

When I the first thing I did was Kimmel and that was a new show.

When I the first thing I did was Kimmel and that was a new show.

It was live with like a radio delay.

It was live with like a radio delay.

Button and there was a you had to walk out on a catwalk that wasn't even near the audience. They could choose to wrench their neck ninety degrees to look at you or just not look at you, which most of them did. And at the last minute, Super Dave Osborne went too long with something and the guy, instead of saying, hey, that's a nice sweater, said hey, can you do a couple minutes less or come back tomorrow. I don't even think it was his call. And I said I can't. I have to leave town tomorrow, and he's like, okay, just do less time, and so I did different jokes and the prompter person was freaking out and pointing out the cards as if I was had lost my mind, and they bleeped me like a whole sentence. I thought it went well. I went to a bar to watch it and it was just like, because.

Button and there was a you had to walk out on a catwalk that wasn't even near the audience. They could choose to wrench their neck ninety degrees to look at you or just not look at you, which most of them did. And at the last minute, Super Dave Osborne went too long with something and the guy, instead of saying, hey, that's a nice sweater, said hey, can you do a couple minutes less or come back tomorrow. I don't even think it was his call. And I said I can't. I have to leave town tomorrow, and he's like, okay, just do less time, and so I did different jokes and the prompter person was freaking out and pointing out the cards as if I was had lost my mind, and they bleeped me like a whole sentence. I thought it went well. I went to a bar to watch it and it was just like, because.

You were talking about something you can't talk about.

You were talking about something you can't talk about.

I don't fully remember, but I didn't swear, and they beat it like I said, shit, fuck ass poop.

I don't fully remember, but I didn't swear, and they beat it like I said, shit, fuck ass poop.

Well huh, I wonder if you were talking about like an area that.

Well huh, I wonder if you were talking about like an area that.

The said Jesus oh as an exploited.

The said Jesus oh as an exploited.

But also that's so ridiculous that the stage manager would be the one saying, can you do extra time?

But also that's so ridiculous that the stage manager would be the one saying, can you do extra time?

Exactly?

Exactly?

That's what I'm saying, like it was his call, and I don't think it is his call.

That's what I'm saying, like it was his call, and I don't think it is his call.

Well, but it would unless him doing that independently would not be happening. It's the director talking through him.

Well, but it would unless him doing that independently would not be happening. It's the director talking through him.

Oh perhaps, Oh yeah, well then I'd feel better. But I'm about to make a noise. Oh that was a bodily function. A lot of people think I'm opening a soda, but that was one of Chris's specialty fart. Yeah, yeah, I have natures and that was one of my specialty signatures.

Oh perhaps, Oh yeah, well then I'd feel better. But I'm about to make a noise. Oh that was a bodily function. A lot of people think I'm opening a soda, but that was one of Chris's specialty fart. Yeah, yeah, I have natures and that was one of my specialty signatures.

Called the barbecue.

Called the barbecue.

Loves to play Frisbee or corn Ole.

Loves to play Frisbee or corn Ole.

Welcome to the barbecue, speaking corn this. Okay, wait, what's the address?

Welcome to the barbecue, speaking corn this. Okay, wait, what's the address?

I looked at it on Google Maps and so I will know what it looks like.

I looked at it on Google Maps and so I will know what it looks like.

You did.

You did.

Okay, I think it might be here on.

Okay, I think it might be here on.

The right, and it is okay, great, this is it free?

The right, and it is okay, great, this is it free?

So yeah, I do my research. I look at a picture of the home.

So yeah, I do my research. I look at a picture of the home.

Creepy.

Creepy.

Excuse me. That was a quick pickup, Yes, it was. My fear is.

Excuse me. That was a quick pickup, Yes, it was. My fear is.

That I've said everything I've said in the past because I haven't patent to our our audience.

That I've said everything I've said in the past because I haven't patent to our our audience.

But it's been decades and by that I mean five.

But it's been decades and by that I mean five.

Six years since I retold that last story.

Six years since I retold that last story.

Oh yeah, I don't even remember that last story.

Oh yeah, I don't even remember that last story.

Okay, good yeah, yeah, yeah, good good.

Okay, good yeah, yeah, yeah, good good.

That means to me, I'll immediately start criticizing you if you're doing something incorrect.

That means to me, I'll immediately start criticizing you if you're doing something incorrect.

And I'm constantly in a state of fear because and I thank you.

And I'm constantly in a state of fear because and I thank you.

It's great for podcasting, it is.

It's great for podcasting, it is.

It is. What would a mobile podcast be without fear.

It is. What would a mobile podcast be without fear.

Without fear and pressure? Yeah?

Without fear and pressure? Yeah?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

He does clubs and colleges across the country.

He does clubs and colleges across the country.

Everyone Alex Bennett.

Everyone Alex Bennett.

Got up at to go down Alex Bennett or just stay We're going on like everyone else on the show.

Got up at to go down Alex Bennett or just stay We're going on like everyone else on the show.

Depending, Hi guys.

Depending, Hi guys.

Hi Pat are you still coming from Teluca Lake or have you moved?

Hi Pat are you still coming from Teluca Lake or have you moved?

Karen?

Karen?

I am also now where I am in the same city you live in?

I am also now where I am in the same city you live in?

What Yes, we're like two minutes from each other.

What Yes, we're like two minutes from each other.

Yes, everyone lives you. Seth Green and his wife lived down here. Flannagan lives here. I like Seth Green, Seth Green. Zoe Lister Jones is down the street. I see her out on my walks, on my perambulations that you do when you're fifty four.

Yes, everyone lives you. Seth Green and his wife lived down here. Flannagan lives here. I like Seth Green, Seth Green. Zoe Lister Jones is down the street. I see her out on my walks, on my perambulations that you do when you're fifty four.

And you got to move that.

And you got to move that.

There are a lot of flat streets here, a nice flat ones. Noway, then I'll do that. It's my ankle.

There are a lot of flat streets here, a nice flat ones. Noway, then I'll do that. It's my ankle.

My ankles can't do those hills.

My ankles can't do those hills.

I can go uphill, fight the downhill.

I can go uphill, fight the downhill.

Oh my god, Yeah, you're not yours. We're all warned about going down.

Oh my god, Yeah, you're not yours. We're all warned about going down.

Yeah. And where are you living now, Chris?

Yeah. And where are you living now, Chris?

I am thank you for asking that you.

I am thank you for asking that you.

I was in Venice Beach for like seventeen years, and I now live in Echo Park where they shot the movie Training Day, right on those streets. Yeah, right where Denzel's yelling at Ethan Hawk while they're front in front of my garages.

I was in Venice Beach for like seventeen years, and I now live in Echo Park where they shot the movie Training Day, right on those streets. Yeah, right where Denzel's yelling at Ethan Hawk while they're front in front of my garages.

So you went, you went from both ends of the Bohemian spectrum, Vennis and then Echo Park.

So you went, you went from both ends of the Bohemian spectrum, Vennis and then Echo Park.

Yes, I really yeah.

Yes, I really yeah.

And I find it's covered to be friendlier and more of a community. I love where I live.

And I find it's covered to be friendlier and more of a community. I love where I live.

Oh it's great.

Oh it's great.

Yeah, it's terrific.

Yeah, it's terrific.

The only thing I need to do.

The only thing I need to do.

If we could stop by Flair Cleaners on Laurel Canyon, I'm going down there to all right.

If we could stop by Flair Cleaners on Laurel Canyon, I'm going down there to all right.

Otherwise, let's just drive around.

Otherwise, let's just drive around.

Hell yeah, maybe go further up north Laurel Canyon to where it's weird.

Hell yeah, maybe go further up north Laurel Canyon to where it's weird.

Should we go?

Should we go?

Where do you want to go?

Where do you want to go?

I mean we could go there. We could also go down mulholland we could do a little classic La drive. Come around.

I mean we could go there. We could also go down mulholland we could do a little classic La drive. Come around.

You're so right, let's do Should we do that? God? Damn it? Yes, that's way better. You know what? Fuck it?

You're so right, let's do Should we do that? God? Damn it? Yes, that's way better. You know what? Fuck it?

Make a left, I'll go. I can get Flair Cleaners tomorrow. I got all day open.

Make a left, I'll go. I can get Flair Cleaners tomorrow. I got all day open.

We can do both.

We can do both.

We can do both.

We can do both.

Yeah, we can do it.

Yeah, we can do it.

Well, let's do Mohan and we loop back around. We'll grab it.

Well, let's do Mohan and we loop back around. We'll grab it.

Okay, let's talk about David Lynch movies, and then we'll go get your suits press. When did you get it done? At the dry cleaners?

Okay, let's talk about David Lynch movies, and then we'll go get your suits press. When did you get it done? At the dry cleaners?

A bunch of shirts and a couple of them. I had some labels removed because they have those. The gap puts like fifteen unnecessary labels down on the right scene yep, and they're just flapping around and smack and you when you're walking around like, what is though?

A bunch of shirts and a couple of them. I had some labels removed because they have those. The gap puts like fifteen unnecessary labels down on the right scene yep, and they're just flapping around and smack and you when you're walking around like, what is though?

That was Karen's call. Actually she used to work at the Gap.

That was Karen's call. Actually she used to work at the Gap.

Oh yeah, for real, please explain to people how to iron this over and over in every language that you can come up with.

Oh yeah, for real, please explain to people how to iron this over and over in every language that you can come up with.

And then let's also have a pocket with spare buttons in it for no reason. Yeah, because, as you know, twenty somethings love to darn and sew.

And then let's also have a pocket with spare buttons in it for no reason. Yeah, because, as you know, twenty somethings love to darn and sew.

That's what they always do.

That's what they always do.

I have never ever used those spare.

I have never ever used those spare.

Button No, no, why are you giving If I lose a button.

Button No, no, why are you giving If I lose a button.

It's lost?

It's lost?

Yeah yeah.

Yeah yeah.

Or also you can just open your drunk drawer and find like a kind of purlescent button to replace it.

Or also you can just open your drunk drawer and find like a kind of purlescent button to replace it.

Exactly.

Exactly.

They're not rareer. Although thank you to the Gap for even being that considerate, because you would think that they would be like, get your own buttons, right, yeah, but they're not.

They're not rareer. Although thank you to the Gap for even being that considerate, because you would think that they would be like, get your own buttons, right, yeah, but they're not.

Yeah, and they also wanted to give gen X the illusion that we were somehow self reliant. Here here's what we've also added a little sew ink it great. Yeah yeah, I'll be getting rid of this as well.

Yeah, and they also wanted to give gen X the illusion that we were somehow self reliant. Here here's what we've also added a little sew ink it great. Yeah yeah, I'll be getting rid of this as well.

Take the needle, the tiny tomato pin cushion, and do what all your grandma's taught you.

Take the needle, the tiny tomato pin cushion, and do what all your grandma's taught you.

Well, I have a thumb ring with a little mushroom cat that I that I needle pointed, and that's where I keep all my supplies.

Well, I have a thumb ring with a little mushroom cat that I that I needle pointed, and that's where I keep all my supplies.

I wonder I would like to know on a calendar when the last time a thimble was used.

I wonder I would like to know on a calendar when the last time a thimble was used.

Oh, that's a good question.

Oh, that's a good question.

I mean down at a like Milton Edies, you know where they do at alterations twenty four hours. That's one of my favorite things. I used to live by and listener. Milton Edies is a very famous kind of Hollywood in Burbank, Yeah, Taylor, where you can go there twenty four hours a day and get your ship fixed, although it'll cost you eighty dollars minimum no matter what is.

I mean down at a like Milton Edies, you know where they do at alterations twenty four hours. That's one of my favorite things. I used to live by and listener. Milton Edies is a very famous kind of Hollywood in Burbank, Yeah, Taylor, where you can go there twenty four hours a day and get your ship fixed, although it'll cost you eighty dollars minimum no matter what is.

Yes, but I bet they get a lot of meth heads that at two am decide to go through their closets. Yeah, I'm gonna reorganize, gonna alter some things, Yeah, and they take them off. I used to go to Milton Eaties all the time, to the point where I just stopped eating that goddamn popcorn that because I would eat it and then I would just have greasy fingers and then get my clothes all messed up again like an idiot.

Yes, but I bet they get a lot of meth heads that at two am decide to go through their closets. Yeah, I'm gonna reorganize, gonna alter some things, Yeah, and they take them off. I used to go to Milton Eaties all the time, to the point where I just stopped eating that goddamn popcorn that because I would eat it and then I would just have greasy fingers and then get my clothes all messed up again like an idiot.

I remember, I remember Danny Sebaios for do I remember a true legend?

I remember, I remember Danny Sebaios for do I remember a true legend?

I remember the name, and I don't even know Danny Si.

I remember the name, and I don't even know Danny Si.

He was. Oh boy, he's the.

He was. Oh boy, he's the.

Greatest non stand up comic hangout person in our group.

Greatest non stand up comic hangout person in our group.

Yeah. He was one of the there's that weird subgroup of the non comics that are just as funny as the comics.

Yeah. He was one of the there's that weird subgroup of the non comics that are just as funny as the comics.

Yeah, he was that guy. And him when he and his wife Sarah got married, I was a bridesmaid and and she she asked me to be a bridesmaid, which is really nice. And of course six months prior when she asked me, we all want to try on bridesmaid's dresses. And I was so embarrassed because I mean it was like not just strapless and sleeveless, but it like it only just hooked around your neck, like it was high pressure of kind of bridesmaid challenge. And so I left.

Yeah, he was that guy. And him when he and his wife Sarah got married, I was a bridesmaid and and she she asked me to be a bridesmaid, which is really nice. And of course six months prior when she asked me, we all want to try on bridesmaid's dresses. And I was so embarrassed because I mean it was like not just strapless and sleeveless, but it like it only just hooked around your neck, like it was high pressure of kind of bridesmaid challenge. And so I left.

They were challenged dresses.

They were challenged dresses.

They were challenged dresses of what do you actually want to look like when you show up for this thing? So I immediately went on the most intense starvation diet, to the point where when I walked in for the wedding, all the people that knew me went, oh.

They were challenged dresses of what do you actually want to look like when you show up for this thing? So I immediately went on the most intense starvation diet, to the point where when I walked in for the wedding, all the people that knew me went, oh.

Oh god, whoa okay, Karen, Karen, Karen juice, let me check your get her assaline and po right down.

Oh god, whoa okay, Karen, Karen, Karen juice, let me check your get her assaline and po right down.

But I had to take that dress. So I was doing it thinking, oh, hopefully I can just like my arms will be slightly smaller.

But I had to take that dress. So I was doing it thinking, oh, hopefully I can just like my arms will be slightly smaller.

Whatever.

Whatever.

I had to take that dress into Milton Eaties and get it. This woman's like folding the things over going, Oh my god, why did you buy the dress so big? And I'm like, I can't explain this now, I can't talk to you about this.

I had to take that dress into Milton Eaties and get it. This woman's like folding the things over going, Oh my god, why did you buy the dress so big? And I'm like, I can't explain this now, I can't talk to you about this.

Wo look at this ankle rolling vista.

Wo look at this ankle rolling vista.

Get up there, climb up there, you little goats.

Get up there, climb up there, you little goats.

I remember Karen and I were in Seattle for some reason. I was opening for you or was it bumber.

I remember Karen and I were in Seattle for some reason. I was opening for you or was it bumber.

Shoes would say great word to say in Terry Lewis, But Danny would do this character called the Contessa and it was this old like wealthy dowager and are you people dumb?

Shoes would say great word to say in Terry Lewis, But Danny would do this character called the Contessa and it was this old like wealthy dowager and are you people dumb?

And we were. We were in some.

And we were. We were in some.

Vintage clothing store and we saw a hat and we both went the Contessa and we bought it and we brought it back for him. I just remember like that, that's how funny.

Vintage clothing store and we saw a hat and we both went the Contessa and we bought it and we brought it back for him. I just remember like that, that's how funny.

That guy was that because normally the hat that he would make would be like a napkin he would pick up. Where we were at a party at Laura Milligan's house and he would just pick a napkin up wrap it around his head. Because that's how you knew how drunk he was that he would turn into the contesta and start yelling at people.

That guy was that because normally the hat that he would make would be like a napkin he would pick up. Where we were at a party at Laura Milligan's house and he would just pick a napkin up wrap it around his head. Because that's how you knew how drunk he was that he would turn into the contesta and start yelling at people.

Exactly why isn't everyone paying attention to me?

Exactly why isn't everyone paying attention to me?

And remember when I think you actually put in a video because it was some It was like the compilation of bloopers from CNN or what. So we all sat down to watch TV in the middle of his party and he walked in, stood in front of the TV with this weird raincoat around his head and what are you people don't Yes, that's right, he was so mad we were watching TV.

And remember when I think you actually put in a video because it was some It was like the compilation of bloopers from CNN or what. So we all sat down to watch TV in the middle of his party and he walked in, stood in front of the TV with this weird raincoat around his head and what are you people don't Yes, that's right, he was so mad we were watching TV.

Oh oh god, yeah, he boy. When he would get drunk, he went all the way.

Oh oh god, yeah, he boy. When he would get drunk, he went all the way.

I remember seeing John Mattat like carrying him out of the Uh.

I remember seeing John Mattat like carrying him out of the Uh.

Oh my god, what was the place the cat in the fiddle?

Oh my god, what was the place the cat in the fiddle?

Oh yeah, like literally like he had picked up a mannequin and it was like like at Squaresvillet, like.

Oh yeah, like literally like he had picked up a mannequin and it was like like at Squaresvillet, like.

We're changing the mannequins. He would like pick.

We're changing the mannequins. He would like pick.

Danny was so slim and light. Yeah, you could just pick him up. Well, we got to take him.

Danny was so slim and light. Yeah, you could just pick him up. Well, we got to take him.

Somewhere you can't walk and so amored. Oh my god, Danny, what's Danny doing now? So is he still married?

Somewhere you can't walk and so amored. Oh my god, Danny, what's Danny doing now? So is he still married?

He's still married and his wife is a musicologist. She got a job as a professor. I think it's called Lawrence College and Appleton, Wisconsin. So they live way fucking north in Wisconsin, and he's and they've lived there for like it's been fifteen years probably and they love it.

He's still married and his wife is a musicologist. She got a job as a professor. I think it's called Lawrence College and Appleton, Wisconsin. So they live way fucking north in Wisconsin, and he's and they've lived there for like it's been fifteen years probably and they love it.

Yeah, so it just does sets it's skyline.

Yeah, so it just does sets it's skyline.

Yeah, or he goes he goes to the local supermarket, not the chain one, but the mom and pop and just and every now and then he'll kind of half go into the contesta like glas as Zucchinis just underpicked too soon.

Yeah, or he goes he goes to the local supermarket, not the chain one, but the mom and pop and just and every now and then he'll kind of half go into the contesta like glas as Zucchinis just underpicked too soon.

Yeah, my god.

Yeah, my god.

I miss that. I miss people doing characters.

I miss that. I miss people doing characters.

Yeah we would.

Yeah we would.

There was always people would go into just whatever at a party and it didn't have to necessarily go anywhere.

There was always people would go into just whatever at a party and it didn't have to necessarily go anywhere.

But yeah, I miss that too, Like during stand up, not as a TikTok persona.

But yeah, I miss that too, Like during stand up, not as a TikTok persona.

And again you know what, And it was all it was truly for ourselves because we weren't tiktoking or posting shit, right, it was just we're amusing ourselves right now, yes, and this is all going into the ether.

And again you know what, And it was all it was truly for ourselves because we weren't tiktoking or posting shit, right, it was just we're amusing ourselves right now, yes, and this is all going into the ether.

Yeah, it was the big because every thing was a big riff contest. So it was like, what can you bring if you're just going to do regular hard jokes? Will then stand over there because I'm about to unveil my new character.

Yeah, it was the big because every thing was a big riff contest. So it was like, what can you bring if you're just going to do regular hard jokes? Will then stand over there because I'm about to unveil my new character.

You're right, there was a time as weird as I and not well received occasionally as I can be in a mainstream setting. I felt sometimes like I was some road hack because I was wanting to do my bits and everyone else was like, well, I bought a.

You're right, there was a time as weird as I and not well received occasionally as I can be in a mainstream setting. I felt sometimes like I was some road hack because I was wanting to do my bits and everyone else was like, well, I bought a.

Box of crackers.

Box of crackers.

I'm going to be the Rits because I just picked these up, and I felt and I'm just talking about way later. For me, it just used to be an embar. Yeah, I am I putting am I. I memorized all these things and then the next week I could just be chewing it at the comedy store.

I'm going to be the Rits because I just picked these up, and I felt and I'm just talking about way later. For me, it just used to be an embar. Yeah, I am I putting am I. I memorized all these things and then the next week I could just be chewing it at the comedy store.

I liked that.

I liked that.

There's that right, Yeah.

There's that right, Yeah.

I remember there was a There used to be a message board called a Special Thing, and it was kind of.

I remember there was a There used to be a message board called a Special Thing, and it was kind of.

Very mbar Largo centric.

Very mbar Largo centric.

Yeah, all the all the m bar Largo fans, like the alt comedy fan base was on this message board, and a lot of us would go on there and just you know, answer fans and talked about something.

Yeah, all the all the m bar Largo fans, like the alt comedy fan base was on this message board, and a lot of us would go on there and just you know, answer fans and talked about something.

But I would remember them.

But I would remember them.

They would review MBAR shows every week like you would do the Nbar and you'd come home and go on that messag board. Like an hour later someone had written up the entire show. Yes, but I remember one night and this is no slam on anyone in this, but it was. It was a night where everyone went up and just absolutely killed.

They would review MBAR shows every week like you would do the Nbar and you'd come home and go on that messag board. Like an hour later someone had written up the entire show. Yes, but I remember one night and this is no slam on anyone in this, but it was. It was a night where everyone went up and just absolutely killed.

Boom boom boom.

Boom boom boom.

And David Cross went up and he was trying a bu He goes, I'm trying a much new stuff because he was working on a new special and a lot of the new stuff just didn't work. He just didn't land. He didn't have a great set. Still David Cross, still funny, but it just didn't work. And so this guy wrote there's a review and he's like the only you know.

And David Cross went up and he was trying a bu He goes, I'm trying a much new stuff because he was working on a new special and a lot of the new stuff just didn't work. He just didn't land. He didn't have a great set. Still David Cross, still funny, but it just didn't work. And so this guy wrote there's a review and he's like the only you know.

Everyone else went up all prepared and rehearsed, and it was disgusting. The only real comedian that night was David Cross.

Everyone else went up all prepared and rehearsed, and it was disgusting. The only real comedian that night was David Cross.

It was like he didn't but it was that ethos had leaked into the board.

It was like he didn't but it was that ethos had leaked into the board.

Yeah, like they anyone can go up and just get lashed. Actually no, you can't. Then that whole point of comedy. That's the hard thing to do.

Yeah, like they anyone can go up and just get lashed. Actually no, you can't. Then that whole point of comedy. That's the hard thing to do.

So it's quite rehearsed.

So it's quite rehearsed.

Yes, was the review written by like David X.

Yes, was the review written by like David X.

I don't think he ever went on those boards, don't do.

I don't think he ever went on those boards, don't do.

There were some like very specific personalities that came out of that board that I feel a lot of them probably went all right years rolled on just as they became more disaffected, they suddenly just started posting on once that board closed.

There were some like very specific personalities that came out of that board that I feel a lot of them probably went all right years rolled on just as they became more disaffected, they suddenly just started posting on once that board closed.

They're like, well, I guess it's storm front for me.

They're like, well, I guess it's storm front for me.

How much is it to fly to Washington, DC? Yeah, I used to search for my name on there. I just I totally forgot about that until you brought it up, and oh yeah, oh yeah, that person kind of said something nice, and I'd think about it.

How much is it to fly to Washington, DC? Yeah, I used to search for my name on there. I just I totally forgot about that until you brought it up, and oh yeah, oh yeah, that person kind of said something nice, and I'd think about it.

You could always see the early There were always rough drafts of the Internet out there. They just weren't there yet. Like I remember when there's when I was living in San Francisco. You I don't know if you ever did this, Karen, but there was a thing in the cafes for a while called the coffee Net and they were these little stations, little keyboards with a screen and you fed a quarter into a slot and then you could chat. It was just a chat room. And there were other monitors and keyboards in other coffee shops. That's all it was, so there was never more than twelve people in the chat room, but Blaine and I and Mark Marin would put a stack of like we were immediately addicted to this, and you would think that I would observe, like, wait a minute, I'm in a coffee shop with my friends and I'd rather feed quarters and just type non sequitors at these random people. There's clearly money in this. Yeah, and I just didn't even bother. Yeah, this will never catch on. Hang on, I need this five dollars. Can I get this in quarters? This five dollar bill?

You could always see the early There were always rough drafts of the Internet out there. They just weren't there yet. Like I remember when there's when I was living in San Francisco. You I don't know if you ever did this, Karen, but there was a thing in the cafes for a while called the coffee Net and they were these little stations, little keyboards with a screen and you fed a quarter into a slot and then you could chat. It was just a chat room. And there were other monitors and keyboards in other coffee shops. That's all it was, so there was never more than twelve people in the chat room, but Blaine and I and Mark Marin would put a stack of like we were immediately addicted to this, and you would think that I would observe, like, wait a minute, I'm in a coffee shop with my friends and I'd rather feed quarters and just type non sequitors at these random people. There's clearly money in this. Yeah, and I just didn't even bother. Yeah, this will never catch on. Hang on, I need this five dollars. Can I get this in quarters? This five dollar bill?

Thank you part of it.

Thank you part of it.

That they figured out a way to make you pay for it, like that is hilarious, Like, yeah, a quarter.

That they figured out a way to make you pay for it, like that is hilarious, Like, yeah, a quarter.

It was like playing a video. A quarter got you ten minutes.

It was like playing a video. A quarter got you ten minutes.

And we would sit there and just and I was I think we had different names. I think I forgot what I But we would go on and just like start talking and then you get into arguments, and the arguments were but apparently back in the seventies and eighties, weren't their party.

And we would sit there and just and I was I think we had different names. I think I forgot what I But we would go on and just like start talking and then you get into arguments, and the arguments were but apparently back in the seventies and eighties, weren't their party.

Lines on the phone.

Lines on the phone.

Yeah, yeah, and you could call up and just talk to people.

Yeah, yeah, and you could call up and just talk to people.

Yeap. That turned into the sex lines.

Yeap. That turned into the sex lines.

Yeah, like.

Yeah, like.

Thousands of women are waiting to talk to me. Wow, wow, remember that. There's a scene in I think it's Shortcuts. Jennifer Jason Ley is a phone sex operator where people just call up and she's saying the most filthy stuff and her either boyfriend or husband played by Chris penn is clearly like she's making a lot of money for them, and he's like, why don't.

Thousands of women are waiting to talk to me. Wow, wow, remember that. There's a scene in I think it's Shortcuts. Jennifer Jason Ley is a phone sex operator where people just call up and she's saying the most filthy stuff and her either boyfriend or husband played by Chris penn is clearly like she's making a lot of money for them, and he's like, why don't.

You never talk that way to me? Because it's disgusting, Like she's.

You never talk that way to me? Because it's disgusting, Like she's.

Not personally attached to it, but it's like that's probably who you're talking to when you're on the sex lines.

Not personally attached to it, but it's like that's probably who you're talking to when you're on the sex lines.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I had a friend who did that really yeah, because it was really good money. So all of a sudden, it's like, yeah, you don't have to go be a waitress for eight hours. You can just do this for two and as long as you're willing to just be kind of gross and some guys being gross back to you, you make a bank. My friend was just like, yeah, who gives a ship. I'd way rather get this big payout and it's like worth her time.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I had a friend who did that really yeah, because it was really good money. So all of a sudden, it's like, yeah, you don't have to go be a waitress for eight hours. You can just do this for two and as long as you're willing to just be kind of gross and some guys being gross back to you, you make a bank. My friend was just like, yeah, who gives a ship. I'd way rather get this big payout and it's like worth her time.

Yeah, well that's like all the I don't know if those still exist. Cam girls, web girls, Oh yeah, wasn't that a whole thing?

Yeah, well that's like all the I don't know if those still exist. Cam girls, web girls, Oh yeah, wasn't that a whole thing?

Yes, I mean that's now it's like the only fans accounts, right, yeah.

Yes, I mean that's now it's like the only fans accounts, right, yeah.

Oh that's right.

Oh that's right.

Yeah, don't pretend you don't know.

Yeah, don't pretend you don't know.

This is this is fucking oh, this is mortifying.

This is this is fucking oh, this is mortifying.

Right When only fans started, when I had heard the term only fans, but I didn't know yet that it was for porn. I just thought only fans artists have a page and people paid to see your new work. And I was talking with Amy Mann and she was like, yeah, I'm trying to put this new album out, but you know, you gotta the labels are all collapsing, and you know, I don't know how to get the word out.

Right When only fans started, when I had heard the term only fans, but I didn't know yet that it was for porn. I just thought only fans artists have a page and people paid to see your new work. And I was talking with Amy Mann and she was like, yeah, I'm trying to put this new album out, but you know, you gotta the labels are all collapsing, and you know, I don't know how to get the word out.

And then I just said, well, you should start an only fans.

And then I just said, well, you should start an only fans.

Page, like in my mind, thinking because that's where you put She's like, what, I go where you put your music on?

Page, like in my mind, thinking because that's where you put She's like, what, I go where you put your music on?

She goes, do you know what? Only know? But what? And the kid to explain. I'm like, oh jesus, right, that's not what I was saying.

She goes, do you know what? Only know? But what? And the kid to explain. I'm like, oh jesus, right, that's not what I was saying.

You know people do do that, though you're not off.

You know people do do that, though you're not off.

Yeah, now they do.

Yeah, now they do.

Yeah, I have seen that in recent days.

Yeah, I have seen that in recent days.

Yeah, there's someone who has an only fans page. Wait a minute, they just announce it and they're not like a porn person who.

Yeah, there's someone who has an only fans page. Wait a minute, they just announce it and they're not like a porn person who.

No, there's people that are doing comedy specials on OnlyFans.

No, there's people that are doing comedy specials on OnlyFans.

Right why Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Right why Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, it's like I think I think Whitney Cummings produced a roast that I can can't remember the person who is that true? No? Yeah, I think they're they're trying to basically like sidestep all the middlemen and all the people that take all their percentages.

Yeah, it's like I think I think Whitney Cummings produced a roast that I can can't remember the person who is that true? No? Yeah, I think they're they're trying to basically like sidestep all the middlemen and all the people that take all their percentages.

Exactly, just I'll put it up and pay whatever, or not even pay what you want. They're like Dana Gould has a Patreon, but it's like, I'm not doing levels, I'm not doing tears. Its five bucks a month and you get everything. Yeah, and when you do it that way, actually more people sign up.

Exactly, just I'll put it up and pay whatever, or not even pay what you want. They're like Dana Gould has a Patreon, but it's like, I'm not doing levels, I'm not doing tears. Its five bucks a month and you get everything. Yeah, and when you do it that way, actually more people sign up.

I'm because like, oh this is so easy, I'm one hundred percent sold on it, and I might do it. Yeah, it's good I want and then just have a psaltry image suggests I'm doing anything more interesting high everybody.

I'm because like, oh this is so easy, I'm one hundred percent sold on it, and I might do it. Yeah, it's good I want and then just have a psaltry image suggests I'm doing anything more interesting high everybody.

Well.

Well.

Then there's also writers that have sub stacks and you pay for that every month and they're like, I don't need to worry about getting it published.

Then there's also writers that have sub stacks and you pay for that every month and they're like, I don't need to worry about getting it published.

You want to read my stuff here it is?

You want to read my stuff here it is?

Yeah, Yeah, all the self publishing stuff that's going on.

Yeah, Yeah, all the self publishing stuff that's going on.

Also Cameo, where you can if people want you to say happy birth there.

Also Cameo, where you can if people want you to say happy birth there.

Yeah, although from what I heard, cameo can end up taking over your life, like it is, what so much work it becomes your Well it's not that it's so much work. If you have any kind of cachet, you will get you know, one hundred of quests today and you're like, well, I'm here. You know, it becomes an eight hour workday.

Yeah, although from what I heard, cameo can end up taking over your life, like it is, what so much work it becomes your Well it's not that it's so much work. If you have any kind of cachet, you will get you know, one hundred of quests today and you're like, well, I'm here. You know, it becomes an eight hour workday.

During the guy who.

During the guy who.

Played like one of the characters on Office Space and not obviously the Office, the American Office who's.

Played like one of the characters on Office Space and not obviously the Office, the American Office who's.

The tall bald guy kind of talks.

The tall bald guy kind of talks.

Like, oh yeah, yeah, he made a million dollars a year on Cameo.

Like, oh yeah, yeah, he made a million dollars a year on Cameo.

Holy shit.

Holy shit.

Yeah, And people basically just ask him to say the same phrase over and over and he just sits in his house and does it.

Yeah, And people basically just ask him to say the same phrase over and over and he just sits in his house and does it.

Hell yes, I mean get that bag.

Hell yes, I mean get that bag.

However you can get it.

However you can get it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was in Portland and there's this skateboarding Jesus guy.

I was in Portland and there's this skateboarding Jesus guy.

He rides along for just one he's me there's competing skateboard.

He rides along for just one he's me there's competing skateboard.

That's all he's talked about was the other skateboarding Jesus' and he but he we did a little interview, and he's very sweet, and he took me to his office and he had a whole setup. One was for cameo and then all these other apps. He did them for churches. He did, and he wasn't like a Christian guy, but he he did it very.

That's all he's talked about was the other skateboarding Jesus' and he but he we did a little interview, and he's very sweet, and he took me to his office and he had a whole setup. One was for cameo and then all these other apps. He did them for churches. He did, and he wasn't like a Christian guy, but he he did it very.

Much for Wow, for churches like, hey, guys, Jesus here, I highly recommend Saint Andrews. Yes, right, Eucharist always.

Much for Wow, for churches like, hey, guys, Jesus here, I highly recommend Saint Andrews. Yes, right, Eucharist always.

Just got some fresh trucks on the board.

Just got some fresh trucks on the board.

He did it in the many Texas high school football teams.

He did it in the many Texas high school football teams.

Oh really, he did, wow.

Oh really, he did, wow.

And it made me whoever was requesting those obviously had a sense of humor because he wasn't that serious. Yeah, so I'm like, well, he must be doing it for the cool church.

And it made me whoever was requesting those obviously had a sense of humor because he wasn't that serious. Yeah, so I'm like, well, he must be doing it for the cool church.

But you're saying skateboarding Jesus is not evangelical.

But you're saying skateboarding Jesus is not evangelical.

No, no, it was.

No, no, it was.

I mean he put a little like kind of a bed skirt around his skateboard so it looked like he was floating.

I mean he put a little like kind of a bed skirt around his skateboard so it looked like he was floating.

Yeah, I love him.

Yeah, I love him.

The skateboard was shaped like a crucifix.

The skateboard was shaped like a crucifix.

Yeah, of course, so you could take someone out at the ankle.

Yeah, of course, so you could take someone out at the ankle.

I know, I know.

I know, I know.

I didn't throw a log on the fire at church camp.

I didn't throw a log on the fire at church camp.

I was offended, but he made such a living and told me, here's what you need to do, and that's when I signed up for cameo and yes, during quarantine, even just for me, it was a daily thing. And sometimes they were, oh, you have twenty four hours to do this, and it's our sweet fans.

I was offended, but he made such a living and told me, here's what you need to do, and that's when I signed up for cameo and yes, during quarantine, even just for me, it was a daily thing. And sometimes they were, oh, you have twenty four hours to do this, and it's our sweet fans.

Yeah it was wow.

Yeah it was wow.

But yeah, I kind of dried up because you have to advertise it.

But yeah, I kind of dried up because you have to advertise it.

I've been pitched a couple of cruises.

I've been pitched a couple of cruises.

I've never been in a cruise and I'll never do one, but I just stand up to do. Yeah, stand up and music cruises or a very big thing.

I've never been in a cruise and I'll never do one, but I just stand up to do. Yeah, stand up and music cruises or a very big thing.

It's good money, right, yeah.

It's good money, right, yeah.

And especially here's what's amazing.

And especially here's what's amazing.

So many of our alt rock nineties heroes are either doing the soundtracks for children's shows. Kay Hanley from Letters to Cleo does Doc mcstuffians and I'm not kidding, she does not MC stuff. That's awesome, and they might be giants. Does Mickey Mouse Clubhouse?

So many of our alt rock nineties heroes are either doing the soundtracks for children's shows. Kay Hanley from Letters to Cleo does Doc mcstuffians and I'm not kidding, she does not MC stuff. That's awesome, and they might be giants. Does Mickey Mouse Clubhouse?

Oh yeah, they always did, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh yeah, they always did, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But now there are these cruises I know that like three eleven. Yeah, like they.

But now there are these cruises I know that like three eleven. Yeah, like they.

Will do and it's it's it's it's no different than like when there's a package torn now of all your Like there was that thing that was just touring with like the Cure and.

Will do and it's it's it's it's no different than like when there's a package torn now of all your Like there was that thing that was just touring with like the Cure and.

Yeah, just like y yeah yeah.

Yeah, just like y yeah yeah.

Where it's they just we're going to it's package nostalgia.

Where it's they just we're going to it's package nostalgia.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And the artists that are honored I apparently make banks. They're like, why Nothy, wouldn't I do this?

And the artists that are honored I apparently make banks. They're like, why Nothy, wouldn't I do this?

Right?

Right?

But but there's something about a cruise because isn't there a specific kind of person that likes to go on a cruise?

But but there's something about a cruise because isn't there a specific kind of person that likes to go on a cruise?

I don't know.

I don't know.

Well, it's it's really good the marketing concept, which is amazing because they're probably pulling in all these people who would never go.

Well, it's it's really good the marketing concept, which is amazing because they're probably pulling in all these people who would never go.

On a cruise. Oh yeah right, they're.

On a cruise. Oh yeah right, they're.

Tapping in new markets that kind of stuff.

Tapping in new markets that kind of stuff.

Yeah, makes sense.

Yeah, makes sense.

I just can't imagine Juliana Hatfield's fans wanting like salivating for the all night buffet and going, god, I hope she does a babe today.

I just can't imagine Juliana Hatfield's fans wanting like salivating for the all night buffet and going, god, I hope she does a babe today.

You're wandering and she's like, because I'm ugly, upset. She's not ugly, not ugly.

You're wandering and she's like, because I'm ugly, upset. She's not ugly, not ugly.

And plus, look at the ambrosia.

And plus, look at the ambrosia.

Marie, keep your voice down. She's singing a ballot.

Marie, keep your voice down. She's singing a ballot.

Ambrosia is like that lime green, yellow marshmallowy.

Ambrosia is like that lime green, yellow marshmallowy.

Like like cool whip. It's it's just that we have a bunch of cold things in the fridge. That's just mad from together grapes down in that basically sugar water, yes, just just soaking in sugar water.