In this episode of the "In Black and White" podcast, hosts Dr. Terrance Dean and Scot Kirk talk to Dr. Donna Ford, distinguished professor in the College of Education and Human Ecology at Ohio State University, about school programs designed for gifted students and why many children of color are missing out.

Ford said too often Black and Brown students are far more likely to be overlooked and excluded for gifted programs compared to white students. She also said teachers need to have higher expectations for all the children in their classrooms regardless of the students' backgrounds. 

Ford also discussed how the COVID-19 pandemic disproportionately impacted students of color, exacerbating already existing inequalities in our education system.