Brooke talks to Kelly, the CEO and co-founder of With Not For, a dynamic and disruptive content and talent agency, to look at topics related to disability, acceptance, and their work experiences. They delve into Kelly's personal journey of acceptance as a wheelchair user and reflect on the complexities of navigating disability in different environments. The conversation also looks at their collaboration with Guinness on a project involving accessibility and inclusion at Twickenham Stadium, showcasing their commitment to creating positive change in the industry. 

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• The proudest moment for Kelly was when they said no to someone for the first time, realising the power and responsibility they have in shaping their company's values and working with the right people.
• The experience of working on the Guinness project, especially the pitch-side moment during the England versus Ireland match, was a significant achievement and a memorable experience.
• Kelly and her team provided training and consultation to England Rugby and Scotland Rugby, focusing on enhancing accessibility and inclusivity for disabled fans during match days.
• Building a strong community of like-minded individuals within With Not For, where everyone feels supported, respected, and valued, was emphasised as a key achievement and source of pride.

BEST MOMENTS

"I think honestly, my proudest moment, I think that the Guinness pitch side moment was up there, you know, when you're up there, especially as well when Rag and Bone Man came on."

"The first time we said no to someone... that is huge and I don't want to sound negative in any way but I think that that was the moment where it really clicked for me

"That might have been the best day of my life!"

VALUABLE RESOURCES

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HOST BIO

Disabled and Proud is the show that brings listeners a different perspective on disability. Each week this podcast highlights an awesome disabled guest speaking about their own disability; why they are proud to be disabled and why they are proud to be themselves. 

The conversations in this show will look at what challenges these amazing people face socially, mentally, physically and life in general. This show is raw, open, honest, funny, welcoming and educational. 

Disabled & Proud does exactly what it says on the tin! And whilst we are creating this space for disabled people to be unashamedly themselves, without the need to conform to society, this is also not about toxic positivity. This show will be shining a big, bright light on disability without it being “Paralympic or pity”. 

As you will hear disability is WHOLE, COMPLETE & PERFECT and whilst the topic of disability can be quite heavy - and we definitely don't shy away from the bad days - this podcast is also about having fun too! Our aim is to play a part in reclaiming the word disability - turning it from inadequacy to perfection!