Debt! Everyone's favorite thing. How much is too much - for a future medical student like Abby or for the country at large? As the Trump administration continues to run up the red ink and the deficit looks to approach the $1 trillion mark for the first time since the 2008 financial meltdown, Jim and Abby look for the answers that will bring the budget into balance. The focus is on mandatory spending - Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Possible solutions include higher taxes, lower spending, or, according to Abby, cloning. Also, Abby explains why Stevie Wonder is blind.