Abby and Jim begin by discussing the horrific treatment of children detained on the Southern border, which both agree will be a defining moment in American history for generations to come, and not in a good way. Jim then introduces Abby to the concept of Godwin's Law, the Internet standard for Hitler analogies, and how Godwin himself has stepped into the discussion. They then discuss the recent presidential debates, and Jim reveals the secrets to winning a debate. (You're welcome to try this at home.)