Kerrilynn Pamer is the co-founder and CEO of the natural beauty brand CAP beauty. She’s built a career out of being curious - about cool face oils and amazing scents - but also about more esoteric health and beauty practices. At her core she’s a student of routine. She and Lizzy discuss what it’s like to live a creative life that has no one central creative practice, and why the term wellness needs a refresh. 





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Kerrilynn Pamer is the co-founder and CEO of the natural beauty brand CAP beauty. She’s built a career out of being curious - about cool face oils and amazing scents - but also about more esoteric health and beauty practices. At her core she’s a student of routine. She and Lizzy discuss what it’s like to live a creative life that has no one central creative practice, and why the term wellness needs a refresh.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: <a href="https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy">https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

How do artists make what they make? Join journalist and best-selling author Lizzy Goodman as she digs into the daily creative practices of some of the most compelling figures in entertainment, politics, film, literature, and art. Difficult Artist is produced by Cadence13.

Difficult Artist

Kerrilynn Pamer

Lizzy speaks to the writer and director Edgar Wright about the value of enthusiasm, the reasons why humorous works of art get taken less seriously, and how he first became obsessed with the cult band, Sparks, the subject of his latest film.





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Lizzy speaks to the writer and director Edgar Wright about the value of enthusiasm, the reasons why humorous works of art get taken less seriously, and how he first became obsessed with the cult band, Sparks, the subject of his latest film. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: <a href="https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy">https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Edgar Wright

Lizzy talks to New Yorker staff writer Jia Tolentino about the weird honor of becoming well known for writing about commodification of self - Tolentino's best-selling essay collection Trick Mirror was published in 2019. They also, predictably, get to talking about the golden age of blogging, pandemic anxiety, and why so many women of the millennial generation grew up convinced feminism was a dirty word.  





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Lizzy talks to New Yorker staff writer Jia Tolentino about the weird honor of becoming well known for writing about commodification of self - Tolentino's best-selling essay collection Trick Mirror was published in 2019. They also, predictably, get to talking about the golden age of blogging, pandemic anxiety, and why so many women of the millennial generation grew up convinced feminism was a dirty word.   To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: <a href="https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy">https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Jia Tolentino

Lizzy speaks with the filmmaker Floria Sigismondi about the art of collaboration. What’s it like to make music videos with David Bowie? Or fashion films with Gucci’s Alessandro Michele? How do you keep track of your own creative voice while also serving the vision of someone else? 





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Lizzy speaks with the filmmaker Floria Sigismondi about the art of collaboration. What’s it like to make music videos with David Bowie? Or fashion films with Gucci’s Alessandro Michele? How do you keep track of your own creative voice while also serving the vision of someone else?  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: <a href="https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy">https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

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