Welcome I am Brett Winterble. It is devious motives episode number seven season number three great to be here with you on this beautiful day across the United States of America. How do I know it's a beautiful day where you are because we are living in the land of freedom and liberty? And that's a hugely important blessing that we need to remember no matter what, as much as we go at it politically, and we try to throw down and have fights and all that kind of stuff. The reality is, we're really blessed to be in this country. I mean, my gosh, what are the odds? I say this and people, kind of roll their eyes at me. But I said, What are the odds you're born at this time in this place in this country? I mean, it's really trillions and trillions to one. You could have been dinosaur food a long time ago. But I digress. And the politicking is coming fast and furiously. Coming up. Later on. In this episode, I've got a conversation I did. With Ward Connerly. Ward Connolly is an African American businessman and former University of California regent. This is a very, very serious man who takes issues of opportunity very, very seriously. He's a conservative thinker, and was based in California, as you might imagine being a region in the UC system. And he has brought a case to the Supreme Court, along with a group of other folks who are suing over affirmative action, because of the denial of Asian students at Harvard and UNC.