Edwin EIsendrath is joined by Tamar Jacoby, director of the New Ukraine Project at the Progressive Policy Institute and contributor to Washington Monthly. Her latest article is “Ukraine: Requiem for a Citizen Soldier.” (The conversation was recorded March 12.)

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