Today we sit with our very first guest of Season Five - therapist and bestselling author Nedra Glover Tawwab, who talks about what it means to “take life seriously” through intention, and why success doesn’t have to start perfectly. Her new book, The Balancing Act, is about learning the difference between “tolerable annoyance and abuse and neglect,” so we stop cutting people off for normal friction and end up lonelier. She reminds us, “we are in charge of our phone,” and sometimes the healthiest move is just not answering, without turning it into a relationship-ending talk. 

What is a healthy community? Tawwab jokes about how important our interactions are, even with the baristas at our local cafe.  Every interaction, especially the reliable day-to-day interactions hold value, and often can be healthier than the relationships we put the weight of expectations on.

 We also elaborate on "how useful it is to know how you show up in the world" and not get pigeonholed into an attachment style. Therapy and our conversations shared within those sessions are to help us identify our patterns and why and how they show up, and create outcomes that don't align with our desires. Tawwab points out these scenarios, how they’ve shown up in her life, and allowed her to acknowledge how she’s grown.

As always, we end the episode with soul-work. Nedra offers the question: “What is your relationship with offering people grace, extending it to yourself as well?

Connect with Nedra 
Website https://www.nedratawwab.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nedratawwab

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Today we sit with our very first guest of Season Five - therapist and bestselling author <a href="https://www.nedratawwab.com/" data-outlook-id="7aecef0e-52ca-4d8c-8279-2af9934cece4">Nedra Glover Tawwab,</a> who talks about what it means to &ldquo;take life seriously&rdquo; through intention, and why success doesn&rsquo;t have to start perfectly. Her new book,<a href="https://www.nedratawwab.com/books/the-balancing-act" data-outlook-id="fcb9edf1-6a8c-4c85-b199-9e0fd635fba5">&nbsp;The Balancing Act</a>, is about learning the difference between &ldquo;tolerable annoyance and abuse and neglect,&rdquo; so we stop cutting people off for normal friction and end up lonelier. She reminds us, &ldquo;we are in charge of our phone,&rdquo; and sometimes the healthiest move is just not answering, without turning it into a relationship-ending talk.&nbsp;
What is a healthy community? Tawwab jokes about how important our interactions are, even with the baristas at our local cafe. &nbsp;Every interaction, especially the reliable day-to-day interactions hold value, and often can be healthier than the relationships we put the weight of expectations on.
 We also elaborate on "how useful it is to know how you show up in the world" and not get pigeonholed into an attachment style. Therapy and our conversations shared within those sessions are to help us identify our patterns and why and how they show up, and create outcomes that don't align with our desires. Tawwab points out these scenarios, how they&rsquo;ve shown up in her life, and allowed her to acknowledge how she&rsquo;s grown.
As always, we end the episode with soul-work. Nedra offers the question: &ldquo;What is your relationship with offering people grace, extending it to yourself as well? Connect with Nedra&nbsp; Website <a href="https://www.nedratawwab.com/">https://www.nedratawwab.com/</a>
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Hosted by Well-Being Master Teacher and multi-disciplinary healer Devi Brown, Deeply Well is a soft place to land for those navigating the quiet, courageous work of becoming whole. Through soul-expanding conversations, guided meditations, and our signature Soul Work, each episode explores what it truly means to heal, to rewire, and to return—to your body, your truth, and your unique path. Created for the seekers, the sensitives, the creatives, and anyone reclaiming peace in a world that often overwhelms, Deeply Well invites you into presence, clarity, and self-mastery—one breath, one practice, one guest at a time.

Devi Brown is the founder of Devi Brown Well-Being, former Chief Impact Officer at Chopra Global, and the author of Living in Wisdom and Crystal Bliss. Her work honors the sacred complexity of healing and guides you gently back to yourself—again and again.

Deeply Well Where higher consciousness meets the complexity of being human.
Hosted by Well-Being Master Teacher and multi-disciplinary healer&nbsp;Devi Brown,&nbsp;Deeply Well is a soft place to land for those navigating the quiet, courageous work of becoming whole. Through soul-expanding conversations, guided meditations, and our signature Soul Work, each episode explores what it truly means to heal, to rewire, and to return&mdash;to your body, your truth, and your unique path. Created for the seekers, the sensitives, the creatives, and anyone reclaiming peace in a world that often overwhelms,&nbsp;Deeply Well invites you into presence, clarity, and self-mastery&mdash;one breath, one practice, one guest at a time.
Devi Brown is the founder of Devi Brown Well-Being, former Chief Impact Officer at Chopra Global, and the author of&nbsp;Living in Wisdom&nbsp;and&nbsp;Crystal Bliss. Her work honors the sacred complexity of healing and guides you gently back to yourself&mdash;again and again.

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"Take Your Life Seriously” with Nedra Glover Tawwab

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