Take a deep breath in through your nose. Hold it now, release slowly again deep in helle hold release, repeating internally to yourself as you connect to my voice. I am deeply, deeply well. I I am deeply well. I am deeply wow. I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast. Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land in your journey. A podcast for those that are curious, creative, and ready to expand in higher consciousness and self care. This is where we heal, this is where we've become. Hey, wellcome back to this show. This is Debbie Brown, and this episode I really want to dive into some thoughts I've been having around the timelines for healing and our timelines for being able to break through certain barriers that we have to ourselves and certain upper limits that we have that sometimes we don't quite realize. So some of my inspo for doing this show today maybe maybe one or two seasons ago, I did an episode called Healing Fatigue, and specifically the episode was about the stages that we're in when we get exhausted from doing the work, exhausted from healing, and if that is sounding resonant with you, right now, just know you're still on the right path. It is exhausting, but one of the things that I really enjoy thinking about when I hit some of those limits, because sometimes the exhaustaustion isn't necessarily with what you are or are not doing. Sometimes the exhaustion comes from living in this world where we're having a shared collective experience and other people are learning and growing or not at different rates than you, and there is a real exhaustion to that too. Sometimes when we are pulling the emotional load or even carrying the weight of hope solely on our shoulders, it can be exhausting. There's so many reasons that exhaust us. Sometimes it's purely biological. You know, you might be catching up on a lifetime of sleep. If you've been struggling with ruminating thoughts or some unprocessed experiences for decades, well then your body has never really been at rest. So you might find that for a year or two you are sleeping a lot more, or you might rearrange your social life to be able to create the space for the level of tiredness that you are. When you're in a season of deep healing, there's a lot of a lot of reasons, a lot of different experiences. But I did have an episode a couple seasons ago, and the name of the episode is Healing Fatigue. So if this is kind of registering with you on where you're at or where you've been and you kind of want to dive into those thoughts more deeply, please check out that previous episode. So the last couple of weeks have been really kind of interesting and spacious for me in terms of the way I'm kind of redeveloping my daily routine to be in support of the creative projects that I have right now. So some of you may know I announced on my Instagram that I have a book releasing next year. It's called Living in Wisdom, and I'm releasing it with GCP Balance, And so I'm in the thick of all things book and getting so excited to just get everything that I've been working on for the last few years to you. So that is one piece that I wanted to kind of approach a lot differently this second go round. My first book, Crystal Bliss. I wrote that book. I think I wrote it in twenty sixteen. It was published twenty seventeen, and I remember the process of writing that book, and that book is very different from the one I'm working on now. But when I was writing that little Baby, it was so hard because I was still juggling like a media career. I was juggling being an entrepreneur who had just launched their own business and wellness and I was I believe at that no, I was pregnant for the book tour, but I was. Yeah, I was juggling all the things. I had made a cross country move, and so it was one of the most stressful experiences of my existence writing that book, and I think I managed to. I actually wrote it in right around I think ten weeks, so two and a half months, and I was writing just non stop. It really challenging experience, but got it done, very proud. But when I came getting ready to write this book. And as I'm writing this book, I'm also in tandem working on another project I'm so excited about that I cannot mention yet. But I'm working on something that I am just so beyond creatively inspired about doing, and I'm working on it with another person who just like deeply deeply inspires me with their work and their creativity, and so it's kind of like this match made in heaven, and it feels like just it's expanding me in so many different ways. So these two kind of pillars of the next year of my life, I really realized required two different ways of me showing up for myself on a physical, emotional, mental, spiritual level, and also in the way that I show up to my work. It's very different than how I've been maneuvering the last couple of years. Kind of really steeped in a lot of work that requires a lot of communication with a lot of different people all day long, and so I wanted, you know, I realized in June, which is when I really come very creatively alive, right around my kind of birthday portal, I realized that I was calling in a completely new way of being creatively, and so I kind of gave myself this summer to figure out how my brain likes to work best in relation to creativity, you know, summoning something up from nothing. And it felt really good where I landed there. I kind of I started kind of tweaking my meditation practice a little bit. I would start at about an hour of meditation in the morning. But this past summer is when I really started kind of expanding my practice to have longer maudra sessions, to work with opening different energy channels and my body through the use of my hands. That is part of using maudras and a meditation practice. There are different positions that you put your fingers and your hands in and your palms in for the benefits that it can really bring you. Within meditation, I had started working with some new mantras and listening to some different music within the wheelhouse of music I like to use spiritually, so a lot of like Vedic chants and different mantras, and so I've been kind of perfecting that and just seeing what my spirit wants to feast on. Now, you know, what are the tools at this level and depth of my personal growth and my growth as a teacher and in my work. You know, what are the things that are really making me become creatively alive now? And it was so interesting to experience the differences and that specifically the differences and what kind of got me going, what turned me on to work in the last couple of years versus what does it now? And so much has changed around how I kind of maneuver in the world with my physical body and the way that I show up for myself and my vitality. So I've been kind of just kind of more so passively working on that over the summer, implementing small changes. And then this fall is when I kind of went into hyperdrive, Like I knew I was getting ready to start the bulk of the refinement of things that I had been writing. In October is when I was able to dive into that second project. And so I started really going into hyperdrive this fall. So I amped up my physical practice. That really started a very very disciplined practice with a cold plunge. I got a cold plunge at my house last year, and so every day I do about six minutes of cold plunge for me and my needs and the way that my brain works. I never imagined I'd be someone who would willingly be cold. Let me just say that off top. Never did I think I would be someone I despise the cold, like I remember when I lived in New York many years ago, it got to eight degrees one morning and I was walking to work. This is when I worked at Sirius and I only lived like a few blocks away. I was walking to work and I just started bawling, and I was like, I'm not built for this. I don't want to be built for this. She loves the sun, and I remember the tears froze on my cheeks anyway, So I never thought I'd like the cold, But for the way my brain is wired, I have found that working with cold therapy and doing breath work as I'm in the plunge, it has taught me so many new things about myself and my capacity to hold discomfort and also my capacity to find pleasure within discomfort. But it's really let my brain be so active and sharp, and it's released a lot of like natural stress. It's truly been helping the way that I think. So I'm really digging that. So I started doing that in the fall, started getting a lot more kind of intense with some of my physical practice and yoga and pilates, and I just knew that my brain needed me to support it in new ways. It is always kind of tough for me to stay on track with one thing. I think about everything all the time, and so some of those physical practices have just they've just really changed me for the better. So I feel really grateful for my ability to stay present in those as I as I kind of learned and start to get good at it, and you know, my intention is to master it. So that has felt amazing. And the next part of that process, which leads me to really the root of the root of this show, is that I reorganized my office to really support the way my thoughts and inspirations flow at this time, and it was very revolutionary for me, and it brought to light so many memories of past versions of myself. So I've been working like working, working since I was around sixteen. While I was still in high school, I was working two jobs, and then in college, I was typically working two jobs and also doing two internships and going to school. And then when I started my professional career, I was always kind of at the start of that, I was working in entertainment very young, but I also had a lot of operasortunity to do to have a big life really young. I had a really big life and that started at a very young age, and which means for me that it's complex. I'm having the experiences of probably ten people in this lifetime, and I'm always kind of doing a lot of different things at once, but having very elevated experiences in every kind of arena that I was in, whether that was in community work in the city and broadcasting and underground hip hop, in interviewing and journalism, and then also as a healer and in wellness and in all the different, you know, kind of education programs that I've done over the last couple of decades. So with that, I just had a lot of boxes filled with a lot of thoughts from things that I've built over the years, talks I've given, speaking, I've done, curriculums, I've built things that I've created, meditations, I've written. It, just a lot of different kinds of thoughts, and I think I'm someone that, especially as a mom and someone whose brain is always incredibly active, I've never really sat down to take stock of my life and really feel proud of things I've created, and especially things I've created that people didn't really get, that may not have been celebrated in their time or even understood in their time. But I look back and I say, wow, you were you know, you really heard God, that you were really tapped in then to who you were supposed to be. And there is no measure of success for that. To me. My measure of success is did I follow directions from creator. You know, my level of success to me is not if other people get it, not if it's popular, not if it takes off. But did I listen when I was supposed to listen? And did I act when I was supposed to act? And so as I kind of looked through these I had these kind of you know those giant type or bins you get from Target or the container store. I had these huge black bends and I usually kind of organized my house in a deep dive every quarter. I think I mentioned on a previous episode that David Beckham and I from His Dock are very similar in the way we are obsessive organizers. And so I remember I had got all those documents and all these boxes and boxes of experiences really programs and writings and all the things out of storage a couple of years ago, and with my organizer Julie, we had put them all in these boxes, and I was like, one day, I'm going to get through those, but I just needed to be pretty for now. So it took me. I say all this to say, it took me two weeks and I got through all of the boxes, and I went through every box paper by paper, and like a mass. The's enormous piles and like a couple of file drawers full, and I just sat and I really organized. It felt like I organized my purpose and I saw the line. I had already seen it and understood it, but I actually got to kind of travel back in time and get into the fibers of all the ways my purpose, what I know and believe to be my purpose at this point in time, all the ways it's moved through my life at all the different junctures, and whether I was broken at the time, healed at the time, had expertise at the time or not, whether I was doubting myself at the time or showing up, as you know, in all of my strength at the time. The thing that was always clear to me was that I listened. I listened, I listened, I heard the call, and I did it. I did it. I did it, and I did it in the exact ways that I was supposed to. And you know, even looking back on some things that I remember after I did it, I was like, all right, I'm not going to look at this again. I look back and I was like, oh my god, you did that. You know, all the things, just all the all the kind of moments that kind of come up when you sit with yourself with grace and without judgment and with reverence for who you are and what you managed to do in this life. And so getting all that organized, you know, it kind of led me to a couple thoughts. One, I felt really grateful for many of my experiences in the last few years, most especially all of the incredible work that we did at Chopra during the pandemic. You know, I've mentioned this a couple of times on the show, but I think for me, this year of my life has really been in service to processing the two years of the pandemic and kind of resting from them. In a lot of ways. I took the year off hosting retreats and doing a lot of the intensive teaching that I've been doing for the last four years. Because of that, I really needed to work in new ways and work on different things and rest And I was looking at it and it was just I was like my God. Like I remember in the early days of the pandemic, Deepak and I were taking so many meetings on behalf of you know, his mind blowing incredible work and the company and our mission to democratize well being. You know, we were just constantly talking to different corporations, guiding meditations, giving talks, giving lectures, giving teaches. We created campaigns with Clubhouse, and I remember I woke up every day for thirty days to lead meditation, lead a discussion amongst you know, five other people in Clubhouse each morning for an hour, and doing all the lives, doing all the meditations on the app, and doing the retreats, and doing all of the teaching for my own company and for Karma Gang shout out to all my girls and Karma Bliss. And you know, it was just kind of like, Wow, I'm grateful. I'm so grateful. I gave a lot and I learned a lot, and I felt like God stretched my heart's capacity to love, to both give and receive love in so many different ways. It was just an extraordinary time in my life, but an absolutely exhaustive and profoundly challenging time as well. And so just kind of looking at that and saying, wow, I haven't looked at any of this in a couple of years, but wow, wow, oh, you know, and it led me to the next thought, which was the pace of growth, you know, the kind of growth we're able to have access to, and the way that we can look at it and feel it as it's happening, and then the gift of being able to kind of look back at the mechanics of it when we're on the other side of it. You know, we can see it clearly. We can reverse engineer it a little bit. We can find ways to deepen in it, find ways to gift the roots of it to another, you know, to blueprint it for someone else deeply. Well. The timeline of our growth can vary based on how open, receptive, willing are to do whatever work we're called to in the time and to make whatever choices, no matter how difficult or layered they are, in the time that we're supposed to make them. I was on Twitter, which, by the way, shout out to everybody on threads. I am so feeling threads. It feels like what Twitter used to be, where you're really having an exchange and dialogue with others, and it feels, you know, a little safer, like people are being respectful on threads, and so I'm digging. I'm digging life over there right now. But something I tweeted earlier today was sometimes our cycles of growth and learning can feel glacial. Other times it feels as if we are being hurled into a new self at full speed. Healing can happen in a decade, or it can happen in the blink of an eye. I've found that our openness and willingness to receive and accept determine the timeframe. As I looked back on these various versions of myself in the last you know, really kind of twenty working years of my life, I could also see, you know, who I was, who I wasn't, who I was becoming, who I was trying to be, who I thought I was, you know, all the different ways that we try ourselves on over and over and over again, and all the ways that if we're aware of ourselves, we kind of fight ourselves over and over and over again. And so to that thought, the pace of growth, you know, spending some time with really identifying for yourself, what are some of those patterns in your life? And we have so many, right you have your deeper grooved patterns, which are some of those behaviors, some of those ways of being that really affect your life and the quality of relationship you're able to have with others. In all the different spectors of your life. And then we have those other kind of smaller patterns which may you know, kind of be around how we show up for ourselves or not, how we you know, make certain kinds of choices or not. But it really is so interesting once you get into a practice with whatever your patterns are, the sooner you can identify them and really just observe them without judgment, coming into an acceptance of them, the sooner you can work and participate with the energy. I feel like sometimes all healing ass of us is for our participation. It just wants us to turn on that creator switch and really commit to the fact that life is happening and we are at play with it. We are in a dance with it. Sometimes the song is sad, sometimes the song is best. Sometimes the song is a slow instrumental. Sometimes the song is really exciting. Sometimes it's a love song. You know, but we're all dancing to whatever rhythm is currently present, and it's just so important to acknowledge and accept that so you can participate with it. That is the entire point of being here. And when I say here, I mean earth. When I say here, I mean in your human body. Having your spiritual experience. When I say here, I mean living alive, existing, We are alive to create within it's choices, it's participation. And so when we kind of get into that groove with ourselves and with our patterns and with the way life moves through us, we then get the opportunity to say, how long do I want to suffer? Or how long do I want to be stuck? Or how long do I want to stand still in whatever this current moment is. Answer is always different for each of us. Whatever the you know, kind of catalyzing experience we're after, and that experience, it's different for each of us. But the timeline can change. And the timeline is based on choice. It's based on action, It's based on acceptance, it's based on surrender. The formula is surrender and acceptance. You know, I think the question that's always going through the internet, and most definitely the question I get asked a lot, is what's the hack? What's the growth hack? You know, what's the hack for healing? There's no hack, but there is a formula. And the formula is surrendered, its acceptance and its participation. And I think when we have some of those patterns that we realize are our thing that we find ourselves back in, or you know, even if it's not a pattern, if it's just healing a limiting belief, or if it's a barrier that we're ready to take down, you know, something that is stopping us from being more of ourselves or you know, answering our unique call, whatever that is. When we recognize it, and we all have many, our participation decides whether or not we want to keep kind of looping around that experience for ten years, or if we want to kind of knock it out in an afternoon or a week even you know, that is possible, that really is possible. Many years ago, I was in one of the teacher trainings that I did in spiritual psychology, and I was in that program for three years, and I remember, I think it was like a year or two. We were doing we were doing a partnered facilitation. We were doing like a gestal experience on one another, and then we were giving feedback after we each facilitated the other, and my partner said to me, you know, Debbie, healing can happen in the twinkle of an eye. And something about the way she said that to me struck me in a way I never imagine. And I was like the twinkle of an eye, you know. And there were past versions of me that believed, you know, in earning everything or in having to like pain through something, you know, it always having to come through pain. That thought what in the disney like, what are you saying the twinkle of an eye? And then I really closed my eyes and I thought about her words, and I thought about what the experience is of seeing the twinkle and an eye of another or seeing a star twinkle in the sky, and I thought, my God, that's it, Like that is profound, that is stunning, that is gorgeous wisdom. And it's true. It's true because there is no such thing as time for God. So if you want to take the long way or if you want to get right to it, it's solely your choice. God is not judging the time. It's eternity, right, it's forever. So God doesn't know if you're taking forever you're moving quickly. But based on our earthly reality and experience, that's where we get to gauge how long we want to be with something. And so yeah, you know, when we come into a surrender, when we come into an acceptance, and when we choose to participate with something, whatever our something is, it can lift quickly the awareness, the remedy, the balm, the healing for it can come in. And then the universe gives you with experiences right away to be in practice with whatever that is. And by being in practice, I mean when you come to an understanding, you choose to engage with it, you say you want to transcend it, or you want to you know, take action immediately. The universe conspires for you and then offers you different experiences, whether that is a conversation, whether that is a conflict, whether that is love, whether that is a work opportunity or something you're creating, something you see, something you read, you know, And they don't all have to be a big deal. Sometimes it's like the tiny little things and sometimes it's the big booms, but you're immediately greeted with the chance to come into relationship with that healing and it can move quickly. I've had experiences in my life where something has taken me ten years to get to transcend, to heal, to become really aware of, and I've had other experiences where I've been able to have that same level of healing and that same level of experience and that same level of freedom in an afternoon because I said yes to being with the truth of something and took action. And so it's just I don't know, it was really it was gorgeous to have some of these remembrances in the last couple of weeks and also to share them here now with you. You know, healing is exhausting. Changing your life is exhausting. It's confusing, it's challenging, it doesn't make any sense, and sometimes you want to completely give up. You want to say no, you want to say something else is easier. But easy and ease are very different things. And I have always experienced that when I've said yes to something I know I need to say yes to no matter the challenge, ease comes to me. Ease and grace floods into my life, floods, floods, floods into my life, Thank you God. And when I don't because I think it would be too hard and it would be quote unquote easier to not, life gets harder and more challenge. Just come in and God, I've said this before. You know, God will come at you in a whisper. And if you don't listen. God will catch your fade. God will You'll get a punch in the face. And so you know, I'm just always like, I don't want it to come through pain anymore. I want it to come through beauty. I wanted to come through the twinkle of an eye, through delight, through joy, through pleasure, through acceptance deeply well, so yeah, those were some of my thoughts this week that I really wanted to share. And I think for the soul work part of this really lean into knowing your pace of growth? What has your pace of growth been historical context, think of some of the you know, bigger things in your life that you've transcended or currently in the in the midst of trends. And I want you to really think of when did you first get the intuition to start exploring that piece? Did you listen? If you didn't listen, when did you get the invitation again? And this time did it come more challenging, a little bit louder? You know, how did it show up for you? Did you listen if not, did it come again? If you did, what happened next? You know, how long until a new experience? So just begin looking back and kind of taking a few notes and taking stock of the way growth moves in your life and the way growth moves in your life when you listen to your intuition right away when you don't again, there's no judgment for any of this, Like, we're all just here trying our best for however long we're allowed to be here, you know. So there is no real reward or kind of standing getting your gold medal while you're here on earth. So don't weigh yourself down with like judgment as you evaluate or absurd but look at it and then see how you engineer your healing best in your life. You know, if you are able to take action when you first hear the call, If you hear the call and you're able to trust it and trust your life and believe yourself right away, then how do things move? You know? And just keep a journal about it, start to notice it. Take the year to do it, you know, we're not in a race. But spend time with them and see what happens. I think you will enjoy it. Okay, before I close out the show, I want to tell you something really cool that I have the chance to do. So I believe maybe two three seasons Ago, I had an absolutely amazing astrologist on named Renee Sills. So. Renee is the founder and astrologer for Embodied Astrologers. She came on the show a couple of years ago, and she was so fascinating. You should really check out this episode. She came on the show and shared so many things about evolutionary astrology, and part of her story that was so fascinating to me was that her mother was actually a therapist and an astrologist, and this was back I believe. Sorry if you're listening, Renee, I don't mean to date you, but I think her mother was doing this and you know, maybe the eighties nineties, maybe seventies, eighties nineties in her childhood, and how much that kind of positively impacted her childhood and the way she was able to step into her purpose and path. And I mean, the way she creates her work is just beautiful. I love her language. The way she kind of speaks to things and explains things speaks to my brain and just the right way. And so the way she works with astrology I found to be incredibly useful for myself and my life, especially where it comes to some of that reparenting work and also where it comes to just kind of career and forecasting how to maximize on the energetic potential that's available. So Renee has at Embodied Astrology. Every year she comes out with the year's forecast. So this year she released and I think we're at the top of February now, so very early in the year, she released a twenty twenty four year review forecast for what to really look out for in this next year, what some of the themes are. And she does it for each sign and Renee says, to choose your rising sign, to choose which packet you would download for yourself. And so I do this every year, and I've also used another beautiful astrology system to do this. And this year, I remember I thought about Renee and I was like, you know, I really want to see if Embodied Astrology has an offering like this, and they did, so I ordered it for my signs. I like to read all of them. I like to read all three of my signs, my Sun, my Moon, and my rising And about a day or two days later, Renee actually reached out and said, hey, I want you. I want to give you one of my year in review and if you like it, you know, if you would share it, And I was like, g I just bought this, yes, So anyway, so we connected. I got the year forecast for twenty twenty four for all of my signs. So I'm working with Gemini and Leo because I'm a double for one. So I was looking at the all of the all of the astrology for both Gemini and Leo, and I was really blown away by the way she presents her work. It was such a pleasure to read through both and both resonated with me deeply. Dear God, I have to buckle up for this year. Oh my god. Yeah, I gotta buckle up. There's a lot going on but me and the best way. So humbly, I'm grateful and I'm excited for, you know, every challenge and opportunity and delight that comes my way. But what I loved about the way that Renee does her system is that she gives you one her expertise through her intuition. So you get this intuitive astrology read in part one, and in part two you get a very deep breakdown of the specific transits that are happening in the sky for your sign and what that means for you. And when it comes to astrology, I'm a transit girl. Like I love, love, love love kind of making magic with some of the transits. So I love this for us. And if you're interested in anything that I just shared, I want to let you know that I'm not getting paid for this. But Renee did refund me my initial purchase that I had made of her work. She refunded my initial purchase and gave it to me for free. There's a sliding scale for this. I love it, and she offered to give me a code so that everyone that listens to this show can get a discount. So I wanted to share that with you. Now. I think that this is a useful tool. Again, I'm not receiving any compensation for this, aside from the fact that Renee did refund my purchase. So I got my readings for free. You can download them onto wherever you download and you can either listen to it as audio or you can read it. I'm someone that has to see words on papers, so I got I did the transcript option and I kind of printed everything out because that's kind of lady I am. And I read through everything and so yeah, I think you'll dig it. So she recommends doing it for your rising sign. I like to do it for the mall. I really find that I resonate a lot with my moon sign especially and my rising sign, so a lot of Leo Gemini energy in my life. So if you're interested in getting those for yourself, you can download them on her website, Embodied Astrology, and the code to use at checkout is Debbie twenty twenty four, So Debbie two zero two four that is your code to get your discount on Embodied Astrology dot com. Renee Sills, thank you so much, so excited to continue to dive into that throughout the year. All right, that is it, don't forget your soul work, and we are back next week. Thank you so much for listening, then for joining me. Please tag me on ig at Deeply Well pod. Thank you for all the shares, all the ratings, all the reviews, and hit me up on ig at. Debbie Brown. No I'm as stay, I'm at stay, I'm mistay. The content presented on Deeply Well serve solely for educational and informational purpose. It should not be considered a replacement for personalized medical or mental health guidance, and does not constitute a provider patient relationship. 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Take a deep breath in through your nose. Hold it now, release slowly again deep in helle hold release, repeating internally to yourself as you connect to my voice. I am deeply, deeply well. I I am deeply well. I am deeply wow. I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast. Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land in your journey. A podcast for those that are curious, creative, and ready to expand in higher consciousness and self care. This is where we heal, this is where we've become. Hey, wellcome back to this show. This is Debbie Brown, and this episode I really want to dive into some thoughts I've been having around the timelines for healing and our timelines for being able to break through certain barriers that we have to ourselves and certain upper limits that we have that sometimes we don't quite realize. So some of my inspo for doing this show today maybe maybe one or two seasons ago, I did an episode called Healing Fatigue, and specifically the episode was about the stages that we're in when we get exhausted from doing the work, exhausted from healing, and if that is sounding resonant with you, right now, just know you're still on the right path. It is exhausting, but one of the things that I really enjoy thinking about when I hit some of those limits, because sometimes the exhaustaustion isn't necessarily with what you are or are not doing. Sometimes the exhaustion comes from living in this world where we're having a shared collective experience and other people are learning and growing or not at different rates than you, and there is a real exhaustion to that too. Sometimes when we are pulling the emotional load or even carrying the weight of hope solely on our shoulders, it can be exhausting. There's so many reasons that exhaust us. Sometimes it's purely biological. You know, you might be catching up on a lifetime of sleep. If you've been struggling with ruminating thoughts or some unprocessed experiences for decades, well then your body has never really been at rest. So you might find that for a year or two you are sleeping a lot more, or you might rearrange your social life to be able to create the space for the level of tiredness that you are. When you're in a season of deep healing, there's a lot of a lot of reasons, a lot of different experiences. But I did have an episode a couple seasons ago, and the name of the episode is Healing Fatigue. So if this is kind of registering with you on where you're at or where you've been and you kind of want to dive into those thoughts more deeply, please check out that previous episode. So the last couple of weeks have been really kind of interesting and spacious for me in terms of the way I'm kind of redeveloping my daily routine to be in support of the creative projects that I have right now. So some of you may know I announced on my Instagram that I have a book releasing next year. It's called Living in Wisdom, and I'm releasing it with GCP Balance, And so I'm in the thick of all things book and getting so excited to just get everything that I've been working on for the last few years to you. So that is one piece that I wanted to kind of approach a lot differently this second go round. My first book, Crystal Bliss. I wrote that book. I think I wrote it in twenty sixteen. It was published twenty seventeen, and I remember the process of writing that book, and that book is very different from the one I'm working on now. But when I was writing that little Baby, it was so hard because I was still juggling like a media career. I was juggling being an entrepreneur who had just launched their own business and wellness and I was I believe at that no, I was pregnant for the book tour, but I was. Yeah, I was juggling all the things. I had made a cross country move, and so it was one of the most stressful experiences of my existence writing that book, and I think I managed to. I actually wrote it in right around I think ten weeks, so two and a half months, and I was writing just non stop. It really challenging experience, but got it done, very proud. But when I came getting ready to write this book. And as I'm writing this book, I'm also in tandem working on another project I'm so excited about that I cannot mention yet. But I'm working on something that I am just so beyond creatively inspired about doing, and I'm working on it with another person who just like deeply deeply inspires me with their work and their creativity, and so it's kind of like this match made in heaven, and it feels like just it's expanding me in so many different ways. So these two kind of pillars of the next year of my life, I really realized required two different ways of me showing up for myself on a physical, emotional, mental, spiritual level, and also in the way that I show up to my work. It's very different than how I've been maneuvering the last couple of years. Kind of really steeped in a lot of work that requires a lot of communication with a lot of different people all day long, and so I wanted, you know, I realized in June, which is when I really come very creatively alive, right around my kind of birthday portal, I realized that I was calling in a completely new way of being creatively, and so I kind of gave myself this summer to figure out how my brain likes to work best in relation to creativity, you know, summoning something up from nothing. And it felt really good where I landed there. I kind of I started kind of tweaking my meditation practice a little bit. I would start at about an hour of meditation in the morning. But this past summer is when I really started kind of expanding my practice to have longer maudra sessions, to work with opening different energy channels and my body through the use of my hands. That is part of using maudras and a meditation practice. There are different positions that you put your fingers and your hands in and your palms in for the benefits that it can really bring you. Within meditation, I had started working with some new mantras and listening to some different music within the wheelhouse of music I like to use spiritually, so a lot of like Vedic chants and different mantras, and so I've been kind of perfecting that and just seeing what my spirit wants to feast on. Now, you know, what are the tools at this level and depth of my personal growth and my growth as a teacher and in my work. You know, what are the things that are really making me become creatively alive now? And it was so interesting to experience the differences and that specifically the differences and what kind of got me going, what turned me on to work in the last couple of years versus what does it now? And so much has changed around how I kind of maneuver in the world with my physical body and the way that I show up for myself and my vitality. So I've been kind of just kind of more so passively working on that over the summer, implementing small changes. And then this fall is when I kind of went into hyperdrive, Like I knew I was getting ready to start the bulk of the refinement of things that I had been writing. In October is when I was able to dive into that second project. And so I started really going into hyperdrive this fall. So I amped up my physical practice. That really started a very very disciplined practice with a cold plunge. I got a cold plunge at my house last year, and so every day I do about six minutes of cold plunge for me and my needs and the way that my brain works. I never imagined I'd be someone who would willingly be cold. Let me just say that off top. Never did I think I would be someone I despise the cold, like I remember when I lived in New York many years ago, it got to eight degrees one morning and I was walking to work. This is when I worked at Sirius and I only lived like a few blocks away. I was walking to work and I just started bawling, and I was like, I'm not built for this. I don't want to be built for this. She loves the sun, and I remember the tears froze on my cheeks anyway, So I never thought I'd like the cold, But for the way my brain is wired, I have found that working with cold therapy and doing breath work as I'm in the plunge, it has taught me so many new things about myself and my capacity to hold discomfort and also my capacity to find pleasure within discomfort. But it's really let my brain be so active and sharp, and it's released a lot of like natural stress. It's truly been helping the way that I think. So I'm really digging that. So I started doing that in the fall, started getting a lot more kind of intense with some of my physical practice and yoga and pilates, and I just knew that my brain needed me to support it in new ways. It is always kind of tough for me to stay on track with one thing. I think about everything all the time, and so some of those physical practices have just they've just really changed me for the better. So I feel really grateful for my ability to stay present in those as I as I kind of learned and start to get good at it, and you know, my intention is to master it. So that has felt amazing. And the next part of that process, which leads me to really the root of the root of this show, is that I reorganized my office to really support the way my thoughts and inspirations flow at this time, and it was very revolutionary for me, and it brought to light so many memories of past versions of myself. So I've been working like working, working since I was around sixteen. While I was still in high school, I was working two jobs, and then in college, I was typically working two jobs and also doing two internships and going to school. And then when I started my professional career, I was always kind of at the start of that, I was working in entertainment very young, but I also had a lot of operasortunity to do to have a big life really young. I had a really big life and that started at a very young age, and which means for me that it's complex. I'm having the experiences of probably ten people in this lifetime, and I'm always kind of doing a lot of different things at once, but having very elevated experiences in every kind of arena that I was in, whether that was in community work in the city and broadcasting and underground hip hop, in interviewing and journalism, and then also as a healer and in wellness and in all the different, you know, kind of education programs that I've done over the last couple of decades. So with that, I just had a lot of boxes filled with a lot of thoughts from things that I've built over the years, talks I've given, speaking, I've done, curriculums, I've built things that I've created, meditations, I've written. It, just a lot of different kinds of thoughts, and I think I'm someone that, especially as a mom and someone whose brain is always incredibly active, I've never really sat down to take stock of my life and really feel proud of things I've created, and especially things I've created that people didn't really get, that may not have been celebrated in their time or even understood in their time. But I look back and I say, wow, you were you know, you really heard God, that you were really tapped in then to who you were supposed to be. And there is no measure of success for that. To me. My measure of success is did I follow directions from creator. You know, my level of success to me is not if other people get it, not if it's popular, not if it takes off. But did I listen when I was supposed to listen? And did I act when I was supposed to act? And so as I kind of looked through these I had these kind of you know those giant type or bins you get from Target or the container store. I had these huge black bends and I usually kind of organized my house in a deep dive every quarter. I think I mentioned on a previous episode that David Beckham and I from His Dock are very similar in the way we are obsessive organizers. And so I remember I had got all those documents and all these boxes and boxes of experiences really programs and writings and all the things out of storage a couple of years ago, and with my organizer Julie, we had put them all in these boxes, and I was like, one day, I'm going to get through those, but I just needed to be pretty for now. So it took me. I say all this to say, it took me two weeks and I got through all of the boxes, and I went through every box paper by paper, and like a mass. The's enormous piles and like a couple of file drawers full, and I just sat and I really organized. It felt like I organized my purpose and I saw the line. I had already seen it and understood it, but I actually got to kind of travel back in time and get into the fibers of all the ways my purpose, what I know and believe to be my purpose at this point in time, all the ways it's moved through my life at all the different junctures, and whether I was broken at the time, healed at the time, had expertise at the time or not, whether I was doubting myself at the time or showing up, as you know, in all of my strength at the time. The thing that was always clear to me was that I listened. I listened, I listened, I heard the call, and I did it. I did it. I did it, and I did it in the exact ways that I was supposed to. And you know, even looking back on some things that I remember after I did it, I was like, all right, I'm not going to look at this again. I look back and I was like, oh my god, you did that. You know, all the things, just all the all the kind of moments that kind of come up when you sit with yourself with grace and without judgment and with reverence for who you are and what you managed to do in this life. And so getting all that organized, you know, it kind of led me to a couple thoughts. One, I felt really grateful for many of my experiences in the last few years, most especially all of the incredible work that we did at Chopra during the pandemic. You know, I've mentioned this a couple of times on the show, but I think for me, this year of my life has really been in service to processing the two years of the pandemic and kind of resting from them. In a lot of ways. I took the year off hosting retreats and doing a lot of the intensive teaching that I've been doing for the last four years. Because of that, I really needed to work in new ways and work on different things and rest And I was looking at it and it was just I was like my God. Like I remember in the early days of the pandemic, Deepak and I were taking so many meetings on behalf of you know, his mind blowing incredible work and the company and our mission to democratize well being. You know, we were just constantly talking to different corporations, guiding meditations, giving talks, giving lectures, giving teaches. We created campaigns with Clubhouse, and I remember I woke up every day for thirty days to lead meditation, lead a discussion amongst you know, five other people in Clubhouse each morning for an hour, and doing all the lives, doing all the meditations on the app, and doing the retreats, and doing all of the teaching for my own company and for Karma Gang shout out to all my girls and Karma Bliss. And you know, it was just kind of like, Wow, I'm grateful. I'm so grateful. I gave a lot and I learned a lot, and I felt like God stretched my heart's capacity to love, to both give and receive love in so many different ways. It was just an extraordinary time in my life, but an absolutely exhaustive and profoundly challenging time as well. And so just kind of looking at that and saying, wow, I haven't looked at any of this in a couple of years, but wow, wow, oh, you know, and it led me to the next thought, which was the pace of growth, you know, the kind of growth we're able to have access to, and the way that we can look at it and feel it as it's happening, and then the gift of being able to kind of look back at the mechanics of it when we're on the other side of it. You know, we can see it clearly. We can reverse engineer it a little bit. We can find ways to deepen in it, find ways to gift the roots of it to another, you know, to blueprint it for someone else deeply. Well. The timeline of our growth can vary based on how open, receptive, willing are to do whatever work we're called to in the time and to make whatever choices, no matter how difficult or layered they are, in the time that we're supposed to make them. I was on Twitter, which, by the way, shout out to everybody on threads. I am so feeling threads. It feels like what Twitter used to be, where you're really having an exchange and dialogue with others, and it feels, you know, a little safer, like people are being respectful on threads, and so I'm digging. I'm digging life over there right now. But something I tweeted earlier today was sometimes our cycles of growth and learning can feel glacial. Other times it feels as if we are being hurled into a new self at full speed. Healing can happen in a decade, or it can happen in the blink of an eye. I've found that our openness and willingness to receive and accept determine the timeframe. As I looked back on these various versions of myself in the last you know, really kind of twenty working years of my life, I could also see, you know, who I was, who I wasn't, who I was becoming, who I was trying to be, who I thought I was, you know, all the different ways that we try ourselves on over and over and over again, and all the ways that if we're aware of ourselves, we kind of fight ourselves over and over and over again. And so to that thought, the pace of growth, you know, spending some time with really identifying for yourself, what are some of those patterns in your life? And we have so many, right you have your deeper grooved patterns, which are some of those behaviors, some of those ways of being that really affect your life and the quality of relationship you're able to have with others. In all the different spectors of your life. And then we have those other kind of smaller patterns which may you know, kind of be around how we show up for ourselves or not, how we you know, make certain kinds of choices or not. But it really is so interesting once you get into a practice with whatever your patterns are, the sooner you can identify them and really just observe them without judgment, coming into an acceptance of them, the sooner you can work and participate with the energy. I feel like sometimes all healing ass of us is for our participation. It just wants us to turn on that creator switch and really commit to the fact that life is happening and we are at play with it. We are in a dance with it. Sometimes the song is sad, sometimes the song is best. Sometimes the song is a slow instrumental. Sometimes the song is really exciting. Sometimes it's a love song. You know, but we're all dancing to whatever rhythm is currently present, and it's just so important to acknowledge and accept that so you can participate with it. That is the entire point of being here. And when I say here, I mean earth. When I say here, I mean in your human body. Having your spiritual experience. When I say here, I mean living alive, existing, We are alive to create within it's choices, it's participation. And so when we kind of get into that groove with ourselves and with our patterns and with the way life moves through us, we then get the opportunity to say, how long do I want to suffer? Or how long do I want to be stuck? Or how long do I want to stand still in whatever this current moment is. Answer is always different for each of us. Whatever the you know, kind of catalyzing experience we're after, and that experience, it's different for each of us. But the timeline can change. And the timeline is based on choice. It's based on action, It's based on acceptance, it's based on surrender. The formula is surrender and acceptance. You know, I think the question that's always going through the internet, and most definitely the question I get asked a lot, is what's the hack? What's the growth hack? You know, what's the hack for healing? There's no hack, but there is a formula. And the formula is surrendered, its acceptance and its participation. And I think when we have some of those patterns that we realize are our thing that we find ourselves back in, or you know, even if it's not a pattern, if it's just healing a limiting belief, or if it's a barrier that we're ready to take down, you know, something that is stopping us from being more of ourselves or you know, answering our unique call, whatever that is. When we recognize it, and we all have many, our participation decides whether or not we want to keep kind of looping around that experience for ten years, or if we want to kind of knock it out in an afternoon or a week even you know, that is possible, that really is possible. Many years ago, I was in one of the teacher trainings that I did in spiritual psychology, and I was in that program for three years, and I remember, I think it was like a year or two. We were doing we were doing a partnered facilitation. We were doing like a gestal experience on one another, and then we were giving feedback after we each facilitated the other, and my partner said to me, you know, Debbie, healing can happen in the twinkle of an eye. And something about the way she said that to me struck me in a way I never imagine. And I was like the twinkle of an eye, you know. And there were past versions of me that believed, you know, in earning everything or in having to like pain through something, you know, it always having to come through pain. That thought what in the disney like, what are you saying the twinkle of an eye? And then I really closed my eyes and I thought about her words, and I thought about what the experience is of seeing the twinkle and an eye of another or seeing a star twinkle in the sky, and I thought, my God, that's it, Like that is profound, that is stunning, that is gorgeous wisdom. And it's true. It's true because there is no such thing as time for God. So if you want to take the long way or if you want to get right to it, it's solely your choice. God is not judging the time. It's eternity, right, it's forever. So God doesn't know if you're taking forever you're moving quickly. But based on our earthly reality and experience, that's where we get to gauge how long we want to be with something. And so yeah, you know, when we come into a surrender, when we come into an acceptance, and when we choose to participate with something, whatever our something is, it can lift quickly the awareness, the remedy, the balm, the healing for it can come in. And then the universe gives you with experiences right away to be in practice with whatever that is. And by being in practice, I mean when you come to an understanding, you choose to engage with it, you say you want to transcend it, or you want to you know, take action immediately. The universe conspires for you and then offers you different experiences, whether that is a conversation, whether that is a conflict, whether that is love, whether that is a work opportunity or something you're creating, something you see, something you read, you know, And they don't all have to be a big deal. Sometimes it's like the tiny little things and sometimes it's the big booms, but you're immediately greeted with the chance to come into relationship with that healing and it can move quickly. I've had experiences in my life where something has taken me ten years to get to transcend, to heal, to become really aware of, and I've had other experiences where I've been able to have that same level of healing and that same level of experience and that same level of freedom in an afternoon because I said yes to being with the truth of something and took action. And so it's just I don't know, it was really it was gorgeous to have some of these remembrances in the last couple of weeks and also to share them here now with you. You know, healing is exhausting. Changing your life is exhausting. It's confusing, it's challenging, it doesn't make any sense, and sometimes you want to completely give up. You want to say no, you want to say something else is easier. But easy and ease are very different things. And I have always experienced that when I've said yes to something I know I need to say yes to no matter the challenge, ease comes to me. Ease and grace floods into my life, floods, floods, floods into my life, Thank you God. And when I don't because I think it would be too hard and it would be quote unquote easier to not, life gets harder and more challenge. Just come in and God, I've said this before. You know, God will come at you in a whisper. And if you don't listen. God will catch your fade. God will You'll get a punch in the face. And so you know, I'm just always like, I don't want it to come through pain anymore. I want it to come through beauty. I wanted to come through the twinkle of an eye, through delight, through joy, through pleasure, through acceptance deeply well, so yeah, those were some of my thoughts this week that I really wanted to share. And I think for the soul work part of this really lean into knowing your pace of growth? What has your pace of growth been historical context, think of some of the you know, bigger things in your life that you've transcended or currently in the in the midst of trends. And I want you to really think of when did you first get the intuition to start exploring that piece? Did you listen? If you didn't listen, when did you get the invitation again? And this time did it come more challenging, a little bit louder? You know, how did it show up for you? Did you listen if not, did it come again? If you did, what happened next? You know, how long until a new experience? So just begin looking back and kind of taking a few notes and taking stock of the way growth moves in your life and the way growth moves in your life when you listen to your intuition right away when you don't again, there's no judgment for any of this, Like, we're all just here trying our best for however long we're allowed to be here, you know. So there is no real reward or kind of standing getting your gold medal while you're here on earth. So don't weigh yourself down with like judgment as you evaluate or absurd but look at it and then see how you engineer your healing best in your life. You know, if you are able to take action when you first hear the call, If you hear the call and you're able to trust it and trust your life and believe yourself right away, then how do things move? You know? And just keep a journal about it, start to notice it. Take the year to do it, you know, we're not in a race. But spend time with them and see what happens. I think you will enjoy it. Okay, before I close out the show, I want to tell you something really cool that I have the chance to do. So I believe maybe two three seasons Ago, I had an absolutely amazing astrologist on named Renee Sills. So. Renee is the founder and astrologer for Embodied Astrologers. She came on the show a couple of years ago, and she was so fascinating. You should really check out this episode. She came on the show and shared so many things about evolutionary astrology, and part of her story that was so fascinating to me was that her mother was actually a therapist and an astrologist, and this was back I believe. Sorry if you're listening, Renee, I don't mean to date you, but I think her mother was doing this and you know, maybe the eighties nineties, maybe seventies, eighties nineties in her childhood, and how much that kind of positively impacted her childhood and the way she was able to step into her purpose and path. And I mean, the way she creates her work is just beautiful. I love her language. The way she kind of speaks to things and explains things speaks to my brain and just the right way. And so the way she works with astrology I found to be incredibly useful for myself and my life, especially where it comes to some of that reparenting work and also where it comes to just kind of career and forecasting how to maximize on the energetic potential that's available. So Renee has at Embodied Astrology. Every year she comes out with the year's forecast. So this year she released and I think we're at the top of February now, so very early in the year, she released a twenty twenty four year review forecast for what to really look out for in this next year, what some of the themes are. And she does it for each sign and Renee says, to choose your rising sign, to choose which packet you would download for yourself. And so I do this every year, and I've also used another beautiful astrology system to do this. And this year, I remember I thought about Renee and I was like, you know, I really want to see if Embodied Astrology has an offering like this, and they did, so I ordered it for my signs. I like to read all of them. I like to read all three of my signs, my Sun, my Moon, and my rising And about a day or two days later, Renee actually reached out and said, hey, I want you. I want to give you one of my year in review and if you like it, you know, if you would share it, And I was like, g I just bought this, yes, So anyway, so we connected. I got the year forecast for twenty twenty four for all of my signs. So I'm working with Gemini and Leo because I'm a double for one. So I was looking at the all of the all of the astrology for both Gemini and Leo, and I was really blown away by the way she presents her work. It was such a pleasure to read through both and both resonated with me deeply. Dear God, I have to buckle up for this year. Oh my god. Yeah, I gotta buckle up. There's a lot going on but me and the best way. So humbly, I'm grateful and I'm excited for, you know, every challenge and opportunity and delight that comes my way. But what I loved about the way that Renee does her system is that she gives you one her expertise through her intuition. So you get this intuitive astrology read in part one, and in part two you get a very deep breakdown of the specific transits that are happening in the sky for your sign and what that means for you. And when it comes to astrology, I'm a transit girl. Like I love, love, love love kind of making magic with some of the transits. So I love this for us. And if you're interested in anything that I just shared, I want to let you know that I'm not getting paid for this. But Renee did refund me my initial purchase that I had made of her work. She refunded my initial purchase and gave it to me for free. There's a sliding scale for this. I love it, and she offered to give me a code so that everyone that listens to this show can get a discount. So I wanted to share that with you. Now. I think that this is a useful tool. Again, I'm not receiving any compensation for this, aside from the fact that Renee did refund my purchase. So I got my readings for free. You can download them onto wherever you download and you can either listen to it as audio or you can read it. I'm someone that has to see words on papers, so I got I did the transcript option and I kind of printed everything out because that's kind of lady I am. And I read through everything and so yeah, I think you'll dig it. So she recommends doing it for your rising sign. I like to do it for the mall. I really find that I resonate a lot with my moon sign especially and my rising sign, so a lot of Leo Gemini energy in my life. So if you're interested in getting those for yourself, you can download them on her website, Embodied Astrology, and the code to use at checkout is Debbie twenty twenty four, So Debbie two zero two four that is your code to get your discount on Embodied Astrology dot com. Renee Sills, thank you so much, so excited to continue to dive into that throughout the year. All right, that is it, don't forget your soul work, and we are back next week. Thank you so much for listening, then for joining me. Please tag me on ig at Deeply Well pod. Thank you for all the shares, all the ratings, all the reviews, and hit me up on ig at. Debbie Brown. No I'm as stay, I'm at stay, I'm mistay. The content presented on Deeply Well serve solely for educational and informational purpose. It should not be considered a replacement for personalized medical or mental health guidance, and does not constitute a provider patient relationship. 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