Grief doesn’t shrink with time; we grow our capacity to hold it.

Today, Devi sits with Dr. Laura Berman - a therapist who has appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show, hosts multiple television programs, and is a national advocate for social media safety and fentanyl awareness, while also creating spaces for grieving mothers to gather and connect.

Laura shares how the loss of her 16-year-old son Sammy to a fentanyl-laced drug sold via Snapchat reshaped everything: her identity, relationships, and the work she now brings to grieving families through advocacy, retreats, and community. 

With honesty and tenderness, Laura reframes grief as transformation, naming practices that truly help guide loved ones, specifically those of us who “don’t know what exactly to say in hard moments. 

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Laura’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drlauraberman/

Website: https://drlauraberman.com/

Read: Crying Out Loud - A Path Through Grief into a Life Reimagined

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Grief doesn&rsquo;t shrink with time; we grow our capacity to hold it.
Today, Devi sits with Dr. Laura Berman - a therapist who has appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show, hosts multiple television programs, and is a national advocate for social media safety and fentanyl awareness, while also creating spaces for grieving mothers to gather and connect.
Laura shares how the loss of her 16-year-old son Sammy to a fentanyl-laced drug sold via Snapchat reshaped everything: her identity, relationships, and the work she now brings to grieving families through advocacy, retreats, and community.&nbsp;
With honesty and tenderness, Laura reframes grief as transformation, naming practices that truly help guide loved ones, specifically those of us who &ldquo;don&rsquo;t know what exactly to say in hard moments.&nbsp;
Connect with Dr. Laura Berman
Laura&rsquo;s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drlauraberman/" data-outlook-id="8bd03845-7443-4d6b-b375-643d169e8004" data-ogsc="rgb(0, 120, 215)">https://www.instagram.com/drlauraberman/</a>
Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://drlauraberman.com/" data-outlook-id="497a2af1-5c30-47cc-acea-fd0d5fe188a6" data-ogsc="rgb(0, 120, 215)">https://drlauraberman.com/</a>
Read:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/787584/crying-out-loud-by-laura-berman-phd/" data-outlook-id="1ed3f6fb-0228-4d16-b637-4d54461983ff" data-ogsc="rgb(0, 120, 215)">Crying Out Loud - A Path Through Grief into a Life Reimagined</a>
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Deeply Well Where higher consciousness meets the complexity of being human.
Hosted by Well-Being Master Teacher and multi-disciplinary healer&nbsp;Devi Brown,&nbsp;Deeply Well is a soft place to land for those navigating the quiet, courageous work of becoming whole. Through soul-expanding conversations, guided meditations, and our signature Soul Work, each episode explores what it truly means to heal, to rewire, and to return&mdash;to your body, your truth, and your unique path. Created for the seekers, the sensitives, the creatives, and anyone reclaiming peace in a world that often overwhelms,&nbsp;Deeply Well invites you into presence, clarity, and self-mastery&mdash;one breath, one practice, one guest at a time.
Devi Brown is the founder of Devi Brown Well-Being, former Chief Impact Officer at Chopra Global, and the author of&nbsp;Living in Wisdom&nbsp;and&nbsp;Crystal Bliss. Her work honors the sacred complexity of healing and guides you gently back to yourself&mdash;again and again.

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Evolving through Grief with Dr. Laura Berman

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