Are we willing to risk rejection to bring salvation to those around us? Join Dawn and Steve in the Morning for a devotional from Blackaby Ministries International about the cost of ministry.

Dawn and Steve also welcome Phil Herndon of Tin Man Ministries to the studio to talk about mental health from a biblical perspective. Phil uses a dynamic approach to help his clients recover their hearts and redeem their stories. His therapeutic approach is grounded in the Spiritual Root System.™ He also integrates perspectives from Judeo-Christian traditions, and pastoral care. Phil works with individuals who have lost their way through addiction, anxiety, depression, struggles with spirituality, or burnout to walk them through the tumultuous and scary times that are so common to the human experience.

He completed graduate school in 1992 with a Master of Arts degree in counseling and religious education. He served as a pastor in Texas for 15 years until joining the Center for Professional Excellence in 2005 where he served as Clinical Director until 2020. Phil became the Clinical Director and co-owner of (what is now) River Tree in 2020 and loves his role in developing, encouraging, and equipping the staff as they walk with people through their life journeys.