Breakfast with David & Will - May 14 2025

Published May 14, 2025, 12:34 AM

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Good morning too, and welcome to Wednesday and five double a breakfast, the fourteenth of May. We've got a morning. We're going to take you all over the place. This is going to be something else. Touch of Etiicett. After six thirty today, Sean Fuster is on deck. We'll go around the courts with Sean. Koshi's going to be on the show, the port Adelais football Club boss and our man gives Zoier economic insights. After eight twenty today, what do we chatting with Tom Park? This one sort of feels oddly poignant in South Australia at the moment. Tom Park is an underwater cinematographer. He worked on David Attenborough's new film that's coming out called Ocean. He's an Australian guy happens to be on the morning that what's happening on our beaches is now on the BBC News front page with regard to the algill bloom and the die off there. We'll talk to him about our oceans, the health of them and what he saw out on this documentary because it does feel all linked this stuff. Ocean is very much about the health of our oceans at the moment the documentary, so we'll talk about that. The other thing we're going to do is we go to take you to Aurelio's Pizza in Chicago. Joe Aurelio is going to join us on the show. Aurelio's Pizza in Chicago is Pope Leo's favorite pizza joint, was his regular haunt when in Chicago. So Joe Aurelio is going to join us a little bit later. That should be a lot of fun. David Pedbethy, good morning.

Too, Good morning listeners, Good morning. Well, I can't wait for that chat. I didn't know we had that nailed down. That's terrific. Yeah, loosen the team. Jess must have been working on this for days to line him up. So yeah, they're famous for the Deep Dish pizza Chicago, aren't they. Have you ever had it? I have? Yeah, in Chicago, I had Deep Dish pizza. You know what I really like. The thing that Americans do really well with the cooking is the use of cast iron cookware. And there's a really good brand called Lodge. And you know, if you eat like corn bread, they have this way of heating up the pans in the oven so they get red hot and then they pull up the batter in and it sort of crisps up straight away but stays sort of fluffy in the middle. Corn bread. But it's almost like the science by making Yorkshire puddings, you know, the great legacy of English roast dinners. But yeah, the good thing about the deep dish pizza is the pen that they come in. It makes a crust some amazingly crisp and.

Deep dish pizza is for people that haven't had it emblematic. I think of a lot of American food, which is what I would call indulgence food, where the first mouthful you go, this is the most delicious thing I've ever had in my life, and the fourth mouthful you go, if I have to go again, I'm going to die.

Yeah. Yeah, And deep dish pizza fits into that. It's the total antithesis of what pizza was in the first place, has been invented by the Italians, which is it's all about the quality of the dough, then the quality of the tomato sauce, and then you've got like maybe three olives, two anchovies, or four slices of salami. But you're dead right mate. Yeah, America, the world capital of excess is can we raise the base so that it's a about two inches high and then ladle sauce into it and then fill it with cheese and just get a dumpster filled with pepperoni, you name it, and just empty it into the pizza. Yes, we can. To borrow a line from another famous Chicago resident, they really do. No one beats the Yanks for excess, do they. No.

No, they find something that's delicious and they go, could we make it twelve thousand times more intense?

Easily?

The worst thing I've ever a thousand times is big by this thing called I can't even remember what it was called. It was this weird breakfast sandwich in McDonald's at Atlanta Airport. I was waiting to catch a flight to North Carolina to see when I'm a mate to an Adelaide guy, Steve, he's lived there for years, made to an American girl and went and visited him about fifteen years ago. But they had this breakfast breakfast roll that on paper sounded good. It was bacon. It was a bacon and egg roll served in this sort of they call it a biscuit. It's a bit like a big, big fat scorn or something. But it said maple injected, and I thought that sounds good, thinking that the bacon must have been cooked with maple syrup or something. But what they'd actually done they had it literally injected it. There were holes in the bun like in the actual bread perforations, and then like some weird medical procedure that injected oozing maple syrup into the bread. And it was like this giant maple syrup explosion out of the bread into your mouth. I took one bite and threw it out. Who invents that stuff?

Who's about a job that's gone extinct? We talk a bit, We've spoken a bit indirectly about the potential of AI to take jobs. There was the Internet revolution that clammed her bunch of jobs. There was robotics in the eighties and nineties that fundamentally changed how manufacturing worked in some places. Nineteen fifty five of I was to take back to nineteen fifty five what new fangled technology claimed a whole heap of jobs in Adelaide. If you had to take a wild guess, it'll take some guess five nineteen fifty five. This is this is automation. In nineteen fifty five that claimed jobs.

I reckon people. If there was talk back.

Radio then would have been saying, well, there'll be no jobs left soon.

Nineteen fifty five was it some sort of packaging thing.

Now it wasn't packaging. It was telecommunications, okay, So the Central Telephone Exchange, yeah, right, in nineteen fifty five on this day closed.

So all the women who used to go like that octopuses were the cables. They got sacked.

They all got the sack. It was next to the GPO in Franklin Street. And that was because the Adelaide Metropolitan Telephone network switched to automatic on this day, seventy years ago. So you know, no needed the people plugging manually, the connecting the calls through. That is a job that no longer exists. Eight double two to three double o double I have you ever? Have you ever worked a job that no longer exists?

We might have listeners who did that, but they would have had to have been really young. If you're born in nineteen thirty five, it was your first job out of school. That makes you twenty, and it makes you ninety right now makes you nine? Maybe we do. Wouldn't that be fantastic? I mean we might have an eighty five year old Tommy, because back then the retention R is no one known. That's true, hardly anyone, particularly women, weren't starting to leaving honors. Oh y year twelve. People leaving at fourteen fifteen. Intermediate was sort of considered year ten. Intermediately.

Did anyone work at the Central telephone Exchange? That would be a phone call we'd love to get eight double two to three double o double. Oh if not a job that's now extinct zero four right, thirty ninety five.

I've got a terrible feeling when I was talking to my grandchildre and yeah, dang.

I used to work for a new paper every morning between six and seven am. If you were lucky, this rolled up piece of paper would land on your lawn and you go out and you don't wrap it, and you'd read about all the news and.

They'll just be scrolling on their phones, going why would you just get it on your iPhone? Pops.

Yeah, Well that's when the trouble started.

Sixteen after six news headlights coming up, just newse headlines in justin mind.

But let's take some calls.

Chris in Christie's Beaches on the line, have you had a job Chris that doesn't exist anymore.

I think that Chris has just disappeared. All right, Let's go to craig an Ingle Farm.

Craig, Good morning, Okody boys, how are we this morning?

Thanks Craig.

Hey.

Yeah.

I grew up working in my old man's video shop. We had one of the one of the first and one of the biggest video shops in late used to be called north Side Video and we into a Movieland franchise.

I grew up.

I worked there from the age of eleven through to my late teens, and just the best memories ever. It was such a good experience working in that shop.

It was such a ritual video night, wasn't it.

Craig, Oh, it was, mate, Yeah, And I just got memories Like Friday and Saturday nights in that shop. It was jam packed, like the shoulder to shoulder in there. And you know, the blockbuster movies that come out for the week. It was just such an excitement and just a great vibe.

Did you do the five old movies for like ten dollars a week?

Ten buck?

Yeah, that's it.

Yeah.

We had all the deals and everything, and you know, there was video shops that would move in down the road and christ Wars would start. But my old man, he's seen it through to DVDs coming, so he was there for eighteen years. He was such an entrepreneur. He got into it a late seventies and yeah, just great memories.

Oh that's excellent, mate, great call. You're right about the ritual.

There was nothing better than signaled the weekend, the whole family were getting volad.

Well.

I don't know why it is, but with all the things you can stream movies on now, it's almost impossible not to find any movie you want, almost and it's worse. Yeah, but it doesn't feel satisfying. Its kind of annoying.

It's one of my favorite One of my favorite writers was originally a music writer, made that observation about if you told him as a kid growing up buying records in the eighties and nineties and waiting for releases, that one day there'd be this magical button you could push and you could listen to any song from anyone anywhere on earth in that instant, and it made listening to music less fun. Yeah, he wouldn't have believed it, but that's the same experience. It's Spotify is not as good as appearing on the radio.

No exactly. I waited six months to get a CD by this Brazilian singer called the Lease Regime. It because I heard one of the songs on the radio once and I went, that might be the best song I've ever heard, and I was right, it is. And I heard it being played on ABC Radio six six six, which its actual call sign in Canberra when I was working camera nine to ninety six, and I just woke up and I heard this song and I went, I gotta find out what that song is, and I wrote down They back announced that Aguas demaso elisee Regiina. So I rang Vick, who ran Big Star Records, and said, can you try to get a best of CD for this Brazilian woman called Elise. It took six months, but that CD means so much to me. It was like a huge, massive effort to get it. Now you just type any name of any band in the Spotify and somehow it's less fun.

It's like the Sunday Night Movie was always more fun than just putting something on streaming. It's like scarcity or surprise is a huge part of the human the way we enjoy things as human beings, but it's a strange thing.

That's a great call. Love movie night.

Let's get to the news headlines. The coroner will receive a report from SA Police after two women drowned near Striky Bar yesterday. We're crossing there after seven o'clock at the age in their sixties, were swept out to c shortly after eleven yesterday morning. A sixty seven year old woman from Sturt and a sixty five year old from Streaky Bay had been fishing at Back Beach when they were pulled from the water. Not formiliar.

I think Back Beach and if any of our listeners have gone.

Fishing there or no the area, I don't know at all. We'd love to get some local insight on that. That'd be really interest terribly sad. One of australia Is leading pediatric nutritionists is calling for a nationwide band on ham ads. The South Australian government has removed ads for process meat on public transport. Mandy Sasha says ham is often seen as a harmless lunch box filler, but that's not the case.

It's actually classified by the World Health Organization as a Group one castinogen, right alongside tobacco and as best of the problem is, it contains sodium nitrate and once digested this can convert into canser coursing compounds in our body.

Yeah, I remember how I got hooked on the ham as some of the kids were passing around some ham behind the pe shared at school down the oval, and pretty soon I was doing about door slices of ham a day, got up to got up to twenty twenty five slices a ham a day at the peak of my addiction. What planet are these people on?

Like?

How much ham do you have to eat? How much ham do you have to feed your child to actually give them cancer? It is just classic health nark overstatement. It's almost like this quest for continued relevance, given how much the rate of smoking has gone down, how much the rate of drinking has gone down. I mean, if you're in the frightening the living, you know what's out of people business? You need to find a new villain. So it looks like ham, is it? Folks, if you're a ham addict, call the ham quipline. That's not just ham. If you're going to go by that list, there's a whole heap of other stuff. It's all small good, doesn't it so al army? But hang on.

Group one Castingen's alcohol is a group one castingen as well. There's there's all sorts of metals that fall into this category. Diesel engine exhaust falls into that category as well.

We wouldn't want to be a mechanic ham sandwich.

Some viral infections fall into that category as well. It's a pretty broad group of stuff that causes cancer.

But is there evidence from the big ham consuming nations that they're all carking in earlier? Now that's that's that's a graph we need to see. Let's go and interview people at Boccheria Market and Barcelona, where I think everyone ex leg you'll come on every three weeks.

Your research has found that seventy percent of Australians have changed their energy habits to save money. The prop track origin Australian Home Energy Reports is fifty two percent of people are turning off lights more often, while forty two are turning off appliance. As senior economist Eleanor Krea says, sixty five percent of respondents are also planning to invest in a more energy efficient.

Home, adding solar reducing air conditioning, usage, installing energy efficient impliances, reducing thermostat heating are or using energy efficient.

Devices your energy efficient heater this morning, because it is pretty cool eight degrees outside in the city. We are the coolest capital city in the country. It is significantly warmer in Canberra this morning, Adelaidians. You have every right to feel cold. Eight degrees right now, heading for the top of twenty one twenty Tomorrow, twenty nineteen. On Friday, maybe now up to three meals of rain, same two for Saturday, maybe up to three meals of rain. Sunday is going to be cool. Minimum of seven, maximum of seventeen. How about Monday though, overnight love of five degrees you're top of eighteen Tuesday six and nineteen.

Expected will ready be wearing his shorts here on Monday because he's wearing them today. Well that Tom.

Laughs in the face of cold, and that remains to be seen. Tom Rene is in the studio to make room for Renos. Augustina.

It's a bush. You're having a stock clearance sale.

Oh now at Nailsworth and Mowson Lakes.

Mon Are you're any mining boys.

It might be cold here, but I tell you what, it's getting very hot at AFL house. There is a lot going on there at the moment.

I think you.

Boys have had a bit of a look at the story that's unfolded in the last sort of twelve to eighteen hours. It's got people questioning and this will be a story that develops throughout the day. What is going on at league headquarters. We had the mishandling, if you like, of the Noah Boult situation, the cock up last week with really Rioli and now this and what am I talking about? Well, freemant of Collingwood.

Last week.

People might have seen the game Lockie Schultz was knocked out late in the game, play wasn't stopped and a subsequent investigation was conducted by the AFL. They sent out a release the next day and it said, to the words of the effect the umpires did not see the injured player at the time. If they did, play would have stopped. Ticked off by Josh Marny, head of the football department. Tipped off by Laura Kine, who's one of the most senior executives at the AFL. Ticked off by all and sundry audio emerges in the last twenty four hours. Channel seven's agenda senders are set as release at last night, Caroline Wilson kne corns saying that was the umpires, explicitly saying yep, the players there play on, you know because until they get told. So who's leaked this audio or how the AFL haven't seen this audio before signing off on? This initial investigation has you questioning what is going on with the chain of command, who's communicating with Who are the umpires throwing the a field apartment under the bus or is it vice versa? It's an absolute mess.

The bit I didn't get Tom was who was meant to make the call? Was it the four umpires on the field or who what were the voices?

Was it?

Well?

That was that?

Was that the umpires out there talking to each other.

I think they were talking to each other, but I think there's also someone overseeing.

So how could any of the people who were looking at that not make a call because it was like the footage of him, the guy looked like a newborn fole. Let's listen to what was released. He's the audio.

Ye, how did you playing with little?

Yeah?

We're okay? Where okay?

So either the AFL thought the most convenient cover up was the umpires didn't say it or they don't understand their own process, And I'm not sure what's more discomforting.

Well, the first one, if that's the case, it shows the AFL deliberately lied about it, and that's does it not?

Yes, that's the implation if that's the case.

Because I think if at the time they made a mistake, the umpires people would say, you know what, it's a quick game that happens. But the fact they then tried to cover it up and hope that it would go away, I think that's the deeper issue now.

But how can they not see it with four umpires? I know the guy did say he looked like he'd come out of the Arundel Street behind the Street pub at five o'clock in the morning. He was falling flat on his face.

One of the umpires then goes under say, unless we're told to stop play, we cannot stop play. So it's who I think the whole process.

Have a bloody umpires. I know it's it doesn't make any sense. It is.

It's all a bit weird, but it's one of those things where I think the cover up it's a bit like watergated worse.

Than the actual crime. Yeah, totally.

So anyway, keep your eyes on.

Well, I wonder just thinking, did someone in the a f L say it looks better for the umpires if they didn't see it, as opposed to the umpires didn't understand what they were meant to do in that situation.

Yes, I think that's probably right.

And now it's been released and they did see it, So that's what the theory is. The umpires might have leaked this sort of saying we did see it.

Yeah we didn't think. Yeah, that's right. I would have leaked it.

The umpires if they feel like they've been hung out to dry by the AFL saying yeah, okay, you know these clowns didn't see it, I guess, and they've gone hang on. We did, and we were hearing to what we thought was the process. Yeah, I could imagine that might be. That might be the kind of reason you would release something like that.

Caro has gone met an umpire in a car, party's smoking a cigarette and continue with Tommy Wren.

Just not had a good couple of weeks, bad couple of weeks.

How good footy.

Yourself though brilliant bet closest rounds. It's nineteen seventy, so more good footy, good on, You're ready, thanks boys, Thanks to David Penberthy and Will Goodings. Six to nine five double a breakfast.

Twenty seven touch of etiqutte coming up in just a moment we get loose in to the studio. I think we've got a listener a listener supplied etiquette question this morning, and we've got a whole bunch of beer and barbecue festival tickets to give away if you want to participate. It's the simplest calling an eight double two three double O, double O with your sense of this curly question we've got this morning.

So many jobs here that no longer exists, hous This one from someone who calls themselves the mayor of Hackham. Is there a mayor of Hackham? No, there's not. Hackam would be an on kapringa, would it not? Anyway, I like the name the Mayor of Hackham, Mayor of Hackeam, says. One of my first jobs hanging off the back of a truck doing household garbage bins, hence my name Bindog Bindog. The Bindog Sylvia says, guys, I worked at Smith's snack foods at Regency Park during school holidays, packing chips into boxes. It's all done by machines now, and I moved on from that first job in the nineteen eighties. Paul in the eighties says, I saw the advertiser on the side of the road after school. I sold the footy record footy budget. Was a kid for a while, did you Yeah? What do they cast? Back then? He got paid by commission? No, no, what are the budgets? Oh, I don't know, probably fifty cents maybe less. And what's this one? Here we go from Dave Mum worked at the Exchange, the telephone exchange with Foss William's wife, and left after the war to get married and have twelve kids. How about that one here from Mark in Power Hills. I used to be an amateure reminder electric motor it says. I don't even know what that is. It's almost a dead job now because of cheap Chinese imports. And talking about video stores. That excellent call that we had earlier from Craig Catherine says, I remember my dad paying a one hundred dollar life membership to our local view. Still yeah, another one here, daughter, door bread or milk deliveries. Oh okay, an armature here I am. I know nothing about how engines work. Looses handily passed me the phone armature, the rotating coil or coils of a dynamo or an electric motor. Did you know that?

Well?

I was not aware of that. Have a pull a car, a partner reassembled? No broke a few that's what right? I thank you Lise, keep the coming fakes.

Thank you eight double two to three double double all the text lines did before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. Time for a touch of eedicit on this Wednesday. But do we always appreciate it when listeners send in their own questions for the panel to discuss, and of course all of our five double A breakfast listeners. You can always do that by calling Luis or Jess anytime out in the booth eight double two three double a double A. You can text them through to us. Lucy keeps a record and we work our way through board.

If you lose.

Good morning, We have Beer and Barbecue Festival tickets for someone who rings in this morning. Love to get you a long on the King's Long Weekend to the Beer and Barbecue Fest for their final Drinks as we know it. This one comes from David Alberton. I'm not sure if Dave has had a personal run in in this situation or has just come up with it. Dave, if you do have a personal story, please let me know about it. But would love to hear from you this morning. And if Stacy Lee were awake, I would give a ring, but she's coming up seven eight months into her pregnancy, so I probably won't ring her. But it is to do with baby bumps, Dave said. I overheard someone say they were body shamed when someone complimented their baby bump. He complimented it, yes, but then that person, the female, must have felt body shamed. Do we even go near the baby bump word ever? Anymore?

To the pregnant?

So I think the question goes to, can you compliment a woman who's pregnant on.

How she looks? Yeah, he may past comment on how she looks?

Ever be positive even if you know they are certainly pregnant. Obviously, the old wives tile you never just take a stab in the dark and say what do you do?

But I don't want to get that one wrong.

Yeah, well exactly, But now do you even if you are confident they are pregnant. Do you just not say a single thing?

I'd go further and throw in what about touching a woman's baby bump?

Huge?

No, do not touch without permission?

Yeah.

I think that's a generational thing though. I think older relatives will all just touch the bump.

Yeah. Yeah, well it depends what are you talking about. I mean, if it's your daughter, yes, of course, or your sister. It's different like a workmate or someone on public trends.

No, that's a no, no, that's a big no no. But people do it. Yeah, clearly much more accepted at some point in time.

There is a thing.

And I would will never speak on behalf of the fair of sex, Louise, But whether I always find totally bizarre with women that get concerned about appearance whilst pregnant, as though someone might go, oh mates, let herself.

Go, but.

You might to get the concept of where life comes from.

Females do say that about other females.

Yeah, but when pregnant, yep, females are horrible?

Really yep, I just don't. I've never looked at a predit person going oh god, what went wrong there? No? No, I've got a basic understanding of biology that.

Puts you in the wonderful type of people.

Then Will that's that's good? What I don't think anyone does that. Maybe I'm naive.

You're opening my eyes loose complimenting people clearly didn't go.

To an old girls school.

Will, No, I didn't. I didn't. He tried.

Eight double two to three double o double o or zero four zero thirty ninety five beer and barbecue, still tickets to give away one. If people've got memories of their pregnancy, whether they were showered with compliments or they felt they wish people.

Didn't notice it, that's exactly it. Do you just wish no one says anything and it just moves past you like the great elephant in the room. Probably the wrong phrase to you.

You're part of the problem.

I know Stacey is on the line Stacy and Richmond, Morning Stacy, But morning.

My winmen are so excited when they expecting, and I have a real blow about them and make just to talk about baby. So why not them and wry congrast your motions and be part.

Of happier Yeah that's fair enough. I'm got to say the part of your opening spiel. I know you weren't saying that you were really this. I hear the word body shaming and immediately my sort of anti PC old guy and ten I start twitching madly, where I think, calm down. You know, there's a bit of this sort of It's a bit like the I'm capable of getting the door myself, like, there's a bit of that modern knee jerk. How dare anybody? It's almost like gas lighting, like the term gas lighting. I understand people can be gas.

Lit correctly, but there are people who.

Like talk about the most minor of slights or intrusions turning it into something where they actually need to be counseled for about of anxiety as a result of that. And I just think, lighten up.

Some good text coming through. Georgia says I've just given birth to my twins a week before, and our local food land manager came up to me at the shops and said, surely not much longer now. I went home and cried my eyes out. That's awful, Georgia.

Yeah, fair enough, Georgia, cry that's.

That's not great. Con says my wife was pregnant. Now twelve year old daughter was so embarrassed. She said she kept saying, Hi, your stomach, mummy, thank you for that con we got, Brad, there we do Brad, good morning.

Good morning guys. Well I just have a little bit of a quip about it. I've got a young son and we were we were on holidays and people in their swimsuits, and there was a lady who was pregnant and we explained it to him. Was he was four years old. And then there was a lady sitting next to us at the bar and she was rather large chest did and he must go. He turns around and goes, so she's got two babies. No, oh, okay, you're not not quite the same mate, bubes.

Oh that's exceptional. Brad.

We could do a talk around what your kids have said. That's funny.

Yeah, we could be. That might be etiqotte for another day. How to manage when your kids say things they shouldn't.

I take on board your PC comment Dave about has a bit of an air of like, how dare you comment on my body these days? But I I just think, especially if you're a female and you're feeling particularly under the weather on that day, sometimes the worst thing someone says is God, you look great and you're just feeling like crap, and sometimes you just think, no, I'm seven months, I'm bloated, don't talk to me. I haven't been pregnant, so I don't know.

But cat all that look forward to.

You know, when Stacy comes into looking exhausted, She's thrilled obviously, but I'm like, gee, it's not really selling it to me at this stage anyway.

Do you just avoid it?

Total awe of what women do in the reproductive department. I've seen it happened four times and it never gets any less remarkable. And I don't think blokes could even go close to doing that. Do you will?

Oh?

No, the humor would have seized millennia regards. That's just we when none of us would be here. We'll give Brad the beer and barbecue festival tickets. Of the bottom line is that the word radiant exists for a reason. Yeah, radiant, you look radiant.

It's a nice, all encompassing term. Radiant is a nice, all encompassing term. Getting some great text that I think actually end up doubling his suggestions for future touches of etiquette, Dan asked one about strangers touching your baby, which is I totally get Dan. We're the same thing. When you ever knew born, people tend to think it's public property, and it's sometimes it's bizarre.

We went to Van no Arti when Charlie was a baby years ago on a family holiday and he's a cute little kid, I mean all babies are. All these islander women loved him so much that this lady who was like cleaning the a little cabin will staying in this resort, she came moment and she said, I wanted to take Charlie to show him to my friend. I love Charlie. Is that okay? And we're like, yeah, that's fine. And this woman, she was just a huge, huge lady. Her hands were bigger than Charlie. She picked him up like he's a little Steeden League ball. But she had a golf cart, so she went out with all the cleaning stuff on the back of it and she put him in the golf cart and she drop off with him and k goes, where are you gone? I don't know? And he was gone for about ten minutes and then she came back and she had one of a friend and now I just told him. He was as happy as Larry and she took him to the cleaners area and every day she just wanted to take him to him.

Literally, it can be very confronted in Australia had the way. Other cultures as well, the real really communal cultures, like those specific island of cultures.

FIG's like that.

We went there on my fortieth we took the family away. I didn't see her and she was at that stage, what six months old.

She just she lived with them. It was amazing. She loves a underground barbecued pork as a result.

That's exactly right. Don't till that hand person. Let's say to the Weather Bureau. Jenny Horvat is on Judy Bonn here.

Jenny, good morning guys.

It's starting to get pretty chilly in these mornings.

Yeah, that's right. That minimum temperature of seven point seven not that long ago, just after six am, but it has sprung up to nine degrees a little bit cooler today. We're in a bit of a south southwesterly airstream. We had a bit of a wheak trough c lipping the south there, so temperatures around twenty one degrees for the city in northern suburbs twenty along the Coast nineteen four Mount Barker. Look, we've got a slight shower on the forecast there, but I wouldn't get too excited about anything too significant with that. And as we stay in that subtly airstream tomorrow again, maybe the chance to see a little bit of light shower activity, best chance, I think, as we head into later part on Friday with another front clipping the state and those temperatures coming down to a round eighteen degrees by the weekend.

Good stuff, Jenny, thanks for that.

Thank you.

We're crossing out of Stapole Kimberly broad seeing you comfortable, Kimblely broad from Stapole.

Good morning, Kimberly.

What's the go with this drink driver at Melrose Park?

Yeah, it's just before midnight. We received a report of a land Rover which was swerving in and out of its lane on South Road at Melrose Park. Southern District Patrols were able to locate and stop the vehicle. That driver was breast tested and allegedly produced a blood alcohol reading of zero point one nine zero. So that drivers a twenty three year old man from Walkerville. He's been reported for drink driving. His car has been impounded and he's also lost his license for twelve months on the spot.

So he'll be.

Appearing in court to face those charges at a later date.

Also, Kimberly, you're appealing for help from the public to find a silver car.

Yeah, so this was relates to a hit run, a fatal crash that happened last Tuesday, the sixth of May. It was at about eleven o'clock at night. So we had a twenty year old woman from Green Acres. She died after being struck by a car. She was on the northeast bound carriageway off Northeast Road near Fourth Street at Hillcrest. The drive of the car failed to stop and it continued east along Northeast Road for quite some distance. So major crash investigators have been doing a lot of work on this one and they now believe that the vehicle involved is a silver Suberu Liberty Sedan. That driver has not yet presented to police and they are urged to come forward to assist in that crash investigation. But we also had investigators seeking assistance from the public and also from crash of pairs. They who may have repaired or quoted damage to the front of a Suberu Liberty sedan since last Tuesday asking those people to come forward. But yeah, we've uploaded some images to our website if anyone recognizes the vehicle and can give us any information as to who the driver might be, if they could provide that information via crime stoppers on one eight hundred trip or three triples zero.

Yeah, yeah, I must admit that the footage of that woman on the road, and she was on the road for quite an extended period of time, it's a really strange and unusual case. I just don't get it. Eleven thirty at night on Northeast Road, and you almost feel sorry for the driver in this situation where you know, if they did I don't know if they came forward and said, look, I didn't realize I didn't even know it was a person. Who knows. They might have thought it was an animal. But it's just a shocking and weird set of circumstances. Kimberly, thanks for that, Senior Comfortable Kimberly broad from SAP eleven thirty at night, she was kneeling down on the road, you said the footage on TV.

Yeah, this is something very odd with regard to the whole thing. So what you're saying is we shouldn't rule out when we say hit run, we imagine someone's You think.

About hit runs, you think it's someone who's drunk or is just a scumbag and doesn't care. I just think that the circumstances here make the frame of possibilities wider than that.

You know, It's not like so someone might not right now. They just might have no concept it was them.

Well they might know, they might they well, yes, Equally, they might technically be on the run thinking bloody ell, I've killed someone. How how did that even happen? Why were they even there? And they've freaked out. But if it is category two, you've got to come forward because the longer you leave it, the worst it is. That's a separate crime. Yeah, and so it should be concealing a crime. And you know, a death, well you don't want that on your conscience, forgetting the legalities of it, you know, but for the for the motorcy did it like who expects that at eleven thirty someone nearly and she looked like she was wearing all black.

Clothes as well, Yeah, it wasn't. Yeah, I know what you're saying, that the Turner phrase uses. What the spectrum of possibility is broader than we might have we might otherwise associate with this kind of event. Yeah, let's head to Jade Robin, who's out in the road for us covering all the big local stories borning to you.

Jade, Good morning guys. There is a spectacular natural event happening right now that's only occurred four times in one hundred and sixty years. Lake Air It is starting to fill up and it is absolutely magnificent. It's the first time it's filled since nineteen seventy four. So floodwaters from southwest Queensland and northeast South Australia they're making their way to the lake and it's transforming this dry salt bed into an absolutely spectacular outback oasis. Now it's already creating one of the country's rarest ecological and tourism events. Now Australian Air Safaris tour group, they're just one of many who have been taking groups and posting videos to social media. So maybe google our YouTube and jump on and try and find some videos because it's starting to fill up now and the before and afters is going to be absolutely stunning. So when the lake is fully inundated, it's going to rejuvenate those salt lake cross that's there now. The wildlife and the surrounding vegetation will also be rejuvenated, and when the waters rise, a huge variety of species, many of them really quite rare, will come to life and will be attracted to the lake. Now at the lowest point in Australia fifteen meters below sea level, the lake covers about nine thousand, five hundred square kilometers and it co is co managed with the Arabana people there so, and this is an interesting part. The brine shrimp. They hatch their eggs in the dry soil. Millions of water birds and breeding birds from as far as China and Japan will migrate to the lake, and fish in those flood waters will spawn and eat those shrimps that have laid their eggs in the dry soil. So the best way to see the lake and these hundreds of species of bird life that a little tract is from the air. But visitors are going to witness this spectacular, amazing event of the lake from dedicated viewing points within the park. They are able to go there and they can camp. So visitors will be keen to see this rare event. Now if you head to Halligan Bay Point Campground now that's located on the shores of the lake. The campgrain ground is exposed. It's a flat area with toilets and picnic shelters. They say that if you can find your way there and your fall drive, it is one of the world's most amazing experiences.

No doubt.

It's going to be a very busy time ahead with nature lovers and bird watchers and photographers wanting to experience this rare event. But if you do want to, you can find more information of the Lake Air National Park, including about all these camping areas, jump online to Parks dot say, dot gov dot AU. But it's an amazing natural event happening right now in our own beautiful backyard here in Essa.

It is magnificently described. Thank you for that. Jay five to Blow News is coming up in just a moment. We are going to bring you across all the things happening across South Australia, including the tragedy in Streaky Bay two women swept out to sea yesterday. We're off to Streaky Bay live to the scene next.

David Pemberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double A breakfast.

No, I mean it's after see it, but beautiful morning outside. Happy look at the sun coming over the hills on the Facebook and YouTube live stream. Cool though coldest capital city in the country this morning. Right now it is a little it's warming up a little bit. We're up to eight point nine degrees, still cooler than anywhere. Melbourne at nine point six the next closest heading for a top of twenty one has just third in five double A news. Coming up this hour, We're going to do something that we've never done before, crossing to a pope's favorite pizza joint. I mean about that, not through lack of trying. Joe Aurelio runs Arelio as Pizza in Chicago. This is where Pope Leo goes when he's in town visiting family. So we're going to chat with Joe. Looking forward to that. Sean Future join us. We'll go around the courts with Sean. Koshi's coming up a little bit later, and we're gonna be chatting with one of the underwater cinematographers who worked on the new David Attenborough film Ocean that has just been released.

His name is Tom Park, fascinated to talk to him. I really can't wait to get into the whole question around the algall bloom with him. What about yesterday? Those angel sharks which are those amazing beautiful sharks a bit like wobblegongs, have got that speckled color. Yep, they live right on the bottom of the seabed with that great camouflage. Hardly ever seen it. They've washed up dead. I think it was on York Peninsula. It's just terrible. What's happening.

Yeah, it was York Peninsula. They're called monkfish, some people call them that.

We don't you know what.

We talk about the algall bloom a lot, but I still don't think we talk about it enough. Guys on the front page of the BBC their BBC's news page this morning, if you go there, they're calling it an ocean horror movie and they're talking about South Australia and this algal bloom. The species called Karena micke motoy. This is the one that started on Flurio. It's moved to the York Peninsula.

Apparently it's the size of Kangaroo Island. And the bloom it's just gigantic. It seems like it seems like, although no one can give a definitive answer, we need rain and storms to finish it. There was a guy quoted in the paper this morning, a marine biology to someone who studied marine biology, quoted in the Ties this morning saying, and this to me feels about right. The level of devastation will probably take a.

Decade to replenish itself. What's happening out there again, there is the novelty element of fish species washing up on metropolitan beaches a B. There's a mass killing of marine life going on out there, and we don't have any answer ab how to stop it. We don't know how long it's going to go on for, and we've sort of just come to accept it is just one of those things. Well around the world, they're not looking at us going it's one of those things. So this is the sort of event that just never happens. It's something worth talking about and we shouldn't just pass it off as random weird picture opportunity.

Yeah.

Completely, there's a total disaster that's playing out off of our coastlines at the moment.

Here in South Australia. It was an awful.

Tragedy that played out off our coast over the course of the last twenty four hours at Streaky Bay, where two women succumbed to the ocean, a sixty five year old local and a sixty seven year old from Sturt who'd been fishing. We believe they were pulled from the water at Back Beach, which is less than ten k's from Streaky Bay. It's where we find Kazia Sullivan for nine News here in Adelaid Kazaiah, good morning to you.

Good morning.

So that's the sort of broad detail. What do we know about the women's movements, What do we know about the area, and what are locals telling you about the ocean there and how dangerous it may or may not be.

Oh well, I've spoken to a local fisherman who says that that area is quite well known for salmon and whiting fishing, salmon and ground most of the beach, so it is quite dangerous. Yesterday there was a big tide as well.

So it's like.

Unfortunately thin because I's phone is letting it down a little bit there just in the boondocks. Yeah, that's the nature of it being that part of the world. I guess, just a tragic set of circumstances though, and again any listeners that are familiar with Back Beach or the area and have fished there before.

So they were they fishing. That's the belief.

The belief is that there were belief, and that's because I was saying, so it's a known spot where you go to get salmon and other things. Let's try let's try again. We'll see because I was just moved a little bit and got that phone working again. Sorry, because are you just talking to us about how the local fisherman had told you the sort of reasons why it was a popular go to fishing spot.

Yeah. So it is quite rippy around that area, and it is deep water really close to the beach, so it is dangerous full stop out there. But yesterday he says, there was a big tide as well, and the water was coming in quicker and it was.

Big as well.

So it is like that these one of these women could have got taken by those big waves yesterday morning. We know that one of them did get into trouble and the other tried to help them and then they've got dragged out. So it really is just awful circumstances here for this small community of Streaky Bay.

Yeah, it's a very tiny town. Because iron I'm sure that the locals will be feeling this deeply. Thank you for that report terror story.

I'm getting reports of a bit of a fog around Adelaide this morning. Port Wakefield too, well, a little bit foggy out there, so that whilst the picture on the iPhone on a stick says it's quite bright and nice outside of the moment, it's foggy in certain places.

You know what's Foggi's on Port Wakefield Road. He sent a picture through of it, Will he did? He did?

It looks quite dense, you know, it's foggy and impenetrable. Moment trying to break out when we're going to get a new women's and children's hospital. The have a really intriguing story today where they got hold of some documentation that said the Women's and Children's Hospital will be open in twenty thirty three thirty four, which is notable because it's three years later than what the official website and the state government have been saying. The Women's and Children's Health Network Governing Board was given an update from the executive lead of the project team, which gave that timeline Subsequently to the reporting, the Women's and Children's Health Network have come out and said, well, that is not accurate. In a one line statement the chief executive, Rebecca Graham. So the new Women's Children's Hospital completion date remains twenty thirty thirty.

One, but it remains it, or remains the written down version that they're sticking with.

At least, well, you're invited to speculate given the presence of another date on another document.

I found this story fascinating. It's a great get by the TiSER because off the back of nothing other than a hunch based on how much it costs fix your fence at the moment. The last time or the second last time, we had the Treasurer on for his regular spot. Remember, we asked him the question is it still? Is the cost still? What is it? Three point two? Three point two? Three point two originally was two point three. I think that's right. It was two point three under the Libs, and Labor said, will the lives of kidding themselves? If I think it's going to stay, it's going to stay at that same guestimate figure for five years. With everything that happened with supply chain and whatever, and the cost of materials post COVID. So Labour said, yeah, it's now three point two. But our question was is it still three point two because it's been three point two for a long time. The Treasurer looked at it's in the iron, said, hand on heart. The next budget. They are the figures that we are using. So this year's budget, from what we're told, will show no change to borrowings or anything, because the cost of it has not officially gone.

Up well, and the date, if the date hasn't officially blown out, well, then that's probably right. But if you add three years of time.

To it, what's the cumulative inflation rate over three years normally in this country? It's normally at least about six percent, isn't it.

Yeah, well that's what they aim for. Let's say they aim for two point five percent, so be seven point five percent.

So a low inflation environment is that the cost of a three point two building will definitely have gone up by six percent at the bare minimum if it's three years later. Yeah. The government's hotly denying the dates though, aren't.

They They are They seem to be steadfast that it's still going to be twenty thirty thirty one.

It's sort of see what happens is the next budget comes out shows no change. So all there in black and white, you can read it's all on the budget papers. Next year they have the election, they win the election, the budget after that that a closer look at this project. Oh we've yeah, that's how it works.

We're not going to rush this. This is an important project for South Australia to write. I could write the press release.

Right now if you like. We'll save some We'll save the taxpayers some money. I mean, the one thing they the labour has got up at sleeve is it the limbs put it off too.

It was gigantic proje. It spanned multiple governments. I think people at the back of their mind think it's worth progressing faster than it is because you drive past and go, oh that's stuff going on.

But that's the car park. Well. The other thing that they have done is they have had a smoking ceremone. Oh good, to cleanse the land. Have done that, so it's not like thing's been going on.

Right.

Well, it's one step at a time. I guess that's right. Let's chick traffic.

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Twenty two after seven. Now we just did our rap of the big morning stories, as we do after seven o'clock. We have a look around our Gill Bloom that tragic story at Streaky Bay, talked about the women's and children's hospital blat. It didn't occur to either of us to mention the new Liberal leader federally is that's not a great sign for the party, is it. Susan Lee, of the leadership contest yesterday, spent a.

Lot of last week trying to work out how to pronounce a surname. You know, she's into numerology. That's why she spills Susan with three s's. Yeah, it's not a given name. Susan is her given name spelled the normal way traditionalists might say, the proper way. But apparently she bunged an extra s in there to I don't know a line her shakras or whatever it is you do with numerology. Well I would, I mean, my first instinct is to mock, but Yeah, here we are.

She's the leader of the Liberal Party now, so well, maybe the neumerologist has nailed that one.

I think it says something about the paucity of talent that the Liberal Party now has federally that the contest was between a bloke who was roundly and widely denounced as a do nothing shadow treasurer went head to head with someone who comes not so much with political baggage as her own baggage carousel. I mean, she was turfed from cabinet over an entitlement scandal. She bought an apart while she was ostensibly on work time in the Gold Coast, Like it's a target rich environment. If she does last until the next election, and we know Labour's capacity for generating extremely effective attack ads, they don't have a field day with her. Twenty nine to twenty five was at the party room. Yeah, and the other thing something like she's you need one person to change their mind and she's cactus.

That is the most precarious leadership. That's a disastrous result forgetting the names and the records. Having it decided by a slim margin is a recipe to be back here doing this again in six months.

Yeah, and for those who'd argue, I mean, on paper, it's a red letter day for feminism because finally a good thing, the Liberals have a female leader. It does have a touch of the Joan Kerners about it, though, where you think, well, actually the Liberals have their own leader because everything has gone to hell in a handbasket and they're just gone, right, what can we do now? Hang on, there's one. Yeah, let's put her saying it's exactly Margaret Thatcher. No, no, it doesn't feel like Margaret Thatcher. Though it doesn't feel like Margaret Thatcher. Here is Susan Lee yesterday.

It is an enormous privilege to have been elected the leader of the Parliamentary Liberal Party. I am humbled, I am honored, and I am up for the job.

Ted.

Is terrific to have you joined me as a deputy here in this room just a couple of hours ago. Our colleagues placed their faith and their trust in us, and these positions are gifts of our party room, and I will always respect and value what the members of my party room tell me.

The Ted, she's referring to you, and I spend quite a lot of time paying attention to what's happening in politics when because you Senterprice was going to run, she pulled out and didn't do it in the end, probably because of all the dramas going on between the Liberals and the Nationals, and maybe she just thought serving enough to go, We're not going to win and I'm not going to block the copybook. Correct. But when they said O'Brien deputy, my first thought was, what is it Riley or windscreens? I never heard of Ted O'Brien who yesterday had you.

No, i'd heard of Ted O'Brien, And my represor action was Ted O'Brien, which.

Isn't great either. Apparently we've had him in the studio. Yeah we have, Yeah, we have. He's been in the studio. Really Yep. I've got no recollection. I made it. We had a good chat with him. What was that about.

Darryl thinks we're being unfair attacking the lives and Terry thinks we're being unfair attacking let the labor Party. So I think we've nailed that half out. Let's talk sport.

This is interesting.

Last not of the sports show. The boys at Rowie TBG were reacting to Gold Coast coach Damian Hardwoo. He had a radical idea for making the fixture fairer. His view is, have the double up games only be worth two points. So the way it works at the moment is all eighteen teams play six teams twice and the other teams they play once. Okay, So so if you.

Play West Coast twice and you beat them twice, you get six points.

No, you get four points as opposed to eight points as it's on right now, So each game's worth two. He says, that would eliminate the unevenness in the fixture, becauset the moment's impossible because not everyone plays everyone twice. Someone's copping Collingwood twice and someone's copping West Coast twice. Okay, And he's saying this would be a way to even it out. Here's what Rowe and Timmy g Thort.

The first one double up games are only worth two points.

So your first double up game, if you win it, you get two. If you lose the second one, zero points, or you've got to win the double.

To get your four, So you have to win both to get your four points, which is yeah, I appreciate his endeavor to get some sort of evenness in that fixture, because what, unfortunately think will happen with that system is you could probably get worse scenarios where I've heard Carlton play West Coast and North Melbourne twice. So he's saying we'll make it harder for him to get that four points, but I don't know.

He needs to stay with his cap backwards, whistle in hand and move the cones. I reckon the dumbest idea in the history of ideas.

I reckon the closer we can get these ideas man.

To playing each other once and that's it, and then having some sort of system after that for a longer final series or something like that, then that is probably the only way we're going to get as fair as possible.

I agree with totally what Team's head, and in fact with what Rowan's head.

I originally thought it was stupid, but I actually think what he's trying to do is one hundred percent right because the fixtures, it stands, is dumb. Why is there Why do Carlton have sixteen points on offer by playing the easy beat sides in the competition when there are other sides that that will play them ones each have eight points on offer, but it is the current.

Way is stupid. Why are the two Adelaide sides have to go to Mars Stadium It will exactly for their guarantees execute sub zero.

Temperature, So it might have been it's an out there let's it's currently stupid. So any solution I don't think is more radically more stupid than the AFL fixture currently is. Okay, But Tim's right, like, if we're being adults and we're moving towards a truly sophisticated and fair competition, we're not doing this weird number of games where you play, you know, a third of the teams, you're playing twice, and that's that's subject to how you went last year.

Like the SAFL has got the perfect book set up now because you play every team the same amount of times at home and away. Yeah, if the AFL say, like down the track, they've got twenty teams, Tazzy comes in, another team comes in, people say, okay, we play all the teams nineteen times, and as Tim said, make the finals longer, have a twenty nineteen game, mine a round, take a few games. I don't know, I don't know. But then the debate then will be come, Oh you're playing them at home or away?

Well least at least in that system, you can say, well, over a two year period, you've played everyone home in a way that's true, which might not ever happen the way you haven't. Carlton didn't come play Adelaide at Adelaide Oval for fifteen.

Years or whatever it was.

It was something ludicrous, and that can happen with this current stupid system.

The idea of making so backward and the idea of making the mine around even one round shorter. Well that's not how much money is the aofl prepared to give up?

Yeah, well they're not. It's not gonna happen. It's all academic. Seven thirty five, Double A Newstime back with Mornamment.

David Penberthy and Will Goodings. Six to nine five Double A Breakfast.

Twenty minutes two eight.

Very shortly off to Chicago to chat with Joe Aurilio. He sells pizzas to the Pope, or at least he did when Pope Leo was living in Chicago, would visit family in Chicago, he'd go to a Rilio's pizza. That's what we're heading before eight o'clock Koshi coming up after eight. But right now it's not for Sean Fusta.

It's time to go around the courts with Sean Fusta on five double a breakfast.

Around the courts and into the Cassete knows it may well be in this guy, Sean fused a good morning to you, Good.

Morning boys, fansy a bit of an early morning flutter.

Yeah, this is.

A really interesting They're always interesting, but this is really interesting this morning, Sean. Just the same for our listeners.

So back in May of twenty nineteen, a Chinese millionaire by the name of Linong Mark came on a gambling junket to SkyCity, Adelaide. Nothing unusual back in those days, those sort of things happened. It was organized by two men from one from Overseas Fung Jung Chen and another from Sydney Syongmings.

Yeah.

The whole idea was that the high roller mister Maher would come to Adelaide, have a hostess or an escort assigned to hear me. He'd be able to take his Chinese money transferred into Australian dollars, have a flutter on the casino, do whatever he felt like take his winnings and go on home again.

He alleged in.

The Supreme Court, however, that what happened was he won five million dollars on a one million dollar steak, and then things when, in his words, strange. He wasn't allowed to cash in his chips. The escort suddenly had her authority to act on behalf of mister Sierre Vanish. Someone else came and took his chips. They were put in a safety deposit box. All sorts of things went on, and when he eventually cashed out, instead of getting the five million dollars he won and the one million dollar steak that he put in, he reckons he only got just shy of two million back. So we sued everybody.

How do we know that it's real, though, Chilan, That.

Is a really good question, Pembo, and I'd love to tell you. But what happens when Chinese millionaires and million dollar casinos and people who are alleged by mister martinby members of the Chinese triad go to war in court. Everything starts happening behind the scenes. Everything starts happening on the paperwork and on the documents and in ways and means that mean that the average joe like you and I doesn't get to see all the workings out. Now, SkyCity said, we've done nothing wrong. All we did was accept a drunket. The whole idea of proceeds of the junket, who gets money, who gets commissioned, things like that. That's all mister Sierre's problem. That's all mister fung Chung's problem. Sorry, fung Chen's problem. Mister fung Chen didn't file anything, didn't turn up to court, didn't get involved. And mister Sierre said outright, I wasn't even there. I don't know who he's talking about. May night, twenty nineteen. Junket wasn't me, must have been somebody else. And this has been going on in the Supreme Court since twenty nineteen.

So what about the casino's role in it? What role are they playing in this whole process?

Well, SkyCity said in their defense papers that they were simply the place where it was being held, all arrangements about hips and transfer of money and any form of commission and who walked away with what was the responsibility of the person on the scene. Now, mister Mars said that was mister Sierre mister Sierre said he wasn't there. Mister fung Chen said nothing. So it was very confusing, and it's got a little bit of that whole Ocean's eleven kind of field, you know, a bit of a shell game where what's gone on, where, who's responsible for what? And as I said, mister Marr doubled down and said that mister Sierre was actually alleged to be in New South Wales a member of the Chinese triad, and said that he had heard New South Wales had policed New South Wales police sorry had alleged that mister Sierre had menaced somebody for ten million dollars worth of property at knife point just a month after this junken here in Adelaide.

So what's the hold up, Sean? Why has this one been so slow progressing through? There are there witnesses that waiting are there is there evidence that needs to be explored. What causes something like this to be six years in now?

Well, a big part of the problem was mister jung Chen himself, because he didn't get involved in the matter in any way, shape or form. And like just recently, Sam Abbot KC for mister Maher went to the Supreme Court and said, look, my client has been successful in brokering confidential settlements with SkyCity. We're not suing them anymore. We've broken a confidential settlement with mister Sierre, suing him anymore. We're not going to go into the details of what those settlements are because they are, of course confidential. Almost got through this without of cough. But then, you're, honor, we haven't heard anything from mister John Chen and he's not participated in negotiations, he's not participated in any form of arbitration, any of the things that the courts ordered him to do. So we say, you're on a he's the lone hold out, and Justice Laura Stein decided, well, I'm going to call his bluff. If he won't show his cards, then it's time for the house to win, and she awarded mister Marr the judgment. Well, so now mister Maher walks away with well, we don't actually know how much of his money because it's all confidential. But somewhere along the way this has all been settled under the table.

What an extraordinary story, that's amazing, And it was pig rollers, where even could attract people sture checking background tea.

Well, it's such a fascinating concept that all this sort of stuff used to go on. The skuy Sitting, to my understanding, no longer hosts junkets, and I think you can see why if you're a business here in Australia and this is the outcome of something like that, probably not worth your time in an I'm so naive.

I had no idea they would host gambling events that they weren't the ones running. Yeah, I didn't know that was part of the business model.

That's extreme.

Well, I mean, you know, they opened the doors and let someone else come in. And the whole point of this was that mister maher on his version of events, was giving his money to mister Siern, and mister Sierre was transferring it into Australian currency and then taking a commission off the top for the escort or hostess or whatever she was, and for doing the money changing and things like that. So it's a bit of an almost a sub letting type thing.

I can remember years ago at the TiSER Shawn, even before you started, during the Adelaid Grand Prix, there was a ruma doing the rounds in the news room that President Saharto's son, Tommy Sahato, had flown in with a whole stack of money guaranteed up front that he was going to gamble at the casino. And because he's a real redhead, he was involved in quite a corrupt way in Indonesia in setting up in Indonesian Formula one syndicate using some of his old man's money. And he's mum owned all the toll roads ten Saharto. But apparently he was in Adelaide under the radar, having the time of his life. But we can never stand the story up there you go.

My wife was in the music industry in North America for many years, and she spent a lot of time performing in places like Las Vegas, and she said, you'd walk through the casino in the early hours of the morning and some of the high rollers that just say, hey, you do you want to come and sit here with me and talk to me for a while, And you'd sit and you'd talk to them for a bit and then they just give you whatever money. They're just went, no, thanks very much for the conversation. CATCHU later. These people are so focused on gambling that the money almost doesn't mean anything. To them, it's about the win or the loss rather than the actual coin in the pocket.

Wow, it's my whole another world, Sean. Thank you for that remarkable insight from the Court into that world, Sean fused at Chief Court Report of the Ties. You can of course read him online or catch the Just Lawful podcast on the weekend here fifty or indeed probably the way most people listen to it by their podcast app on their phone. We're going to dial out for pizza shortly. We are the pizza that goes right to the top, Pope Leo's favorite pizza place in Chicago. Aurelio's going to join us right after this. This is going to be exceptional. Let's check traffic experience the smooth the ridge flavor of mcafe today, expertly crafted by a trained brister, just the way you like it.

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He's the first pope who you've gone been able to go see Christmas carols in videos on YouTube that we've played. He's the first who's had, as far as I know, a dispute about which baseball team he supports, Chicago White Sox. For the record, he's certainly the first pope whose local pizza have been able to call up and speak to. Joe Aurelio is the owner of Aurelio's Pizza in Chicago and joins us on five double a Breakfast here in Adelaide right now, Joe, good morning to you in Adelaide time, welcome to the program.

Good morning to you, and it's in the evening here in Chicago. So I'm glad to be on today.

I thinks for the cold Now, Joe, you've probably been a bit of a bit of a star of international media since the link between you and His Holiness became became a parent. Tell us a bit about your dealings with the Pope. How often did he pop in or call in to get a to get a pizza from you guys?

Ah, So, our business is in a town of Homewood, Illinois, which is twenty five miles south of downtown Chicago, and my dad started the company in nineteen fifty nine in the business. So we've been around for sixty six years and we've been their local pizzeria that if you live in the community, were the place that you go to. Our restaurant feats over six hundred people and anyways, the Pope's been in growing up over the years. His brothers lived in our town at one time, and we're like the center piece for if you want pizza, and especially in thin crust and the South pat of Chicago, the really a pizza is your place to go. So the Pope has been a regular customer, and he was in August of twenty twenty four while he was still the cardinal. That was his most recent visit with his friends and family that day.

And now I understand you.

You've you've called an awful mocked the table he sat at, and it's now known as the Pope's table.

Is that right?

Yeah, that's correct. You know, we had to honor his presence in our building and with the media coming, there's no better way to let them know that, yes, the Pope's here. Here's the photographs of the Pope in our restaurant that day with his friends and family, and we have a wall with pictures of them on it, and we just want to make it a special place for people to come in, actually sit at the Pope's table and dine with us, take some photographs and just to enjoy, you know, in a realio pizza and where the Pope loves to.

Come right pickure what is East Pates order? Joe.

Well, the day that his family came in, they had a pepperoni pizza which now we're called poparoni, which I trade mark Dad, And yeah, and actually the the Catholic Archdiocese is coming into our restaurant tomorrow to do some photos in an interview, and I'm going to find a way to give back to the Catholic charities or food paints and every time you get a Poperoni pizza, we're gonna make a donation back. So that's going to be talked about tomorrow and we'll come up with some form to give back to the community like we always do it at really Owes.

What a great idea, Ja, It's It's terrific. I'm just saying I'm looking at your menu now, my Mauth is watering right and the Adelite to Chicago flought. It's probably a good sort of twenty hours or something, but I'd love to get out of there. You got twenty twenty three different types of paces.

Yeah, that's that's correct. And also we have thirty five locations throughout Chicagoland, Northwest Indiana, Florida, Las Vegas, and Minnesota, so if you can't make it to Chicago, you might find it in another state.

Are you a classicist when it comes to the type of pizza you like, because in Chicago. Here in Australia we sort of linked you guys to deep dish. But are you more of the traditional Italian style or a variety of styles?

No, well, we make all we make. Five styles are thin crust is what we're famous for and known for, and it's we called tavern tavern style, which is thin crust cutting small squares, and we also serve big crust pizza. We serve deep fish pizza, stuffed pizza, and our celebrise which is like a cal zone, which is a folded over bus with all gredient stuff in the middle, which is cooked golden brown and delicious too.

That looks sen Sasha which we've got some video in our livestream at the moment, so up up into the Pope being in the first spot. That was the most famous person you had come through your Aurelio's Pizza.

Joe.

Oh my goodness. Like I said, we've been in business in nineteen fifty nine percent six years and we've had movie stars, athletes, football, baseball. I don't know if you've heard of Joe Demasio. Yeah, Ernie, Ernie, Dan Marino football President. Biden had our pizza when he was a senator. So yeah, I mean, I you just line him up. We've been around for so long and my dad's always giving back to the community and sponsored golf tournaments and charitable things. So all these athletes and stars have just gravitated towards our brand for giving back to the communities.

That's it's been lovely. Thank you for mik and the tom and popping out from behind the alveuns. You probably what time is it there in Chicago?

It is five thirty in the evening.

Yeah, you have a love of orders to get to your sign.

Actually, I'm on the second hole of the golf course. I'm in a golf tournament.

You got how you hitting.

Them just the first first soul. We'll talk to you guys, but it's been awesome. And if I'm playing on getting Australia someday, I hope they can meet.

You gays yea to Adelaide so high. Yeah, we'd love to Joe. We've got some good good like we've got a big Italian community here, a lot of a lot of good old Italian migrants post war, same as what happened in the US. And we love our Italian food here, so we'll take you out from a good pie as you call them in the US.

All Right, I would love to do that, And it's so awesome that we're speaking. I'm so blessed that the Pope made it to our restaurant and we just look forward to serving them again someday. It'll be a probably a little more difficult now we'll have an entourage of security.

I'm sure, I think so. I think you might be right.

That was great, But if anyway can do it, it's a really Chicago because all the big names have been through there is you, Joe Arelio, the owner.

What a legend that was. That was just fantastic. How good Americans as people. It's like everyone in America did media training. They are Yeah, they just talked so well, so clearly, so passionately, just them a brilliant, brilliant chat. But oh this men, we've got to get to Chicago. Well can we be?

Chicago's a terrific city. I went there on part of our trek on our honeymoon. We went through Chicago, and I absolutely loved it there. It feels it's got an architecture that's reminiscent of New York, but Illinois is more of a big government style state, so it's it's kind of like it feels to me like a cleaner New York, my sort of really dumb down version of Chicago. But it's all it's just a massive It feels odd because, like as an Australian, you always have sort of programmed to think, okay, where's the ocean when it comes to a city in the middle part of America especially, and it's so disoriented and you think, well, it's nowhere. But Chicago almost feels relatable. Yet it's not because of the lake. The lake is so big it feels like you're standing in a western suburb of Adelaide as you look out at it it's so vast and so expansive, it somehow feels more relatable, but it's not. It's a giant Inland Lake. It's a beautiful city.

I really like it. Now I need to go back.

Five double A news is coming up, Breaking It eight next.

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Eight minutes after eight breaking' eight In just a moment, koh, he's not too far away and when to be chatting with one of the cinematographers who worked on David Attenborough's new massive documentary simply called Ocean. His underwater cinematography would be quite a remarkable job. Tom Park, an Australian, will join us after eight thirty Today. We spoke about forty minutes ago about the Liberals in Australia installing Susan Lee as the new leader of the party. Of course, they got smashed at the federal election. A poll which suggests that the Liberal brand is on the nose in Australia. Well they can take some heart because there are politicians and movements around the country, around the world that are significantly less popular. You often hear remarkable opinion polls the other way in sort of approval ratings. Approval ratings sort of like in countries run by a desk spot. You know, Vladimir Putin will have a ninety percent approval rating, or Sam Sam Hussein Kim Jong un tends to poll.

Really well, very popular. Kim Well.

Dina Blavat, who's the president of Peru's got a bit of an issue IPSOS. We have IPSOS poles here in Australia. IPSOS released a pile a couple of days ago. She's lost a point on approval rating. She's lost a point. That's not a big drop. No, it's not a big drop. It is a big drop though, when you're only on three. Her approval rating is two percent right now, the disapproval rating is ninety four percent, So I presume people that are undecided are on four percent at the moment. That doesn't sound like Dina Boulevarte is really one over the hearts and minds of the Peruvian people at this point.

Now, if you're tapping in here in a Tommy reen and having a punt, I'd say get on the other guy in Peru. I probably close the market. It's time for breaking it up. Well, we brought you the story yesterday about this terrible situation with Abbey Field House where for about fifteen years now, eight residents, all of whom people are living with disabilities, have been living happily together and what's essentially a sharehouse and Bile reports it's the happiest sharehouse in Australia. Well due to a really complicated least problem involving the owners of the property, and I know the Marian Council has been working hard behind the scenes to try to find a solution. They've been unsuccessful though, because at the moment as things currently stand, it looks like the house is going to be sold, which means that the eight people have been living there together happily for a decade and a half are going to have to find another place to live. We have one of the residents joining us now and he's a guy who a lot of footy fans will know because he's one of the water Boys but the Crows, and if you follow so any Crow social media, you know an ex guest. Well, that's right, it's Jake Millbank and he's joined too by his dad, Tony. Tony Millbank. Jake, good morning. We wanted to start by asking you mate living at abbey Field House. It sounds like a really nice house.

Yes it is.

You've been there for how long is it now? Mate? Fifteen years?

Oh, twelve years?

Mate twelve years? Twelve years? And tell us a bit about it. You all live together. You will do your own cooking and everything.

Yes, I do cooking and everything here, two parties here and I like going out to do things.

Yeah yeah. And you also do your job with the Crows as well, yes, I do. How how many days a week do you have to get involved with the footy stuff? Is that a big job for you?

Yes? Three days?

Three days? Wow? Will Jacob? What would be the worst part about having to move?

No, I'm just not going to happen.

I've got to say my John want in your main catauts are here in it. It's not going to happen. Is that Marinicands don't don't do it.

It's not fair for others.

M m. How How how stressful has it been for you?

Threadful for me? And it's stressful for me.

I get I get it, I get it, Procordia and.

I sat understandable that and and your friends are probably all feeling the same pressure too.

Yeah, what it is for for me and my star.

Yeah, and I'm just saying no, no way, no way. But but Marion Kansas selling no, Yeah, it's not fair for others.

Is that I have we need we need to save my house? Well, what only any of that t.

Yeah, I hate it.

Yeah, I understand that about it.

I think of it.

Well, Jake, stay on the line because we actually we spoke yesterday to the Premier's office because we took the view that as I said, this sounds like a bit of a complicated situation, but you know, government's fixed problems all the time, and part of the reason that we did speak to the Premier's office was to see if there's a way, even though by our reading of it, none of this is a specific state government issue. But we do have Peter mal Anawskis on the line. Premier would have heard Jake just now. Obviously it's a hugely emotional time for him and his fellow tenants. Do you think there's a potential fit here?

Short answer is yes. Pembo and I sort of briefing on this yesterday when we started to see the news that have come to the fore. I think for a bit of accuracy from Saint Pangelo, and there was a petition I think to the Council that was also furnished to the Parliament. So and then of course you guys reached out as well. But long story short, I think there is the capacity for the state government to intervene here and stop the sale process from going ahead. And because the land itself has a community title over the top of it, for the Marian Council to realize any value out of it, they would have to sort of revoke the way that the land is currently categorized, and that requires state government approval, like we can intervene and stop that from occurring. So I am very pleased to report to Jake and the other residents at Abbeyfield that we are going to intervene here and stop this sale from going ahead. But more than that, I think what we want to do is we do want to work collaboratively with Abbeyfield and the Marian Council, because beyond what I just explained, which gives us an entrader intervening, there are complexities here and what I've asked up and of Human Services, I've asked to see of the department to put together a working group to see if we can't find a solution in short time, because while we're going to stop this sale, what I want to be able to do is provide long term certainty to those residents so they know that they can continue to play car place home, which is what matters to anybody in any set of circumstances, let alone if you're if you're if you're diagnosed with an intellecial disability.

Yeah. Yeah. We also have the mayor that that is excellent news. Premiere. We have the mayor of Marian on because we want to try to cross all the t's and dottle the eyes on this because, as we said, it has been complicated in the way this lease works. I wouldn't pretend to understand it. But Chris Hannah's the mayor of Marion, Man, what's your take on all this? You hear what the premierge just said. This sounds like it is now fixable. Yes, well, what.

Is the problem to fix? Is the question? The only part of your intro that I disagreed with is that a sale means that these residents have to move out. That was never the case, It isn't the case, it won't be the case, and in fact we've already worked out something with the Housing Trust, whereby they've said that they are happy. I mean this might be overruled by the Premier now, but they're happy for a sale to a disability focused accommodation provider, which is what Marian Councils proposed all along, and for the Housing Trust to maintain a charge on the property just as they have with Marin Counsel at the moment that would apply to a new purchaser and that would mean that the continuation of accommodation and care would be guaranteed. So there was never a problem in the first place, and the Housing Trust has been really good in cooperating with us. There is no threat to the residents. They're moving out and they has been so that's the answer.

Well, the Advertiser reported now the own of Marian Council wants to sell the land, believing that will fix an ongoing dispute between the residence families and disability housing provider. Abbey Field Australia, which leases and manages the property, had all the parents saying that a sale would leave the residents unprotected with no guarantee of long term stability.

False, completely false. So it never has been true. It never has been true. It's not the proposal back to the original.

Sorry, I mean it sounds like we're arguing about history.

Now, well we are that it's recent history. It has to go back to the Marrying Council resolution which was always to put the primary motivation the care of the residence. And it's nothing. It's not financial, it's not anything else. It's just that Marian Council is not the best owner of a house where a group of people with disabilities reside. But that's not our core business. We don't have a single worker that's a specialist in disability shoes, So why not give it to a housing provider with experience in the disability sector. And as I said, the Housing Trust has put in writing they are willing to take on a new, better provider in place of Marian Counsel and yet guarantee the continuation of accommodation. So you know what I mean, there is no threat.

But all the parents don't seem to have bought that reassurance.

And well they might have been listening to the wrong people. I don't know, but Marying Counsel has met with them personally. We've had an extensive consultation process where the truth of the matter has been spelled out. But people have been whipping the parents and others into a frenzy about this when in fact, there was never a threat to the continuing accommodation of these people. And I'm actually upset about the fact that vulnerable people have been roped into this and given a heightened anxiety when there was never any call for it whatsoever.

I think you can filew this one under all's well, that ends well because they were upset. I don't know what the communication.

I know they were. Isn't it terrible? I mean, don't you think it would be terrible to upset a group of people like that when there was no good cause?

Yeah, Franklin, I'm more upset that they are upset than you're upset, Mayor, with all due respect, Oh but that's.

What I'm saying. I am upset that they have been upset for no good cause, because there is no threat to continuing accommodation and there hasn't been. Well, it's a shocking thing. It's been such a beat up. It's been really unfair on a lot of the families. Concerned we might we.

Might wrap it up. We thank you for your time. Mare. We particularly think the premiere for getting involved as well, because it sounds like this whole thing had taken on one way. It's no one's moving. Can I ask Jake's dad, Tony, are you are you still on the line, Tony, because I am.

Yeah, I'm quite surprised with what mayor had So this is the first time ever heard anything about the House and Trust And as you can imagine, I've been intimately involved in the whole thing from the beginning.

Yeah, I'm sure you have been, mate, And yeah, it sounds like this this process has been wanting. But I think that on account of getting it kicked into a more senior tier of government, it sounds like there's a fixed there, does it not?

It does indeed, And for your your actions and Frank Van Gallo's actions, I think this is this would never have we have would never have got to the situation of being involved with the Premiere of the State of South Australia if we the parents had not agitated and in the manner we did.

Yeah, yeah, good on you, Tony and Jake Millbank Premier and the Mayor of Marion. Thanks for what was a pretty free wheeling, breaking that got a really good result. The bottom line is this for everyone who lives there, you're not moving. You've just heard it from the premiere of the state and you've just heard it from the mayor of the council. That is ironclad guaranteed, no one's moving. That's good news. Correct how we got here, rocky road. But let's take a break. Twenty one after right. David Kosh will be on the program in just a moment. Traffic First, he experienced the smooth, rich flavor of macafe today, expertly crafted by trained barista, just the way you like it.

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Weeks A long time in football, as they say.

A long time.

To you.

Just reflecting on that seven days since we I think we spoke on the day that Willie Rioli sanction was changed, but it hadn't been changed at the point at which we were talking. That came a little bit later. It might have him come the morning after. We've obviously had the showdown as well. I'm not sure what you'd like to least talk about.

Let's start with.

But with the showdown, congratulations, great win, but also what a cracking game?

Again, a support supporter, was it?

Oh disappointing, so I said to the players in the change room after, incredibly disappointed, but proud the way you guys played, And I thought a spirit that was played in It was just a cracking game, you know. And my Apple watcher was going berserk. I'd done a big walk that morning around around Port Adelaide, around Becon head Bridge to the markets and stuff heart rate of seventy five for the two hours during the game it was ninety two or above and I was sitting down.

It was an unbelievable game. Game went for another thirty seconds, you would have won it. I reckon it. Just did I have a feeling about it?

Yeah? Yeah, it's a big momentum to Switches. But congratulations to boat tnt Koshi.

The AFL Andrew Dillon spoke in the last twenty four hours about their handing of the Willy Reoli situation last week, which in the first instance they didn't sanction him for comments on social media, and they seemed from the outside to respond to criticisms with that decision by then saying well, hang on he said other things on the field, maybe we will give him a week. They ticked off on it, though they said they're happy with how they went through that process. What's your assessment of how the AFL handled the Willy Reoli situation.

Look, I think we've been pretty open, particularly going into the Doug Nichols around and Indigenous around for the next two weeks. It's a lot deeper issue. It's an issue and I think I said on the program last week, and it's sort of sparked the discussion that's now industry wide on whether we really do have a handle on the cultural issues and abuse our Indigenous players constantly get not only on field in their private lives, but wider community. And you know, if we are going to take a leadership role on this as an industry, which we should, I think, then we have to think a bit harder and a bit deeper about it. And for example, not only clubs themselves, but supporters of clubs and the media on how it's report. And I think I said said last week, and Willie was was was really almost pilloried in the media for what he'd done, and you know, he apologized for it, but but at no time did anyone say, well, what caused this, what sparked this reaction? The reaction was wrong. And don't don't get me wrong on this, I totally agree with the sanction. You can't be sending private messages. But the deeper issue is is what causes those reactions from indigenous players, And you know it's there. There are different cultural circumstances, and I know traditional followers or old school football followers would say just an excuse, stop your winging all that sort of stuff, But I think it's a deeper issue that need.

To look at.

It's just to be clear that those antagonizing elements, shall we say, are you saying that's the build up, things like comments from fans on social media, or are you saying there was something in the game that led to that, a physical altercation that caused Willy to make.

The post, something happened in the game, something on field comments that that were Now you know, people say footballers are so soft that these days and just just run with it, accept it like the old days. But you know, Indigenous players throughout their whole life of face that sort of casual.

Abuse, racism on the field and the week prior, well.

Well it was if you're like cultural disrespect during the game, referring to where he'd come from, community have it's where he came from and things like that. So it's that's that's the thing. And we've talked about this during during the week since since we spoke this time last week more publicly, and Chris Davies has been really eloquent on it, saying that as an industry, well, we have to be aware of that. And you know that's as I said, no reason to excuse sending a private message after the game, but an understanding of the build up and the frustration, and that's where the reactions come from.

Well, I agree with you, Cosh, and I reckon. We coun't of it both ways. We can't. And I've always used the two thousand and four port side as the sort of gold standard when it comes to the contribution made by indigenous footballers. You take Wangon and Pickett and Berg going out of that team and you don't win the flag. We can't and talk about the richness that they bring to the game. And then if ever there's any cultural issues that emerge, as you say, harden up, we can't have it both ways as supporters.

No no, and I think society has moved on and we've we've got to have a better understanding. And for example tomorrow at the club where we're doing a cultural awareness program for any media that wants to come just to understand the Indigenous culture and what it means to them and lines we shouldn't cross.

It.

We do it as as a staff in the club and we also do it for a lot of our corporate partners as well who have a lot of Indigenous staff. And it's it's it's a really impressive program to go through it and really makes it think about it.

Yeah, and what's the downside? There isn't one. There's just something expands your horizons a bit. Good to talk. David Competer, market economic Director and the el heffe of the Port Adeli Football Club.

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Seven minutes to nine eight double two to three double O double O as our Ambi contextus on zero before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five as well. It's been a cool start of the morning, but it has warmed up in a serious way. It's picked up five point six degrees since we came on air this morning at six o'clock. It's now thirteen point six outside, heading for another very pleasant may sort of a day.

Hey, a lot of our listeners are picking up on Jername's used this word far too often explosive. However, a lot of our listeners regard the comments that David Kosh just made in response to your questions will as quite explosive about the Rioally situation, because it seemed, on the face of it to be an assertion that there were actual words that could be rightly described as vilification, as racial vilification directed towards Willie Rioli. Now, you would presume, in the context of the threat that he made, which he's admitted to, towards the Bulldog's player, it invites questions which will probably be pursued today that would have to be directed to the Western Bulldogs. Did your player racially abuse him?

Well to this point, having listened to what Chris Davey said, I was now it turns out laboring under the idea that Willy was responding to what had been a long period of being vilified by people and his Instagram had happened the week prior and so forth, And you know, for want of a better term, he'd cracked. And I thought the point they'm making was, listen, you can't judge these guys. You can't judge Willy like you would another player who hasn't been subject to this. This guy's under stress all the time because of this stuff. But because he made it way more specific than that, he said.

Oh, I don't know, You've want to run the tape on what Coshi said again, because was he saying that he was abused and that because of all the racial stuff any form of abuse was the straw that breake the capital's back? Or was he No, he was he was saying that it was racial, wasn't he? Or culturally insensitive? Yeah? Well what does that mean though? Does that mean you say, oh, you know you well, I don't know, you're stacked on the pounds mate.

Well, now it invites a conversation about that, yeah, or if you teased him about past.

You know, fines or something like that. Is that.

It's changed my frame of reference for the whole debate because to this point, I thought when they were talking about the AFL industry needing to edge be educated, I thought they were talking to fans cautus need to be made it sounds more like internally there needs to be a conversation about things that get set on the field and how they can be interpreted.

But I mean that's a very different discussion. It feels like it's breathed new life in or as a news story.

That's the sense I get. Yeah, And that's certain sense how the Texters are getting a lot of feedback.

About christ Hannah as well. But I think we just let that go through because we just at no point did we criticize or denounce the Marian Council. And I think this is where the whole reason you have a segment like Breaking at eight, we have it for multiple reasons. You know, breaking news stories, campaigning stories. There's ways to campaign for a result. One is the Alan Jones style where you come on in and you tresh hand of the Marian councils, sect the lot of them. They don't know what they're doing. Well, you can do that and sometimes you can get a result. But equally you can just be polite and say, Okay, these are all great people. This house means the world to them. Can we just fix this? But getting the sort of rerun and I'm upset too, it didn't go down very well with our listeners. And I think, as one text said, you know, I know these disabled people are upset, but what about me? Not really the right reigin to pool. I don't think let's just just good that it's fixed. I only mention that because there's stack of techs about it.

And the takeout out of breaking eight is that all teas of government now agree that these people shouldn't move. Yeah, and the place, whether the result or not, no one's moving, and that's what matters at the end of that. I think that's the outcome everyone wanted. Dean in Powerful Gardens called in the program morning you don't great.

Look they're not telling the truth. What's really going on with this cold upwilling is in theation. Look, millions and millions of tons of unoxtimated fresh water falling off the polar cats right several weeks that finds its way up to this. It'll come to our short and get this upwelling. And the air above that upwelling is cold and dry. So therefore a front or a system will go across the top, and what normally produces rain won't because there's no convectivity taking place. The air is dry and this was probably happens quite a few times a month, and that becomes toxic, becomes still on toxic, and that's what's killing all the animals.

Yeah, thank you, Daniel.

There's something certainly going on with regard to the weather that's causing the algill bloom. The species of algal Qarnia michemotoid. I'm not sure if I've pronouncing it correctly, but that's the one that they're saying is leading to this massive kill off to marine life in South Australia that is now a global news story. It was odd that we're about to speak to Tom Park, an ocean cinematograph who's worked on this remarkable documentary that David attenber is bringing out called Ocean, that is about the importance of the oceans and the ecosystem. Couldn't be more poignant in South Australia, this part of the world. Tom Park will join us right after the break. Let's check traffic first, though. All thanks to the great people at mcafe experience the smooth, rich flavor of macafe today, expertly crafted by a trained barrista, just the way you like it.

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But it's denied. Really looking forward to this. As we've spoken about in the past. Ocean with David Attenbraugh is the latest in a remarkable series of documentaries about nature by the best to have ever done it. It is coming in June to be streamed on Disney Plus and Hulu. You can go to the you can go to the movies and see this, and I suspect that'll be the best way to do it because it does look unbelievable and a big part of the reason it looks the way it does is because of our next guest, Tom Park is an underwater cinematographer who worked on this remarkable documentary.

Tom, good morning to.

You, Good morning, Thanks for having me on.

Tom. We're excited to be talking to you, mate. What a I mean if you're into wildlife photography and cinematography, working with the David appro that that doesn't get any better than that does.

No, Honestly, it's the absolute pinnacle. And you know, it's been such an honor to with David, you know, who's been an icon online for as long as I can remember. And yeah, the privilege of my professional career is being being a small part of ocean, which just on your last point, it's actually in the cinemas now and I've seen it five or six times in the cinemas, and it is it still gets me every time it is under law.

The pictures are amazing just looking at I always wonder if these with the nature documentary one. Certainly when you're going to places where it's not you know, it's not like just being able to fly a drone up or or jump in the car and drive out into the wilderness.

This is under the water. Do you have to.

Tailor the documentary to the vision you're able to get or is there a sort of broad idea of the kind of stuff you want to shine a light on and you have to go and you know, into the depths of the ocean and find it.

It's I mean, typically speaking, it's a It is definitely a mixture of both. But in this one the team had a very clear objective and that comes through with the film. It's it's un like anything to the David has put out before. It really shines a light on some some of the things we're doing to this world, but also providing his greatest message of hope. So this one was very tailored to a specific objective and the parts of the film that I contributed to, you know, it was completely an unexpected event. The bits I shot were the great Barrier reefs unfortunately falling victims of the twenty twenty four global mass bleaching event, and then following that story for you know, a bit of a nearly a year and a half documenting that reef journey of change, of recovery, and you know, ref resilience was really that angle. But you know, that was a whole story that could have gone a couple different ways, and you know it even setting in the first place was completely unexpected.

Have you got a favorite shot in the movie? I do.

Unfortunately it's not fine.

I do.

There's this one beautiful scene of a soul of garden and I'm not going to spoil it. But when when you do see the film and you see the skull of gardens, things are about to get real. I mean it's stunning.

Pomp up some of your own work, too, Tom's your favorite shot you managed to secure?

Look, I mean, what I was shooting was quite sad. At for there's some beautifully devastating footage of like the coral bleaching scenes, you know, just fields of whites. But I think what I'm most proud of is really sticking to it and following that story for you know, fourteen to fifteen months through to that reef recovering, and there's beautiful footage at the end of this vibrant, healthy reef that you know, a year and a half ago was you know, by all accounts fallen collapse, And it just means a lot to see that reef, you know, come back like it has.

Tom and I. You're a Sydney boy originally, and I'll presume you still call Sidney home. But have you been have you been following or have you heard of the situation we've got here with our coastline in South Australia at the moment, with this massive algill bloom that's the size of kangaro Island, and we've had sharks, rays, all sorts of fish washing up dead. It's terrible.

I have I must admit I'm not up to speed on it, but I have seen a lot of stuff coming out, you know, of puses on your beach on your beach is dead, and just masses of your sponge gardens and sea life down there just covered. I have seen it and heard about it. I must admit, with all the pr around Ocean Going Going Wild, I have been a little off the grid for a couple of days. But no, it does sound truly, truly devastating and it's such a shock for the essay ocean lovers for sure.

M Well, we can't wait to see this in cinemas now at hoyts End Events Cinema's Ocean Tom Park, Australia's own Tom Park, working with a great Sir David Attenborough. Thanks to thanks for chatting with us make we loved.

It, no worries.

Is glad you enjoyed the film and get out there and see it.

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