Breakfast with David & Will - May 13th 2025

Published May 13, 2025, 1:02 AM

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Good morning to You're welcome to a Tuesday on five double a breakfast, the thirteenth of mates. Cool out there at the moment instead pants say eight point seven degrees. It's a cool start. Going to be a spectacular sort of a day, though. We'll speak to the weather bureau over the course of the first hour today. Tom rend will be in as well Phil Curry after seven thirty. Who's gonna be the new leader of the Liberals? I reckon Phil will have a pretty good read on that. After seven thirty. Today we've got a jury trial that I'm fascinated in the results of.

Before eight o'clock.

If you read the big thing from memory first five pages of the ties of this morning, that'll get your cross probably what you need to know for the jury, and you can participate in that a little bit later in the morning. Also, good mate, John Shaw from the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute Southern Illinois University is going to come on. It felt like it felt like a big shift overnight with regard to the United States and the trade war with China. A lot of it was wound back, but nothing substantially changed. So what do we read into that. What does it mean for Australia. Always love chatting with John Shaw. That's Straight thirty This morning. David Pebirthy, good morning to you.

Good morning, well, good morning listeners. Yeah, quite the backflip overnight from Washington. Do you call it a backflip? He is a backflip, isn't It's a back down because it's a back down.

Clearly they well, you know why, let's give them some credit. Maybe they've come to their senses. Yeah, exactly, that's a more positive way are putting.

It, because there's a lot of people in the US who are politically disengaged, not rabid Democrats, not rabid Republicans, who were just saying, look, I'm running a business. We can't get things, we need to keep operating, We're about to go bankrupt. There was a good case study on sixty minutes on Sunday night looking at how this little small family run business in Bondi that sells swimwear is caught up in all this going on. What's any of this got to do with us? The best? And I think that Trump, who is at the end of the day, a business man, has gone yeah, okay, let's go back to the drawing board.

The two big losers from that the move overnight to cut huge amount of the tariffs between the United States and China, and we'll get into the details for you after seven o'clock this morning. But the two bigly the best take I read. The people who thought Donald Trump was going to march the American economy off a cliff and into the abyss lost last night. He's clearly not going to The other people lost. Those who thought Donald Trump was going to reorder the international way in which we do trade in such a way that reorented manufacturing in the United States and fundamentally shifted how things happened in the world, they lost as well.

Well, there's a recognition back to where we are, where we were. You can't take America back to nineteen fifty and say we're making all the white goods, we're making all the shirts, the T shirts, we're making all the shoelaces, we're assembling every powerboard inside every laptop. Like no, like you know seem going to do that. Then you're going to you know, usher in your own I say, like it's one of those things that has actually been done and not be undone.

Yeah, yeah, and it is what I always find I appreciate that when it gets to elections, you start talking about economics in terms of how it affects. It affects small groups of individuals because they're the people who swing elections. And for a lot of people, US prosperity wasn't filtering through to them. That's why they voted for Donald Trump. And that's fair enough. That happens in elections all the time. But if you look at the big picture stuff, but I always find out America that the idea this of America in decay, I was your by what metric? So their economy is growing faster than China. You look at the top ten biggest companies in the world, they're all American and they've all been they've all risen to prominence in the last twenty five thirty years. They're all software and engineering. All the development and invention in those spaces is coming out of the United States. Like it's transitioned from being the manufacturing power in World War two to the high tech, AI, software and internet power of twenty twenty five.

But you look at a city like Phoenix that's now the fourth biggest city in the US. It has just achieved remarkable growth. But he's so well planned, the infrastructures extraordinary. It's a really good place to live. It's like a miracle. It's in the desert, you know. That's that's a testament to the economic power and creative genius of America that they've built this megapolis in the middle of a desert where one hundred years ago there were tumbleweeds. There's no reason of a city there. The only reason it exists is money. But I mean, it's a bit like former labor center to Kim car was running around saying for a long time, well, you know, the Liberals hate the car industry. They had Australian workers and they're going to kill it. So but he was an outlier in the ALP because he was from the far left of the party. He had a view that with public money you could restart the car industry in Australia. Now you could, you could if you put unlimited public money into it. But the thing that you would have to subsidize is wages. Because the only way, in an economic sense, the Elizabeth car plant could continue in perpetuity in a competitive fashion against carmakers in Thailand or along the Mexican border or against all the new Sung Yun's and all the ones coming out of China. Is if you paid people one dollar an hour. Now, that's the key issue if Australians and Americans, if people in Detroit are prepared to go or what do they pay them in China? What do they pay them in Tijuana? I mean, actually Tijuana is a bad example because if Mexico struggles against China because wages are higher in Mexico and the country's got unions, But how do you go back to that world? You only do it if you say to people, instead of earning one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year, you're now going to earn thirty thousand dollars a year. Who's going to do that? Yeah, who's signing up for that?

I do this whole this development to makes me raise the question, and this is unanswerable at the moment, But I wonder if the one hundred and what did Trump say it was? It was one hundred and niney old countries that he wants to negotiate deals with. What does Australia rank at the moment? Because the UK got a deal, China's there it's clearly not doing in alphabetically. But I was thinking that too driving in this morning.

How crap is it that, like our closest ally is going, oh, we'd better get things back on track with China. Yeah, we're still coughing it reason.

I reckon, and I've got sympathy for the ob and easy government here. I don't know if there's anything that actually exists that we can offer them that we would ever give up that would look, we don't have anything to bargain with. They already enjoy a trade surplus with us, so this is not the kind of thing we can go. Listen, let's let's let's start buying.

A few more.

You know, micro chips from the United States or Apple computers for all our.

Stuff to try and redress the trade in pals. We can't do that. We're already there.

The only things that that they've raised issue with that we could offer ditching the pharmaceutical benefit scheme.

We're tearing up our biosecurity laws.

That's right saying, but we're not really that worried about bringing disease into the country with me non negotiables. I just reckon our trade people must get over there. Going, we've got nothing to offer you. I think that's why we were on the back burner at the moment, because but we shouldn't.

We shouldn't. We should just say, listen, what are you complaining about? You guys? I mean you can't say it to them because it's not diplomatic. But they're just sucks and they're stupid. They like, we buy way more stuff from them than they buy from ours. End of story. Like that should be the Don Farrell should have the world's easiest conversation. I think that's why it's hard hard, because they go, why is this? Why is this not happening? I mean, can you imagine having campaign was one thing, the one part of their response to Trump, which was really strong labors, and I reckon it helped them big time at the election the moment Trump went nuts with Independence Day a Butler, we're out there on the front foot, going the pharmaceutical benefit scheme is not up for negotiation. This is bedrock policy in this country, cheap medicine for poor people. And I reckon that actually, if you could disentangle it, that was probably a big thing for alban Easy and a really bad thing for DUTSA because it was like DUTs was like, well where exactly what he said? But Labour's got that sense of ownership over cheap and free health access. It's there. It's there. One would by the length of straight and the timing of it. But yeah, I mean imagine a world now where they go, yeah, all right, we'll change it.

No, it's just never happening. These things are never ever, ever, ever going to be on the table anyway. That's happening in the world. Was a big event over the last twenty four hours. There's lots else going on. We're going to jump into the news headlines on the other side of the break.

David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double a breakfast.

It's twenty Halter sixt news headlines. The Prime Minister's got a trip in his near future. Is off to Rhyme to attend the Pope's inauguration Mass. He'll leave Australia tomorrow to fly to Jakarta before landing in Rome on Sunday to meet with world leaders at the papal service in Vatican City.

He's going to Indonesia first, is he Jakarta way? Yeah?

Yeah, tomorrow to Jakarta then on his way because he made the commitment, didn't need to Indonesia.

That would be his first visit. One of if he's going to ask him about the Russia stuff, because he didn't handle that very well during the election. No, what's the go do we have? Are we going to have a permanent Russian presence a short swim from Dalen Away?

If the Indonesians play this right, they're gonna end up with a rugby lea team. A forty three year old from Peterborough is the latest road fatality in South Australia.

This is a sad story.

The man died in a single car roll over at Cartower near Jamestown yesterday. The road toll is now thirty for twenty twenty five. Edge it is have developed a neuromorphic device that can process information like a human brain. Neuromorphic sounds like sci fi movie, doesn't it. The system can detect movement and store memories without the need for an external computer. R MIT Professor sumk Walia says the technology is a step forward in the future of automation.

What we are trying to do with this chip is mimicing the analog nature of human vision and able to detect process and storm events and images in real time, enabling autonomous decisions.

That sounds a bit like the current episode of what's it called Black Mirror the Charlie Brookers show. Have you have you seen this episode yet? And I watched about the first with the brain tumor. Yes, that was the first episode of the series, wasn't it. So the plot for this completely out there cutting edge program Charlie brook as a total genius. It's about the person. How would you describe the show? It's all like sci fi satire, you know what it's like for our older listeners.

It's a bit like the Twilight Zone, except it's all about futuristic technologies. They're all standalone episodes that, yeah, they say they've sort of worn about the future.

So this person has an inoperable brain tumor, and there's a company called Rivermind that makes artificial brains. But they're like a streaming service. You're connect to the level that you subscribe, you get a new brain that's not even so much implanted. It's basically like an app. So you download this new brain. But the plot is that the person has spent all their money getting the streaming brain and they can't afford to upgrade the premium, which means that every three minutes they have to watch ads in their head. Actually, like, how genius is that? That was?

That was one of the most depressing hours of television I've ever watched in my life.

That episode. That was absolutely awful.

The whole thing is kind of plausible, though, Well that's the whole That's what the conceit of Black Mirror is, that this stuff could happen. They record that. Charlie Brooker apparently hates Netflix, he hates subscription models. He thinks they are evil, and that's what that story is about. That's what that story is. You know, it's an extreme version of it, But oh my god.

I don't know it. Like I'm using this HAP at the moment called Hazier HGJA to organize school soccer as team manager. Dead say. I spent so long yesterday stuffing around with this thing. But now the Hazer people it was a lovely little free app. Now, if you don't subscribe to premium, every time you're trying to work out whether you're playing at Belvy Heights or Buella Park on Saturday, they have to watch a damn ad. So You're like, you're pull over in the car, going where's the ad? Where are we playing? And then an ad for Candy Crush come down? Yeah, Premium, then you'll be on Hazer Lux after that. I don't want to be on Hazer Lucks. I'm actually going to contact the parents, go have we got this system? It's called texting each other? Why don't we do that? Why don't we do that? Because I don't want the bloody Hazer app h that's the preface.

There's something evil about subscription models because you've become addicted to the service and they get you on and a good deal, and it gradually gets worse and more.

Then you forget to care. You're not using it anymore. Exactly, I want to pay a dollar ninety nine a month before.

Honestly, if you're in a good mood, don't watch that episode because it'll just bring you down. Israeli American hostage Eiden Alexander has been reunited with his family in Israel after five hundred and eighty four days held hostage by Hamas. The twenty one year old so what twenty one was probably nineteen when captured, was captured during the October seven attacks. The US President has sent his congratulations having helped broker Eden's release. The weather today in Adelaide, it's going to be spectacular. I think eight point two right now, so cool, but twenty four and sunny at the maximum today. It'll drop away a bit over the next few days and there's maybe a chance of a drizzle tomorrow, up to one mill of rain, twenty one dry on Thursday and twenty Friday twenty and up to two meals of rain probably our best chance Saturday nineteen and a meal and then cool on the Sunday and Monday, but no chance of rain. Low of six on Sunday and Monday morning. Tops are just eighteen and nineteen, So that's may starting to behave like we're getting into window.

Check out the moon if you haven't already as well, folks, you can tell it's a month since Teaster. Absolute whopper. I can't see it from my advantage point. I thought it was on the western side. Okay, yeah, all right, sorry, I looked out, looked over the head and moved around a bit since then, bad do we move around? I'm not sure.

Tom Reren's moved into the five double a breakfast studio to make ruper Retto's Agustina. It's a issue having a stock clearance sale on now nail's worth in Morson Lakes. Morning are you ready?

Morning?

Will morning David? Get a bit of the water boys on the whole of the moon. Get that sign, good song whine, Oh yeah it is a good song, isn't it. Fellas a massive player of the sport and he's not lost to the sport entirely, but Verrat College announced his Test retirement overnight. So wonderful player and he scored his most recent Test century. He's stepping down from Test cricket. It was in Perth in the recent series against Australia. This was how he did if those have forgotten about it.

Sweeps sweeps hard were to be done in the field, diving effort one hundred for different coli.

The King continues his love.

Affair of batting in Australia, but now he understands, yes we're it's another time you've heard you your seventh in Australia.

You're nine against Australia.

The greats here at Cooling, So I think we sort of hold a special place for players that perform well against the best in Australia, you know, historically the best and you heard those numbers. He always played better against Australia.

And look amazing, such a great cricketer and it's so good for the sport.

He's combative as well. He plays like sort of Australians have always played.

I liked Harsha Boglo once said about him that he sort of represents how the changing way when India sees itself in the world. That seems a reflection of India where they were very mild mannered and quiet and almost timid, almost timid, that's almost subservient in a colonial sense. Yes, And Verat Coley came on the crest of this. Actually, you know what, We're an emerging superpower and Verrat started carrying himself like that out there and they are a superpower and cricket and he I think that's why Australian fans sort of loved to hate him.

Because he respects thinking is oh. I loved it. I loved how he would trash talkers, thrown down the stumps and scowl at people.

You know, and you're right, I mean, now you know, I pl that's going to return this week. It could threaten the you know, just on a broader picture of the international window, the Test Championship and the IPL. If that's what they want to do Indian cricket, that's what they'll do.

That's what they do. That was hisast Test. That was his last Test century, so more than ninety five, and it didn't get any in the other Test he did it.

He ended up with thirty Test tons. First Indian captain, I think importantly to win a Test series in Australia one hundred and twenty three tests, hundred and thirty runs, average just under forty seven. I mean his record finnally enough. He's better in one day cricket, arguably the best batter of all time in one day cricket. He's had fifty one centuries there and average is almost fifty eight. It's amazing that the average is better in one day cricket than Test cricket.

But he's only thirty six. So what's he doing now? Play IPL for the next six years and earned about four billion dollars a year.

Yeah, and he'll plays still a lot of one day cricket for India. He'll keep going another world net worth.

Well, I was going to say, there's his Networth and do you reckon Verakkoli pays for a meal when he goes out to dinner.

India anywhere zero charts. Did you do an ad for tic TACs in India? Yea, and they would pay him just so many millions.

He's had an international, truly international influence here in Australia. But even the great US pre isn't it has got to you know, really has taken some recognition of him over time.

Where your people cheer on some of the world's greatest cricket players.

From suit Chin ten, Dolker two Vierau colleague.

Listen, idiot, he didn't know they've just gone Yes, Donald, suit Ching Tin Doki seems like a Chinese pincorn.

Donald, I just had to play that suits it now Donald, it's Sachin. But yeah, look, so the end of an era. To some degree, there are those athletes that you love to hate and but you wildly respect them, like you want to beat them, but you'd love to have them on your team. He's in that.

He might be the captain of that team.

I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally good stuff. Ready, good on your boys, Tom Rin. Thanks to the great people. Agastine meant to be. She to make room for Reno's. They're having a stock clearance sale. It's on now at Nailsworth and Morson Lakes. We're gonna take a quick break. Lots of great texts coming here on zero four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. You can call in and have you say too on eight double two to three, double oh double. We'll be back with more in just a moment.

David Pemberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double a breakfast.

Twenty five minutes and seven Police and weather coming up this half hour. Jade Robert is out in the road for us covering all the big local stories. We're checking with her imminently. Let's have a look at the text line first though, zero.

Be four eight, zero eight to thirteen. At ninety five, David Albert and says, watch how Trump will spin starting a trade war with China before surrendering the pressure as a win. Thanks for that, Dave. One. He's saying that a sheer of Gangoli is better than Viera from Mark, Prince of Calcutta. Yeah that's right. What's Calcutta now, col Carter? Is it cold Carter?

Yeah?

I think it is. You thought, you're right. Change all the city names, didn't they because so what's the oh the big one Deli was called New Delhi for a long time, that's right. So they de anglicized all the names. Didn't name Bombay it became Mumbai. That's right. One here from Peter and Marston David will I think the Mother's Day sandfil should be excluded from the round. A crowd of one thousand and nine and no longer is absurd. How many do you normally get it? Knowing it's a lot of cars. Mother's Day is a tough day for footy. I mean it's tough for the A yeah as well, Yeah it is, and a lot of people just say I'm not going well. I would have liked to have gone to Sturt North, but we arranged to have an early lunch with my wife and then had to see my mum. Dinner wasn't going to work, so we said we'll see in the afternoon.

The only thing I would say back to that, as I argue against myself, is the football culture at Australia has a weird obsession with wanting to maximize crowds above all else.

Yeah, it's as opposed to the integrity of the fixture, the fairness of the fixture, the predictability of it. The entire things build around maximizing the number, which commercially is makes sense. But I'm what was intrigued how much US fans talk about it. What do you care? Yeah, well you careful atmosphere, You care for atmosphere. I think she's one of the reasons. What was such a good showdown on Saturday. It was a huge crown, one of the highest ever for a fifty three thousand. Yeah, it was absolutely packed, which is capacity? Yeah, yeah, well I think they're about fifty or sixty people off being officially full. Where they go, Yeah, I don't know, it's probably only ill.

Let's check it with Jay Robert, who's out in the road for us. They're morting Jay, good morning to you.

Good morning guys. And it is an absolutely beautiful morning out here. It's very very chilly at saying it's about eight degrees on my phone, but if you're out walking, the big full moon's still out. It's an absolutely gorgeous morning to be out and about. But on the morning the menu today, we're going to be talking about a new machine that's aiming to combat smuggling prohibited items into jails here in essay. So it's the first of its kind body scan technology. It's going to be introduced in an attempt to reduce our growing number of illicit items being smuggled into our jails. So numbers crunched by the Department of Correctional Services have revealed a sixty six percent increase of contraband items discovered across all state prisons in just the last year. So items seized in the year twenty two to twenty three were nine hundred and fifty seven. That's gone up to one thousand, five hundred and ninety. So the most common items seized with drugs and drug related paraphernalia, followed by tobacco products and equipment, tattooing equipment that's an interesting one, homemade weapons, electronic devices including phones and sims, and also homemade brewis, and other items that could pose as a security risk like toothpicks or paper clips. So the top five prisons where contraband was found were Yatler Labor Prison, followed by Adelaide Women's Prison, then Kiddel Training Center, Mobiling Prison, and also poured a gust To prison.

So this new technology. If you've been through the.

Airport recently through the security there, you might have gone through that new full body scan. It looks very similar to that. Now the first one has been installed into the Adelaide Women's prison. So the scan, it's been put in a room. You stand with your arms and your legs apart, and it analyzes the prisoner's full body in just a matter of seconds. And then in a neighboring room, a highly trained corrections officer she'll view the images which reveal any items that the prisoner has tried to stash in or on her. So the machine was installed last August and already it's busted a woman attempting to smuggle a white powder substance inside a balloon hidden.

In her brass or. It picked that up pretty quick.

So Corrections Minister Emily Burke, she says, the strip search, it can be very confronting process, but the scan minimizes that trauma. Guys, I was strip searched at the airport a few weeks back. One of those machines didn't like the butt on my jeans, so I was taken Yeah, buttons on my jeans. So I was then taken to a small room, had to undo my jenes in front of three women and search. I actually felt like a prisoner after that. So these machines, watch out. They don't like buttons, so if you've got drugs or tattoo equipment on.

You, they'll get you.

Is that th real?

Ja?

They actually made you given?

Yeah?

I was.

I went through the machine and my buttons had probably six that I had to do up.

So I went through the machine. I reckon.

I had to stand there for maybe five to seven minutes while all these different people came over with that wand and searched me. And then they said, I'm sorry, we're still not liking what we see. You need to come over into this little room.

Now.

If you go through security, you'll.

See almost like a white box that's covered in all advertising. But inside that box is where they'll do their strip searches. So I had to undo my jenes. I had a trainee, which is always fun. It's like when you're at giving birth and they bring the student in. Can can the person stay and watch what's going on? So that was all going on, and yeah, I had to drop my dacks and have a strip search.

My god, that's extra.

Internally but yeah, people on pat down and more wands and then yeah, I had to rush run down to go catch my flight. And to this day there was only about two weeks ago. And I get they've got to cross their t's and dot their eyes. I understand that, but it's confronting and it really doesn't make you feel very nice at all.

I have to say, yeah, I amazed that it happened. You think they'd use their discretion a bit too, you can. I think it depends on the people and the person a bit sometimes. Yeah, you know, we went to the worst experience and this wasn't a hope. Jade is conceived considerably worse. But we over the summer were transitioning through Heathrow Apple in the UK. I don't know what's got into those Americans used to have the voice reputation as being you don't want to go through customs there. We didn't even we didn't even enter the country, which is literally traversing through. Had to go through secure and you have traveled with Rosies she's two years old, and they went through every bottle of everything we had and tipped it all out.

And it must have been the third airport we've been through and no one else had a problem with it, but in the UK it was an issue. Then they made her stand up by herself on a little box and they patted her down, but they wandered already, so they took her over where we were a couple of meters away. We were like, is this Like we've just were all being checked, Like what the hell were we a bit slept?

Was this serious? And there's this little kid standing there and they're doing a pat down. Seriously, we've been wandered by the way and been through the metal detector. You're joking. I had. I had an incident years ago when I still lived in Sydney. I was coming home and it was just ahead of mum's birthday and there's that great kitchen we're stare Peter's of Kensington. I bought and I got a gift wrapped. I bought her a cheese board. Unbeknown to me, in the handle of the wooden board it had like a four inch long pat knife. Oh paate, not not like a pointy one, not sharp, not serrated, nothing, just a little blunt pat knife for smearing your you know, meggie be onto your melbow taste and anyway, that it went through the scanner and this guy goes, you got a knife, sir, and I've got a whate He goes, you've got a knife. I went, no, I haven't got a knife. He said, did you pack your bags yourself? I said yes. He said what about this one that's wrapped? I said, oh, that's for my mum. I said, it's a it's a board for the kitchen. And he goes, well, there's a knife in there. I said, mate, it's a piece of wood. There's no knife. And he goes, are you telling me there's no knife? And I went, yes, I'm telling you there's no knife. And then he goes, okay, I have to open it, and he just start. He ripped all the paper off it and I'm going to my mum's tonight to give her that. It's a gift. Yeah, and then like he then he holds it up triumphantly and I oh, And it was like crocodile, dundee, that's not a knife. And I said, what am I going to do with that on the plane? Smear pat on the on the hostesses and take control of the flight. You could have smite it in their eyes. The guy was so angry though that me. I thought, I'm going to get dragged off, and you know, given what for by the Department of Homeland Security. You know, where's the discretion? Matt and secret's got a story. Morning you, Matte, Morning.

World, Morning David. Trusties are both well.

We're well man, We're good Matt. How are you going, mate?

Oh you live in the dream mate, on the way to work. Yeah, well, I was just listening to what you said before about the airy one, the security making you take it to order out. That happened to us, me and my missus Adelaide Airport. Me my older son's about twenty so here I reckon it's maybe a month two months old. And we went through and they made my misses. We literally picked my son up out the pram. They wandered him as well, obviously made my missus. And then they got the swap to test like inside the brand. They lift the little mattressy bit up out of it and tested under that as well. And so yeah, I'm not quite sure what that was yet twenty years ago, mate. So my missus sitting there dad like a little son, dangling her arms while they're doing a bond test on us. So yeah, yes, so it's not a new thing, because that just reminded me of you mentioned.

So, yeah, that's just crazy. They've tested it, like everything in your case matters. You said, they've tested everything else. Yeah, seems I told you the salt story. Did thank you back from Mexico? Yes, half, I have.

Total sympathy for customers in that case. When you had a bag of white powder, a large plastic bag with half a kilo of salt in a white powder and the guy looked at he said, sorry, said, he said, what's this? I said, oh that taking the kids just look at me going dead? Are you just genuinely stupid? I said, I said, worry, that's that's just salt. And I said I got it in Mexico. And Caate sends to men, he goes, that's not a very good explos don't worry. I got this in Mexico. But the guy was so nice. He goes, yeah, okay, he goes, I am going to have to check it. But he put this blue dye on it with a teep perpette. I think he made a little incision in the bag to test, poured out a sort of David Spears type amount of salt and then put the blue dye on it, and the blue eye didn't change color. They said, yet, let's help.

We had every time we went through airport with baby bottles, had baby powder in little bags and that never looks great to be honest. Now, Kathy sent us a texto, why are people sleeping outside the entertainment center this morning? Well, I confess I'm unfamiliar with Gracie Abrams, but Gracy Abrams is playing the entertainment center and of fans are truly die.

Hard, so she is. She's got a famous father, JJ.

Abrams, I am familiar with, who didn't laugh. Easton was heavily involved in the newest Star Wars films.

Everyone who likes Taylor Swift is familiar with her because she was the support for Taylor Swift on the year as to her, is that right? And she also I think she toured previously with Olivia Rodrigo, who's massive with that age bracket. But yeah, no, big, big deal, it's going to be packed house.

But people have been sleeping up for so we did a story on at seven last night they'd already been sleeping out. Yeah, and the concerts tonight.

Everyone wears yellow ribbons to her shows, and they also wear yellow nail polish, which explains last night I came, what was that sort of acetain smell? And so I said, it's ascetained out. I'm putting on yellow nail polish because I'm going to the Grace Gabram's concert tomorrow night. Not fair enough, that is, think that's the reason my generation to join the Kiss Army. It's good enough for that. This generation of wear yellow ribbons in their hair. Good on you care. I think we're worth your time.

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Today you David Pemberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double a breakfast nine, but.

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This text from Quinny says about twenty five years ago, on a trip back to Tazzy, my nana had two nail files confiscated, which was a good thing because she was over eighty years old and four feet tall.

That's the think about terrorists. You don't know how they might disguise themselves.

Well, sometimes they don't they just have a look about them. And Tim and Loberthal says, may have been your problem, David, he says, unsurprised you got profiled and held up at the airport.

Davo bin Pembo, Hey, look, you know I can't help I am the way God made me ye swarthy and unshaven. If that puts me in the make sure you swaddle that guy bracket save you.

Yeah, I think I think you might be overrepresented in the random, in the random totally.

Let's let's hit them with a bureau.

Daniel Sherwood Simpson joins us on this on this beautiful Tuesday morning, Daniel, good morning to you.

Good morning David and Will.

It seems like it's at.

Least the mornings are about to get a little bit cooler, but pretty reasonable day otherwise.

Yeah, so it's going to be pretty reasonable day today. It's going to be sunny, up to maximum of twenty four, so fairly warm. But we're going to see temperatures drop off a little bit tomorrow. We'll see him get down to twenty one and followed by a series of twenties. Things will drop down quite a bit in terms of the minimums on Sunday Monday. We've got two sixers there, so it could be a very cold start early in the morning. The other thing on the forecast is the next couple of days there's a chance of the drizzly share in the morning, but it's looking like Friday's probably the most likely day that we'll actually see.

Anything come out of that, So pretty clear for the weekend. You reckon, Daniel on the weekend.

We may see a little bit on Saturday, but it's yeah, going to be a spot or two here or there. Otherwise it should be pretty clear.

I'd say, good stuff, Daniel. Cherwan Simpson there from the Bureau of Meteorology.

All right, let's said two save bowl, so he comestabll Liam Bennett is on the line. Liam, you've caught up with a driver at Parafield Gardens.

Yeah, correct, Good morning team. Just after three am this morning, a member of the public call police after they spotted a car driving erradically on Semipore Road. Now, this witness followed the car and provided updates to police as it had several near misses and was not stopping for red lights. A Northern District patrols responded and caught up with that car on Salisbury Highway where they found the driver asleep in the front seat and police woke the driver and searched his car, where they located a mes amphetamine and other drug equipment. The driver of forty four year old man from Gulf View Heights was arrested and charged with trafficking a controlled drug driving under the.

Influence lawyer, We've just had an idea what we should do. We should have like a little darro Bingo segment with you guys from Sapole.

See if you can guess the offenses.

Yeah, driving unregistered driving world is qualified.

Yeah, there were a few different traffic events. Is included there and he was bailed and he'll be in caught in July.

Unbelievable. You can just pick it every time. Go you like you guys, when you pull these people over, you must just roll your eyes. You must. This should be like a pre filled out form to see.

Yeah.

Look, it's pretty frustrating. We seem to up into the same people all the time that can't get the message.

Yeah, no, for sure I will be able to do that. Eventually. We're drive them behind a year's swerving over the road and the aisle go.

Well, we know what this is going to be. Yeah, yeah, you don't have to come er that limp. Now you've also made it a rest with cars that were broken into overnight.

Yeah.

About three point thirty this morning, police were called to a home on Troutback Crescent, hunt Field Heights after reports that two people were acting suspiciously in the front yard, and while police were responding to the area, a second report was received about a person in the backyard of a nearby home on Malstetter Road. The Southern District Patrols searched the area with the assistance of police dog Duke, and they located a youth hiding in bushes nearby and during their search of the area, patrols discovered two cars parked on Melsetter Road had been broken into. A thirteen year old boy from hunt Field Heights was arrested and charged with being unlawfully on premises and two counts of illegal interference of a motor vehicle and he was bowed to appear in the Christie's Beach Youth Corps in June. And police are just asking that anyone living in this area who wakes to find their car had also been interfered with that they contact us on one three one, triple four.

Good stuff, Liam, Seeing you're comfortable, Liam Bennett there from sapop. Well, how often you hear that when an older person has come to grief, sometimes even these heartbreaking stories about someone who's been found deceased in their home, that no one had rung them, no one had contacted them for days, and in some cases they didn't even necessarily have somebody to contact them. Well, I reckon this is actually a really genuinely good story. And I say that with the caveat that obviously we've had a long standing commercial relationship with our great friends at care Alert, But as a journal I actually think this is just a story in its own right, and a genuinely interesting one. Because care Alert has obviously been leaders for a long time in SA and personal safety alarms. I've come up with this really natty and simple system for automated welfare calls, which basically means that you can pay less than thirty cents a day and you'll get And this is like I was winging before about how much I hate that all these sports apps and everything, you don't need an app for this. It's an old fashioned phone call that can be made not just the mobiles, but even to landlines because there's still a lot of older people who've got landlines. Anyway, we've got Darren Steel, who's the manager of care Alert on the line. Darren, this is such a geniusly simple idea.

I reckon, Yeah, morning boys, how are you good?

Thank you mate? Yeah good?

Yeah.

Look, I guess this idea sort of started back when COVID finished. We heard all those stories, as you said, Dave, that you know, particularly the elderly who were locked up in their homes were being you know, maybe not deliberately neglected, but they just weren't being contacted because they didn't have family around and you know, they were stuck in their homes. So this is where the idea started and your spot on it's just a welfare call. All it does is it rings the person a set day, set time. You can have it set up to seven days a week, two calls a day you can set and it just rings them. It plays a message to them, just checking in making sure they're okay. And all it does is ask them to press a button on their phone just to let us know that you're okay. And if they don't push that button, What it does is it we'll call them again fifteen minutes later, you know, just in case they're in the shower or on the toilet or whatever it might be. They might have missed the call. If they don't answer that second call, a designated emergency contact might be the neighbor, might be family, might be friends, whoever that might be. It lets them know that they haven't answered the call, and you know, to take action and check in make sure they're okay. And it's as simple as that.

It's a really cool idea because I mean it's a bit like the care thing because when we had one with Kate's mum, when we set it up, we put in our number of one of the neighbour's numbers, So the same sort of principle applies that you've got the contact person. But yeah, the call part of it, though, is I think just such a great added bonus from the services you already provide.

Yeah, that's right.

We wanted to make it as easy as possible. And everyone's got a phone, I'm sure they can answer it and push a button on there. But the other thing is we get a lot of feedback from people that do have personal alert systems and they've got a care alert system and they say, you know what, sometimes mum gets up in the morning, starts her daily routine and realize that she's actually forgotten to put the pendant on. And this is a way that if they have forgotten it, at least there's going to be contact made that you know, if they haven't worn it, then then there's still that access to communication with them.

It's a cool idea, Daron. If people want to find out more, they can just go to the care website Caroler dot com. You will catch up soon, Daz. Good chatting to your mate.

All the best, Yes, sounds good. Thanks boys, have good day, Darren.

It's one minute to seven five to blad News coming up. Our wrap of the morning stories Phil Curry after seven thirty, must listen to if you will have the inside word on who's going to be the next lead of the Federal Liberal Party. And then we've got a trial by jury on a topic we've already got text on this morning. It's a controversial one. Fascinated in what people's responses are going to be. That's before eight o'clock, seven o'clock news right now, back shortly.

David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double a breakfast tod after.

See it good morning too if you're joining us for the very first time. And what is a cool start to this Tuesday morning? It was at its coolest about a half hour ago, but hasn't changed much eight point one degrees outside of the city at the moment.

Beautiful dat on the way, as you.

Just said Matt Pantele's describe twenty four. If you're intrigued by what's going to happen in Canberra today, make sure you stay listening. Phil Coury after seven thirty will tell us the latest intel with regard to the LIBS leadership vote that's going to take place a little bit later today. We've got our own vote to conduct the jury on what is I think going to be one of the more controversial, controversial things we've talked about in quite some time. We'll get to that before eight o'clock. Remember two you can win a prize breaking it eight after eight o'clock and a little bit later in the morning. John Shaw, who we always loved chatting with, we found him in the lead up to the US presidential election. I think Director of the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute Southern Illinois University Illinois has been having a pretty good run recent eleven. They've got a pope, they've got former prodent.

Thinking about this yesterday, what about the old saying, you know, Joran and Beard is the Pope Polish? Yeah, well it's going to change now, doesn't the Pope is the pope from.

Chicago because the pope barrier for the White Sox doesn't quite have the same the alliteration of the pope Polish.

She really sort of won the day on that tem prased in it.

Yeah you would like that too, well, yeah, Mum and I have a strong view they should all be Polish. May you've as you turn, they should. That should be a customed.

Hey.

Let's get into the new headlines on this Tuesday morning, starting with the sad news out of Thailand. A South Australian man died on holiday while there. According to the local authorities, Anthony John Heathcote, forty one year old, was reported missing by his wife on the seventh of May in Pouquette. He was found three days later on the h of May, his body floating twenty meters from shore at Freedom Beach by the lifeguard during a routine morning patrol. Local police believe he was likely he was overwhelmed by a strong and unpredictable tide. He's family paying tribute yesterday.

So very deeply saddened at the loss of Anthony. He was a loving member of our family and his tragic losses deeply felt. He was a remarkable man, loving brother, uncle, son and father.

Sounds like he just went in for a dip, got caught in a rip the sea there up there.

It's not like swimming and gobs and Vincent, is it totally? It behaves really bizarrely in certain places. And I think, you know, you sort of things that Australian you're grown up swimming your whole life.

Yeah.

Yeah, when it's up somewhere you don't know and understand, really tragic things can happen. It sounds like what's happened in this case. Internationally, as we started the program talking about big, big development with the potential, well, we'll have ramifications for Australia and South Australia that there's been, in Donald Trump's own words, a total reset in trade terms between the US and China. Here is the American president.

The biggest thing that we're discussing is the opening up China, and they've agreed to do that, but it's going to take a while to paper it. You know, that's not the easiest thing to paper. But the biggest thing to me is the opening up would be I think it would be fantastic for our business. Is if we could go in and compete and compete with China. It would be a lot of jobs for China. It would be I think at a time where they can frankly use the jobs.

So they've been talking since they met in Switzerland over the weekend, but that talks have turned to something concrete now. Essentially they have canceled some tariffs altogether, suspended others for ninety days. So it's a bit hard to track because after Liberation Day in the United States they went tit for tat with tariffs, but this is essentially what happened. Additional US tariffs on Chinese imports, those that were imposed in this recent most recent standoff, will fall from one hundred and forty five percent to thirty percent. Well, the China side of this equation, their tariffs will fall from one hundred and twenty five percent to ten percent. So it's a huge reduction in the tariffs. Is it a ninety day sort of reprieve. Some of it is ninety days, some of it is permanent. China also halted and scrapped things like the countermeasures they undertook, things like banning rare earth minerals surmentering in the United States. They've said, well that's now, we're not doing that anymore.

Is there stuff that might actually inadvertently affect Australia through this, Because there was a piece in The Australian a few days ago that was a sort of massively upbeat story saying that the trade war between the US and China had created a virtual monopoly for Australian beef exporders in China. Is that now known? I think that yes, I would suggest that's not the case.

I mean, certainly there are still a ten percent tariff on US beef entering China, so it's a more competitive it's a better competitive balance for Australian beef producers. But no, it's not anything that likes the witch. When once you have what a China have it on original one hundred and twenty five percent O one hundred and twenty five percent, well we blow them out.

Of the water.

They're only going to be buying Australian beef, so it won't be quite as good as that is the betefit. The potential benefit for Australian exporters though, is that we just look reliable completely. People will go actually, look gil, it's credible with Australia because they're not going to do anything demented.

We have the perspective of which party is in a pretty consistent approach to trade. Yeah, it's to the credit of both the Labor and Liberal parties in this country. They sing from the same song sheet on this, so you know which is which is great news for Australian businesses, i e. Australian jobs.

Sheer markets bounce back, so you can you can peek at your super again. It's actually back pretty much at the Liberation Day level and it's going to be in the next day. So I imagine going to go even higher unless something thing comes out that no progress is being made. But it feels like the Trump administration now recognizes that the path to prosperity is not through.

Dismountling capitalism as we know it. Yet that's right, they got there.

In the end of the day, now, which is good, which is good in the United States, big big legal trial kicking off. You heard a bit of a five double A news a moment ago. The pay Diddy trial Sewn Diddy Combs has has begun. The list of accusations against team is long and varied and inputrid putred. Haven't listened to ABC legal analyst Rava Martin talking about the opening of the trial.

I knew the prosecution would come out swinging to try to make their case that this is a racketeering case, that this involves violence and involves corurgient it involves transporting of people across state lines for a sexual intercourse and for this kind of conduct that's been described in these freak offs. And we also knew that the defense would push back. Their claim is that this is all consensual sex involving adults. And they're also suggesting that this video that we're going to see of Cassie Ventur is not a video of violencing for in terms of sex trafficking, but rather it's domestic violence, and that domestic violence is not one of the charges that Sean Diddycoms is facing in this case.

There's a documentary series on Netflix about p Diddy, and my tip would be, don't watch it. Have you watched it? We watched the first episode and I just said, well, I don't want to know about this. It is just utterly, utterly repellent. And we just left it and haven't gone back and watched any more of it. You know, it's not nice wine down television at the end of the day on the couch. No, it doesn't sound like the grub of them.

But you will be hearing a lot about this case over the coming a week or weeks as the evidence has picked over. Some of the witnesses are going under the pseudonyms, but some will be Miss Ventura were doing it under their legal names. So we'll learn a bit about those accusations. Because it's been a wild set of theories about who might be involved and what we might learn up until this point. What's officially started now, so some of that stuff will begin to become clear. Let's check traffic. We'll talk sport very very shortly and get this some more of your texts on zero before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. You can call us two with your thoughts on eight double two three double double, or jump on the Facebook and YouTube live stream experience the smooth, rich flavor of mcafe today expertly crafted by trained barrister just the.

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To your point yesterday, will seventeen friends have you got no people haven't steal that fox.

There's no chance. It's middle aged men especially don't have seventeen friends. It's not a thing that happens. Who's friend number seventeen? When you're putting that box together, it's.

Getting the I reckon, I'm start yeah, John, Yeah.

It's been a while. It was babe here for five years. I mean John I'd be happy to get the call. I think John O'd be delighted through going to believe who called up? Apparently I want to be seven days. It's great composition though, what a great way to watch the footy though, that would be a hell of a lot of fun.

A little bit later in the year's when you get the last minute wedding invite. Oh yes, that means you weren't on the list. Yeah, you're either cart someone's camp so someone couldn't go.

Yeah.

I paid one hundred and fifty dollars for the can I pay cake and drinks package. You better make sure somebody calls baby. Yeah, he's got fun. Yeah, it's funny. Got a call from the day before the wedding.

They ring out, Oh nice, let's stalk sport last night Rowie tvg up with Mitching's Crows Defender came back in for the showdown on Saturday night. They asked you at the finish to the game, which was the bit that I think left gross of what is not feeling as euphoric as they probably were fifteen minutes prior you went there.

The last ten minutes you said it was actually the last thirty minutes. That was actually on the clock ranking kicks some magnificent goal. We're twenty two points up. And then a sign went up on the bench. I don't know who holds it up for the last quarter. It was a tea with a bicip flexed muscle.

What does that mean?

Well, I can't do your right too many, too many things of what we want to do early, as you know, But.

I guess it just it obviously means just take a little bit more control with the game and take a little bit less risk really, and as most teams do.

And you know, I think what we were we up by then, we were up by about four goals.

Yeah.

Yeah, It's just one of those things that you know, as as the game plays out and you just got to play your best hands. And I think within that we didn't probably play that as well as what we needed to. And I guess that's what we we look through today and what we look through this afternoon on how you know, when we find ourselves in similar positions, which we will with the competition competition we're in, how can we play these better?

He designs those signs. I like him.

They're hilarious, aren't they it's so funny, but like emoji's Yeah, do you wonder what.

The level of sophistication is in the actual message at the end of the day. But it's almost like base you know the pitches and they do the sort of you know, pull the variety of three times, scratch your left, wink a couple of times, put a slider into the low left corner, that kind of thing. Yeah, but I think whatever the sign means in hindsight, did that sign come out too early? They should perhaps retire that side.

Yeah.

If that sign meant tighten up and let put back into the game, they executed it perfection.

Yeah, yeah, we want to marquee finish here with four goals in front. Let pork kick the next three. Maybe maybe Channel seven put the sign up what we need when you work there. We don't want people to turn off. Yeah. It was like when you hear the commentators on TV. It must be in their contracts, you know, like you're watching some dire Melbourne v sent killed a game that's sullying the Friday night, well like last Friday is a good example, since Kilda Carlton, the commentator is like, I don't know, they drug them or something. You know, three minutes to go, six goals the difference and like you know the Saints still have a pulse and don't go anywhere. What what bit of equipment are you using that says they've got a pulse because I take it back to the manufacturer the please don't change the channel equipment. Do not watch the cooking channel.

All right, we're going to We're to take a quick break in and in just a moment Phil Curry is going to join us on five double Breakfast after seven thirty from the Australian Financial Review on the Liberal leadership ballots are going to take place today. But it looks like you've been a text has taken your fancy.

I don't quite understand it, Sharion his beach. I thought the sign meant send a text to Shari. Now what's this one here? Someone I used? I described a piece of furniture as a couch. Cheerly if someone's texted in saying it's not a couch in this country? Was it a lounge? Is it a sofa? A sofa? Surely the word couch is still acceptable in Australia, isn't it. It's doesn't donate that it's not saying I tripped over on the sidewalk where I'm going down to the postbox. Maybe it is I'm catching an air. It is I'm ignorant as well.

Couch twenty seven After seven News Time back shortly David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to line five Double A Breakfast twenty great await Phil Curry in justin moment. But first Lucy's in the five double A Breakfast Studio. We had a big announcement yesterday regarding the movie segment, and we've got a lot of people coming along to a very special event special five double A Breakfast Lucy's Movie segments screening of the original Top Gun. I think we must have got twenty thirty people along yesterday. We're going to get a whole lot more now eight double two three double O double oh is the number if you want to get along.

We're doubles to give away, haven't we lose? Yes?

Good morning all thanks to Wallace our special screening of the original Top Gun on the big screen at Wallace Cinema's Mitcham which will be Wednesday, the twenty eighth of May. We'd love to get a big bunch of listeners there, Colleen, you can win yourself as a double to get along.

You'll see me. I know that's the real reason.

Everyone, that's right. But it's Lucy's movie segments. I mean the music is I love Lucy, I know, I know, no, not really.

I just love to get people along to watch a movie at night.

Won't be too late.

We'd just love to have you there afterwards.

Going to the cinema. That's an experience. Going to the movies is fun.

We will have some popcorn and some treats. We're not just gonna make you sit there empty handed, but just free night at the movies. We'd love to come to have you along to see Top Gun the original on the big screen.

I want you a night last but I'm free that night. And I never saw Top Gun when it came out the movies. I've only seen it on TV.

Eighty six eighty seven is that when it came.

Out a bit later? And it was later than that, but well maybe it wasn't. I think I put it on your sheet there will somewhere, But as I was saying, it was eighty six, wow, I can't believe it was eighty six.

Anyway, I'd love to have you along Wednesdays for us.

Can we come to you? That's what I'm I'm.

Sorry, Yeah, skimmed over.

No, you're welcome.

Everyone's well to know.

See tickets left over, David, I think yeah, you know what that will be up the back. Don't trouble yourself with it. If one pops up in your email, it means you're invited.

Yeah, amuse yourself. Stuff goes into the spam folder.

Do you know how to check your email?

It's my first question. One don't have a work.

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Do you feel yeah, morning fels, it was eighty six. I just googled it.

Yeah, right. Did you see when it came out? Phil?

No?

No, I know that she saw it.

Yeah, I've only seen on TV Ghostbusters.

I never saw Ghostbusters either. What were you doing in eighty six, h I was twenty years old, can't remember university?

Yeah, because you were some marks. I think it was very foggy Europe exactly exactly.

I joined the Tyzer and mid Dave.

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that would have cleaned things up a lot.

It was all it was all yoga, and you know after that point, I'm sure pilarates glasses.

Yeah, that's earl.

Yep, that's right, speaking of things that are a bit all over the place. For this liberal leadership transition, Hasn't it exactly been smooth sailing for them the last week? Has it?

No?

No?

And you look, you know, this is really this is the blue they should have had, you know, after the last election, because they got the same message delivered to them two weeks ago as they did in twenty two and they like, it's a testament to Dunton. He just took over the leadership and unified them and they moved forward pretty quick. But in doing so, they probably didn't really recognize the structural problems and they got exposed again. So well that this is natural they're going through this, Well, it's not unnatural. It is just in what bad position they're in. In terms of numbers, they're really down I think forty one at the moment we're talking for the entire coalition in the lower House. If you add the Nationals and the Liberals senators and Lower House MPs, you know, they got like seventy seventy two in a combined house two hundred and twenty six MPs, so they're really been whittled back. So you can understand, you know, there's a whiff of existentialism about this whole exercise. And I think the danger is today that the two candidates, Susan Lee and Angus Taylor, probably only one or two votes in it, and so yeah, it's not going to be an emphatic result. And I think Susan Lee her numbers are propped up by three or four senators who won't be around after July one because they lost their seats, so you know, this may not be the end of the matter. And then of course you've got the National Party. You know, of all the coalition parties have done really well the last two elections, they've held all their seats, yet Matt Canavan decided to blow it up anyway, just because why not, And run for the leadership yesterday, and so that's little Proud did survive. But now he's talking about walking away from this commitment to net zero emissions by twenty fifty. So that will make it very hard for whoever wins the liberal ballot today to sort of sit in coalition with the Nats because the Libs, you know, they've already been wiped out in the cities for a reason, and they really can't abandon net zero. So it's a I think today's just you're going to be the first in a series of unfortunate events that are just going to happen over the next little while.

What's your take on just enterprices move from the Nets to the Libs? Also? Do you think, because clearly a lot of conservative people, a lot of our conservative listeners really love her for the role that she played opposing the Voice, but has she sort of done enough post Voice to sort of broaden her policy sort of horizons do you think?

Look? Not really, but look, she's a superstar, there's no doubt about it, and she's a real phenom. She's only been around three years. I've not quite seen anyone like this. I mean, I sort of made the point you know, within three years she earned first name recognition. Now people refer to as just Into. And you know you've had your Paul Leans and your Kevins and your Barnaby's. These people usually takes a while, so's there's something about her. But she does appeal, you know, exclusively to Conservative voters, which isn't really the constituency they need to win over. They've already got those. I do sort of worry for her a little bit. She's still very young, just Into, as I said, she's only been in three years. He's never sat in government, she's never held a ministry. And if she were to become deputy leader of the Liberal Party today, I mean that's a big job. That's you know, that's like being the agony Arnt. You get a funnel all the rubbish back and forth between the leader and the backbench. You have a senior portfolio. It's quite a yeah, it's got an element of pastoral care to it. And I just know, I don't think any of that's been taken into account. She's been drafted clearly to bring numbers to Angus Taylor's leadership. I will sort of worry about the rest later. So she winds up as deputy leader today, she could well get chewed up in coming months if this thing turns nasty. So but you know, she's a big girl. She she's made her own decision and that's obviously don't like it. She's taken her number off them. No one likes her rat in politics, and she now goes down into that, you know, as a rat, which is the term they use when someone deserves a party. But you know, everyone wants to everyone wants to be associated with just in it because she's a vote magnet.

But how does Taylor reinvent himself given on the cusp of the campaign, they're all these devastating internal leaks, people in the party basically describing the guy as a blood aread and done anything policy wise. How does he get out there now and say I'm the future.

Well that's a good question. They had a shocking campaign and part of that was their economic policies or lack thereof. Well his excuse is that a lot of they did do a lot of work, but Dutton's office, you know, Kyle bosched a lot of it, didn't want to release it too complicated. So if he does get the leadership, he'll be free of all that, and it'll be down to him to prove all that. Look, I think he you know, if this mob's going to sort of really get back in the game, and we're talking, don't forget that there are so few seats they cannot win the next election. You know, it's I mean, you never say never in politics, but no one has ever won from forty one seats before, or they'd have to win thirty five and that's never happened in history. So in reality, this is a two term proposition now at at best. So you know, will Taylor even make it, you know, to become prime minister. It's doubtful. It'd have to survive, see keys. So it's a big haulback and I think the best thing he can do because in terms of conservatism, he's an old school budget manager. He actually believes in that quaint notion have you got to you got to live within your means, which this country, this country hasn't been doing for a lot of years now since cos.

That's a good message for the Lens, isn't it, because that was where they vacated the space during this campaign that they weren't running on the economy.

Well they tried to, and it didn't work because people wanted to hand out still, so they had to sort of flick flick the switch. But someone's going to have to get serious at some stage about fixing the budget, because, as I said, this doesn't go away dead and deficit doesn't go away, It just gets worse and then, you know, and we just weren't trap trapped in this intergenera intergenerational debt trap at the moment. So I suspect, you know, if you're going to begin the slow build, you go back to first principles about fixing fixing the budget and getting getting serious about the economy and reform and putting up some big ods, you know, actually taking a punt on tax reform. It's like they've got nothing to lose now, so you know, a bit of a fight back type thing. I think that's really where they have to go. If they're going to reinvent themselves and you get people back.

Yeah, then when are we going to see the Greens come up with you later? Worry about that after time. I guess.

They've got much to choose. Look, look, they had any brains they'd put in Sarah Hanson Young, I mean she's smart, she's been around a long time, she's moderate, she's an old school Green. You know, it was Sarah who sort of took it upon her shoulders late last year to take over the leadership effectively and went to see Alberneti and said, look, we're blocking all this legislation that's killing us. Let's do a deal. And remember that last week in Parliament they passed fifty something built. That was all her work. And then if you notice early this year, up to the election, part Madam Banch she was effectively the Green spokesperson and they they hid Max Chandler ma Either and Marine Ferruki and all the radicals for a good reason because these people had scared off votus. So if the Greens decided to put in Marine Ferruki, well that's a bit like you know, the Liberals saying we need to lurch further to the right. I mean, the Green's got punished. I've not seen an election where the result has been so emphatic and there's been such a lack of self reflection by those who've lost.

And.

Including the Greens. Everyone's bought, but there's you know, so you know, if they're serious about getting back on their feet. They'd go us Sarah. If they want to sort of you know, Dina dish, they'll go the other way. But that's Thursday's problem.

Yeah, no, exactly. Yeah, all right, Phil, we'll catch up again. So top stuff, Phil Courry there for the Australian Financial Review in camera thirteen to way.

We're going to conduct a jury trial in just a moment on the controversial push to revisit laws in place in Australia since two thousand and four that banned gender selection for having babies. Apparently Australians traveler traveling abroad at the moment to California in places so they can pick the gender of their child. Those undergoing IVF and there's a US doctor who provides the services touring Australia in conjunction with a fertility group is saying it's time to revisit the practice.

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We're going to talk about it next but the jury will be convene to get the five double a breakfast audience. Should you be able to choose the gender of your child? Select or surprise for the jury this morning. Select or Surprise Will and I Reckon we've both got views. I'm trying to guess what Wool's views are on this. I know I've got some strong views on it, but we won't jaun us the jury. We'll be guided by the Duke. Then we'll see what we think afterwards. All right, jury coming up next. Let's chick traffic Spirits the smooth, rich flavor of mcafe today, expertly crafted by trained barister, just the way you like it.

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We got one hundred dollars Semtast Seafood vouch you to give away to someone who appears on the jury, or just be randomly given away. You can remain totally anonymous. Of course, this one might be a sensitive one for some people. I imagine it's going to there be a lot of strong views. Essentially, the question is this when it comes to the banning of gender selection for babies in Australia. It's been banned since two thousand and four. Should that be revisited? Should the sex if your child be a surprise or something you select? Select or surprise are the two positions you can hold on the jury this morning. The reason the question is being raised is because of a visiting US doctor who provides the service in California who's saying it's crazy Australians are coming here to pay for this. I could come to Australia and do it, or people in Australia could do it. And a peak fertility group in Australia says a problem with people having kids. Maybe this would help. Select or surprise eight double two to three double O double is the number.

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It's not a cheap service. The woman who's done it Caitlin Bailey. She spent forty five thousand dollars, which included the flights as well, to go overseas to pick the gender of her baby. Maybe she'd already painted the room. Maybe that was it, you know, going down traditional gender norms.

If you've got fifty if you've got fifty grand to spend on the service, or could you could buy a new liquor paint good?

Yeah?

Probably she's an influencer. Oh, that's that's that's a job these days, being an influencer nine five? Or is that just whenever you got your instaram on the on the on the lund always on it. Do you have a right to disconnect as an influencer? Well, that's it. When does the day start? Wow?

This is just to finish, isn't it all right? Let's let's get some The jury is forming. It's the jury is forming. Let's get being handled. Someone is going to win one hundred dollars worth the Samtas seafood still spots available eight double two three double o double O. When it comes to the sex of your new child, should it be something you select or something that's left to be a surprise. Currently, of course, in Australia, as I say, it is banned this practice. During number one, what's your verdict?

Yeah, absolutely not because how far does it go? Next thing? You know, you'll have utopian sort of society where everyone, you know, they want their child blonde hair, blue white, or seven foot tall or just a genetic engineering mate. It'll just be out of control as soon as they allow it. You can just say, what's going to happen?

Yeah, that doesn't sound that's a that's a vote there for surprise, thank you. During number one, you're a number two, select or Surprise.

I'd go surprise. But you know, as kids grow up, wouldn't you love to change it, you know when.

They get to the years or something like that.

But you've got a little moneral and you want to change it, you know.

You doing number two? During number three, select or Surprise.

Good morning. I'd go select simply out of my own personal experience.

Okay.

My parents were desperate for boy after having two girls and got me and they brought me up as a boy and it gave me all sorts of problems in early life.

Not so much now, but back then, Wow, what a what a life story.

During that, it's a fascinating perspective. During number three, thank you, During number four, good morning.

Good morning, caveat on surprise, I do select, but only ford reditary genetic medical disorders. Yeah so not because yeah, because you can get some really okay mother's passion anderstones with regard to the bleeding disorder and stuff like that.

Yeah, yeah, okay, a good point. That's a really good point. Yeah, that's I don't think anyone typically valid point. Yeah, No, one would have an issue. I think even among those that have said surprise this morning, of those texting and if it was on the basis of a medical condition, I imagine during number five, good morning.

Good morning.

Yes, I'm with the bier Dura of the same reason. So select, and it might necessarily be medical grounds that there can be greater preparitive certain conditions and certain genders and appearance. In some instances are wanting to do it may be viewed as selfish, but as the responsible thing is, they can reduce the chances or the lightfully important of those conditions where it may impose extra costs on say indias, et cetera. It would be nice for them to have that choice outside of adopting, or outside of fostering, or outside of other mechanisms.

Yeah, good point. There's some very thoughtful answers to a pretty hot topic. That one this morning.

Who gets one hundred dollars semis seafood? I reckon, let's give it to during number three during number three wild backstory about her life. I got to say with that during number one made the very good point where it does it stop? I mean, the whole thing's got a little bit of a boys from Brazil quality to my mind. But you get people saying, you know, blonde hair, blue eyes. Thanks. The other thing is there's a reason that the human race doesn't matter how much we grow population wise, but it's pretty much fifty fifty at getting fifty fifty out we Yeah, and there's a reason for that that you know, you live in China. They distorted it and a woman and you put them together and you keep getting more humans. That's the way humanity works. And there's a lot of cultures that favor boys over girls, particularly only a century ago. The Mediterranean cultures were notorious for you know, boys would be rewarded through wills and estates. Everything will be left to the Boy. The idea was that if you had a daughter, it was like, oh, well, you know, we're going to love her, but would have been nice to have a son.

You know.

It could actually result in cultural skewing, where percentage wise you end up with more men than women.

Intriguingly, the Doctor's out here advocating for this makes the point that of Australians traveling to the US for this service, about seventy percent of Australian's wanted daughters. So yeah, right, yeah, intriguing. A minute to eight five double news is coming up, Breaking It eight next.

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Is that right?

Was it?

That day? Remember? The next morning we had rowih on he was crying on air. Great interview. That was spectacular And the reason we were there it was an RAA SA tourism promotion, trying to get people to take regional holidays after COVID. That's because that's why we went to the Brossa. The night before we went to the Brossa. That was a rough old show, wouldn't it.

Well, that wasn't our fault. James Wallas, that was James Wols. It's Chicken with Jade Robber and Who's out in the road for us this morning.

Morning.

Good Jade, Good morning guys. Sounds fun.

I've headed down to Nailsworth this morning on the corner of Main North Road and also Alpha Road where there are major traffic delays this morning. Now that's been caused by a car accident that occurred last night. Now the car hit a fire hydrant and also a powerpole just outside Mitsubishi there. Now emergency services have been on site here this morning since the cracker dawn to fix the problem. Now, if you jump onto the live stream you'll see the extent of works being done and now it's expected to take until midday, maybe even longer to fix. So there's quite a lot of water on the road, a lot of SA services down here trying to fix the problem. SA Water traffic control. The area is down to one lane and also speeds have been reduced. So if I'm looking down towards the North already traffic is banked up a few hundred meters. So look, if you are heading to work from the North, if you can take another way to work or call your boss to say you are gonna be late. That again, major water works damage being fixed on the corner of Alpha Road.

Now Alpha Road is also closed.

There's quite a lot of cars trying to drive down Alfa Road to turn left onto May North Road. That is closed and it will be until later this afternoon, so if you are heading into work, do avoid the area.

Good on you, Jade, thank you for that, all right, stop breaking up.

Well.

For almost fifty years, the Saints Gym Club has been located at Saint Peter's Girls College, where, unfortunately, due to renovation works, the club now faces expulsion. Not only have they been told they've got to go, they've been told that they've got to go this year. So it's come like a bolt out of the blue. Now, this is a club's hugely successful and hugely popular club. They've got three hundred and seventy members, but beyond that they've got something like five hundred more than five hundred who are waitlisted to join. So there's clearly huge demand for the services that are provided for all of the kids out there and older people who are into gymnastics. Jess is the president of the Saints Jim and we've got her on the line now because they're saying, as a broader issue, where are the facilities in the East for kids who want to get involved in sport. Jess, good morning and thanks for joining us. This sounds like a terrible situation, especially given the popularity of your club.

Thanks for having me today. Yeah, look, it is a really serious situation that we are facing with the pending demolition of the building that we've been in per Sapch a long time. I did want to just recognize the generosity of the school over those forty seven years that we have been there, and they have been very good to us. But as you mentioned, really as a club without growing that facility, and there is a really serious issue around a lack of suitable facilities statewides, but particularly in the eastern suburbs to support this sport, which is really for girls under fourteen, the second most popular only to netball.

Yeah yeah. Is part of the problem the availability of land and appropriate buildings for the type, because by definition, if you're doing gymnastics for hundreds of young girls only, you're going to need plenty of room, aren't you.

Absolutely so we have about seven hundred and fifty square meters at the moment. But what's really important is the dimensions of the building. So a vault run is twenty five meters plus landing area and for aerial works that we do. Some of the gym sports need more, but we really need about six meters clearance, And so you're absolutely right. The lack of land and the lack of suitable buildings is what's made it really challenging for us to find an alternate space.

Are there other gymnastics centers around that could accommodate your numbers or is it something where I mean, you know, clearly people want to I don't mind traveling a bit, but you probably don't know be have to drive a gall or all dinger to access comparable services.

Absolutely so, we are the largest gym club in the Eastern Suburbs offering the programs that we do. So there's really nothing like us in the Eastern Suburbs that could haveccommodate our member base or our wait list if we did. If people were able to find other clubs, they would be going out to somewhere like te Tri Gully would probably be the closest, or Oaklands Park over in the kind of south western Suburbs would absolutely be the closest. But it's also worth noting that some of these girls are training up to four days a week, and so it's not just kind of taking them out once a week for an hour or so. It could be up to three hours, four times a week that families would be traveling to find an alternate club.

Thanks Jess. I know that your local member, Jack Baddie, has been firing up about this. We've got him on the line now, Jack, what's your take on this? What should be done?

Well?

Look like, I just wanted to emphasize how important the club is to our local community in helping literally hundreds of young girls and boys, budding gymnasts, participate in a sport they love. I was out there on the weekend. The Kaye Perry music was lasting and I saw some very impressive young athletes flipping and jumping and rolling. We talk so often about the importance of kids being active and keeping away from screens and devices as well. Here's an example of the club that's doing just that and deserves our support. So we'd love to sit down with the government, the Minister and the Office for Recreation and the support and sort of work constructively to identify potential facilities because we do have a problem in the eastern suburbs. We're starved of open space and recreational facilities and sporting facilities.

Yeah, no, fair enough, good point Jack Baddy there backing up Jess from the Saints. Jim, thanks for joining us, for breaking it up. They can find somewhere to accommodate them. Yeah yeah, I mean there's os kick everywhere. Yeah. Part of the argument for updoing, sorry, upgrading the North Adelaide public golf courses to quite the premiere so that young boys and girls can follow their dream that they can go out there with a nine nine and play for their country one day and a live golf tournament. Well what if you want to be the next naety A common Ch I did really stop and think.

Then Lucy said, some own bills might be more contemporary. Example, But yes, Natty common Edge, you know.

Show my age there, But that's the own biles. She's just unbelievable. It's ridiculous, just absolutely ludicrous. You've done a bit of gymnastics, well, well only the artistic obviously. Did you ever go out to the Saints? I was waiting for the call after the imagine all the gymnastics mums dropping off their under fourteen year old girls and seeing we'll get out of his car with his ribbons.

After the Undy drive I did. I launched a website sales available to come out of anyone that didn't get any takers.

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But we're going to come back and chat with Kim Green, who from Lenswood Orchards. Now SA power ewicks come and chop down trees outside your house or you know, they cut through to make children that the integrity of the power lines is okay, it's important work. It's not great when they come through your apple orchard and lop off what is your hard earned capital. That's precisely what happened to Kim Green. He's going to tell us the story after the break.

I think they used the same guy that Hans Gruber used in Die Hard, remember that scene. Yes, I'll disconnect. Yeah, the nacoteaming plaza from the mains power grid. Thank you very much for using a chainsaw.

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Twenty two minutes after eight. Kim Green. There runs the orchard at Lenswood Orchards. They grow apples. They're they're absolutely magnificent. They've currently got a whole bunch of trees that are fruit bearing. They're coming along. They look terrific.

Unfortunately, someone FROMSA Power Networks, in their haste to sort of obviously cut things around a power line, has chopped half the trees down. Kim, good morning to you. This is obviously not funny for you. What if they say Power Networks.

Said to you.

They haven't said anything. That's one of the nine things. They just don't come back to us. They hide beyond the legislation. And we've spoken to the guy that wrote the legislation who was retired, and he said what they're cutting now is nothing to what the legislation was written up as. And we have always thre in the top of the trees had the right to do that, and they come in and do some gum trees. So they've come in and some of the trees are down to two meters. I'm not a very tall fellow, and I can put my hand on top of the tree right before harvest. That's probably the disappointing thing. We're right at the point of harvest. We've had a challenging year with birds and bats and the heats and the extremely dry summer. We've got them right to the point of harvest, and they come in and down they went.

At Looking at that photo, Kim that you've put up, it looks like they've basically just got a chainsaw and just sort of horizontally just walked along the entire length of the trees.

Yeah. Yeah, they've done quite a few like that, and others they've just trimmed the top. But the pair lines are like five or six meters away. And that's the crazy thing. My neighbors lost twenty tree hy down the length of the power lines. There's no way known that any fire will be in that area to littlelone start in that area, and these are cultivated trees, not like it's going to be a gum tree that can fall on the line.

Yeah.

No, so we're a bit perplexed.

But what do you reckon, Kim? What's the estimated value of the damaged do you think, Oh, look.

There's we're talking thousands of dollars gee, and we have been bringing him down each year to their requirements. But now they've gone over it's going to say over and above that note under their limits. They've changed the rules and they're saying we can't cut the trees down any longer. They got to do it. Well, here they are. They've had all summer to do it with the fire season is on, and now the season's finished, and then they come and cut the trees. It's a bit bizarre.

Did they give you notice that they were doing it, Kim?

Like?

Is it the equivalent of when you're, you know, in a residential setting where you get a note in your letterbox from s. A. Pound Networks saying we're going to be doing some tree trimming in the coming weeks.

About three months ago, and they only ever come in and do the gum trees. So I wasn't too concerned. I soon got concerned when I went down there and saw this devastation it's like, come on, guys, this is brutal.

So you I'm called for So you saw it happening with your own eyes. You saw them doing it.

No, No, if I'd been there, they wouldn't have been doing it.

What does it mean for the trees, Kim, Well, so the trees.

Are nicely balanced, and now we've cut them basically in half. Those trees will go from fruitful which they are now, to vegetive. So those trees now are really upset, literally, and they'll be going growth because that root system is still in the ground, and then it'll pump more vigor into the top and it'll be just back up near where they were, but it will be vegetate. It won't be fruitful, and it'll last for a lot of years. It's not like it's a ten minutes lost that fruit and it will be all right next year. It will be ongoing. And the lines do stag where the boys are cut, so really if they power really need to lift that line up a bit, but yeah, they'd rather come in do a lot of trimming. Yeah, and the public of pain for all this. We're not only paying expensive power, but we're paying expensive tree trimming. Trying to make it safe. Now, we're very conscious about buyers, so we don't want to compromise that. But yeah, this is this is ridiculous. They really expanded their area of clear distance. But you know, as long as mars points to the ground or a fire will never be in that area.

Yeah. Yeah, well, Kim, normally you'd say she will be apples at the end of an interview like this, But it sounds like it's a problem now and it's going to be a problem for all the crops into the future. Hopefully. I know Dan Craig and the local member has spoken to you about this, and he's got a good in with the government. Maybe you can get some sort of an explanation, but I worry about that. What you said at the start though, about your mate, who knows how the laws work. It sounds pretty water tight, doesn't it.

Yeah, well that's what they keep hiding beyond the law. But the guy that wrote the law said this is not the law. Yeah, Okay, they're using a bit of expensive power and you treat us all like wallies and that's disappointing. We've got no comeback, we've got no conversation with them. They've been driving their trucks around doing the power lines and we accept that. Well, I went up the back the other day and all these applets on the ground. They've gone nowhere near the power lines and got into trouble and back down hit threes, all this fruit on the ground, and.

I think that's okay, that's crazy. Kim. We're sorry to hear that, and hopefully you get a response soon. And b sounds like there's probably a case for compensation. Kim Green from a Lenswood Orchards. It reminds me, do you see that photo doing the rounds about people who don't care about their job? Of the guy whose job it was to paint the white lines on the roads and he's gone straight over the dead squirrel. It's a bit like that. They got one of those guys working at SA Power Networks. By the sounds of things during this one might be one for the Energy Minister to have one of his famous testy conversations constructive squearing. Yeah, well it doesn't sound like you know, you can just imagine the person he did. Hey, listen, you know there's a lot of trees there. I was just told to cut them. Yeah, yeah, what do you want me to do well, maybe not just knowingly stand there crazy like a drongo, hacking into perfectly good trees that aren't that aren't actually touching the power line.

Unbelievable news is coming up. We're off to the US in just a moment. We're going to be chatting with John Shaw, the director of the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute at Southern Illinois Universe.

David Penberthy, and Will Goodings. Six to nine five double a breakfast tweety two.

Minutes the nine.

We're off for the United States very very shortly. But first let's head out in the road here in Adelaide because Jade Roberin has been at the site of a burst waterway throughout the morning.

Good morning again, Jade.

Yeah, good morning guys. And things haven't improved.

If you are driving into work on Main North Road, it's shockers around Nailsworth and Prospect, and that is because there was a car accident last night and that car has smashed into a fire hydrant and also a powerpole which has caused that water damage. So water is everywhere, and as we know, we're in the thick of peak hour traffic and it is just horrible out here. So emergency Services. They've been on site since sunrise to fix the problem, and if you jump onto the live stream you'll see the extent of works being done. It is expected that they'll be here until midday at the very least. It could go into the late hours of this afternoon. But traffic is down to one lane and it is banked up as far as I can see. We're down to one lane here and speed restrictions to forty k So if you are heading into work, maybe take Hamstead or Prospect roads as well. But jumping onto the maps, it's looking like those two roads there are also getting quite thick as well, So maybe just ring the boss Settlin listen to five double A because it's going.

To be a long road into the city this morning.

Guys, good advice, Jada. Absolutely, we're getting a lot of texts too.

Seems like the poor orchardist Kim Green that we spoke to a short time ago isn't the only person having issues with SA Power Networks.

Chainsaw Daniel says, guys, SAPN drive us man too. I'm in Balhanna. They come multiple times a year and they absolutely butcher all trees on our boundaries. They cut way too hard, leave mess everywhere and trample when entering properties. Another one here, SA Power Networks killed two street trees in our street from hacking at trees that were away from our lines. They only cut behalf near the lines, leaving the tree really uneven and clearly at risk. They're definitely not arborists, and Ian in Morpha Vale says SA Pound Network should employ arborist. Sounds like they can't tell an apple tree from a gum tree. Thank you for that.

In keep coming in here at four zero thirty ninety five, I've called us on eight double two three a double O. We love the opportunities we get to chat with John Shaw from Southern Illinois University, who's the director of the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute and someone we call upon whenever we're trying to make sense of what's happening in the United States policy wise and anticipate what it's going to mean for us here in South Australia. John Shaw, good morning to you again.

Good morning, but I have a tough job explaining what's going on in you Noted's see.

Now you do it well, John, That's why we like talking to you. So we've been trying to work our way through it. This morning, obviously overnight Australia time, this new deal with China was announced, tych On. It was that Trump is a businessman. Do you think he just saw the rotting on the wall and realized that the economic damage from his plan I he was going to be too great.

Yeah, I think that's basically. I mean, in fact, I was just thinking. The last time we talked to it was right on the eve of Liberation Day, so called Liberation Day, and I remember I went way way out on the limb and kind of suggested that I thought the provisions and the Trump plan probably were not etched in stone and would likely change fairly fundamentally. And it didn't take too long before you know, that became clear. Not that my prediction was genius. In fact, the pundits here were saying, you know, this is liberation Day. I sure hate to see what capitulation Day looks like. So it's been chaotic, and yeah, the agreement with China that was reached in the last day or so seems to have put a pause on the trade war. The markets responded very favorably. As you suggest, I think Trump, Trump reacts to the polls to markets and the Americans, you know, they were starting to grow weary of this, this constant kind of clown show of shifting policies, particularly now that it's starting to affect people's pockets. Book. I think that, you know, disruption sounds great and the abstract, but once it starts hitting your pocketbooks and how effects you know, the consumer goods you can get and the prices you pay, the sort of support for disruption starts to decline pretty significantly.

John, has the end game become any clearer to you over the course of of of the last month or two since Liberation Day in terms of what the goals of the administration are At various points, we've heard it's about re homing and manufacturing back in the United States. Obviously tariff's a big component of that. Yet tariffs then get reduced and the administration says, well, their introduction was a negotiating tactic to get to restore balance of trade relationships with countries.

We chose it, and we do we even know do you even know?

Well?

I mean that's been problem. The problem because it seems like there's two or three contradictory elements that part are part of this whole package because on the one part, it was announced as a way of kind of shoring up Americans manufacturing base, and then you know, days later they say, wow, it's also about raising revenues to help pay for a big tax bill that starting to move through Congress, and another one to just kind of re kind of reposition the global economy. So, I mean, it's a policy that has lacked coherence from day one. And you know, Trump for forty years has had this kind of incoherent view that you know, tariffs are good to somehow you know, rebalance global trade. But it's never really explained clearly what he's thinking or why this policy. I think is just a reflection of kind of the muddle thinking in his mind on trade issues.

John, how's the relationship between Canada and the US? Now, It's an amazing election result in Canada where the they have left leaning party, the Liberals were well and truly on the mat all the polls after Justin Trudeau's resignation said that they were going to get wiped out, and he as a as a putative conservative, he's he's done a good job of suscitating left wing governments because the result was a total a total shocker for the Conservatives in Canada, wasn't it.

No, it very much was. And I have to say, you know, yeah, I mean there's a lot of the commentary here was just on how you know, Trump, you know, was able to help the government that was in free fall. And I also have to say, Americans, I mean, it depends, I guess, on your political affiliation, but there was I have to say a fair amount of respect from Mark Carney when he was in the Oval Office a week or so ago and made a very very clear that, you know, Canada was not for sale. I think a lot of Americans, you know, dis respected that, you know, because I think so many people in the political class here have become just complete supplicants. And it was it was good to see someone show a little steel. It was quite refreshing.

I have to say, watching from Australia, it actually felt like some of the people though from the new media who are aligned with Trump, and I'm thinking now of Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan was actually really outspoken, I thought in a good way. So while we're picking a fight with Canada, they're not the enemy.

And that's the thing. I mean, Canada is I mean when you're looking apart from Australia. You know, I love Australia. I mean when you think of just a wonderful neighbor, I mean, how do you beat Canada? They're nice human beings, you know, they they you know, there's just this wonderfully cordial relationship between Americans and Canadians. I mean they're much nicer than we are, much more respectfully off which we were a little bit more like Canadians and our day to day live. So yeah, I mean, picking a fight with with Canada it's sort of like, you know, your beloved, you know, younger brother, you just turn on them and just punch them out. It just feels so utterly gratuitous and unnecessary and just sort of disrespectful, and it makes you feel awful.

You know.

We've been trying to make sense of what kind of deal we might get here in Australia with the United States with regard to tariffs, and you know, trying to take out what the various positions mean, like the agreement that was struck with the United Kingdom. Do you think that's amodal for what we might see going forward? And what was your biggest takeout of a deal like that we've lot Canada or traditional at alave of the United States.

You know, I thought it was interesting, although the thing that was most striking to me is just how sketchy it is. I think the entire agreement was like five pages, which suggests more of a conceptual framework than a real agreement. Because you know, back in the day when I was a reporter covering trade, I mean I remember going through trade bills that were four or five, six, seven hundred pages and trying to make good trying to understand what they're all about. So this struck me as a framework that I think, you know, was needed by the administration to start showing some deliverables. I mean some sense that all this, you know, this deal making that Trump professes to be you know, skilled at, was actually going to yield something. So it will be interesting to see how this agreement is fleshed out going forward.

And just lastly, John Illinois had a moment recently, so you provided the new pipe from there in Chicago.

It was unbelievable. In fact, I guess one of the Italian newspapers called him the least American of the American cardinals. You know, he is this, you know, multi lingual, kind, generous, balanced, I mean he is, and of course the people here have just said a couple of things. One is, someone like this Holy Father Leo would have been inconceivable if America had a more mainstream, stable president, if Joe Biden was in the White House. I don't think there's any way the College of Cardinals would have chosen American pope. But you know, Trump is such an outlier, and I'm not saying that they chose him to be kind of the anti Trump, but I think you know, Trump's you know, he's such a kind of a outside of it. I think the American mainstream that it allowed for someone like Leo to make his way forward. So I mean, just watching the old interviews, he's such a delightful, modest, plane spoken, decent guy. His two brothers are just you know, classic salt of the earth folks talking about you know, their little brothers. So it's been a really good story and I think Americans, you know, are proud that we're able to produce someone that the world can look to with some degree of respect. So go for Pope Leo. Thanks so much, appreciate it.

John Suare from the Southern Illinois University, so Illinois, Chicago, Illinois, front row seat to watch now the world's most famous white Sox fan. I think that's right. Accordingly, I don't know who Barack Obama supported. I'm sure, not sure, but I think the popes brought more famous than Baraka. But wasn't he Barack Obama was really good mates with them. Harold ramis the guy who created caddy Shack because Ghostbusters. Yeah, because when when he died, Obama wrote that great tweet saying that on his deathbed he will receive eternal consciousness, which for the conye SENDI Caddyshack devots Carl Spackl's line about how he played around with the Dalai Lama gongola. That's excellent.

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David Pemberte and Wild Goodings six to nine five double a breakfast.

It's right on seven minutes to nine. This is a story that it's such a heartwarming story, but it's potentially got such a terrible ending. It involves this group of eight people with disabilities who've been living together in what is basically like a sharehouse where they've basically they're like their own little family. They've been living together at a place called Abbey Field House in Edwardstown for more than ten years now. There's been some sort of a dispute involving Lessie, the people who rent them the building. There's some sort of backstory that's a bit complicated, where basically the rent's been jacked up and they can't afford to pay it. It involves the Marion Council. The council doesn't actually well says it doesn't have the power to intervene in the least agreement. So they've said they've got no alternative but to sell the property. Now what that means, though, is that this group of excellent people are all going to be broken up. They're going to have to go through the ending is presumably trying to find new accommodation. It's really tugged on people's heartstrings, understandably, so a petition has been started. Frank Pengello, the Independent MLC's involved, has got twelve thousand signatures and it's being presented today. Frank, good on you for going in about for these people. What's the possible solution do you.

Think, Well, look, I'm calling for the state government to intervene and.

Buy the property.

Now the council itself wants to wash its hands of the property. It says that it's not in the business of overseeing people with disability or the NDI is. Well, they don't have to. All they have to do is find a new lease, have a new less or next year when it goes they have an option to keep the property. They got it for nothing many years ago, so it's not really going to cost them, But they just intent on selling it off Peno and it's really going to break up this family. They are quite distressed the residents there at the moment. I've been there several times. One of them is Jake, the water boy at the Adelaide Crows and these people, you know, are just uncertain and it's causing a lot of distress of the families. When the solution is quite simple. If the government can find money so that laid lightning, build the football ovals at Lynn Dock and also we'll leave golf, well, you know, they can step in here and buy the property. They already have a caveat over it. And then find a suitable operator to look after them. I mean, there is a simple solution here, but they are all trying to make it difficult. And I'm disappointed with Marion Counsel because they just seeing it as an opportunity to cash in here on a property they got for nothing.

Sorry, I was going to say, for me, it seems like such a unique environment that these people live in that the state government wouldn't be setting some dangerous precedent by buying it. Like it's just such a one off thing, isn't it that they should just say if this needs to keep existing, because it's great.

It is, and it works, and it works for them, and it works for their families. And look if you if you visit there yourself, it's a beautiful environment, beautiful home and this is all unnecessary and it can be avoided. So I'm calling on the state government to firstly consider buying the property if if the Marion Council wants to divest of it, or Marion Council can make a decision and decide to hang on to it and find a new operator for the place. You know, the thing is, when you.

See the families today, Frank, tell them would love to chat to one of them on to you later in the day, but would love to get one of them on tomorrow. One of the residents is all if they're up for it, would like to talk to them, maybe with their parents. But good on you for flying the flag for the mate. We'll do more on the story. Frank Pangalo joining us there.

It's heartbreaking to see what it means to them and what the disruption and not having that sense of community. They'll find somewhere, but that's not the point. It's not this place.

Yeah, and that's totally and they won't all be together, and they.

Won't be together, which is such a huge it's a huge thing for them to. Let's have a look at the fuel situation before we leave you this morning day. Get stuck on the side of the road, get raa road service. There are some cheap spots around and there remains one under a dollar fifty the shell OTR Power Bank Salisbury Highway dollar forty nine point nine, thank you very much. Otherwise, BPX Convenience Brooklyn Park on Helly Beach Road dollar fifty one point five is pretty good. It's going to get more expensive in some other places. The Cowtex Hall at Cove Ramrod Avenue dollar fifty five point nine, for example, and the shell OTRs at Mary South roadt dollar fifty seven point nine diesel. You can get it under a dollar seventy, and sometimes you can do a lot better than that. The mobile Hampstead Gardens Northeast Roads at a dollar sixty four point five and the shell OTRK Fulham Henley Beach Road is a dollar sixty.

Nine point nine. We are out of time.

Stick around for Graham Goodings. Will be back tomorrow morning from six o'clock and we'll see you then.

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