Heidi talks with Shroud Researcher Joseph Marino.

<p>Heidi talks with Shroud Researcher Joseph Marino.</p>

Therapist Heidi Hollis, who named and defined Shadow People™ and Hat Man™, investigates paranormal experiences and their connections.

Dark Becomes Light

From angels to aliens, get paranormal advice from the therapist and woman who defined Shadow People & Hat Man, Heidi Hollis!

<p>From angels to aliens, get paranormal advice from the therapist and woman who defined Shadow People &amp; Hat Man, Heidi Hollis!</p>

Episode 97: Shroud of Turin

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