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Daniel Cormier TV - Daniel Cormier CALLS OUT Michael Bisping + DEBATE on who is the GREATEST heavyweight EVER!

Published Nov 11, 2023, 12:46 PM

Michael Bisping went on the record saying Tom Aspinall will beat Sergei Pavlovich EASILY, then defeat Jon Jones and become the greatest heavyweight "of all-time" and DC is READY to call him on it. Daniel Cormier and Bisping break down the main event at UFC 295 between Aspinall and Pavlovich. Plus, don't miss the guys talk about the future of the heavyweight division with Stipe Miocic vs. Jon Jones still in the balance.

1:00 - Bisping's HOT TAKE on Tom Aspinall
5:00 - Who's the greatest Heavyweight ever?
7:00 - Aspinall vs. Pavlovich breakdown
10:00 - Jon Jones vs. Stipe Miocic still happening?

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Listen. So Mike and I are in this YouTube game together. It's our first collab video.

We've never done one together before, but I figured we needed to talk because you're a guy like this.

Is what they say in the streets. They say this in the streets.

You're out their head first, right, you're out their head first. You're not protecting your face. You said one, yes, that's what you're in. You're like this, you hit me in the faith.

So anyways, still got it.

Mike, who is one of the greatest commentators in the world, one of the best minds of mixed martial arts, goes on record and says.

Some things that I stopped by him.

So last night I called him because I saw he said that Tom Aspinall, who again I really do think highly of him, moves around the octagon like Muhammad Ali.

You said that. I thought, Okay, that's a lot. He said this whatever before dcn RC.

Well, then he doubles do hold it's like enough hours in the day haven't passed before he doubles down and says he's going to make it look easy this weekend.

He's going to beat John Jones and he's going to retire as the greatest heavy weight of all this. So I call him you because I gotta know. And what did I say? Mike? Is this a gimmick? What are we doing? I said? What are we doing? I go, Mike, is this a gimmick?

You were doing one of the hype you do one of the thing as well. Tell me sneaky research.

He's gonna use all these uncommings average of course I will, of course I will.

But I'm just saying though, because for me, I respect your opinion. So when you make such grandiol side like claims, I tap in.

So I'm like, I asked you, I said, Mike, as a friend, I go, what are we doing here? Is this real? And you told me you stand by this. I do, I do.

I listen. I understand because you said on the phone last night it is a bold claim.

Balgate Pavlovitch is a tough mother effort right, and I'm not overlooking him, and I actually feel like I'm being a little disrespectful.

But it's not, it's not.

That is not what I'm trying to do. I spoke to Sergate today, what a.

Sweeteart and a monster inside the octagon and the ball six and one. They both have the fastest in the second fastest finished time. They're both very capable. But when I look at Tom asked me, and the way that he beats people, the movement that he has and the ability to fight everywhere, I think he can pick and choose.

He's poison and.

I honestly think he's gonna.

Job in and out and then and so you think Tom's gonna wrestle. I think, oh yeah, I think so. SERGEI was a grect woman wrestled himself with Mike. Here's Here's here's another thing.

I asked Busby. I said, Mike, have you seen something in the training room.

Because I remember before when Islama hot Shovel was coming up, we made big claims about Islam. He's gonna be the champion, He's gonna be this, But it was all the things we saw in the room that we didn't see him put into action the octagon. But then you said, there are a lot of highly respected people that you talk to in England that see him day to day that make you feel confident knowing that this dude hasn't Yeah.

Yeah, but when you look at Martin Tibura, granted, Andre Loft scale Casten, Andre's a legend, but he's passed the problems. When you look at older people that he's fought and beat, and even the Carrig's Blades one that wasn't a loss and he fell over.

Mike said, Mike. Here but Mike, they fought for thirty, yes seconds.

But he fell over hurt his own leg. That wasn't a loss, I know, Mike.

But you get Mike. You cannot just say, God, this is so bad because it's making.

The performance. I'm saying.

You don't tell would have happened.

You can't count that as a loss.

I guess what though, in all that, Sergey Padlovich actually beat Curtis Blake.

Yeah, I know, because he didn't blow his leg out.

So you think that he was gonna be curage blades if that fight went on, Well, don't throw me.

Under a bush.

No, no, I'm not trying to throw you under the bus, because I'm trying to say if you say, oh, we're tiring the blades, that weight of all time.

If he says and retires the grades, that weight of all time, that means it canna be everybody.

I think. Here's what I think.

I think.

Just listen we went guys, because.

Now you're like, now you gotta feel like I'm paying you at the court.

No, no, no, he's why I think.

Just listen.

We all know everyone says, oh makes him think about it, jelf.

Right, you unders say, if we can get it in there, we were the child running the Hall of Fame, right, we get it in there.

Of course, we're still trying to relive off glory.

We were fucking hard for this, right So when I say Trump could go down as the greatest of all time, not to you your hot.

Goals go you know what's saying, motherfucker.

Let me tell you what's crazy about that and this? I want you to pan in on me here, cameras. If Tom Asminall is the greatest heavyweight.

Champion of all time, that would also mean are even comes close.

To being the greatest of all That would also mean he's the greatest English fighter.

Of all time, and right now, stop stop. That would mean.

He's the greatest English fighter of all time, and right now, every time people ask who's the greatest English fighter of all time, it's very easy.

It's very easy. But if Tom does that, he's been the greatest. No, ye, you would not.

Guess what I created the territory.

I opened the door. I don't knock it out in the car.

I don't I don't have a country, so I wouldn't know what it feels like to be the greatest in the country, even though I do. But I don't want to be the second best fighter from Louisiana.

No, I want to be the greatest. You want to be the second best fighter in English right now that you but right now, right now, you're the greatest. Leon. Leon's not the greatest. Leon's a great fighter.

The greatest English fighter of all time is Michael Bismick. That is one percent truth. I always say that. I always say it because his impact on the sport, winning the Ultimate Fighters soon as you said, I got there, became the UFC champion. All those things make him to me the greatest Mike's martial artist in English history. But if he does all those things, that means that he would surpass you.

I'm not fine by me because it's not about me. I had my time and his whole move done, and I'm proud of my babies. I raised him right the right. Let's get down to this.

You believe this now, I know you.

I think he's No, I'm not picking a fight. You can't pick the fight. But he said, great, I think he's about this.

How about this, I'll create scenario where you're not picking, but you.

Kind of are.

Ish I'm not gonna pick the fight.

A good no, no, I'll say, Sir Thomasinna wins, I'm right and you're wrong, and the loser of this host to do a YouTube video shirtless off belly.

I'm not because I don't know who's gonna win the fight. I think it's that competitive. I just don't know how for as great as he is, all right, I don't know how. I just don't know how for as great as Tom is, and I do believe he's great. I believe that he's the next version of what heavyweight fighting looks like.

But when you got a guy that's.

Won six in a row in the first round, how do you think that he's not?

Like if you were talking, because you are, I mean, yeah, yeah, what would distracts? Did you mean?

For you?

Honestly exactly what you're talking about. Move on the outside, popp him with the jab, make the big man attack, and extend the fight. Because the last time we saw him in an extended fight, wash overary and over he beat him. So it's like, extend the fight. If you're Tom Asquinal, you gotta extend the fight. You gotta pop at him, you gotta you got you gotta kind of be the net, right, you know, like when you're outside, you're running, he's like and you're like yeah, like kind of like get this ship off of me. That's what Tom has to be. Yeah, yeah, that's your boy, you cruz.

I don't know how you guys never fall.

But like bro popping boo boom, move, make him chase, you frustrate him.

And then when he when you.

Frustrated him, hit him with a shot or you hit your shot, get out of range.

Because we know he has power to the fight.

And on the flip side, for Sergey Paplovich, if that's the cage, cut him off.

Yeah, that's one of the biggest that one of.

The biggest mistakes that these kids make when a guy's moving, Like when I'm moving, right, if I'm the kid that's moving, if I'm Tom and you're trying to cut me, they follows and then they make a circle over and over and over.

So if your Pavlovich is this, he's big. Right.

If I'm Charles, I go here.

I cut him off. I go here, I cut him off.

And every time I cut him off, I take a step forward. Look, I'm just kind of getting closer. This is when I'm closer, yes, but mirroring me, and then I'm closer every that's what Sergi has to do. Get closer and and then whoever wins, honestly is the heavyweight champion.

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Come on, if you tell me that John Jones and steep A. Milchies are still going to fight for the heavyweight championship, but both are going to probably retire after this, then we're looking at the undisputed heavyweight champion because at some point they will have to crown that guy and elevate that guy because you can't have that person defitting the interim championship.

No, no, no, for sure, but hold on, maybe reduce because think about it, Young Jones is gonna be out for.

A year and Steve Bay's waiting on.

That's a year from now. These guys are gonna want to be actave.

They're gonna want to fight.

That's just my gin.

Jump wins just for the sake, But that's a year from now. That's a year from now. Jun doesn't fight well every six months, it's lucky if they're so well eighteen months. So these guys are gonna win the interim championship and then ship on the best years of that career.

That's from eighteen months. This is the unit. This is the heavyweight champ.

This, this fight determines the heavyweight champion of the world.

Because so do you think whoever wins this will defend the interim title whilst not fight Lingers.

That's definitely what they're doing because I think you have to save Mios versus Jones, which I don't think even needs to be a title fight.

It's such a great fight, you can you know, it doesn't really.

Need a belt, but I think these guys will have to fight. It's crazy because I was doing a show something with Child to Day and show goes this is an interim title, but it's not for the number one contender, because if everything we know is true, Steve Bay still is the number one contender. So it's like it's a fight for a belt that they will defend, but only defend as the lineal heavyweight chain, as the universal heavyweight chance undisputed heavyweight champion.

War what do you think of all these people?

And by the way, I think it's ridiculous saying that Jones should have been stripped.

So here's my thought.

It's a year from now, right, if this is it your last fight, there has to be some sort of decision, because think about this. If it's a year from when he got injured and he fought in March, that'll be eighteen months outside of the octagon.

Yeah, it'll be eighteen months outside of the ocagon.

So there is a case, there is a case where you can strip him, But to not strip him and save the fight with melch is okay too.

Flip side Devil's Avocado grants of all time heavyweight comes up, heavyweight champ people when they get injured, they're given that kind of leeway that they bring him intern titles. That's kind of what we're designed for. So if you can do that with other people for one.

Of a better expression, lesser champions.

And I don't mean that in any kind of disrespectful way, but this is John Jones. If you can do it for other people, then why can't you do that to Jones.

No, but you can do it for Jones. You can do it for Jones. That's why there's no right or wrong in this situation. If you take the belt from him, nobody will beat an I lid because if you bring him back, then you put him in steep A for whatever championship they want to call it, It's gonna be okay because the fight really does sell itself if that's one of those ones where you don't really need a belt. But in terms of keeping the division going forward, Pavlovich will fight as often as Pavlovitch gets an opportunity to fight, so will Tom aspinof he's not injured. Those guys will want to fight again before Steve A. Jones fight, which is again it's so weird to me because you're gonna have two actual heavyweight champions. Because if Jones and steep A are only fighting each other, they're only fighting each other. Every other heavyweight should not have to just kind of sit around and twiddle their thumbs because they.

Don't know what they're fighting for.

Because you got great guys in the division that want to fight for the belt.

Cyril Gon won again. Uh that het Jones don't No, he hasn't.

Yeah, he taught, he fought again. So it's like this dude's like, hey, I want to start working my way back. Because while I did lose to Francis and I did lose to Jones, I have not lost to Tom aspinall.

I have not lost to uh Sergey Pavlovitch. I haven't lost to these dudes. So I still want my opportunity.

So why should the division stay for And guess what when that time comes, the UFC WO have to go. Maybe we do make these dudes fight, because again Jones ain't back till next year, probably in the summer.

Neilchi should be almost forty two years old at the time.

It's crazy, man, Like the division right now is fun, but we need I'm telling you right now, we all have to grasp the idea that on Saturday Night, the heavyweight champion will be crowned. I know, I believe.

And this is not a competition, and we're not talking about your Day or Steve pay or Jones. Let's just take them out of the conversation by now because the power of them. I think Johns and Steepend they're really at the tail end of their careers.

Maybe they have one fight.

Maybe they have. They both said that they have. They both said they're pretty much done.

I think whoever wins this well, First of all, I think Tom and Serge are the two front runners. I think it will be another rivalry much like maybe not as hated as you and John Jones, but in terms of skill for skill, how good they are.

It won't be as personal.

But I think it will be them too, because they're I think leaps and bounds above the rest of the vision.

You don't think that uh uh, Curtis Blade for Gone is not right there? But the takedown defense of the problem, right, the takedown.

Defense of the problem.

Sorry, Cyril, I totally forgot about.

Take down defense is a bit of a problem about to take down defensive bit of a problem.

It is an issue because those.

Guys will try to exploit that.

Why don't you get Cyril outs away?

Hey, bro, I've tried, I asked him.

But the guy, I mean, he's a former interim champ, he's one of the best in the world.

He's proven to be able to come with everybody by disrespect.

No, I think those guys, I think those guys are good, but then you start getting into the you know, Jayilton and Jilton is gonna just sit and wait like Jyolton, Like you know what I'm saying, Like these guys are all so good. It's like we have two guys and if, like you said, Steve, it will be at forty two.

John will be about thirty six.

And thirty six is not old in fighting, but when you live the life that Jones has lived, it's a little bit older.

Right. If those guys both the saying that they're about done, then I.

Think you have to move on with these young, active, fucking tremendous fighters. I mean, Giolton is amazing, Gone is as good, obviously has a glaring hole.

Pavlovich is amazing. Aspinall is amazing, and.

All those that that quad, those that four can make for some real interesting fights.

Let's rap it up.

She caught me.

Let's not to give me abuse. She caught me last night to wash I can't believe to see if I'm happy.

I'm telling you right now to your face, Thomas. And I'm a fan of Sergey.

I like tom Man Tom Hos.

You know he's gonna breeze through this.

But if you say, after you caught me last night, I start, you know, you don't go out there like that.

Though you don't like, that's the thing, because for me it's like learn behavior from the people that my peers.

I know what your behaviors are.

For you to go that I talk the situation.

You know what.

Maybe, but I do think he's gonna stick your move.

You're gonna flow like a butterfly, stinking like DC that we're out.

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