Dan discusses the importance of independent election audits with his guest, Jon Caldera. They dive into the issue of the Secretary of State's office auditing itself, which has raised concerns about the accuracy and honesty of elections. Jon shares his insights on how outside audits can boost public trust in the electoral process. They also touch on the recent case of Tina Peters, a Colorado election official, and the potential implications of her situation. The conversation explores the need for transparency and accountability in elections.