The possibility of our government snooping on us using malicious malware, and allegedly behind high profile arrests and assassinations, are some of the most explosive revelations of our times brought to us in the Pegasus investigations. Government spyware technology, however, has been a commonplace feature in theatres of warlike Kashmir and the Northeast. National security expert Bibhu Prasad Routray and Manipur based investigative journalist, Paojel Chaoba talk to us about old school snooping and modern-day surveillance.