Today, Nathan Stuck sits down with Brandy Hall, Founder and CEO of Shades of Green Permaculture, an Atlanta-based company transforming landscapes—and lives—through regenerative design and ecological stewardship. With nearly two decades of experience, Brandy has built a values-driven company that not only restores land but also fosters meaningful jobs and long-term impact in her community.

In this conversation, Nathan and Brandy dig into her journey from solo entrepreneur to visionary leader of a thriving team, how she learned to build systems that support sustainability, and what it truly takes to grow a mission-aligned business in a profit-first world. Brandy shares vulnerable insights about the highs and lows of entrepreneurship, the realities of running a values-led company, and why she believes in progress over perfection.

Whether you’re a purpose-driven entrepreneur, business leader, or simply someone curious about how business can be a force for good, you’ll walk away inspired and energized.

 

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
Visit https://shadesofgreenpermaculture.com/
Follow Shades of Green Permaculture on social media at:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/shades-of-green-permaculture/ 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shades_of_green_permaculture/
Sign up for the Shades of Green bi-weekly newsletter at https://shadesofgreenpermaculture.com/newsletter-sign-up

Today, Nathan Stuck sits down with Brandy Hall, Founder and CEO of Shades of Green Permaculture, an Atlanta-based company transforming landscapes&mdash;and lives&mdash;through regenerative design and ecological stewardship. With nearly two decades of experience, Brandy has built a values-driven company that not only restores land but also fosters meaningful jobs and long-term impact in her community.
In this conversation, Nathan and Brandy dig into her journey from solo entrepreneur to visionary leader of a thriving team, how she learned to build systems that support sustainability, and what it truly takes to grow a mission-aligned business in a profit-first world. Brandy shares vulnerable insights about the highs and lows of entrepreneurship, the realities of running a values-led company, and why she believes in progress over perfection.
Whether you&rsquo;re a purpose-driven entrepreneur, business leader, or simply someone curious about how business can be a force for good, you&rsquo;ll walk away inspired and energized.
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RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit https://shadesofgreenpermaculture.com/</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Shades of Green Permaculture on social media at:</li>
<ul>
<li aria-level="2">LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/shades-of-green-permaculture/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/shades-of-green-permaculture/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="2">Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/shades_of_green_permaculture/">https://www.instagram.com/shades_of_green_permaculture/</a></li>
</ul>
<li>Sign up for the Shades of Green bi-weekly newsletter at <a href="https://shadesofgreenpermaculture.com/newsletter-sign-up">https://shadesofgreenpermaculture.com/newsletter-sign-up</a></li>
</ul>

Join our host Nathan Stuck, Chair of B Local Georgia, as he guides us in these short and impactful conversations with some of the most purposeful, inspiring leaders in the Peach State. These featured guests are proving that a stakeholder-driven economic system that cares about their people, communities, customers, and the environment is not only the right way towards a sustainable future, but that it's also great for business! We're excited to have you join us as we learn together how to use our influence as a #ForceForGood.

Produced by Chat With Leaders Media. Visit https://chatwithleaders.com to learn how you can leverage strategic content and event experiences to grow your business. 

Join our host <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanastuck/">Nathan Stuck</a>, Chair of <a href="https://blocalgeorgia.com/">B Local Georgia</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanastuck/"></a>as he guides us in these short and impactful conversations with some of the most purposeful, inspiring leaders in the Peach State. These featured guests are proving that a stakeholder-driven economic system&nbsp;that cares about their people, communities, customers, and the environment is not only the right way towards a sustainable future, but that it's also great for business! We're excited to have you join us as we learn together how to use our influence as a #ForceForGood.
Produced by Chat With Leaders Media. Visit https://chatwithleaders.com to learn how you can leverage strategic content and event experiences to grow your business.&nbsp;

Making a profit and making a difference ​aren’t mutually exclusive. Hear how some of the most purpose-driven leaders in the Southeast are proving that for profit businesses can be used as a force for good while being successful financially.

B The Change Georgia with Nathan Stuck

The Steward Chair is a podcast that explores business leadership as stewardship – the responsibility of guiding organizations, people, and industries with integrity, long-term thinking, and a commitment to doing good while doing well.

Through deep, candid conversations with CEOs, Presidents and Founders that have stood the test of time, we unpack the challenges, decisions, and strategies that define values-driven leadership. This is a space for leaders who recognize that success is about more than personal achievement – it’s about leaving a lasting, positive impact on their organizations and communities.

Each episode provides real-world insights on how to navigate key business decisions while maintaining ethical integrity, long-term sustainability, and a legacy-driven mindset.

This show is produced in collaboration between Chat With Leaders Media and End of the Line Productions. 

The Steward Chair is a podcast that explores business leadership as stewardship &ndash; the responsibility of guiding organizations, people, and industries with integrity, long-term thinking, and a commitment to doing good while doing well.
Through deep, candid conversations with CEOs, Presidents and Founders that have stood the test of time, we unpack the challenges, decisions, and strategies that define values-driven leadership. This is a space for leaders who recognize that success is about more than personal achievement &ndash; it&rsquo;s&nbsp;about leaving a lasting, positive impact on their organizations and communities.
Each episode provides real-world insights on how to navigate key business decisions while maintaining ethical integrity, long-term sustainability, and a legacy-driven mindset.
This show is produced in collaboration between <a href="https://chatwithleaders.com/">Chat With Leaders Media</a> and <a href="https://www.eotlproductions.com/">End of the Line Productions</a>.&nbsp;

The Steward Chair is a podcast that explores leadership as stewardship—the responsibility of guiding organizations, people, and industries with integrity, long-term thinking, and a commitment to doing good while doing well.

The Steward Chair

In a world defined by disconnection, human connection is your most powerful asset in building companies that last. At Chat With Leaders Media, we're dedicated to helping you unlock that power by delivering actionable insights from leaders who are leveraging business as a force for good.

Through our podcasts – The Steward Chair, The People Experience Pulse, and B The Change Georgia – we cut through the noise to bring you candid, real-world strategies for building a better business. We explore what it takes to elevate people, grow your business with integrity, and build a legacy that goes beyond the bottom line.

This isn't just about inspiration; it's about giving you the tools to elevate your influence and make a tangible impact on your organization and the world.

In a world defined by disconnection, human connection is your most powerful asset in building companies that last. At Chat With Leaders Media, we're dedicated to helping you unlock that power by delivering actionable insights from leaders who are leveraging business as a force for good.
Through our podcasts &ndash; The Steward Chair, The People Experience Pulse, and B The Change Georgia &ndash; we cut through the noise to bring you candid, real-world strategies for building a better business. We explore what it takes to elevate people, grow your business with integrity, and build a legacy that goes beyond the bottom line.
This isn't just about inspiration; it's about giving you the tools to elevate your influence and make a tangible impact on your organization and the world.

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Systems, Stewardship, and Sustainable Scale with Shades of Green’s Brandy Hall

Can you scale your corporate impact without completely running yourself into the ground? In today’s episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with Elaine Dinos, Founder of Kindred Lane, to unpack how to help leaders move past the exhausting cycle of over-extension and step into a more sustainable, aligned way of leading.

 

Elaine is a newly certified B Corp founder and former partner at Korn Ferry with over a decade of experience guiding executive searches for legendary brands. After navigating her own "breakdown to breakthrough" career moment, she launched Kindred Lane to serve as a nature-backed sanctuary where leaders go to grow.

In this deeply candid conversation, Elaine breaks down the core elements of a truly regenerative corporate culture and shares how she helps leaders make business purpose human-centric. Listeners will walk away with a fresh blueprint for balancing intense growth with personal sustainability.

Upcoming Event: Kindred Lane is hosting a Regenerative Leadership Retreat in Serenbe, October 20-23! Check out their website for dates and registration details to focus on your personal and organizational impact.

 

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
Learn more about Kindred Lane at https://www.kindredlane.com 
Connect with Elaine Dinos on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elaine-dinos-4179a73/ 
Learn about B Local Georgia at https://blocalgeorgia.com/ 
Learn about Profitable Purpose Consulting at https://www.profitablepurposeconsulting.com/ 

 

CREDITS
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Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com

Can you scale your corporate impact without completely running yourself into the ground? In today&rsquo;s episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with Elaine Dinos, Founder of Kindred Lane, to unpack how to help leaders move past the exhausting cycle of over-extension and step into a more sustainable, aligned way of leading.
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Elaine is a newly certified B Corp founder and former partner at Korn Ferry with over a decade of experience guiding executive searches for legendary brands. After navigating her own "breakdown to breakthrough" career moment, she launched Kindred Lane to serve as a nature-backed sanctuary where leaders go to grow.
In this deeply candid conversation, Elaine breaks down the core elements of a truly regenerative corporate culture and shares how she helps leaders make business purpose human-centric. Listeners will walk away with a fresh blueprint for balancing intense growth with personal sustainability.
Upcoming Event: Kindred Lane is hosting a Regenerative Leadership Retreat in Serenbe, October 20-23! Check out their website for dates and registration details to focus on your personal and organizational impact.
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RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Learn more about Kindred Lane at <a href="https://www.kindredlane.com">https://www.kindredlane.com</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Connect with Elaine Dinos on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/elaine-dinos-4179a73/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/elaine-dinos-4179a73/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Learn about B Local Georgia at <a href="https://blocalgeorgia.com/">https://blocalgeorgia.com/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Learn about Profitable Purpose Consulting at <a href="https://www.profitablepurposeconsulting.com/">https://www.profitablepurposeconsulting.com/</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
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<li aria-level="1">Theme Music🎵<a href="https://pixabay.com/users/zakharvalaha-22836301/?tab=audio&amp;utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=audio&amp;utm_content=9968">ZakharValaha</a> from <a href="https://pixabay.com/?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=music&amp;utm_content=9968">Pixabay</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Produced by <a href="https://chatwithleaders.com">ChatWithLeadersMedia.com</a></li>
</ul>

Where Leaders Go to Grow: Regenerative Culture and the Wisdom of the Forest with Elaine Dinos

In this episode of The Steward Chair, host Jeff Bond sits down with Jackie Cardello, President of GRF CPAs & Advisors, to discuss how values, independence, and community impact drive sustainable success. Jackie shares how her background in English, philosophy, and psychology fuels human-centered leadership in a technical industry.

We explore GRF's courageous pivot from an "eat what you kill" compensation model to a goals-based system that rewards collective stewardship and leadership behaviors. Jackie also shares the strategic advantages of remaining fiercely independent and managing difficult partner conversations with vulnerability.

Key Takeaways
The Humanities Edge: A background in philosophy and psychology builds the empathy and communication skills required to lead people and navigate tough organizational shifts.
Incentivizing Stewardship: Swapping out individual profit models for goals-based compensation allows a firm to intentionally reward mentorship and collaboration over short-term revenue.
Independence as a Magnet: Staying independent preserves a firm's core values, allowing for client-first decision-making and an authentic culture that naturally attracts and retains top talent.

Resources Mentioned
Visit https://www.grfcpa.com/ Follow Shane on LinkedIn at 
Follow GRF CPAs & Advisors (GRF) on social media at:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grf-cpas-and-advisors
Twitter / X: https://twitter.com/grfcpas
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grfcpas/
Follow Jackie on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackie-cardello-grf/

Join the Conversation
The Steward Chair is about equipping and inspiring business leaders to build organizations that stand the test of time. If this episode resonated with you, share your biggest takeaway and tag us on LinkedIn:

Chat With Leaders Media https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/ and End of the Line Productions https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/. 

In this episode of The Steward Chair, host Jeff Bond sits down with Jackie Cardello, President of GRF CPAs &amp; Advisors, to discuss how values, independence, and community impact drive sustainable success. Jackie shares how her background in English, philosophy, and psychology fuels human-centered leadership in a technical industry.
We explore GRF's courageous pivot from an "eat what you kill" compensation model to a goals-based system that rewards collective stewardship and leadership behaviors. Jackie also shares the strategic advantages of remaining fiercely independent and managing difficult partner conversations with vulnerability.
Key Takeaways
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">The Humanities Edge: A background in philosophy and psychology builds the empathy and communication skills required to lead people and navigate tough organizational shifts.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Incentivizing Stewardship: Swapping out individual profit models for goals-based compensation allows a firm to intentionally reward mentorship and collaboration over short-term revenue.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Independence as a Magnet: Staying independent preserves a firm's core values, allowing for client-first decision-making and an authentic culture that naturally attracts and retains top talent.</li>
</ul>
Resources Mentioned
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit <a href="https://www.grfcpa.com/">https://www.grfcpa.com/</a> Follow Shane on LinkedIn at&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow GRF CPAs &amp; Advisors (GRF) on social media at:
<ul>
<li aria-level="2">LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grf-cpas-and-advisors</li>
<li aria-level="2">Twitter / X: https://twitter.com/grfcpas</li>
<li aria-level="2">Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/grfcpas/">https://www.instagram.com/grfcpas/</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Jackie on LinkedIn at: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackie-cardello-grf/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackie-cardello-grf/</a></li>
</ul>
Join the Conversation The Steward Chair is about equipping and inspiring business leaders to build organizations that stand the test of time. If this episode resonated with you, share your biggest takeaway and tag us on LinkedIn:
Chat With Leaders Media <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/</a> and End of the Line Productions <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/</a>.&nbsp;

Jackie Cardello

In this episode of The Steward Chair, Kevin Clegg, CEO of Clegg Auto, shares his journey of transitioning his family's auto shops into the first employee ownership trust holding company in the U.S., exploring how the care factor drives meaningful, long-term success.

We discuss transitioning an exit strategy into a daily operating model, guiding employees to own their own lives before owning a company, and replacing traditional management with a 200% accountability culture, providing actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.

Key Takeaways
Transitioning to an Employee Ownership Trust (EOT) protects an organization’s mission in perpetuity, ensuring the business remains evergreen and cannot be sold again. 
True company ownership requires employees to first own their lives and careers by identifying what they care about most and aligning their vocational track with those values. 
Traditional management can be replaced by a 200% accountability model where team members are 100% committed to their roles and 100% committed to keeping their peers accountable through peer coaching.

Resources Mentioned
Visit Clegg Auto at https://cleggauto.com/ 
Follow Kevin on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-clegg-59655a/ 

Join the Conversation
The Steward Chair is about equipping and inspiring business leaders to build organizations that stand the test of time. If this episode resonated with you, share your biggest takeaway and tag us on LinkedIn:

Chat With Leaders Media https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/ and End of the Line Productions https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/. 

Elevate your podcast, company meeting, or industry event strategies to better engage stakeholders and drive meaningful growth! Visit ChatWithLeaders.com to learn more about how we can help.

In this episode of The Steward Chair, Kevin Clegg, CEO of Clegg Auto, shares his journey of transitioning his family's auto shops into the first employee ownership trust holding company in the U.S., exploring how the care factor drives meaningful, long-term success.
We discuss transitioning an exit strategy into a daily operating model, guiding employees to own their own lives before owning a company, and replacing traditional management with a 200% accountability culture, providing actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.
Key Takeaways
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Transitioning to an Employee Ownership Trust (EOT) protects an organization&rsquo;s mission in perpetuity, ensuring the business remains evergreen and cannot be sold again.&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">True company ownership requires employees to first own their lives and careers by identifying what they care about most and aligning their vocational track with those values.&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Traditional management can be replaced by a 200% accountability model where team members are 100% committed to their roles and 100% committed to keeping their peers accountable through peer coaching.</li>
</ul>
Resources Mentioned
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit Clegg Auto at <a href="https://cleggauto.com/">https://cleggauto.com/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Kevin on LinkedIn at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-clegg-59655a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-clegg-59655a/</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
Join the Conversation The Steward Chair is about equipping and inspiring business leaders to build organizations that stand the test of time. If this episode resonated with you, share your biggest takeaway and tag us on LinkedIn:
Chat With Leaders Media <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/</a> and End of the Line Productions <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/</a>.&nbsp;
Elevate your podcast, company meeting, or industry event strategies to better engage stakeholders and drive meaningful growth! Visit <a href="https://chatwithleaders.com">ChatWithLeaders.com</a> to learn more about how we can help.

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