A man walked into the Corn Exchange Bank at Elkton, South Dakota, on the afternoon of August 25, 1938, and announced, quote, “This is a holdup.” Bennie and Stella Dickson were Depression-era bank robbers and outlaws who successfully stole what authorities then estimated to be more than $50,000 over an eight-month period. They were tagged by the FBI as Public Enemies No. 1 and 2., and J. Edgar Hoover, who led the bureau at that time, compared them to other notorious criminals of the era including John Dillinger, Bonnie and Clyde, “Babyface” Nelson, and “Pretty Boy” Floyd. That's quite a cast of crooks. But were they?
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A man walked into the Corn Exchange Bank at Elkton, South Dakota on the afternoon of August twenty fifth, nineteen thirty eight, and announced, quote, this is a hold up. Benny and Stella Dixon were Depression era bank robbers and outlaws who successfully stole what authorities then estimated to be more than fifty thousand dollars over an eight month period between August nineteen thirty eight and April nineteen thirty nine. They were tagged by the FBI as Public Enemies number one and number two, and j. Edgar Hoover, who led the bureau at that time, compared them to other notorious criminals of the era, including John Dillinger, Bonnie and Clyde, Babyface Nelson, and Pretty Boy Floyd. That's quite a cast of crooks. Welcome to Criminalia. I'm a rich Marky.
And I'm Holly Frye. When Benny and Stella Dixon robbed their first bank in Elkton, South Dakota, they were well, they were very polite about it. After being told by the bank cashier that the lock to the vault was a delayed timelock and would not open for thirty five minutes. They didn't give up. They simply waited. Benny preyed on any customers with deposits who entered the bank, as, after all, this was a hold up in progress. But there was a twist. He'd have a cashier look up the customer's bank balance, and if he figured that the person could afford the financial loss, he took their cash, but if their balance was low, he'd just let them be.
During the wait for the vault lock, some customers inside the bank noticed a second person holding what appeared to be a small machine gun, standing guard outside the bank door. When said party entered, the bank reported the Elkton record afterward quote It was then that those who got a good view became certain that this assistant was a girl of rather young years and of slight build.
When the vault lock finally opened, and that must have felt like a very long thirty five minutes, Benny gathered all the cash in the vault and he and Stella left town with two one hundred seventy four dollars and it was all done without a shot fired. They drove a carefully planned kind of meandering route on backcountry roads to keep a low profile as they headed to Benny's family's farm just over the state boundary near Tyler, Minnesota. There his mother, Alma, had grown up, and it's also there where he hid the money. Stella corroborated this in her later confession, stating quote, we did not stop on route. When we got to the farm. We parked the car near the barn. He said he was going to hide the money.
Several days later, the couple left the farm for Topeka, Kansas, where they stayed with family. The pair laid low. Benny taught Stella how to shoot, and he planning to return to a legitimate livelihood, was preparing to enroll in college. But only a few weeks after the robbery, the money was already running low, so Benny started planning the next bank robbery. Stella later recalled in her confession quote, two days before we robbed the bank at Brooking, South Dakota, we slept in the buick in the barn at the farm in Tyler, Minnesota, because we had run out of money and did not have funds with which to pay rent.
That's so much money. If they're just hanging out on a farm, what are they doing?
I know, right, I'm like, exactly did he just bury it around the grounds. I'm not sure, but I did remember that later in the script she had like a wedding band with seven diamonds in it, So that might explain a few things.
Maybe maybe They took off next for South Dakota, and on October thirty first, nineteen thirty eight, about two months after their first bank robbery, Benny and Stella hit up the Northwest Security National Bank in Brooking, South Dakota. That was just a few miles northwest of their first hit, the corn Exchange Bank. The two story bank building anchored the southwest corner of the intersection of forth Street and Maine, which was the town's busiest shopping area. The building had large granite pillars framing its entrance and it took up half a block. It was considered one of the most imposing structures in Brookings. Inside the bank also had a delayed timelock on its vault, and again the outlaws waited patiently. This lock, though, took quite a long time, reportedly somewhere from an hour and a half to two and a half hours for the vault to open. Apparently in no hurry, they politely told bank officials to quote do business as usual. In the end, they made off with a whole lot more from this vault than the first bank. Their takeaway from Brookings was seventeen thousand, five hundred and ninety two dollars and ninety nine cents in cash. They also walked away with stocks valued at the time to be worth more than sixteen thousand dollars. The press dubbed them the Timelock Bandits.
Authorities never recovered the money from either bank. But let's talk banks and g men for a minute. Because the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation ensured the Corn Exchange Bank, the hold up was a violation of the National Bank Robbery Act, and that came under Federal Bureau of Investigation jurisdiction. In fact, both of the duo's bank robberies came under the purview of the FBI, led by J. Edgar Hoover. In nineteen thirty four, it become a federal crime to rob any national bank or state member bank of the Federal Reserve System. The law quickly expanded to include everything from bank burglary and larceny to other similar crimes, and jurisdiction was delegated to the FBI. The Bureau had sole jurisdiction among federal law enforcement agencies to investigate bank robberies, so this was the FBI and j. Edgar Hoover's manhunt.
The Brookings Register reported two people had robbed the Northwest Security National Bank in Brookings. From descriptions given by bank employees and customers, we have an idea of what Benny and Stella looked like as bank robbers. Rather than say Benny's mugshot. Benny was quote a pasty faced man about thirty years old, and Stella quote a young, attractive, blonde. Benny on the day of the Brookings robbery wore glasses, a gray herringbone suit, a brown hat, and a gold signet ring on the little finger of his left hand. Stella wore a salmon colored coat over a green dress, and one eyewitness remembered she was quote pretty and neatly dressed. The brook Register also reported that based on those descriptions of the robbers, it was possible they were the same duo who had robbed the Corn Exchange Bank at Elkton, and the FBI agreed.
After the second robbery, authorities had pretty good physical descriptions of the robbers, good enough to start making and distributing press releases and wanted posters, but they had no idea who the bandits were. It would be a few weeks later when someone allegedly it was a health resort employee, came forward to identify the pair as Benny and Stella Dixon.
The Brookings Record published quite a bit on the bank robbery and the bank robbers, and on December first, nineteen thirty eight, reported quote described as desperate criminals by federal officials. Both Dixon and his wife are known to be extremely dangerous, and the public is warned that they would just as soon shoot to kill whoever gets in their way.
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Welcome back to Criminalia. Benny had been a boy scout, Stella had been a straight A student, and then they met.
Benny Dixon was born in Topeka, Kansas, in probably nineteen thirteen, but give or take a year or two on that one. He was the son of a high school chemistry teacher. His family was well respected in the community. At age ten, Bennie and his older brother Spencer, both received commendations from the mayor for their heroism after rescuing a woman from drowning in one of Topeka's Central Park ponds. Benny was a boy scout for eight years. However, at some point changed in his life and he began to commit minor crimes. He once spoke of falling in with a bad crowd as a youth. He served time in the Kansas State Reformatory for car theft. Seven years later, in nineteen thirty one, he was incarcerated for five and a half years at the Missouri State Penitentiary for a botched bank robbery he was involved in with a few other guys. Upon his release, he returned to Topeka, where he moved back in with his family. There, he began to turn things around a bit. He began to study law, and he won distinction as an amateur featherweight boxer.
Stella May Irvin was also from Topeka, Kansas. Born on August twenty fifth, nineteen twenty two, she grew up in an abusive home, and after her parents split when she was a toddler, she lived with her mother and her younger brother, Junior she was an a student. She was also often said to be quite attractive, generally described as a stereotypical teenager and often moody. It's also said that she was desperate for attention as well as a way out of the boredom of her Kansas life. In June of nineteen thirty seven, all Most fifteen year old Stella met twenty four year old Benny at a roller skating rink in Topeka, and, in an age gap scenario that's rather unsettling, there was an immediate attraction. He introduced himself to her as Johnny D. O'Malley, an insurance salesman from Chicago and known to be quite charismatic. He quickly won Stella's affection. He then told her his real name, and they began seeing each other. They secretly planned to marry when she turned sixteen.
It wasn't long after that first meeting, though, that Benny unexpectedly left town to avoid jail time after an assault charge. Their relationship got put on hold. Months later, Stella received a letter from him asking her to join him in California and assuring her that despite his absence, he still very much wanted to marry her. He paid for her trip, and she went it was a done deal. She traveled by train to him, and a police judge in Pipestone, Minnesota married the couple on August third, nineteen thirty eight, while they were vacationing at nearby Lake Benton with the Dixon family.
It was on Stella's sixteenth birthday when the newlyweds kicked off their partners in crime career. That was the day they robbed the corn Exchange bank at Elkton, South Dakota. It was a crime they successfully repeated at a Brookings, South Dakota bank just two months later on Halloween, and these back to back robberies brought them fame in the newspapers, but it also brought them to the attention of federal authorities.
In the months following the bank robberies, federal agents pursued the Dixons through several Midwestern states, during which time the pair added to their crime roster first car theft. Stealing new getaway cars put them in violation of the National Motor Vehicle Theft Act, which was a relatively new law that made interstate transportation of stolen cars a federal crime. They were now also wanted for kidnapping, and the two crimes went together. Benny and Stella were bank robbers, not kidnappers, but when the pair needed a vehicle, they took one, and sometimes people were inside that hijacked car. The crime duo, though, turned their victims loose as soon as it was convenient. According to their FBI poster, they were specifically wanted for quote, the kidnapping of Henry Metti and Claude Minis, and for transporting them across state lines from Michigan to Indiana that November.
By this time, the FBI had issued nearly one thousand press releases nationwide about the duo, hoping for information about their whereabouts. Another of their FBI issued wanted posters, dated November of nineteen thirty eight, seeks quote information related to the husband and wife team of bank robbers Benny and Stella Dixon on charges of kidnapping, bank robbery, and motor vehicle theft. The poster featured a mug shot of Benny, whose real name was Benjamin James Dixon, and two candid photos of a Stelle Stella Dixon. It listed their respective aliases and their physical descriptions.
The pair were tracked down to a cabin motel called Ace Cabin Camp in Topeka, Kansas, on November twenty fourth, nineteen thirty eight, that was Thanksgiving Day. As eight federal agents tried to apprehend them, Benny drove away amid a hail of gunfire. It was reported by the Topeka Daily Capital that officers fired forty eight gunshots at his thirty seven Pontiac. Benny did not fire back. He did, though, suffer a minor scalp wound. In the meantime, Stella escaped on foot. Benny abandoned his now bullet riddled car in North Topeka, and, needing a new car, hijacked a couple at gunpoint and took theirs. He drove to South Clinton, Iowa, where he stole another car, before returning to Topeka to meet up with Stella at a previously planned renezvous point the next day.
Together, they drove toward Michigan, and authorities made several attempts to capture them along the way. This is the place in their story where Benny nicknamed his young wife sure Shot. When Stella shot out the tires on a pursuing patrol car, not to injure anyone, but to hinder their chase. The couple remained at large for the next several months, popping up only when they stole cars again. They eluded police by sticking to country back roads. A Kansas City Journal news article quoted FBI special agent Gerald Norris, in charge of the case, describing Stella as quote just as tough a customer as Benny was, while the Kansas City Star reported, quote Estelle Dixon is wanted just as badly as her husband was.
On April sixth, nineteen thirty nine, Benny entered the Yankees to Hamburger Shop in Saint Louis alone to meet a person later described in newspaper articles as a quote woman in brown. This woman in brown was the sister of one of his former cellmates, and today historians believe she was a paid informant who set up this meeting, this meeting where Benny was shot, though she's identified in FBI files as Naomi. The bureau later denied that any paid informant had been present that day. We'll talk more about what else they denied in just a moment. As Benny left the cafe at about seven pm, four FBI agents were waiting outside, yelling for him to put his hands up. According to the FBI's story of events, Benny emerged from the building immediately crouched and reached for his guns, which prompted agents on the scene to fire in self defense. They shot him twice on the sidewalk, and these were fatal wounds.
Newspapers reported that Benny failed to follow the hands up command from the agents and instead had tried to reach for a gun. There's controversy to that narrative, though Matthew Cecil, historian, professor, and author, has questioned that assertion for decades. In a nineteen ninety nine edition of South Dakota History, the quarterly publication of the South Dakota State Historical Society, he contends that eyewitness testimony suggests something different than the FBI's explanation. A waitress named Gloria Cambraun witnessed the shooting that day and repeatedly stated that Benny fled on foot, heading north and that he was trying to open a door leading to a nearby apartment when he was shot once in the shoulder and once in the side. She did not agree that he was crouched or that he was reaching for a weapon.
Interestingly, though an internal FBI memo corroborated Gloria's version of the story. But then this gets messy. In a personal and confidential letter to FBI Director j Edgar Hoover, Gerald Norris, you'll recall he was the special agent in charge of this case, recounted the events. He wrote that one agent shot Benny Dixon quote twice in the body, one bullet entering his shoulder and going down through his body toward the front, and the other going from one side of his body to the other. Norris described the second bullet struck under the right arm. According to that letter, no other agents fired their weapons. In a separate letter pena Hoover by Norris, he stated, quote all of this information was furnished to the Bureau before it was given out to any other sources.
We'll talk about what that last quote means to the case, but first we're going to take a break for a word from our sponsors. And when we return from Bullets to confessions two more from j Edgar Hoover, we'll cover it all through Stella's sentencing.
Welcome back to Criminalia. Historian Matthew Cecil wasn't so sure that the FBI's public narrative was correct, and researched and wrote extensively about it. Let's talk about what he found and what he believed really happened.
Historian and author Matthew Cecil wrote extensively about the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover. In regard to the Dixons, he argued against the FBI's story of what happened to Benny that day, contending that if the bureau's public claim that Benny was directly in front of the agent's is correct, it's unlikely a bullet could have entered his shoulder from the back and moved with that trajectory they described toward the front, mainly because well physics. Cecil also stated that if Benny was actually reaching for his gun, it would have been difficult for a bullet to enter his body under the right arm, because the arm would have been down at his side. However, if he had been attempting to open an apartment door to the north of the Hamburger shop, as Gloria Cambron's eyewitness account described, his body would have been turned in such a way that the fired bullets could have struck with the trajectories described by the FBI.
Meanwhile, Gloria had publicly told her version of the story several times and was scheduled to testify under oath at the coroner's inquest. However, FBI Assistant Director Edward Tatum penned a letter to Norris quote that this woman should be brought into the office and given a good scare, and that she should be told that she has been quoted in the newspapers as telling some stories that were not true, and that if we are going to have to prosecute her for perjury or something, we will do so. In the end, we don't know if Gloria was intimidated from making her statement, but we do know that she did not testify. Officials at the inquest absolved the FBI of any blame in the Dixon shooting.
And basically that meant the FBI could tell any version of the event that they pleased, and the FBI's public relations department went to work. They immediately released a lot of pro FBI propaganda, including a series of radio scripts, case memoranda, and commercially distributed books, telling the bureaus version of the Benny Dixon shootout story that agents fired on him because he was reaching for a weapon. Not because he was fleeing. So what about Gloria the eyewitness? What about that woman in Brown? The Bureau got their guy. But the more historian Cecil investigated their reports, the clearer it became that they whipped up a false narrative about the fatal shots in a time when the FBI was looking for feel good public relations story, and they left out a bunch of critical facts in doing so.
Let's return to the scene of the shooting. So during this frenzy, Stella waited in the car parked about half a mile away and had been there since her husband went into the Hamburger shop. She later stated, quote, I couldn't see the Hamburger stand very well because of the cars parked in front of it. I heard several shots fired across the street. I already had the motor running, and I swung the car around to get on Johnny's side of the street and open the car door. As I turned, Johnny was lying on the sidewalk. Johnny, to clear up confusion, was Stella's nickname for Benny. Remember it was the name he used when he first introduced himself to her at the rink.
Stella drove off and abandoned the car in a nearby parking garage. Wanting to get home to her mother, she hired a driver instead of hijacking a car, But newspapers and the FBI had splashed her photo all over the place, and that driver recognized her and he informed authorities. He drove her to her mother's head, but instead of meeting the welcoming arms of her mother, she was met by FBI agents. She later stated to one of those agents, quote, I knew the minute he stopped he was going to get a federal man to arrest me. I didn't care. I just sat in the car. I knew if I got out and tried to get to Topeka by myself, I wouldn't get there alive. And I wanted to see my mother.
Just two days after her husband was killed, Stella was taken into custody by federal agents. She had seventy dollars in her pocket and she was wearing three rings, among them her wedding ring set with seven diamonds. She also carried a key to a New Orleans apartment and a poem her late husband had written for her, which read, quote, in the eyes of men, I am not just, but in your eyes, Oh life, I see justification. You have taught me that my path is right if I am true to you.
According to the Sioux Falls Daily Argus Leader, she initially denied that she played any role in the bank robberies or in the kidnappings of which the couple was accused. Less than one week after her capture, officials ordered her extradited to South Dakota to face the charges of bank robbery for the two banks that she and Benny had robbed. Her imminent arrival in Sioux Falls caused a frenzy in the media, and newspaper stories announced that she would arrive by train. Large crowds gathered at the Milwaukee Railroad depot downtown to await a glimpse of her.
Because of all this attention, state officials instead transported her to the newly constructed City Jail in Mitchell, seventy miles to the west of Sioux Falls and far enough away to avoid any incident or riot. As she arrived, The Sioux Falls Daily Argus Leader described Dixon's arrival there on April fifteenth with an account of her appearance, reporting quote dressed in a blue checkered sport coat. The print dress. Wearing a wide brimmed black hat, she walked down the courthouse corridors with long strides. The Brookings Register reported quote FBI agents dressed a Stelle in the clothes found in an abandoned Dixon automobile in order to help witnesses identify her. On April twentieth, Brookings Bank employees Dorothy Coffey and John Torsi arrived in Mitchell and positively identified Stella as the woman they had seen in connection with the robberies.
Stella's initial sixteen page confession was made alone and without either legal or parental guidance. And remember she was just a teenager, and that confession stated that she had willingly participated in the crimes. But that confession changed after a discussion with her attorney and her mother. A second confession was issued, a version that was close to the first. There were actually only a few factual changes, but it did not read the same way. Here's what we mean. The revision carried a tone befitting a coverture defense. So let's talk quickly about what that is. Under the principle of coverture, a woman or child could avoid prosecution if they had been following the direction of an authority figure such as a husband or a father, in committing a.
Crime, Unlike in her initial confession claiming she had been a willing participant, in her second statement, Stella stated, quote, Johnny planned each of these bank robberies, and I was with him during each robbery only because he told me to go with him. I did not plan to go into either of those banks, but did go into each of them because Johnny stayed in each bank so long, I got worried about him and went into the banks to look for him. She also stated that Benny quote frequently got mad at me and said if I left him, he would kill me, and said he would kill anybody who helped me leave him. That latter part raised some eyebrows, as though he was a criminal, there was no record of his ever having threatened to kill anyone. It was unexpected, even to the FBI. In an FBI news release attributed to j Edgar Hoover, the bureau expressed skepticism over the revised confession, calling it a quote scheme devised by Dixon and her attorneys to avoid punishment, and I mean, really truth be told. After reading the first confession and then the revision that second confession really doesn't sit right.
During the legal negotiations that followed, Stella, in a surprise to everyone, protested her innocence under the coverture rule. In May. Federal marshals next transported her to Sue Falls, where her attorney, Chet Morgan of Mitchell, South Dakota, discussed her case with United States Attorney George Phillip. The FBI may have painted an aura of danger around her, but local papers that were following her did not. They described her as looking quote more like a schoolgirl than a gun mall waiting the proceedings of the court on charges of bank robbery, including the taking of hostages, a possible capital offense. She is a small girl, short and not very heavy, and wore a small black hat set back on her blonde hair, which made her appear no older than the sixteen year she claims.
Under pressure from j Edgar Hoover and the Justice Department, United States District Court Judge Alfred Wyman brought the prosecution and defense together on a plea agreement. Finally, and on August twenty first, nineteen thirty one, four days before her seventeenth birthday, Stella Dixon pleaded guilty to two counts of bank robbery in Federal District Court in Deadwood, South Dakota. Judge Wyman, citing the defendant's youth and the corrupting influence of her husband, sentenced her to what was considered a pretty light sentence two concurrent ten urreed tids at the United States Women's Reformatory in Alderson, West Virginia, a sentence she began serving on August twenty seventh.
After she was paroled at age twenty six, Stella never returned to a life of crime. She settled into life as a grocery store clerk and lived in relative solitude in Raytown, Missouri, until her death at age seventy two. So were she and Benny the public enemies number one and two that Jay Edgar Hoover considered them to be wanted dead or alive. Modern dives into the case of Benny and Stella, such as Matthew Cecil's exhaustive work, suggests that these two time bank robbers, who were known to be polite and nonviolent, may actually have been kind of just small time criminals who just happened to play into both the public's fascination with these Depression era crimes, as well as the FBI's focus at the time to be positively represented and heroic in the media. Oh, Maria, are you ready to make it a double.
I most certainly am always okay.
I have such thoughts about this because I could not stop thinking the entire time about the fact that Stella was still a child during all of this.
She was fourteen when he met her.
Yes, And it's one of those things that makes my heart ache because I'm sure many of us, especially when we were teenagers, have had those times where we felt unloved and vulnerable, and it is so easy to be taken in when someone seems like they offer a way out of all of the unhappiness in your life.
And we know that she was, you know, one of those fourteen year olds who was like, my life in Kansas is so boring, I can't wait to get out of here. Yes, absolutely so.
You know whether or not she actively went along with Benny's plans and his crimes, right is like a maybe. But even if she did, this is also a teenager whose prefrontal cortex is not fully developed yet. Right, Just in case anybody listening doesn't know, that's the part of the brain that handles a lot of executive function, but among other things things like risk assessment and decision making. Yes, and here's the thing, that part of your brain doesn't even finish developing until you're mid to late twenties. So even Benny was not necessarily ready and functioning with a fully working and matured sense of reasoning consequences, et cetera. He certainly was not when he started his life of crime.
He was not fully cooked yet either. Those brains were brand new.
Brains, no ye, still percolating. So in thinking about all of this, I also started to consider the heady and intense feelings that come with meeting someone and falling in love when you're at that young age, and that feeling of just being in it together and like that you're in this world where no one else understands you. It's just you and this person against everybody else.
Oh yeah.
And so in thinking about all of that, and thinking about their decision to get married, and also to me the slightly odd detail that they went to Benny's families for all of this, Like they weren't just like tootling around solo. They had connection to family.
Right, They were always hanging out with the Dixons.
And I thought about whether or not they actually had much of a wedding ceremony, and that got me to thinking about what I wanted to do with a drink. And this drink is called Teenage Wedding Cake, and it features some of the ultra sweet flavors that someone whose palette is still youthful and undeveloped might lean toward. Don't panic, I know that's not your jam, because one I worked on ways to temper that. But this is also a choose your own adventure cocktail because there is a way to make it. I don't know if I would call it like the straightway or the regular way. But then there's a second way you can make it that involves a tiny addition of one ingredient that completely changes everything, Like literally one drop is all you need. So we're gonna make it first the basic way, and what I wanted was to make something that tasted like a fruity vanilla pound cake essentially, but with a little kick. So you're gonna start with a quarter ounce of lemon juice, a half ounce of orange liqueur. This is drinker's choice. I actually went with a mandarin orange liqueur that I have that I really like, but you could use you know, a quandtrie, a triple sc It's on you. You could even if you don't like orange, pick a different fruit. Just pick a fruity liqueur here. Then you're gonna do an ounce in a quarter of vanilla vodka. Then you will shake that together and pour it into a pre chilled coop and to that you're gonna add an ounce of cream soda and then an ounce of prosec And so you have this already. The prosecca really shears off the cloying sweetness, so you already have a drink that is it's definitely got those sweet and fruity notes of a cake, but it's not as like intensely sweet as you might anticipate based on the early ingredient. There is a second way to make this drink, and it changes it completely Because I did. I love that version of it, but I wasn't confident that Benny was fully represented. And the idea that like, you could have this fun adventure that completely ruins your life or in Benny's case, ends it. So you're gonna make it entirely as above, except before you shake your lemon juice, orange liquor, and vanilla vodka. You're gonna add one drop of the hot sauce of your choice, and that also has a wide range of possibilities. I went with one that's a Sri racha. We have one here at the house that is a ghost pepper. I'm not touching it, but I can perish. I can't handle that, biz. But this completely changes the flavor of it, because then what you get is this bubbly heat, and then there's this faint notion of like, is there fruit in here somewhere, which feels a little bit. It's more intense as a drink, which matches their relationship, but it's also more intense in terms of like the heat is catching up to you.
Right, You just rob you Bank's intensity.
Right right. So that is the teenage wedding cake there is for the mocktail version, it's very very easy. You're going to do a quarter ounce of lemon juice, a half ounce of orange syrup, an ounce in a quarter of vanilla tea, so it is going to be darker in color than the other one, and you will shake those together with ice, just as you would have your your spirits and your lemon juice. In the earlier version, you can also optionally add hot sauce here, and then you will add an ounce of cream soda and instead of prosecco, an ounce of ginger ale. I will say the thing I always say, which is that I would opt for low sugar versions there makes it a little closer to the original drink and a little less intense. So that is the Tede wedding cake, which hopefully people enjoy very heady and bubbly, and it's one of those things that will for me. Once you add a champagne or a prosecco or any sparkling, we're on a faster track to feeling a little buzzy. So I agree with that that too, was part of creating this intense, buzzy sensation of their life. If you make it, I hope you enjoy it. We have sure enjoyed sharing this story with you, and we're so glad you have been here with us. We will be right back here next week with another criminal Duo and another make it a double drink. Criminalia is a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from Shondaland Audio, Please visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.